Bryston SACD Player ??

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Re: Bryston SACD Player ??
« Reply #20 on: 2 Feb 2025, 07:24 pm »
Hey GBABY,

I truly don't appreciate being called delusional on the forum.

I was trying to gain interest in something that Bryston could easily do for consumers and sales.

Brystons Digital offerings are lacking by todays standards.

As an ex owner of a BDA-3 w/HDMI, I did encounter several issues with HDMI with at least three Blu-Ray/SACD players, having a stand alone SACD player either with an upgrade to the BCD-3 or something else, would allow a relatively lower cost of entry for consumers wanting to play music this way.

I will use my money elsewhere to have a trouble free playback experience. 

As an owner and supporter of Bryston since 2004, all I was doing was trying to gain interest from this small community of Bryston fans on IF IF they would support buying a SACD player.

GBABY, Again, please don't try to belittle my knowledge of Bryston electronics, DSD playback, etc on the public forum.  Do it in a private message.

So delusional is an insult to you.  :lol: I'm a little more pragmatic. I own a high end stand alone SACD player as well as several cheap universal Sony SACD players. I own a Bryston SP3 and well as a Bryston BDA3 so it would be stupid for Bryston to make a "high end" SACD player when DSD can be accessed for less. Toughen up and use your brains.

Mariusz Uszynski

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« Reply #21 on: 2 Feb 2025, 08:12 pm »
And here we go again...(grabbing popcorn, lol)

gbaby

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« Reply #22 on: 2 Feb 2025, 08:34 pm »
And here we go again...(grabbing popcorn, lol)

Im not even trying to be offensive, but honest.  :o :D

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« Reply #23 on: 2 Feb 2025, 10:48 pm »
Hey GBABY,

I truly don't appreciate being called delusional on the forum.

I was trying to gain interest in something that Bryston could easily do for consumers and sales.

Brystons Digital offerings are lacking by todays standards.

As an ex owner of a BDA-3 w/HDMI, I did encounter several issues with HDMI with at least three Blu-Ray/SACD players, having a stand alone SACD player either with an upgrade to the BCD-3 or something else, would allow a relatively lower cost of entry for consumers wanting to play music this way.

I will use my money elsewhere to have a trouble free playback experience. 

As an owner and supporter of Bryston since 2004, all I was doing was trying to gain interest from this small community of Bryston fans on IF IF they would support buying a SACD player.

GBABY, Again, please don't try to belittle my knowledge of Bryston electronics, DSD playback, etc on the public forum.  Do it in a private message.

I did not realize that I was being insulting so I apologize. I also apologize on behalf of common folks in the USA for the tariffs our crooked president have imposed on Canada.

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« Reply #24 on: 3 Feb 2025, 11:28 pm »
I also apologize on behalf of common folks in the USA for the tariffs our crooked president have imposed on Canada.
Thanks, so much, Gbaby.  And our country also thanks you for thinking of us.
Barry

gbaby

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« Reply #25 on: 4 Feb 2025, 12:23 am »
Thanks, so much, Gbaby.  And our country also thanks you for thinking of us.
Barry

I hate to admit it but I feel the USA is imploding right before my eyes, and I feel helpless as I know supposedly intelligent people who voted for this implosion.   :cry:

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« Reply #26 on: 4 Feb 2025, 03:31 am »
Last I checked the posting guidelines:

Politics, public policy and religion
We've tried it, it doesn't work. Please go somewhere else to talk about these topics.

I.Greyhound Fan

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« Reply #27 on: 4 Feb 2025, 03:07 pm »
Hi guys, I have technical question, regarding cd players in general.In the past all my laserdisc/dvd/blu-ray players had "RESUME PLAY" feature.If I stopped or turned player off, it would start playback, where I left off.So, how come cd players don't come with "resume play" feature?
I would like to apologize, if my question is silly, but I always loved that feature.

I had CDPs that have had both pause and stop.  They are out there.

R. Daneel

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« Reply #28 on: 4 Feb 2025, 05:55 pm »
And here we go again...(grabbing popcorn, lol)

Someone here is certainly running low on lithium, eh? ;) Bright as the night!

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« Reply #29 on: 4 Feb 2025, 06:23 pm »
Hi Mariusz! Great name BTW, Hungarian?

It isn't often that I hear someone contacting the OEM to find more about a specific part! It's great to know the inner workings of something, especially something as interesting as a CD player, isn't it?

Cheers - Antun

Hi Antun, I'm polish-canadian meaning, I was "accidentally" born in Poland, but will happily die in Canada (lol).I'm not trying to be mean to my counrty of origin, but ever since I was 10-11 year old, I was "obsessed" or fascinated by Canada.We had geography very early in elementary school and I loved reading and learning about Canada.And 20 years later, I became canadian citizen.

Anyway, I wanted to know little bit about the drive.The gentleman, who e-mailed me was very helpful.I love my Bryston gear so much, I'm thinking about buying spare cd drive and display for my BCD-3, once the warranty expires.

Hi Mariusz!

I was actually going to say either Hungarian or Polish! Great! Well, at least we have something in common! ;)

Regarding the spare drive and display, that's probably a good idea. Still, there are some things you might want to consider.

First, be sure to let Bryston know that you want to buy a spare drive. Ask them directly whether it is OK to buy it from the OEM - Stream Unlimited. The reason being, SU manufactures drives for many manufacturers. They themselves have many different models and Bryston might be using one of them. I say MIGHT because it is possible that SU made the drive a special order for Bryston. Undoubtedly, it would still be based on one of SU's 'standard' models but Bryston might have requested a modification and this would make the 'standard' drive incompatible with the BCD-3. Remember that Stream Unlimited are a specialist company and can make pretty much whatever you want, as long as you are ordering it in large enough quantity. The bottom line is this - before buying, check you are buying an actual drive that is used in the BCD-3!

Second, buy the entire drive, not just the laser pickup assembly. Also, order a spare drawer belt. By the time you need the drive, the belt in the new drive will have already deteriorated - these things tend to get deformed if installed and unused.

Third, VFDs (vaccum-flourescent displays) tend to lose brightness with time. The VFDs that Bryston is using are of very high quality and this is not a cheap part. To prolong its operational life, you can laways disable the display. This is what I do with the BDP-2. Typically, high quality VDFs last very long so the one that Bryston uses should be no different. However, if you want to buy a spare one, my concern would be the display's installation to the front panel PCB. Check with Bryston how easy or difficult it is to replace the display before buying.

You remind me of me, Mariusz! You want it all!! I try to get all the spare parts for the equipment that I own and this year I intend to contact Bryston regardings some parts as well.

Hope this is helpful to you and please, be sure to let me know what you've decided and how it goes.

Cheers!
Antun

Mariusz Uszynski

Re: Bryston SACD Player ??
« Reply #30 on: 4 Feb 2025, 09:05 pm »
Hi Mariusz!

I was actually going to say either Hungarian or Polish! Great! Well, at least we have something in common! ;)

Regarding the spare drive and display, that's probably a good idea. Still, there are some things you might want to consider.

First, be sure to let Bryston know that you want to buy a spare drive. Ask them directly whether it is OK to buy it from the OEM - Stream Unlimited. The reason being, SU manufactures drives for many manufacturers. They themselves have many different models and Bryston might be using one of them. I say MIGHT because it is possible that SU made the drive a special order for Bryston. Undoubtedly, it would still be based on one of SU's 'standard' models but Bryston might have requested a modification and this would make the 'standard' drive incompatible with the BCD-3. Remember that Stream Unlimited are a specialist company and can make pretty much whatever you want, as long as you are ordering it in large enough quantity. The bottom line is this - before buying, check you are buying an actual drive that is used in the BCD-3!

Second, buy the entire drive, not just the laser pickup assembly. Also, order a spare drawer belt. By the time you need the drive, the belt in the new drive will have already deteriorated - these things tend to get deformed if installed and unused.

Third, VFDs (vaccum-flourescent displays) tend to lose brightness with time. The VFDs that Bryston is using are of very high quality and this is not a cheap part. To prolong its operational life, you can laways disable the display. This is what I do with the BDP-2. Typically, high quality VDFs last very long so the one that Bryston uses should be no different. However, if you want to buy a spare one, my concern would be the display's installation to the front panel PCB. Check with Bryston how easy or difficult it is to replace the display before buying.

You remind me of me, Mariusz! You want it all!! I try to get all the spare parts for the equipment that I own and this year I intend to contact Bryston regardings some parts as well.

Hope this is helpful to you and please, be sure to let me know what you've decided and how it goes.

Cheers!
Antun

Hi Antun, thanks for tons of an amazing info.I always enjoy your posts in the past, especially about the Mighty Bryston.My BCD-3 warranty expires on Nov.05.2027, so I still have some time, but thanks to you, I'm more than ready now.The full name of the drive is "STREAMUNLIMITED JPL-2800 TRANSPORT".In 2022 the price of drive directly from Bryston was $600, display $100.I know, because there was another discussion about it.I'll order at least 2 drawer belts, to be honest, I forgot about that part.When my gear is turned on, during the day, but not in use, I usually press "0" on remote control, to turn the display off.I think, nowadays all the Bryston displays are white, because they last longer.I was told that, when I was ordering my gear, I wanted green display, but that feature was discontinued.I want my Bryston gear to last forever, to outlive me, (lol).I'm 60 and I'm very happy with it and when there will be time for any part replacement, my gear is going to manufacturer, I would never ever let "Mickey Mouse" touch it, lol.I have always used to look after my audio/video gear.When there was time for replacement, my old gear looked like new, no fingerprints, no scratches, just perfect condition.

Antun, thank you very much for an amazing info and for sharing your knowledge with me.

Cheers
Mariusz.

Mariusz Uszynski

Re: Bryston SACD Player ??
« Reply #31 on: 4 Feb 2025, 09:24 pm »
I had CDPs that have had both pause and stop.  They are out there.

Mr.I.Greyhound Fan, I either suck at english language, or you did not pay attention to my question?
So, I will quote myself; "IF I STOPPED OR TURNED PLAYER OFF, IT WOULD START PLAYBACK, WHERE I LEFT OFF..."See, I'm not talking about pause, I'm talking about term called "THE RESUME PLAY" or "THE LAST POSITION MEMORY".If you had a cd player with said feature, could you please, share the name of the brand, with the rest of the class???Thank you in advance.

Mariusz.

R. Daneel

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Re: Bryston SACD Player ??
« Reply #32 on: 5 Feb 2025, 06:14 pm »
Hi Mariusz!

I was actually going to say either Hungarian or Polish! Great! Well, at least we have something in common! ;)

Regarding the spare drive and display, that's probably a good idea. Still, there are some things you might want to consider.

First, be sure to let Bryston know that you want to buy a spare drive. Ask them directly whether it is OK to buy it from the OEM - Stream Unlimited. The reason being, SU manufactures drives for many manufacturers. They themselves have many different models and Bryston might be using one of them. I say MIGHT because it is possible that SU made the drive a special order for Bryston. Undoubtedly, it would still be based on one of SU's 'standard' models but Bryston might have requested a modification and this would make the 'standard' drive incompatible with the BCD-3. Remember that Stream Unlimited are a specialist company and can make pretty much whatever you want, as long as you are ordering it in large enough quantity. The bottom line is this - before buying, check you are buying an actual drive that is used in the BCD-3!

Second, buy the entire drive, not just the laser pickup assembly. Also, order a spare drawer belt. By the time you need the drive, the belt in the new drive will have already deteriorated - these things tend to get deformed if installed and unused.

Third, VFDs (vaccum-flourescent displays) tend to lose brightness with time. The VFDs that Bryston is using are of very high quality and this is not a cheap part. To prolong its operational life, you can laways disable the display. This is what I do with the BDP-2. Typically, high quality VDFs last very long so the one that Bryston uses should be no different. However, if you want to buy a spare one, my concern would be the display's installation to the front panel PCB. Check with Bryston how easy or difficult it is to replace the display before buying.

You remind me of me, Mariusz! You want it all!! I try to get all the spare parts for the equipment that I own and this year I intend to contact Bryston regardings some parts as well.

Hope this is helpful to you and please, be sure to let me know what you've decided and how it goes.

Cheers!
Antun

Hi Antun, thanks for tons of an amazing info.I always enjoy your posts in the past, especially about the Mighty Bryston.My BCD-3 warranty expires on Nov.05.2027, so I still have some time, but thanks to you, I'm more than ready now.The full name of the drive is "STREAMUNLIMITED JPL-2800 TRANSPORT".In 2022 the price of drive directly from Bryston was $600, display $100.I know, because there was another discussion about it.I'll order at least 2 drawer belts, to be honest, I forgot about that part.When my gear is turned on, during the day, but not in use, I usually press "0" on remote control, to turn the display off.I think, nowadays all the Bryston displays are white, because they last longer.I was told that, when I was ordering my gear, I wanted green display, but that feature was discontinued.I want my Bryston gear to last forever, to outlive me, (lol).I'm 60 and I'm very happy with it and when there will be time for any part replacement, my gear is going to manufacturer, I would never ever let "Mickey Mouse" touch it, lol.I have always used to look after my audio/video gear.When there was time for replacement, my old gear looked like new, no fingerprints, no scratches, just perfect condition.

Antun, thank you very much for an amazing info and for sharing your knowledge with me.

Cheers
Mariusz.

Hi Mariusz!

No thanks are necessary - It is always a pleasure to talk to and if possible, help someone, especially a first-class gentleman such as yourself.

All the best,
Antun

Mariusz Uszynski

Re: Bryston SACD Player ??
« Reply #33 on: 5 Feb 2025, 07:00 pm »
Hi Mariusz!

No thanks are necessary - It is always a pleasure to talk to and if possible, help someone, especially a first-class gentleman such as yourself.

All the best,
Antun

Thank you, my good man.Right back at ya.

Mariusz.

gbaby

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« Reply #34 on: 5 Feb 2025, 10:04 pm »
Someone here is certainly running low on lithium, eh? ;) Bright as the night!

Quit talking about yourself. Peace has been made.

Mariusz Uszynski

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« Reply #35 on: 5 Feb 2025, 10:28 pm »
Gentlemen, the hatchet has been buried.This site is our refuge from everyday problems, so let's all be friends.
Plus, I just ran out of popcorn.

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« Reply #36 on: 5 Feb 2025, 11:49 pm »
Gentlemen, the hatchet has been buried.This site is our refuge from everyday problems, so let's all be friends.
Plus, I just ran out of popcorn.

I agree. I like BeeJay. He is a genuinely good person.  8)

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« Reply #37 on: 6 Feb 2025, 03:56 am »
As a huge SACD fan here, how many people would support a new Bryston SACD player?

I certainly would. As an owner of the BDP3 + BDA3 there is no need for the BCD3 or any redbook CD player in my setup. Now that my CD collection has been ripped to the BDP, the only time I spin a silver disc is for SACD (and the occasional HDCD on my other system). I mentioned this years ago but James was not open to adding either functionality.

the same transport that is used in the BCD3 is also used in the dCS SACD player, and the same case would be used as the BCD3.

Interesting, I did not know that.

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« Reply #38 on: 6 Feb 2025, 03:58 pm »
I certainly would. As an owner of the BDP3 + BDA3 there is no need for the BCD3 or any redbook CD player in my setup. Now that my CD collection has been ripped to the BDP, the only time I spin a silver disc is for SACD (and the occasional HDCD on my other system). I mentioned this years ago but James was not open to adding either functionality.

Interesting, I did not know that.

The most likely reason James was not open to the idea is that building a Bryston SACD player would not make economic sense in that the player would only be built to access DSD 64 either stereo or multichannel in which case the sound would be changed to PCM 176.4 or 88.2. I always liked the Sony players because they use the higher PCM 176.4 sampling rate for multichannel SACD. With all my SACDs, I ripped them to DSD files an play them back through my BDP3/BDA3. So, I never use the Sony players unless I want to hear Quad or multichannel SACD.In any event, it would be a business decision to produce a Bryston SACD player and James may already know its unfeasible to do so. If one wanted a higher DSD sampling rate like 128 DSD or 256 DSD or even 512 DSD, one would have to use USB so the silver disc SACD player would not work. Anyone, correct me if this is wrong.

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« Reply #39 on: 6 Feb 2025, 04:48 pm »
the player would only be built to access DSD 64 either stereo or multichannel in which case the sound would be changed to PCM 176.4 or 88.2.

Nope.  It would be a one box CD/SACD player and the AKM 4490 DAC chips used in the BCD3 are entirely capable of running in DSD mode (no conversion to PCM needed), as they are in the BDA3. 

Now that someone has mentioned the optical pickup in the BCD3 is also SACD capable that makes the decision even more curious.  Audiophile companies like to say "the digital path is optimized for a certain task" but often it is just the path of least resistance.  It would be extra effort to implement a dual path properly, it met their design goals as a redbook player and that was it.

The decision can also be ideological.  Redbook CD requires no licensing.  Other formats require a small licensing fee to be paid to another company for every unit produced.  The counter argument is when you add more functionality you broaden the potential customer base and sell more units... hence threads like this are started.