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Title: Request for Advice on Wire to Use form Crossover to Driver
Post by: atkinsonrr on 29 Mar 2018, 08:33 pm
Another topic so thought I would start another thread.  The last post from 10 days ago reminded me I would like to get a recommendation on wire to use inside the cabinet.  My objective is a smooth, rich sound, not overly detailed and without emphasis in the upper midrange. 

The Spendor S100s are a 3-way ported design with a 0.75" soft dome tweeter crossing @ 4Khz to a 6" polypropolene mid which crosses over to a 13" doped bextrene woofer at 600Hz. The bass and mid drivers are of Spendor construction and the tweeter is a modified-by-Spendor ScanSpeak. 

The speakers are tri-wireable.  For speaker cable, I plan on bi-wiring with Duelund oiled cotton over tinned copper DCA @ 16AWG going to mid and tweeter posts and the same Duelund wire @ 12AWG going to the woofer posts.

Driven by all tubes: Mac MC275; Mac C2200 Pre-amp; Line Magnetic tube DAC.  The crossovers are as described in the last post in my previous thread. 

Thanks for any advice!  -- Rob
Title: Re: Request for Advice on Wire to Use form Crossover to Driver
Post by: borism on 29 Mar 2018, 09:55 pm
Why not use the same wire inside?
Title: Re: Request for Advice on Wire to Use form Crossover to Driver
Post by: atkinsonrr on 30 Mar 2018, 12:44 am
Hey Borism-- 

Yep, I hear ya!  My initial thought was to use the same Dueland wire I will be using for speaker cable.  I thought it just made sense.  But then I saw Jeff's recommendation to the guy who asked the same question about 10 days ago on this forum.  I believe Jeff recommended he use solid core 16GA, either Neotech or Jupiter, with a cotton dialectric.  It got me intrigued, and I value Jeff's thoughts, so I wanted to see what Jeff might recommend in my situation with my system.

--Rob
Title: Re: Request for Advice on Wire to Use form Crossover to Driver
Post by: FullRangeMan on 30 Mar 2018, 12:54 am
I got from Jeff the Neotech UPOCC Teflon awg 14 and its excelent.(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=147666)
Dont used the Jupiter though, the Jupiter was unavaliable in 14ga
but seems offer great performance in the oldfashioned cotton/silk
jacket, perfect to wiring tube amps in the old school.

Title: Re: Request for Advice on Wire to Use form Crossover to Driver
Post by: atkinsonrr on 30 Mar 2018, 03:00 am
Yeah I'm liking the sound of the cotton covered Duelund.  So am thinking that may be the direction to go in.
Title: Re: Request for Advice on Wire to Use form Crossover to Driver
Post by: FullRangeMan on 30 Mar 2018, 03:25 am
Its varnish coated?
I choose the Neo why I was afraid the Jupiter was bare copper,
so for avoid electric short and corrosion I take the Neo which is
Teflon coated, but Jeff can inform you in this.
Title: Re: Request for Advice on Wire to Use form Crossover to Driver
Post by: Rusty Jefferson on 30 Mar 2018, 05:58 pm
If you're committed to the Dueland speaker wire from amp to speaker cabinet, I would rewire with it internally also.  I use the Omega Mikro/Mapleshade speaker wire, and used it internally also on my last project speakers.
Title: Re: Request for Advice on Wire to Use form Crossover to Driver
Post by: Jeff on 5 Apr 2018, 05:40 am
The emperor has no clothes on  :lol:  I do not like the Duelund stranded Tin...  Besides being the flavor of the week, I do think it is along the lines of what you say you want.  I see no reason to not use it inside as well.  If you plan to solder it anywhere, you should take extra measures to make a good joint.  I have seen many bad joints made with this wire.
Title: Re: Request for Advice on Wire to Use form Crossover to Driver
Post by: Jeff on 5 Apr 2018, 05:47 am
Hey Borism-- 

Yep, I hear ya!  My initial thought was to use the same Dueland wire I will be using for speaker cable.  I thought it just made sense.  But then I saw Jeff's recommendation to the guy who asked the same question about 10 days ago on this forum.  I believe Jeff recommended he use solid core 16GA, either Neotech or Jupiter, with a cotton dialectric.  It got me intrigued, and I value Jeff's thoughts, so I wanted to see what Jeff might recommend in my situation with my system.

--Rob

Speaker cable to the cabinet is typically full power, and full band width, and longer in length.  Post-xo, is limited in power, bandwidth, and length.  Better application specific choices are possible.