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Bryston International Reviews
« on: 20 Apr 2009, 09:31 pm »
Hi All,

Some International Bryston Reviews added to the website.

http://www.bryston.com/revinter.html

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Re: Bryston International Reviews
« Reply #1 on: 23 Apr 2009, 02:40 am »
Hi James.
Recently, I read the Hi Fi News review (BCD-1)  And for my surprise...the reviewer grant only 53% in "Sound issue" in his Veredict. Can it be???
Any comments will be appreciated. 

     

Hi All,

Some International Bryston Reviews added to the website.

http://www.bryston.com/revinter.html

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« Reply #2 on: 23 Apr 2009, 10:16 am »
Hi James.
Recently, I read the Hi Fi News review (BCD-1)  And for my surprise...the reviewer grant only 53% in "Sound issue" in his Veredict. Can it be???
Any comments will be appreciated. 

     

Hi All,

Some International Bryston Reviews added to the website.

http://www.bryston.com/revinter.html

james


Hi Tosko,

I guess my only comment is we are all entitled to our own opinions.
I think when you look at the superb measurements that accompany this specific review though there is a serious question as to whether this particular opinion is a valid one?

james
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Re: Bryston International Reviews
« Reply #3 on: 23 Apr 2009, 01:57 pm »
Compare the Bryston to the  Arcam and Meridian players he cites as better. And see what you think. I did. 8)

werd

Re: Bryston International Reviews
« Reply #4 on: 24 Apr 2009, 12:04 am »
Hi James.
Recently, I read the Hi Fi News review (BCD-1)  And for my surprise...the reviewer grant only 53% in "Sound issue" in his Veredict. Can it be???
Any comments will be appreciated. 

     

Hi All,

Some International Bryston Reviews added to the website.

http://www.bryston.com/revinter.html

james


Seems somewhat suspicious review. He claims that Bryston's S/N ratio is too good and one of the reasons why he doesnt like it  :lol:. That wasnt a quote, more infers it. Doesnt post his associated gear anywhere ..... that i can see.

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Re: Bryston International Reviews
« Reply #5 on: 24 Apr 2009, 12:10 am »
Hi James.
Recently, I read the Hi Fi News review (BCD-1)  And for my surprise...the reviewer grant only 53% in "Sound issue" in his Veredict. Can it be???
Any comments will be appreciated. 

     

Hi All,

Some International Bryston Reviews added to the website.

http://www.bryston.com/revinter.html

james


Seems somewhat suspicious review. He claims that Bryston's S/N ratio is too good and one of the reasons why he doesnt like it  :lol:. That wasnt a quote, more infers it. Doesnt post his associated gear anywhere ..... that i can see.

I agree, it's difficult for me to understand a statment from a quality magazine that a piece of gear is 'too good'.  The whole point of Bryston gear is 'tell me the truth - good or bad'

james

« Last Edit: 24 Apr 2009, 10:58 am by James Tanner »

werd

Re: Bryston International Reviews
« Reply #6 on: 24 Apr 2009, 12:46 am »
Hifi+ and UHF are my two favorite publications. They both read nice, and work  on getting you  acquainted with the equipment. Ive only read once in UHF where they smeared a piece..... a copland intergrated. Stereophile gets to technical and the adds get in the way of the articles somehow, although its not bad. HiFi+ uses great color photography which i like lots. Both mags take audio a bit further with great music reviews, especially Hifi+. One would never read a review like that one in HIFI news, in either of those two publications.

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Re: Bryston International Reviews
« Reply #7 on: 24 Apr 2009, 04:29 am »
I did a 2hr audition last fall with the BCD-1,Arcam's top player then and a Audio research CD-7.
the cd-7 was the one I wanted for a long time.They were all connected to a Audioresearch pre,
so switching was instantaneous.I ousted the Arcam and it was between the BCD-1 and CD-7.
To my ears I kept going back to the Bryston,but I really wanted the CD-7.
I trusted my ears and haven't looked back,and I saved a mess of cash for more Bryston gear :thumb:.

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Re: Bryston International Reviews
« Reply #8 on: 12 May 2009, 11:29 pm »
see below
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Re: Bryston International Reviews
« Reply #9 on: 19 May 2009, 01:23 am »
Hi Moon Doggy, thanks 4 your answer.
It?s impossible to me compare that gears. In my country, Bryston don?t have distributors.   

Compare the Bryston to the  Arcam and Meridian players he cites as better. And see what you think. I did. 8)

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« Reply #10 on: 19 May 2009, 07:16 pm »
3/08

HiFi / Surround / Music
Stereoplay


Is it special?

CD players around 3000 Euro are sprinkled with brand typical technical refinements.  Does this result in a unique sound?

Test: Hans-Ulrich Fessler

Whoever invests a cool 3000 Euros in a CD player expects, as a matter of course, not only fundamentally sound workmanship, but also a sound tailored to her or his listening habits.  In order to achieve this the manufacturers whose CD players we have tested proceed along quite different paths.
 
Bryston starts with a strictly CD transport

25 years after the introduction of the CD, Bryston presents its first CD player.  Now finally the Canadian manufacturer has fulfilled the pleas of its fans and built the missing source, i.e. the BCD-1 CD player.
The workmanship and the massive brushed aluminum front exude excellence, while the circuitry is relatively conservative.  The same Philips drive as used in other CD players reads the data, and Bryston ordered the Philips decoder board as well.  Contrary to other manufacturers Bryston did not touch the transport mechanism.  The developers having grown up with amplifiers set a different course.  For example in the power supply a well-engineered toroidal transformer supplies the analog and digital sections with separate windings.  Extremely long lasting capacitors smooth the remaining ripple from the supply voltage, while ten regulators supply the different stages with constant level current.  Extraordinary: Even for the oscillator circuit, responsible for the correct clock pulse and for the D to A converters, the supply current is extra stabilized, and once more filtered.  In order to prevent jitter from appearing in the first place, the clock is located directly next to the D to A converter, while simultaneously it also supplies the transport with the data conversion.

Bryston did not select the Texas Company Cirrus Logic CS 4398, 24 Bit/196 KHz, D to A converters because they are also able to control volume.  No, the Canadians bypassed this capability in order to devote themselves to the symmetrical outputs of this converter chip.  Because signals leave the output of the D to A converters with extremely low levels they must subsequently be freed from digital high-frequency ballast by filtering and then they must be strongly reinforced.  Already the smallest random noises would replicate themselves later, amplified, in the CD player's output signal. In order to prevent the transmission of interference signals through the circuit paths on the printed circuit boards, Bryston spread the distribution of the signals as a "sandwich" on a four layer board.  The current supply and the analog signal paths are in the middle, the ground plane and the opposite paths with large "ground plane islands" for digital signals provide a self-shielding effect.

Analog section of the Bryston CD player with individual components
 
However due to electrical mismatch between the converter chip and the amplification stages signal disturbances could result.  Therefore Bryston precisely matched the amplifying stages for the analog signals to the requirements of the A to D converter with hand selected single transistors and ultra tight tolerance passive components.  The requirement for short signal paths was achieved by the use of surface mount technology (SMD) for the components, and by attaching the sockets directly to the printed circuit board.

How did the Bryston BCD-1 CD player stack up against other CD players?  It steers clear from meddling with the tonal balance like some other players do.  It plays not only extremely cleanly and neutral, but also follows every minute change in tempo without question.  The Bryston BCD-1 effortlessly replicates the most minute action while displaying marked sensitivity for the flow of the music, i.e. revealing the "Swing" of the harmony.  Although critics may claim "this or that" for other CD players, they agreed that the Bryston CD player, in its price class, in reference to matters of purity of tone, neutrality, and forward thrust is right at the top of the group. For Bryston fans the BCD-1 CD player perfectly closes the gap of a source missing until now, which harmonizes seamlessly with the other Bryston components so highly treasured because of their accuracy. 

CONCLUSION
Manufacturers characterize the sound of their CD players with different means.  Because of the sturdy power supply and the output stages based on the design of their outstanding preamps, Bryston's first CD player sounds especially clean and neutral, without added-on warmth or thickened bass.


GENERAL COMMENTS:
Bryston BCD-1
Strength
+ Ultra pure clean sound
+ Trigger input for remote operation
Weaknesses
- Plastic drawer
Bryston BCD-1 
3200 Euro (Manufacturer Information)
Very little jitter (155 ps)
Error Correction
Information errors:      Up to 0.7 mm.
Surface errors:      Up to 1.4 mm.
Signal to Noise Ratio   119 dB
Power Consumption      1.2 W Standby, 10 W Usage

Rating:
Sound CD (Maximum 70 points)      61
Measured Value (Maximum 10 points)    9
Praxis (Maximum 10 points)           8
Quality Rating (Maximum 10 points)    7

From the D to A converters completely symmetrical construction, with trigger input for remote operation.  Sounds decidedly fine and enthralling.


Translated from the German by Peter Ullman   

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Re: Bryston International Reviews
« Reply #11 on: 19 May 2009, 08:00 pm »
January 2008 Issue

hifi & records
The Magazine for High Quality Music Reproduction


NUMBER ONE

Bryston BCD-1 CD Player

25 Years after the introduction of CDs it is finally here: The amplifier specialist Company Bryston presents its first CD Player.

Sometimes surprises and miracles still do occur.  Do you remember how many an "analog manufacturer" fought for years against building a CD player?  Then finally all of them gave in, one after the other, or they simply disappeared.  I tested the first Linn-Digital Combination in 1993, ten years after the introduction of CDs, and already at that time there existed the crisp catch line "Synopsis of Digital Chaos."  However an amplifier manufacturer from Canada allowed much more time for his first CD player, and that is, precisely speaking, until now.

At Bryston clocks apparently tick to a different tune, but the time for such a digital premiere was chosen well.  The turmoil about SACD and DVD-Audio is no longer an issue, with the sad result that none of the new formats will replace the CD standard.  Instead of that "Download" lurks in the background, in other words the loss of the sound storage medium.  However music lovers also don't like that, so once again the CD has moved to the foreground.  Not loved, but needed -- the Hi-Fi World has already written other crazy legends.

Now Bryston, with 25 years delay, dares to build a CD player.   For all intents and purposes not a challenge any more, or?  That's one way of putting it.  Of course today all over the place in China one can order a CD player for a few Euros (or Dollars) to be tacked together by an OEM manufacturer, and then paste ones logo onto it.  Yes, one can do this, but one doesn't have to.  The situation becomes more difficult when one wants to participate in the front ranks of digital technology.  Then "know-how" is necessary, and that is expensive.

For the project "CD Playback" Bryston first of all bolstered its personnel in the digital area, because from nothing comes nothing.  The team of digital and amplifier experts placed the main focus during the development of the BCD-1 on minimal jitter, high-precision D to A conversion, as well as premium analog output stages with an elaborate power supply.

A proven and tested mix, but the audiophile topic "CD transport" does not appear to have played a major role in the target specification, however in this regard Bryston is not alone, but in the best of company.  On the other hand the shallow metal cabinet, as usual with Bryston, is robust and neatly fabricated.  Today there are not many transports to choose from, either a genuine transport from Philips or a DVD variant from the far east.  Bryston decided on the Philips VAM 1202/12 with its triple beam laser, not least because it incorporates a minimal jitter output stage, and is expressly produced for audio use.  A proprietary highly precise master clock almost perfectly synchronizes the CD transport and the D to A converter,  since doing otherwise was out of the question for Bryston.   The D to A conversion is accomplished by a Cirrus Logic dual DAC, the top-of-the-line CS4398.  We already discovered this component in the McIntosh MCD 201 CD player where it also processed DSD signals of SACDs.  For PCM the Bryston CD player uses 24 bit/192 kilohertz which is fed via the differential output of the Cirrus Logic to the symmetrical amplifier stages.  These are built in the best traditional Bryston style, consisting of discrete components and operating in Class A.  No shortcuts were taken at this point, since exactly the same output stage as used in the 26 BPS (Test in Issue 4/2005) is employed here.  Ideal prerequisites in order to transfer the music signal a distance of one meter from the CD player to the preamplifier.

Bryston assembled the entire circuitry, by means of SMD technology, on a printed circuit board with short signal paths.  There are three digital outputs: Toslink, SPDIF, and balanced AES/EBU.  Here Bryston surely also had an eye on the professional sector, and therefore paid attention to maximum compatibility.  It is interesting to note from an audiophile perspective, how well the power supply with its ten regulated supplies and Bryston's own winding of the toroidal transformer for the analog output stages is implemented.  Not quite so convincing is the CD drawer which does not attain much endorsement for the eyes (and ears) of our expert for rasping drawer mechanisms, Stefan Gawlick.

But from an audible perspective our colleague certainly would not raise any objections to the Bryston BCD-1 CD player, because equally precise as the technical implementation (see Laboratory and Technology) is also the sound of the first Bryston CD player.

What immediately becomes apparent about the sound is that nothing is apparent about the sound, no audiophile "show-off" affectation, no special sound, no timing with imposed acceleration, and no artificially enlarged acoustic environment, instead steady, honest, unadulterated, HiFi in the service of music, nothing more, but also nothing  less.
 
The Bryston CD player is an out-and-out honest character, which has little competition in its price class.  Therefore let me try to narrow the qualities of the Bryston CD player over its soul mates, the Trigon Recall (1,700 Euro) and the ART G2 (4,500 Euro) from Audionet.  Compared to the Trigon the additional shot of openness and transparency of the Bryston CD player moves it to the front.  That may surprise some who still remember the old, rather dreary, Bryston sound, but since the era of the SST amplifiers and the BPS 26 preamps that is pass?.  The Audionet CD player resides for the moment with Stefan Gawlick, but nevertheless I dare the prediction, without a direct comparison, that the Bryston CD player does not possess its stature and fundament - thus its mechanism is noticeable.

Therefore my recommendation: Donate a set of "SSC Netpoint" feet (75 Euro) to the Bryston CD player and allocate it a place in a solid rack.  Then it will operate in top form, and it can demonstrate the advantages of its "squeaky-clean" design.  Nothing else is necessary, because the rest of the package is complete including a metal remote control and a good quality line cord.

Conclusion

When you are looking for a straightforward "No-Nonsense" CD player, then the new Bryston  CD player should stand way at the top of your list.  The digital debut of the Canadians, quite in the tradition of unadulterated music reproduction, succeeded brilliantly.  The Bryston CD player is not a piece of equipment for bragging, but rather one that one acquires in order to continue one's loyalty to the storage media CD for many years to come.

Wilfried Kress 


Laboratory Report
Bryston BCD-1                 (Balanced)

Distortion (THD+N)          0.00145%
Intermodulation Distortion (SMPTE)   0.0074%
Intermodulation Distortion (CCIF)   0.00057%
Extraneous Voltage (500k-Filter)         -46.4 dB
Noise Voltage (A rated)         -98 dB
D to A Converter Linearity: -50/-60/-70/-80/-90 dB   0.01/0.02/0.03/0.18/0.88 dB
Channel Difference         0.00 dB
Output Voltage         4.78 V
Output Resistance (1 kHz)         150 ohm
DC-Output-Offset         <0.2 mV

Signal Form Digital Output         - very good

The laboratory was truly impressed, "outstanding, superb", and many of the values are at the edge of feasibility.
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Bryston BCD-1 CD Player   
Dimensions: W x H x D   43 x 8.5 x 28.5 cm. 
Warranty   5 Years
Price    3,200 Euro
Distributor:
Sun Audio
Schneckenburger Stra?e 30
81675 Munich, GERMANY

Translated from the German by Peter Ullman