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Title: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: vortecjr on 25 Jul 2013, 12:39 pm
A few years back my VP came into my office and asked me if we could develop a system to play the newly released Reference Recordings HRX disks with 24/176.4 content. I said, "sure piece of cake." Little did I know that the conversation would turn into months of research and testing to get playback to a level that would make him want to ditch his expensive cd player.  Once we had the solution it became apparent that we should share it so that others could enjoy along with us. To get the word out we advertise in a few locations, but it has been difficult to really connect with our customers. Email is great, but I can't think of a better way to share our products and what we have learned along the way than here on Audio Circle! In the coming weeks, we will introduce our products new and old and we hope you stop in from time to time to chat with us...

I also want to thank JohnR who has been working with us for a few weeks to make this possible.

Regards,

Jesus R
Founder
www.sonore.us
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: ted_b on 25 Jul 2013, 12:48 pm
Welcome Jesus!!!   :)

I can speak for this man and his Company.  A real stand up guy, and a very forward thinking audio Company, doing things in streaming, DSD and overall advanced computer audio that brings great stuff to AC.  Welcome!!

BTW, those of you who have thanked me or commented on how great the Google Docs DSD database is?   It's Jesus 's baby!  I'm just helping co-ordinate it.  :)
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: vortecjr on 25 Jul 2013, 01:08 pm
Ted, what can I say...YOU ROCK:)

Jesus R
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: gocubs42 on 25 Jul 2013, 01:27 pm
Jesus I'm eager to hear details and pricing on your Sonore Sonic Orbiter. Is this a Logitech/Touch replacement on steroids?
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: woodsyi on 25 Jul 2013, 01:33 pm
Welcome to AC, Jesus. 
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: martyo on 25 Jul 2013, 01:56 pm
Welcome.

FYI- When I try the link my security software blocks your site.
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: vortecjr on 25 Jul 2013, 02:00 pm
gocubs42, that is the idea:) The Sonic Orbiter was designed with simplicity in mind though and only has USB output on the standard version. Internally, we can connect a high quality Asynchronous USB to SPDIF/AES-EBU/Optical converter to expand it's outputs as needed. We generally only add what the customers needs to keep cost down and to keep the unit as simple as possible. The idea is that less is more. The units operate on the Logitech system (LMS and APPs) so you have access to it's features. The cost is currently looking like 899 to 949 USD for the standard unit. These unit has a nice linear supply internally so nothing else is needed to get started. We are pretty close to finishing the first batch and I think I'll start a new post for it and add some images of the internals.

Jesus R
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: vortecjr on 25 Jul 2013, 02:07 pm
Welcome.

FYI- When I try the link my security software blocks your site.

martyo, I'm not having any issues accessing it. I'm on a Mac thought and I don't run security software. Try a different computer or turn of Big Brother.

Jesus R 
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: vortecjr on 25 Jul 2013, 02:09 pm
Welcome to AC, Jesus.

Thanks!

Jesus R
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: rodge827 on 25 Jul 2013, 02:25 pm
Welcome Jesus glad to have you here!  :thumb:
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: JerryM on 25 Jul 2013, 02:46 pm
Welcome to AC!  :beer:
Title: Re: Sonore Sonic Orbiter
Post by: firedog on 25 Jul 2013, 03:05 pm
Jesus-
Great to have you here.

Can you explain in "dummies" terms, what this means:
"The Sonic Orbiter supports DSD/DoP pass thru from DoP encoded files"

How does it play DSD? The present standard LMS won't even recognize DSD files and catalog them in the Library.

Does attaching the Sonic Orbiter as a player mean LMS on my server will recognize the DSD files and output them to the orbiter as DoP encoded DSD?
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: ted_b on 25 Jul 2013, 03:12 pm
Firedog,
I could be wrong but I think he means the new DOp passthru idea, where you use a streamer like this (which is not DSD-capable) to at least enable DoP passthru, so a DSD Dac connected to the Orbiters USB, could see the DoP files and play their DSD ride-along.  It takes another computer and player (needed to do DoP) out of it. 
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: vortecjr on 25 Jul 2013, 03:17 pm
Welcome Jesus glad to have you here!  :thumb:

rodge827, thanks!

Jesus R
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: vortecjr on 25 Jul 2013, 03:18 pm
Welcome to AC!  :beer:

JerryM, a pint of bitter to you as well!

Jesus R
Title: Re: Sonore Sonic Orbiter
Post by: vortecjr on 25 Jul 2013, 03:41 pm
Jesus-
Great to have you here.

Can you explain in "dummies" terms, what this means:
"The Sonic Orbiter supports DSD/DoP pass thru from DoP encoded files"

How does it play DSD? The present standard LMS won't even recognize DSD files and catalog them in the Library.

Does attaching the Sonic Orbiter as a player mean LMS on my server will recognize the DSD files and output them to the orbiter as DoP encoded DSD?

firedog, I knew that the topic would eventually come up and this is why I like the forum for explaining things. There are a few programs that will take DSD content and encode it in DoP and then insert it into a WAV or FLAC file. If you do that process the Sonore Sonic Orbiter will push the data through bit perfect and it will play into a device that supports DoP. The intention and end result is native DSD playback.

That said....there is actually some support for DSD in LMS. However, it's a work in progress and it's hard to predict when, if and how it will become available. I try to push those projects along behind the scenes, but it's complicated, takes time and a great amount of patients. If it becomes available I'll share the prescription with everyone. BTW any upgrade to add DSD happens at the LMS side of things and not at the Sonore Sonic Orbiter....

Jesus R
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: highfilter on 25 Jul 2013, 04:17 pm
Warm welcome, Jesus!

Another +1 for this man and Sonore by Simple Design in general.

Very solid support and communication. The kind of thing that if you are having issues and report them, they will build in a fix and send you the updated firmware (sometimes the next day) and the update is easy and actually works! Talking from experience with the Sonore Rendu, fantastic product.

Glad to see you have your own spot on AC.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: vortecjr on 25 Jul 2013, 04:48 pm
Warm welcome, Jesus!

Another +1 for this man and Sonore by Simple Design in general.

Very solid support and communication. The kind of thing that if you are having issues and report them, they will build in a fix and send you the updated firmware (sometimes the next day) and the update is easy and actually works! Talking from experience with the Sonore Rendu, fantastic product.

Glad to see you have your own spot on AC.  :thumb:

highfilter, I'm still not able to preform miracles, but I try:)

Thanks

Jesus R

Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: mr_bill on 25 Jul 2013, 05:46 pm
Jesus,
Are the music files stored on the orbiter or does it look through the network to access the music files?
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: vortecjr on 25 Jul 2013, 05:59 pm
Jesus,
Are the music files stored on the orbiter or does it look through the network to access the music files?

mr_bill, it works the other way around. You store your library anyplace on the network and configure Logitech Media Server (LMS) to see the library. LMS then streams the data to the Sonore Sonic Orbiter. This keeps the server and its noisy power supplies away from listening room..

Jesus R
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: jeffh on 25 Jul 2013, 06:35 pm
 :thumb: Welcome to AC. Great to have you here.
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: vortecjr on 25 Jul 2013, 08:50 pm
:thumb: Welcome to AC. Great to have you here.

It's great to be here..

Thanks

Jesus R
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: jackman on 25 Jul 2013, 09:07 pm
Hi Jesus,
Welcome to audiocircle!  I've been looking at your USB DAC on your website and look forward to learning more about your company and your products. 

Best of luck to you!

Jack
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: catastrofe on 25 Jul 2013, 09:20 pm
Welcome Jesus!!!   :)

I can speak for this man and his Company.  A real stand up guy, and a very forward thinking audio Company, doing things in streaming, DSD and overall advanced computer audio that brings great stuff to AC.  Welcome!!

BTW, those of you who have thanked me or commented on how great the Google Docs DSD database is?   It's Jesus 's baby!  I'm just helping co-ordinate it.  :)

I second Ted's comments.  I've been dealing with/pestering Jesus since 2008.  He graciously spent time on the phone explaining his server solutions on multiple occasions, even though I didn't spend a dime with him.  That changed a couple of years ago, when I purchased one of his custom servers.

Jesus provides the best customer service in the industry, and his products are top-notch.  I'm really excited about his Rendu renderer, and can highly recommend Sonore to anyone looking for a computer/streaming solution.

Glad you're here on AudioCircle Jesus!
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: vortecjr on 25 Jul 2013, 11:05 pm
Hi Jesus,
Welcome to audiocircle!  I've been looking at your USB DAC on your website and look forward to learning more about your company and your products. 

Best of luck to you!

Jack

Jack, I plan to feature a different product every week or so until we have the core offering on our circle. Just let me know any special requests. Anyway, I sent you an email regarding your other questions.

Jesus R
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: vortecjr on 25 Jul 2013, 11:12 pm
I second Ted's comments.  I've been dealing with/pestering Jesus since 2008.  He graciously spent time on the phone explaining his server solutions on multiple occasions, even though I didn't spend a dime with him.  That changed a couple of years ago, when I purchased one of his custom servers.

Jesus provides the best customer service in the industry, and his products are top-notch.  I'm really excited about his Rendu renderer, and can highly recommend Sonore to anyone looking for a computer/streaming solution.

Glad you're here on AudioCircle Jesus!

catastrofe, it seems like we started yesterday. BTW I appreciate your loyalty and spreading the good word over the years on various forums!

Thanks

Jesus R
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: PeteG on 25 Jul 2013, 11:29 pm
Another big welcome to AC, I've been enjoying Jesus exD  dac for a while :thumb:.
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: vortecjr on 26 Jul 2013, 12:29 am
Another big welcome to AC, I've been enjoying Jesus exD  dac for a while :thumb:.

PeteG, nice to see you here as well.

Thanks

Jesus R
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: jtwrace on 26 Jul 2013, 10:53 am
WOW!  Welcome to AC.  I'm still, uh, surprised you're here.   :o 

But happy.   :thumb:
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: playntheblues on 26 Jul 2013, 12:40 pm
Welcome to AC, its great to have new folks with new ideas......Cheers!    :beer:
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: vortecjr on 26 Jul 2013, 01:08 pm
WOW!  Welcome to AC.  I'm still, uh, surprised you're here.   :o 

But happy.   :thumb:

jtwracem, LOL Thanks for stopping in!

Jesus R
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: vortecjr on 26 Jul 2013, 01:09 pm
Welcome to AC, its great to have new folks with new ideas......Cheers!    :beer:

playntheblues, a pint of bitter to you as well!

Jesus R
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: InfernoSTi on 26 Jul 2013, 01:11 pm
Welcome! 

I can add to the folks saying what a great guy Jesus (and Sonore, by extension) is.  I had some issues with driver installation (Windows 8 Pro 64 bit) and Jesus traded e-mails with me until the issue was resolved.  Great customer service! 

Best,
John
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: glynnw on 26 Jul 2013, 01:20 pm
Glad to see you here.  I am a happy user of several SOtM devices and can agree that Jesus offers great customer service.
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: vortecjr on 26 Jul 2013, 01:28 pm
Welcome! 

I can add to the folks saying what a great guy Jesus (and Sonore, by extension) is.  I had some issues with driver installation (Windows 8 Pro 64 bit) and Jesus traded e-mails with me until the issue was resolved.  Great customer service! 

Best,
John

John, one of the goals of this circle is to post similar issues and the solutions so it helps everyone.

Thanks

Jesus R
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: wisnon on 26 Jul 2013, 01:30 pm
Welcome....but what took you so long???

LoL.

Thanks for classing up the joint!
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: vortecjr on 26 Jul 2013, 01:41 pm
Glad to see you here.  I am a happy user of several SOtM devices and can agree that Jesus offers great customer service.

glynnw, It's my pleasure. SOtM has really made a huge dent in computer audio and they have some cool stuff coming down the pipe line..

Jesus R
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: vortecjr on 26 Jul 2013, 01:45 pm
Welcome....but what took you so long???

LoL.

Thanks for classing up the joint!

wisnon, it's been on my to do list for a while. Things just get crazy pretty fast around here...

Jesus R
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: cremar on 26 Jul 2013, 04:16 pm
Welcome Jesus!!! 

I can also add to the folks saying what a great guy Jesus is.  I've flooded him with emails :oops: and he has always had a helpful reply, as well as being happy to work through technical issues I may have.  He's one of the good guys in audio.
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: vortecjr on 26 Jul 2013, 10:31 pm
Welcome Jesus!!! 

I can also add to the folks saying what a great guy Jesus is.  I've flooded him with emails :oops: and he has always had a helpful reply, as well as being happy to work through technical issues I may have.  He's one of the good guys in audio.

cremar, it's nice to see familiar faces in here!

Thanks

Jesus R
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: jtwrace on 28 Jul 2013, 04:55 pm
Not a big deal but I wanted to go to your website and went back to the circle home page and noticed that your website isn't listed like this:

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=84404)

I tried to use a neutral example.   :)
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: vortecjr on 28 Jul 2013, 09:25 pm
Not a big deal but I wanted to go to your website and went back to the circle home page and noticed that your website isn't listed like this:

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=84404)

I tried to use a neutral example.   :)

jtwrace, good point, but I don't have room for the link for some reason. I have to ask John about that....

Jesus R
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: ted_b on 28 Jul 2013, 10:49 pm
jtwrace, good point, but I don't have room for the link for some reason. I have to ask John about that....

Jesus R

Then put it in your signature at least...?
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: vortecjr on 29 Jul 2013, 10:01 pm
Then put it in your signature at least...?

jtwrace/teb, I deleted the statement and added the address so it appears under the avatar....

Jesus R
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: ted_b on 29 Jul 2013, 10:03 pm
Ok, but it's not linkable
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: vortecjr on 29 Jul 2013, 11:35 pm
Ok, but it's not linkable

Ted, that and then I noticed that if you just press on the globe it will take you to the site anyway. I put it back and next I'll ask John to fix the issues jtwrace noticed..

Jesus R 
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: fejnomit on 27 Dec 2013, 05:19 pm
Hi Jesus,

Wondering if you could talk about the new DSD capable DAC, specifically if it will ever be able to play 2X DSD files?

Thanks,

fej
Title: Re: Sonore by Simple Design now on Audio Circle
Post by: vortecjr on 30 Dec 2013, 01:35 pm
Which DAC are you referring to?

Jesus R