Although I can't comment on the specific tube pre's mentioned above, I have become quite partial to a tube preamp with the Nuforces. I'm using a Don Allen custom tube pre, which I auditioned against two very highly regarded passive preamps. I found the passive pre/Nuforce combination to be a bit dry for my taste. The Don Allen tube pre contributes harmonic richness & a musical "rightness" with no loss of detail or extension at the frequency extremes, and significantly better dynamics and PRAT. I've been meaning to post a review, but haven't had the time. As always, everything is system- and taste-dependent, and others may have different experiences.