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The Commercial Zone => Audio Shows and Events => Rocky Mountain Audio Fest => Topic started by: DaveC113 on 14 Oct 2013, 12:59 am
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I had a great time at the show this year, even ran into Tyson and Pez in a couple of rooms, great to meet you guys and hear the tracks you were listening to. :thumb:
I tried to take pics without a flash to capture the ambiance of the room and not annoy other folks too much.
Test tracks are stuff I like... I made one track with ~1 min clips of several different things... Infected Mushroom - Becoming Insane, Thievery Corporation - Lebanese Blonde, Beats Antique - Daze, Bonobo - Walk in the Sky, Bela Fleck - A Moment So Close (from Live at the Quick), Cassandra Wilson - Another Country.
Here we go!
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HiFi Imports room with Venture speakers and Thrax electronics. Very nice system, easy to listen to... big $100k+ speakers that do everything pretty well. Not as dynamic as some of the huge speakers, but good tonality and balance. One of the better systems at RMAF for sure. This system did a good job on all of my test tracks.
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Aaudio Imports...Lansche Speakers, about $1/4 mil. When I was there, there was a big symphonic piece playing at moderate volumes and the speaker cones were barely moving. These speakers obviously have the ability to fill an auditorium sized space effortlessly. I didn't get to hear my test track but what I heard was excellent. The presentation was more on the bright side, but not harsh or annoying. The plasma tweets are really good, Vaughn also used plasmas and I like them.
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Daedalus and Modwright. Beautiful speakers with high end sound to match. One of the better rooms at the show with the exception of some room acoustics playing havoc with the bass response. There were similar issues with the bass last year too... Playing my test track, I noticed very strong dynamics and great tone... I would love to hear this system with a better room set up. In any case, good value for what you get and these should be a contender for anyone looking at speakers in this price range.
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Classic Audio Loudspeakers w/ Atma-Sphere amps. Did not play my test tracks but I liked the speakers. Big sound, big dynamics, and refinement to boot. Good job!
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Wilson Alexias, one of two rooms featuring these speakers. I liked this system better than Wilsons I have heard previously... I got to play my test track and it handled it all really well. I find the tweeter in Wilsons to be slightly annoying but not horrible. No way would I spend the cash on them with companies like Vapor and Daedalus around offering far better value for the money on big speakers that can play anything. But, this was a good system and the acoustics in the room was tolerable... they clearly spent some time getting the setup right.
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Hi Dave,
Nice pics - thanks for posting. The Modwright / Daedalus room looks really good!
I wish I could be there this year... I'm shooting for 2014! :thumb:
Vinnie
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Tannoy speakers with VAC amps. I got to play my test track and was very impressed. One of the best big systems at the show, very dynamic and engaging sound, it is just fun to listen to. Not as accurate and precise as some, but I prefer the presentation to most of the other big systems.
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Zu! Honestly, I have never liked Zu speakers until now. Still not the last word in refinement, but they aren't nearly as annoying as they used to be. They still sound like PA speakers, but with less annoying artifacts and harshness than I have experienced in the past. This system was VERY dynamic and a lot of fun to listen to. They will fill an auditorium sized space like a massive speaker but they aren't as big or expensive... they will pay at concert level SPLs effortlessly, if you want to recreate a rock or electronic music concert in a large space without spending 6 figures or having it sound like crap these are a great option. The Druids with the subwoofer are about $9k. For what they do this isn't a bad price... I would love to have a pair for when I really want to crank up the volume!
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AudioKinesis, it was great meeting Duke and James, thanks for taking the time to play my test track and talk about your speakers. The Dream Maker system did everything really well, and some things incredibly well. In particular, the way it handled the live Bela Fleck track was one of the best at RMAF, it is a very loud, complex and cluttered track that really doesn't sound very good on most systems. But the Dream Makers unwrapped it and laid it all out with a depth of soundstage unmatched by anything I have ever heard before. The effects speakers is really well done and surpasses a typical bi/dipole to a large degree. That said, the tonal balance is not to my personal preference, it is laid back and a little on the dark side, where I prefer a bright/forward presentation as long as it's not harsh or fatiguing... something that isn't easy to do. The AudioKenisis speakers do not lack detail though, just my own personal preferences... I do think the highs are a bit rolled off at the extreme high end though. The room setup was good but not perfect, there were still some bass issue, but minor ones that did not detract from hearing what the systems can do. In any case, if you are looking for a system in this price range these are well worth putting on the short list.
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Salk / Van Alstine. I listened to the stand mount speakers, they had a fairly high level of refinement and do a great job on some music, but the speakers really didn't like my test track... nevertheless I do appreciate any room that will play test tracks brought in by attendees. I also appreciate the system for what it is, but I really didn't like it. For the kind of music I listen to and my own personal preferences it just didn't work.
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Hi Dave,
Nice pics - thanks for posting. The Modwright / Daedalus room looks really good!
I wish I could be there this year... I'm shooting for 2014! :thumb:
Vinnie
No problem Vinnie, I hope to see you at RMAF next year! :)
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SST Audio amps and Volti Speakers. OK, this is a great room, I really liked it a lot. It featured FOUR 813 SET monoblocks making 40 wpc at $62k for a pair. The speakers are 99 dB sensitivity and combined with the huge SET amps makes for effortless dynamics. One of the more enjoyable systems to listen to at the show for sure, it did a great job with everything I threw at it.
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TAD speakers and Zesto electronics. OK, but seems like a bit of a mismatch on the speaker/amp pairing. Decent, but the all-TAD system using the same speakers was much better. The TAD amps are over $60k for the pair so maybe not a fair fight...
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MBL downsized for the show this year, but the sound was certainly recognizable as MBL. I like MBL stuff but the way it images isn't my personal preference, they are larger than life, float a bit and aren't as precise as some. Tradeoff is a huge sweet spot, they sound good everywhere in the room. Very cool speakers...
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King Sound 'stats. Really nice system, I enjoyed listening to it. Didn't play my test track as the room was a little crowded when I stopped by. Well worth checking out, all the benefits and tradeoffs of a full range 'stat. This one is better than most, but if you're looking at 'stats the Sanders are head and shoulders above the rest imo.
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Dave, it was really great to meet you finally. I had a great time chatting with you as well as reading your coverage here.
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Odyssey. Probably the best value for the money of anyone at the show. The room was one of a small handful of expertly setup systems and I got to play my test track so I got a good feel for it and was blown away by what I heard. It does everything really well, no matter what you throw at it, with a level of refinement you'd expect from a system 10x it's cost. Odyssey is one of a half dozen or less speakers I'd consider in the under $10k range, but unlike all the others Odyssey offers affordable amplifiers optimized for their speakers as well, taking the guesswork out of the crucial speaker-amp pairing. Tonal balance is also to my own preferences, the beryllium tweeter does a good job of providing a detailed, open and slightly forward presentation without being annoying. It's a great tweeter and I dislike most tweeters. Although this year there were a lot more really good tweeters than in years past, I think they are getting better in general.
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Vaughn and Wavelength, another really great system at RMAF. The speakers use a tube modulated plasma tweeter that was expertly blended with a Fostex wideband driver to make some of the sweetest mids and highs I've ever heard. The system did a good job on everything, was very lively and fun to listen to, but the bass and low end impact were a little lacking. I wonder if the low end was dialed back because of difficult acoustics in the room, which seems likely... the low end is supplied with a sub/plate amp built into the speakers. These speakers aren't cheap at $15k but they are unique and the tweets offer a level of performance and refinement rarely found in any speaker regardless of price.
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Dave, it was really great to meet you finally. I had a great time chatting with you with you as well as Reading your coverage here.
Thanks, you too... wish we had more time to hang out. :green:
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Tidal and Audio Power Labs amps. Tidal speakers have a very different presentation than most, I'm not sure why or if I really like it, but it is very unique. They are not bipoles and have no "ambiance" drivers but the way they image it sounds like it. At first it throws me off but after a couple minutes I get used to it and appreciate it, in many ways the sound quality of Tidal is incredible. They are really clear and well balanced with plenty of detail and full high frequency extension, yet are also not forward sounding or bright... they are relaxed and easy to listen to. The soundstage is a little further back but not recessed, my only nit is the images aren't sharply defined, the boundaries are a little softer. They are seriously good speakers and I'm sure they will have an audience with some, but wouldn't be in the running for me.
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GR Research... this is a very, very cool system. It's also fun to listen to because of the effortless dynamics, but it's not my style. The way line arrays image can be a little wonky and I'm not a huge fan of the planar tweeter panels. But, they are still an amazing speaker and a good value for what you get... I'm sure a lot of folks love them. Also, they have a decent selection of music and take requests but can't/wouldn't play my test track, which is both on CD and USB drive .wav format... same issue as last year. It's impossible to get more than a vague idea about the system without being able to play music you are very familiar with. I may have loved the way it handled some of my music but I'll never know.
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Nola. I didn't like the Boxers last year and I don't like these either. At some things they are just plain bad. The guy running the room was talking loudly over the music being played. He kept the volume on the low side and removed my test track 10 seconds into the Bela Fleck track because it sounded so bad. And it did, it sounded terrible. Sorry.
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TAD. Hands down the best system at RMAF and the best system I've ever heard. Speaker manufacturers selling speakers over ~$25k should acknowledge the vast superiority of TAD over their product and throw in the towel. Manufacturers selling less expensive gear should invest in a TAD system as a reference. In so many areas, most speakers can't even come close. I've heard systems that can match the TAD system in one area or another but nothing that does EVERYTHING at such a high level. Dynamics, impact, tone, clarity, detail, imaging... literally every aspect of a speaker's performance is done at world class levels. While not cheap, TAD tops out under $100k for speakers and the amps were ~$65k. You can spend more money on a system but you will be paying for equipment that is clearly inferior to TAD. So in that respect it's a good value, but unfortunately still out of the budget for a vast majority of folks.
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Jeff Rowland. Beautiful gear, sounded good but I honestly don't remember much. I used to have a photographic memory for stuff like this but I'm getting older. :scratch:
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HUGE Cessaro horn speakers. The room was pretty full so I didn't ask to play my test track, but a large scale symphonic piece was playing and it was VERY impressive. Limitless volume and dynamics, great tone, great imaging. I wish i could hear my track on this system, but with larger more crowded rooms sometimes I don't ask unless the folks running the room are clearly asking people if they have requests or material they want to hear.
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More later... still have Vapor, Scaena(?), Wilson Alexandria XLF, Linkwitz, Sanders, dc10, PranaFidelity and a few others to post up. :D
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Damn son, you are killin' it!
And it was really great to meet you. Glad you are posting impressions - I love reading this stuff!
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AudioKinesis, it was great meeting Duke and James, thanks for taking the time to play my test track and talk about your speakers. The Dream Maker system did everything really well, and some things incredibly well. In particular, the way it handled the live Bela Fleck track was one of the best at RMAF, it is a very loud, complex and cluttered track that really doesn't sound very good on most systems. But the Dream Makers unwrapped it and laid it all out with a depth of soundstage unmatched by anything I have ever heard before. The effects speakers is really well done and surpasses a typical bi/dipole to a large degree. That said, the tonal balance is not to my personal preference, it is laid back and a little on the dark side, where I prefer a bright/forward presentation as long as it's not harsh or fatiguing... something that isn't easy to do. The AudioKenisis speakers do not lack detail though, just my own personal preferences... I do think the highs are a bit rolled off at the extreme high end though. The room setup was good but not perfect, there were still some bass issue, but minor ones that did not detract from hearing what the systems can do. In any case, if you are looking for a system in this price range these are well worth putting on the short list.
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Salk / Van Alstine. I listened to the stand mount speakers, they had a fairly high level of refinement and do a great job on some music, but the speakers really didn't like my test track... nevertheless I do appreciate any room that will play test tracks brought in by attendees. I also appreciate the system for what it is, but I really didn't like it. For the kind of music I listen to and my own personal preferences it just didn't work.
What kinda music do you like. I have a friend that love the Salk Exotic speakers.
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music tracks are listed in the OP.
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Thank you. This wonderful coverage is very much appreciated. Did you do it all by yourself?
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Hi Bob, Yep... just me wandering around looking for bright shiny things for a a few days. :green:
@worldcat, I've heard Salk/AVA a few times and it's just doesn't match up with my preferences. It was one of the worst at playing the live Bela Fleck track, and just doesn't match up to what I value in my audio system. Any non-mega-$ system must make compromises...
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Sanders, about the same system and setup as last year, which is excellent and one of the best systems at RMAF regardless of price. Great value for the money here, the entire system - source is about $14k. It doesn't provide the last word in impact or "slam" compared to some conventional speakers, and the speakers are very tall, which produced images higher up in the room, closer to the cieling. I think it would be good if the electrostatic panel can be lowered a bit, maybe the woofer section could be offset to one side? Also, they do not play test tracks brought in by attendees, which is a huge issue. Despite my nit picking, the system does a lot of things really well and is well worth checking out. This is one of my friend's favorite system and he is getting pretty close to pulling the trigger on it.
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Scaena line arrays, WOW! Impressive system, and probably due to fewer visitors at the Hyatt the folks running the room were happy to play my test track. It's always cool when you can get a few minutes on a 6-figure system :thumb: And the system sounds impressive too, it's barely working to produce moderate volumes in a large room. The sound is not exactly to my preferences, but it erred on the side of smoothness and warmth, so it was a lot of fun to listen to and had a really non-fatiguing sound. It handled all my test tracks really well. It wouldn't be my first choice for a mega-$ system but it was very good.
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Wow. Great in depth reviews. Thanks :thumb:
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Vapor... lots of pics because this room had some of the prettiest equipment at RMAF. The speakers are incredibly impressive, with cabinet work you'd expect to find on speakers that cost 6 figures. The Nimbus (larger speakers) and Arte-Forma SET amps were very impressive and did a great job on my test tracks. They are big speakers and sound like it, but are also refined and detailed as well. A great value for sure. The Joules were even better though... very clear and detailed, they just disappear in the room. Where I was sitting the Nimbus' bass seemed fairly clean, but the Joules had some issues with the room acoustics... even so, you could get a good idea of the differences between the Nimbus and Joules, and you have to forgive some set up issues at shows that would never be acceptable in a more permanent installation. Vapor also offers some more affordable stand-mount options, personally I would go with the Cirrus stand mounts and add a few 12" sealed servo subs to fill in the bottom end rather than go with the Joules, but I don't have a room big enough for the Joules anyway. Great value for the money and worth looking at if TAD is out of your price range...
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Linkwitz, I got to hear him talk a bit about his design but the room was full and I just heard a few minutes of some of his demo music. What I heard was impressive for sure. But I really don't agree with his design principles and theories 100%... my favorite speakers all happen to be in built into boxes. :wink:
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LRE Fourier. Interesting design that shows a lot of promise, although a little rough around the edges. Needs better components, especially the tweeter, but the presentation was very good. The way the backwave of the speaker was directed upward was unique and worked pretty well. The speakers were being driven by a cheap receiver and cd player which probably added to the somewhat unrefined sound, but overall I was really impressed with the design. It definitely needs some nicer cabinetry and parts, I hope this idea gets developed further as the owner is an acoustics engineer and is thinking outside the box with this design.
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dc10 audio. Very unique speakers... the horn also serves as a port for the box, and there is a wooden membrane that resonates with the music and is excited by the speaker's backwave, returning some of the acoustic energy and increasing efficiency. They played only some of my test track, but to be fair they were demoing the system with shorter clips of music so folks could hear a variety of material in a shorter amount of time... still wish I could have heard the entire thing though. What I heard was very good, they are competent speakers on all kinds of music, which they should be at $20k. The woodworking is amazing and the speakers are works of art, some of the nicest looking speakers at the show for sure. Lat year they showed some less expensive speakers that I liked alot... and I like these too but at $20k you're getting into a very competitive market and if you can afford $20k you can afford $30k for a set of TADs. :lol: I wanted to come back Sunday afternoon to hear the bigger L'Instrument speakers but didn't make it as a friend was with me on Sunday and we only had a short time to visit rooms with speakers he was interested in purchasing. In any case, these are really nice speakers and well worth checking out.
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A new electrstat super tweeter, the Enigma Coustics Sopranino, being demo'ed with already competent Magico V3s. Not cheap at $4k for a pair, but they sound great. I wanted to steal them and bring them over to the Audiokenisis room... :P Enigma also has a speaker, the Mythgology M1 that is a 2 way stand mount with the supertweeter, it was in another room and I did not get to hear them.
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I popped in here near the end of the day and I didn't play my test track and honestly don't remember much about the sound. I suppose I could make some stuff up though. :lol: Anyway, looks like the speakers were just removed from the fuselage of the NSA's new spy drone or something. Very cool industrial design for sure, sorry I don't have better info on the sound.
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Wilson Alexandria XLF with Thor's Hammer Subs. This system was being demo'ed as a 20 minute show with carefully selected tracks that really show off the abilities of the system. And it was incredibly impressive... but not as good as TAD. I'd put them 2nd to TAD though, and that's saying a lot.
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Last but certainly not least is PranaFidelity. I stayed in here a while, as Jason and Pez just walked in, so I heard their test tracks, then played my own and heard a couple tracks Steve, the owner, put on that were really nice too. The speakers were under $4k, pretty unassuming looking stand mount MTMs... but the performance was extraordinary for the size and price. I was amazed at what this system could do, and it did it all really well. The electronics driving them are a little pricier, the amp is ~$9k and makes 400W, maybe a little overkill... the pre ranges from $4500 - $9k depending on options. Anyway, these are a must-listen if you are considering speaker in the <$5k range along with Odyssey and Vapor...
So that's it for my coverage... can't wait til next year! :green:
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Dave,
I thoroughly enjoyed your review. Thank you for a great job. I never miss the chance for vicarious thrills. :thumb:
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No pics of the Varghn plasma tweeters? I heard that the Absolute Sound has requested a review pair,
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Great photos and comments, thanks.
But the two lines I quoted below? Awesome. 8)
Speaker manufacturers selling speakers over ~$25k should acknowledge the vast superiority of TAD over their product and throw in the towel. Manufacturers selling less expensive gear should invest in a TAD system as a reference.
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No pics of the Varghn plasma tweeters? I heard that the Absolute Sound has requested a review pair,
Of course I did, it's here: http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=120514.msg1267302#msg1267302
Vaughn did a great job, certainly a standout room at RMAF this year.
@Don and Steidl, thanks!
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Dave, superb coverage! great pics and even better info. I keep looking at some of that stuff and thinking 'was that the same show we were at?????'
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The biggest problem with the Sanders speakers is touched on year after year; they are probably the "beamiest" speakers known. That combined with Roger's continued refusal to allow any music other than his own (and usually his specific choices) to be played makes it hard to really evaluate the sound of his system.
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That's exactly why we skipped the Sanders system all together this year.
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Yeah... I have mixed feeling about the Sanders system for those reasons. It seems like people are trying to hide something when they refuse to play show attendees' music. And the beaming thing is certainly an issue for some... it isn't ideal. However, the system does a lot of things really well, especially for the price. My friend is planning on visiting Sanders' shop in Conifer, if I go with him I should have the opportunity to play other music... hopefully. :scratch:
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AudioKinesis, it was great meeting Duke and James, thanks for taking the time to play my test track and talk about your speakers. The Dream Maker system did everything really well, and some things incredibly well. In particular, the way it handled the live Bela Fleck track was one of the best at RMAF, it is a very loud, complex and cluttered track that really doesn't sound very good on most systems. But the Dream Makers unwrapped it and laid it all out with a depth of soundstage unmatched by anything I have ever heard before. The effects speakers is really well done and surpasses a typical bi/dipole to a large degree. That said, the tonal balance is not to my personal preference, it is laid back and a little on the dark side, where I prefer a bright/forward presentation as long as it's not harsh or fatiguing... something that isn't easy to do. The AudioKinesis speakers do not lack detail though, just my own personal preferences... I do think the highs are a bit rolled off at the extreme high end though. The room setup was good but not perfect, there were still some bass issue, but minor ones that did not detract from hearing what the systems can do. In any case, if you are looking for a system in this price range these are well worth putting on the short list.
Thank you very much, Dave! I appreciate your not only spending a bit of time in our room but finding it worthy of comment here.
I agree with your assessment of the somewhat laid-back top end. The top end is user-adjustable, and the untreated room seemed too bright to me for a more "flat" top end. The Celestion compression driver used extends to an honest 20 kHz so it wasn't a lack of extension per se, it was a voicing choice that I made taking the room's acoustics into account. With a bit more diffusion, I'd have adjusted the top end for a bit more energy, but under the circumstances I figured a flat top-end in a bright room would chase off more people than it would impress.
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Hi Duke, well worth noting the top end is adjustable, I did not know that! And you may be right about chasing people off, as I said I do prefer a brighter, more forward presentation in general.
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Did you get to hear EMIA? thought you might have dropped in there.
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Of course I did, it's here: http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=120514.msg1267302#msg1267302
Vaughn did a great job, certainly a standout room at RMAF this year.
@Don and Steidl, thanks!
Thanks Dave, I missed that. Here is a rave from Audio Beats on the Vaughn speakers. Said they were a True Best of Show sound.
http://www.theaudiobeat.com/rmaf2013/rmaf2013_vaughn.htm
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Hi Josh, what is EMIA? I guess if I have to ask I probably didn't see them room though... :green:
Hi Tom, I think Vaughn isn't getting enough recognition for the system he brought. It was really good, especially the mids/highs...
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EMIA is Jeffrey Jackson (former Eleven Horns, some others) + Dave Slagle (Intact Audio)
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I did miss that room... :(
I wish I would have stopped by as I am interested in Intact's autoformer volume controls.
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Hey Dave, it was nice to meet ... for some reason I pictured you a more of an unkempt old curmudgeon, not a young stylish dude :D
Next time, you and I can chase everybody out of the room with an electronica-fest. I'm always looking for a reason to dig into my collection, and I know I have a few jewels in there that would have had you writing down names.
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Hi Ryan, good to meet you too, I would definitely be interested in checking out your collection. Lol, I'm closing in on 40 real quick, but I'll take the "young" comment. :thumb:
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Hi Ryan, good to meet you too, I would definitely be interested in checking out your collection. Lol, I'm closing in on 40 real quick, but I'll take the "young" comment. :thumb:
I hear ya on that ... just one more year till 40 for me :o
One that pops into my head, check out Monolake - Ghosts. Very spatial, ambient, ethereal kinda of stuff.
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Audio Beat wound up giving the Wavelenth-Vaughn system as the best of show.
http://www.theaudiobeat.com/rmaf2013/rmaf2013_wavelength_vaughn.htm
A friend now has these plasma drivers in his system and he says this is definitely a game changer.
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Thanks for the coverage and photos Dave. 8)
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Agreed with everyone else here, Dave - your coverage and comments are killer. It was great meeting you this year.
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Great value for the money and worth looking at if TAD is out of your price range...
I've had both in my room and I chose the Vapors.
Steve N.
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Steve, you mean the Nimbus?
I'd need to hear both under more identical conditions to know for sure. I do think the Nimbus sounded better at the show, I was front row center and the bass was pretty clean... not perfect but good. I was 3rd row center listening to the Joules and the bass was way more out of control, which made it difficult to compare the two. I do think there is a more ethereal, clear and detailed presentation of the mids and highs with the Joules. Both great speakers though...
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Steve, you mean the Nimbus?
I'd need to hear both under more identical conditions to know for sure. I do think the Nimbus sounded better at the show, I was front row center and the bass was pretty clean... not perfect but good. I was 3rd row center listening to the Joules and the bass was way more out of control, which made it difficult to compare the two. I do think there is a more ethereal, clear and detailed presentation of the mids and highs with the Joules. Both great speakers though...
Both sides had a bass node if you got back beyond the first row. It would have taken a LOT more bass trapping to do anything about it in a room that size. At home where everything is quite well controlled, I'm not sure which speakers bass I like better ... but the Joule is clearly better from 500hz up, just as it should be.
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Hi DaveC,
I was also at the show this year & visited pretty much (but not) all the rooms you visited & (surprisingly) many of my favourites are also your favourites!
You mentioned that you have no recollection of the Rowland-Raidho room - It was very good. Good PRaT from the speakers. good tonality, good timbre, dynamic & not as dark/brooding as prev gen Rowland gear used to be. The larger Model 625 amp was Much more dynamic than a recent smaller-chassis Model 525 class-D amp that was playing the Green Mountain room on Fri & Sat (later on Sat or maybe Sun, Green Mtn Audio switched out the Rowland for the Edge power amp with much better results).
here are my pix from RMAF2013:
https://picasaweb.google.com/bombaywalla9/RMAF2013Day1?authkey=Gv1sRgCOyJ9Z6C85_D8QE# (https://picasaweb.google.com/bombaywalla9/RMAF2013Day1?authkey=Gv1sRgCOyJ9Z6C85_D8QE#)
https://picasaweb.google.com/bombaywalla9/2013RMAFDay2?authkey=Gv1sRgCMeIs6LuxJuOWQ# (https://picasaweb.google.com/bombaywalla9/2013RMAFDay2?authkey=Gv1sRgCMeIs6LuxJuOWQ#)
https://picasaweb.google.com/bombaywalla9/2013RMAFDay3?authkey=Gv1sRgCInAw6LazorokwE# (https://picasaweb.google.com/bombaywalla9/2013RMAFDay3?authkey=Gv1sRgCInAw6LazorokwE#)