Bryston SP4

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« Reply #120 on: 16 Jul 2018, 03:30 pm »
Wow, it was further back then I thought, back in May. Looks like it was originally posted over on Audioholics then brought up in the Trinnov thread on AVS where it was discussed briefly.

Here's both links

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/86-ultra-hi-end-ht-gear-20-000/1516103-trinnov-altitude-147.html#post56282298

https://www.audioholics.com/audio-technologies/dolby-non-native-upmixing-atmos

If Dolby does this you can still play Atmos content through an SP4, just not upmix it. Atmos plays just fine through an Auro3D speaker setup so I don't see an issue. Let's see what happens.

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« Reply #121 on: 16 Jul 2018, 07:45 pm »
The SP3 is basically my MC-12 with HDMI switching but no Logic7 or room EQ so at best it's a lateral move but I personally see it as a lesser SSP so I can't justify the cost of that type of move just to get HDMI, I would need to gain a lot more.

Sorry, but you are as wrong as two left shoes.  :o

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« Reply #122 on: 16 Jul 2018, 09:21 pm »
Sorry, but you are as wrong as two left shoes.  :o

I of course don't mean that literally as if the MC-12 is a rebadged SP3, in fact it's well known that the Lexicon MC-14 was a rebadged SP3.

Sure on the digital side the SP3 can accept up to 192/24 whereas the MC-12 is limited to 96/24 and if comparing the SP3 to the MC-12HD the HDMI specs are 1.4 (2.0 on upgraded/new units) on the SP3 and only 1.2 (I believe) on the MC-12 but both are 10 channel units, have 192/24 DACs, analog bypass but the M-12 has Logic 7 which in my experience is far superior to Dolby PLIIx, dts:Neo and THX Ultra plus the MC-12 has room EQ. I'm not sure if the SP3 can do this but the MC-12 can digitize a 5.1 analog source so that Logic 7/PLIIx/dts:Neo/THX Ultra and room EQ can be applied but to be fair with the SP3 having HDMI it's easier to send SACD/DVD-A from a source device as a digital signal to the SP3 vs an extra round of D/A to A/D conversion. I believe on the MC-12HD you could send DVD-A over HDMI but not SACD as that wasn't allowed until the later version of the HDMI spec.
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Re: Bryston SP4
« Reply #123 on: 17 Jul 2018, 03:19 pm »
IMPORTANT:

Hi Folks,

The Bryston SP-4 Processor iOS IPAD App is now available on AppStore – see attached.
Just go to App Store on your IPAD and type in SP4

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« Reply #124 on: 18 Jul 2018, 02:20 pm »
If you are new to immersive audio and want to get a taste get down to the local movie theater. This video describes the different formats. My experience is the theater does a good job of giving you the immersive experience but generally you can do an even better job at home with the right setup:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym0ls_fNU6Y

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« Reply #126 on: 20 Jul 2018, 03:33 pm »
I of course don't mean that literally as if the MC-12 is a rebadged SP3, in fact it's well known that the Lexicon MC-14 was a rebadged SP3.

Sure on the digital side the SP3 can accept up to 192/24 whereas the MC-12 is limited to 96/24 and if comparing the SP3 to the MC-12HD the HDMI specs are 1.4 (2.0 on upgraded/new units) on the SP3 and only 1.2 (I believe) on the MC-12 but both are 10 channel units, have 192/24 DACs, analog bypass but the M-12 has Logic 7 which in my experience is far superior to Dolby PLIIx, dts:Neo and THX Ultra plus the MC-12 has room EQ. I'm not sure if the SP3 can do this but the MC-12 can digitize a 5.1 analog source so that Logic 7/PLIIx/dts:Neo/THX Ultra and room EQ can be applied but to be fair with the SP3 having HDMI it's easier to send SACD/DVD-A from a source device as a digital signal to the SP3 vs an extra round of D/A to A/D conversion. I believe on the MC-12HD you could send DVD-A over HDMI but not SACD as that wasn't allowed until the later version of the HDMI spec.

Rod, you need to quit these kinds of post. There is no similarity between the MC-12 and the SP3, period.  :o

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Re: Bryston SP4
« Reply #127 on: 8 Aug 2018, 03:26 pm »

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« Reply #128 on: 9 Aug 2018, 02:41 am »
JT, how does the DAC on the SP4 compare to your stand alone dacs or is that an apple and oranges comparison?

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« Reply #129 on: 9 Aug 2018, 10:42 am »
JT, how does the DAC on the SP4 compare to your stand alone dacs or is that an apple and oranges comparison?

Hi

Yes apples and oranges as the DAC's in the BDA-3 are AKM Stereo DACs whereas the DAC in the SP4 is a 16 channel Analog Devices multi-channel DAC.

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Re: Bryston SP4
« Reply #130 on: 21 Aug 2018, 03:53 pm »
Hi Folks,
 
This video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=rvAcJASRSlg) is part of a pre-CEDIA promo campaign we are doing with CE Pro to enhance visibility for the SP4 and the Bryston brand to integrators who serve luxury consumers. I think Gary did a great job.
 
This will be promoted on CE Pro’s website and via their email lists.
 
Thank you,
 
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« Reply #131 on: 21 Aug 2018, 06:11 pm »
...enhance visibility for the SP4 and the Bryston brand to integrators who serve luxury consumers....
 

Micah Sheveloff
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Well that excludes me.  :lol:

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« Reply #132 on: 22 Aug 2018, 05:38 pm »
MEMO: To All Bryston Customers
SUBJECT: Bryston SP-4 Surround Processor – Feature Article

August 2018

Hi Folks

Please see link below regarding the new Bryston SP-4 Surround processor.

       
“Many companies talk a good game, but few companies can back up the talk like the Canadian manufacturer Bryston.”

LINK to article:

https://www.cepro.com/article/fit_for_post_production_applications_bryston_sp4_cinema_processor_delivers


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« Reply #133 on: 25 Aug 2018, 03:40 pm »
MEMO: To All Bryston Customers
SUBJECT: Bryston SP-4 Surround Processor – UK Impressed!

August 2018

Hi Folks,

Great to see the new Bryston SP-4 Surround Processor is making a big splash across the pond!



Unilet Sound and Vision

“After the unparalleled performance of the SP3 with both music as well as movies, we’re finally glad to reveal that the Bryston SP4 brings all of this and more with unrivalled scalability, the latest audio formats and Dirac room correction.




The SP4 is now available to order. Contact us on 02089429567 for details”


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« Reply #135 on: 15 Sep 2018, 12:32 pm »
Hi Folks,

Please see link below - Gary Dayton interview video on the Bryston SP-4 processor at CEDIA 2018

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd3gsq_Kym0

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« Reply #136 on: 18 Sep 2018, 01:19 pm »
Good video, it explains the highlights quite well.

It's very disappointing though that the unit is locked at a paltry 48kHz, this is omitted from all of the info I've seen on the unit thus far. With the max sample rate of 192kHz and DAC's capable of of the same I feel you are doing potential customers a disservice by not pointing out that the actual internal processing is really only 48kHz and the impact that has on content with greater than 48kHz resolution. Thus the following is very misleading from your brochure:

"Bryston isn’t just for audiophiles. Music and movie professionals rely on Bryston to make their masterpieces. Hear at home what the artist intended with a Bryston SP4 theater."

The "...Hear at home what the artist intended with a Bryston SP4 theater." is very misleading. That's where you should be pointing out for customers wanting native high resolution they need to look to your SP3 platform.

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« Reply #137 on: 18 Sep 2018, 02:36 pm »
Hi Rod

Point taken but most movies are at 48K and the SP4 is really geared to that market.  But it is something to consider going forward.

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« Reply #138 on: 18 Sep 2018, 02:53 pm »
Yeah, the more knowledgeable enthusiasts among us do know that so they would know what the trade-offs are if in fact there are any as it's totally dependent on whether the customer has any high res content.

I'm not trying to be an ass about it :) just in case it came across that way it's just providing the customer with the knowledge up front allows them to make the most informed decision as this is a very expensive unit thus some may assume it will do practically anything :)

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« Reply #139 on: 18 Sep 2018, 06:35 pm »
Hi Rod

Point taken but most movies are at 48K and the SP4 is really geared to that market.

james

Thats why I prefer an SP3. But, if you are into object based sound that does not mimic real life experiences, get an SP4 to get those object based codecs.  :lol:  At least Bryston has everyone covered.  8)