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Many people who buy mega buck loudspeakers may not be audiophiles, so their reasons for purchasing high end audio equipment are likely to be quite different than ours. I doubt that the guy buying a pair of $150,000 speakers is gonna tweak or mod out his gear, spend countless hours determining the best placement, obsess over burn-in, search the forums for input and ideas, call his buddies over to conduct crude AB tests, read the latest issue Affordable Audio, search audiogon for the best deals, etc. For them, it's all about status. Sound quality may not be a major factor. And, of course, they aren't concerned about getting value for the dollar. Let's face it -- if any of us had mega bucks to spend on audio, a significant part of our purchasing decision would be based on aesthetics. Personally, I'd buy a pair of the biggest tube monoblocks I could find, and sound quality would be a secondary consideration because I would assume they'd sound great because of the price.
There ya go.I understand fullrangeman; he doesn't like the over emphasized high frequency some tweeters provide. I'm another that doesn't enjoy a tipped up frequency response. It doesn't sound natural at all to me and actually makes me uncomfortable.
I don't enjoy a tipped-up high end either- at least long-term; like a tipped-up midbass, it is something that can "grab" you at first but becomes tiresome quickly. But I have heard many systems, including some that weren't all that expensive, that didn't have the problem.
...near perfect huh?....and then I guess we would then have that those near perfect drivers put into a near perfect cabinet connected to near perfect equipment and placed in a near perfect room.....and voila, near perfect sound...gee that sounds so darn simple its a wonder no one has done that yet. ... ...though as long as we are on this tack would be wonderful for you to clearly define near and perfect....as opposed to say, real, as in the real world... Cheersblutto
I've noticed the trend around here lately is defending high prices and veblen goods. That is a turnaround for AC, as it's been over the years. You might expect the economy would spur the opposite view.
I also surprised by these various post defending these hi prices, maybe AC own a hi ratio of milionaires in the membership... I know some rich people and they are all very miserly.Looks these defenders are AC members from North America, and those brands on Polymer list are USA Hi-End brands.
Buying hifi is NOT a status purchase. Cars, cameras, houses, watches, etc etc are status symbols. Tell someone you drive a Porsche 911 and they think you are successful, tell someone you own a $150k pair of speakers and they think you should be locked up.
Un-compressed drum recordings are hard to find.
If it's so easy and so profitable, maybe you should start a speaker company and get rich instead of whining about how others are doing it
If making expensive speakers is SO EASY, why have I NEVER heard a decent pair of DIY speakers? And I've heard a lot. Screwing a lowther driver into a box doesn't count.
These are not high prices. These are prices necessary for companies to bring up a profit and stay in business. Did you read the thread of the price of a cow vs the price of a picanha on your table?
...though as long as we are on this tack would be wonderful for you to clearly define near and perfect....as opposed to say, real, as in the real world... Near perfect=Not perfect.Perfect=Just like music, Real music.
JLM, the slick approach, which eliminates bass EQ and results in non-resonant room behavior below the Schroeder frequency is explained in Adrian Celestinos doctoral thesis which can be found at this link http://vbn.aau.dk/files/12831869/AC-phd.pdfSo far, no megabuck speaker system I am aware of, has yet been sold with another source bass energy ie. Sub or Subs, to be located against the rear wall of the listening room. This failure to address the inherent problems that stem from system induced resonant behavior in the bass frequencies seems to be an incredibly huge oversight on the part of "Mega Price Loudspeaker manufacturers". Literally hundreds of thousands of dollars spent on a set of loudspeakers and you have purchased the same problem you could have had for $1000. Scotty
In the 90years I read in the late Audio mag(paper) that the loudspeaker industry profit margins were about 100% the cost price, and the dealer margin were also the same(100%).
Iam against these high profit margins, with the world wide economy in low rate the new rule is chinese prices, if you want sell the product.
....do keep in mind that the set defined by the term not perfect also includes the term imperfect...so you are putting forth an argument that is based on imperfect drivers...wouldn't be how I would frame a position but if think that is cool so be it...so good luck with that...Cheersblutto
If making expensive speakers is SO EASY, why have I NEVER heard a decent pair of DIY speakers?
