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Industry Circles => Salk Signature Sound => Topic started by: Rob Babcock on 24 Dec 2005, 07:56 am
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Sheesh, each time I think I'm getting close to deciding what to try, Jim announces a new one! :lol: Any info coming up on the new Veracity you've got in the works, Jim? :)
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Rob -
Sheesh, each time I think I'm getting close to deciding what to try, Jim announces a new one! :lol: Any info coming up on the new Veracity you've got in the works, Jim? :)
Still working on it. But we're getting closer.
Dennis Murphy is currently on vacation, but will resume work on the crossover as soon as he returns.
I would suspect I will have something to announce by mid-January.
- Jim
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Geez, is it mid-Jan yet? :lol:
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Geez, is it mid-Jan yet? :lol:
Nope. And I'm still working on them. I don't want to put anything less than my best effort into those cabinets.
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Yeah, it was a shameless bump! :P But I'm awfully anxious to get some news... :)
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Yeah, it was a shameless bump! :P But I'm awfully anxious to get some news... :)
So is Jim. I've been driving him a little wacko with this one MTM's are tricky, and I've also had to decide exactly which model of which ribbon tweeter to use. But, thanks to a bad case of the flu, I pretty much did nothing other than sleep and work on this project for the past couple of days. Now Jim will have to build a prototype cabinet at his end and see whether he likes what I've done. So far it sounds good to me.
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Rob, You think you're anxious.
Truthfully, I haven't been.
I've tried to put these out of my mind and just wait for updates.
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In the last two or three months of the year I worked 60- 75 hours a week, and I didn't have much time to even listen to music, much less do any upgrades. So now that my crazy season is over, I'm looking to get back to my main hobby- spamming AC! :lol: Seriously, I'll probably buy five new speakers sometime between now and, say, July. I'd been thinking it might be floorstanding HT-1s, but every time I get close to deciding I hear about something new!
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Question for Jim and Dennis:
I'm going to be driving these guys with a BAT VK6200 configured with 3 amp modules.
What's your take(s) on this pairing?
FWIW, the 6200 is a true monoblock design.
Someone told me that the modules are sourced by ATI to BAT's specs.
I can tell you that the modules are built like the proverbial brick outhouse.
Plus for other prospective customers, what would be your general amplifier parameters for getting the most out of this configuration.
And forgive me, but one last question, why am I thinking about these things on a Friday night :?
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Sparks -
Dennis may have a different take on it, but from my perspective, you will not have any trouble driving them with your amps. It sounds like a perfect match with plenty of headroom.
- Jim
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Sparks -
Dennis may have a different take on it, but from my perspective, you will not have any trouble driving them with your amps. It sounds like a perfect match with plenty of headroom.
- Jim
Just about any amp capable of working into a 4 ohm load should work. The impedance never falls below 4 ohms in the bass and midrange, so the MTM does not present a difficult load. (If you want to see what a problem looks like in this area, check out the latest Stereophile's review of a mega-buck Genesis 3-way.)
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Thanks guys.
Yeah I saw the graph on the Genesis, yikes.
1.4 ohms at 7.8khz and below 2 ohms in the lower midrange.
No tubes for that beast.
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Alright, it's the end of the month now. Can we get some more news! :P
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Rob -
Things always take longer than anticipated. So far I have cut panels for three sealed versions of this speaker and will glue them up this coming week.
Dennis is finished with the crossover design.
So as soon as I finish the cabinets, I will be assembling the first pairs. Since the client has requested painted cabinets, they will be done sooner than if they were veneered and finished.
So it won't be that long. I will post pics as soon as they are completed.
- Jim
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Cool. I'm anxious to see what they look like.
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Cool. I'm anxious to see what they look like.
Me too :D
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sparks -
Cool. I'm anxious to see what they look like.
Me too :D
Well, the first speakers I'm building will be painted black and are stand-mounted sealed versions. So there won't be that much to look at. The only thing unusual about them is I plan to use the black-coned version of the regular W18. So these will be "stealth" speakers.
- Jim
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Jim,
I like the Stealth moniker.
I know that to most they will look unremarkable compared to your usual artistry.
I hoping there will be a "form follows function" look about them.
And I hope the sound is what will make then remarkable.
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I will be sure to follow up with some ported floor-standers that will be more striking visually.
- Jim
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:peek: :peek: :peek: :peek: :peek:
:jester: Just checking! :lol:
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:peek: :peek: :peek: :peek: :peek:
:jester: Just checking! :lol:
Rob....You need to buy your own pair.......... :wink:
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Rob -
:peek: :peek: :peek: :peek: :peek:
I started applying finish today and would expect to be ready to install crossovers and drivers by the end of next week. Pics will be posted (along with my impressions) as soon as this version is done.
I will start work shortly on a ported pair as well - just as soon as the owner-to-be selects his woods/veneers.
- Jim
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Rob....You need to buy your own pair.......... :wink:
With three months lead time, I better see all the models before I decide!
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Rob....You need to buy your own pair.......... :wink:
With three months lead time, I better see all the models before I decide!
Go for the HT3....thats a speaker you buy once, and have forever... 8)
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Rob....You need to buy your own pair.......... :wink:
With three months lead time, I better see all the models before I decide!
I assure you that you won't be disappointed.
George
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Jim,
I am curious what are the dimension and spec of this new model. Thanks.
-Howard
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Jim,
I am curious what are the dimension and spec of this new model. Thanks.
-Howard
That, and even some snaps of the unveneered prototype would be cool. I'm just interested in getting a rough idea in my mind of what they'll be like.
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You are tenacious Rob!
George
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I was worried that Jim forgot. :lol:
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Jim,
I am curious what are the dimension and spec of this new model. Thanks.
-Howard
There will be two versions. The first (which will probably be ready to shoot photos of next week) will be a stand-mounted, sealed version of the HT2. It will be 22" tall, 9" wide and 14" deep. It will feature two black-coned W18's and an LCY tweeter (the client requested black cones for his home theater application and wanted black painted cabinets - so that's what they'll be).
This version requires the use of a subwoofer as bass response in the sealed cabinet falls of rather early. You would want to cross at about 80Hz.
These could also be done as a floor-standing speaker, although the lower half would be sealed off since the extra cabinet volume is not required.
The second version of the HT2's will be ported. These will be roughly 42" tall, 9" wide and 14" deep. These will not require a sub (although you may like to use one).
Both speakers are classic MTM designs with the tweeter positioned between the two midwoofers.
I hope this helps.
- Jim
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Roughly what will the price be? And performance wise how do they compare with the rest of the Veracity line?
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Rob,
Take a road trip and knock on Jim'a door!! Then you will be the first to know, and report back to us :!:
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That would be quite a road trip! I wonder if my boss would mind if I was gone for a week. :lol:
Or is that the polite way to tell me to stop with the &%$@# question? :oops:
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Hey,
I want you to know that my wife, 3 year old and my 2 week old did a road trip from Columbus to Port Angeles down to SanFran then back to Columbus. We stopped thru your home town on that trek!!!
If my 2 week old could do it, you should have the gonads!...his were barely showing at that point :wink:
On that trek, I went and checked out speakers in El Sobrante! More than 1/2 way across the continental US for a listen :roll:
And yes this was a little ribbing, but not serious. I know exactly how you feel :!:
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Hello Jim,
Thanks for the dimension. The sealed version crosses at 80hz. What the (projected) frequncy response and nomial impedence for the ported version? Since it is MTM, I assume perhaps it still requires a subwoofer for the lowest octaves.
Thanks,
-Howard
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[Thanks for the dimension. The sealed version crosses at 80hz. What the (projected) frequncy response and nomial impedence for the ported version? Since it is MTM, I assume perhaps it still requires a subwoofer for the lowest octaves.
The impedance is around 5 ohms for the ported It shouldn't be a problem. My tone sweeps help up pretty firmly to around 40 Hz, with a smooth roll-off below that. It won't shake the room, but there is a firm foundation. With a sub, the sound should be excpetionally clean given the high quality of the drivers and the dual woofers. But I haven't run it with a sub.