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Title: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: TF1216 on 15 Feb 2018, 05:25 pm
Hello Everyone,

We would like to start a tour for the AC iPurifier.  Any interested parties out there to give the device a try?

Each participant would receive 2 units for 2 weeks to see how they may help clean up your A/C power.

https://ifi-audio.com/portfolio-view/accessory-ac-ipurifier/
Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: genjamon on 15 Feb 2018, 06:08 pm
I'm interested.  I have several High Fidelity MC-0.5 devices I can compare to. 
Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: SFDude on 15 Feb 2018, 06:09 pm
Would like to get in on this. Will be really going in skeptical that this will improve anything but open to experiencing for myself.

-dave
Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: Flyin_V on 15 Feb 2018, 09:50 pm
I'd be interested in trying them. I, too, am a bit skeptical but always welcome cost effective system improvements.

Thanks for the tour.

Lary
Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: TJHUB on 16 Feb 2018, 12:15 am
I am very interested as well.  It would be very valuable to compare 1 vs 2 in my setup before purchasing.
Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: jboiler76 on 16 Feb 2018, 12:59 am
I'd be interested in trying them.

Thanks,

Jay
Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: Magnatest on 16 Feb 2018, 01:08 am
I'd also be interested in trying them.

Thanks,

Gregg
Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: TF1216 on 16 Feb 2018, 02:56 am
Awesome.  If you all wouldn't mind please PM with your addresses and I will set the tour up.  The units will go out next week.
Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: ExileSt on 16 Feb 2018, 03:35 am
I'd be interested in trying as well.  A couple months ago I was having noise issues and posted in the Power Conditioning circle, looking for recommendations.  Ended up buying an Isobar and being disappointed enough that I returned it.

Will PM you, Tyler, and see if I'm not too late.
Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: TF1216 on 17 Feb 2018, 03:30 am
Thank you all for showing interest in the AC iPurifier.  There are 5 folks on the list so far and there is room for more. 

The units will ship in the order below.  Feel free to PM if the timing doesn't work or to just chat.  I will reach out via PM to folks as things move along.  Cheers!
Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: mikeeastman on 17 Feb 2018, 02:22 pm
I would like to get on the tour.
Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: WireNut on 17 Feb 2018, 03:53 pm
I would definitely like to be on this tour. Power conditioning is what my system lacks. Thanks.
Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: Mike B. on 17 Feb 2018, 04:52 pm
I am also interested. Probably try it with my home theater. The big two channel rig has multiple filters already in place.
Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: TF1216 on 18 Feb 2018, 12:32 am
I am also interested. Probably try it with my home theater. The big two channel rig has multiple filters already in place.

Hi Mike,

PM with your details please so I can get you on the list.
Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: TF1216 on 18 Feb 2018, 12:33 am
Here is the updated order fellas.  Thank you so much, again, for having interest in trying this product. 

Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: TF1216 on 28 Feb 2018, 04:55 pm
We are underway.   :wink:
Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: TJHUB on 28 Feb 2018, 10:50 pm
We are underway.   :wink:

Awesome!  :thumb:
Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: OzarkTom on 13 Mar 2018, 04:01 am
Thank you IFI Tyler, AMR, and Ifi for this tour.

I have griped and complained about my AC in this small rural town for the last 35 years. Ever since I have been here, my AC, daytime listening always resulted in listener fatigue if I played my system loud before 10pm. Many times it did not play smooth until after midnight.  Enter the AC Purifier.

This is an easy tweak, just plug it in. I first plugged one in the wall and the sound was much smoother, easier to listen to. I had to try my lousy recording of the Best of Abba and was shocked, best i had heard that recording. This was the first week, I had decided to not try the other. For $99, this was the best tweek that I have ever tried.

But to look at that unopened box, it got the best of me. I plugged it in my Furutech strip in the digital section and voila. The rest of my AC hash completely disappeared. I decided to really crank it up, no fatigue. Jazz, rock, pop, everything sounded better, even Diana Krall. In the past when I played the smaller chip amps, they always sounded better on battery than AC. I knew why GR Research always showed up with an all battery system at the audio shows. The AC in those hotels were crap, too many systems playing.

For those here that read the TAS back in the 80's might remember Enid Lumley talking about all the bad AC. HP even started talking about using batteries for better SQ.

So for me, this tour was a no brainer, I have two on order. After I unplugged them, I re-listened and the fatigue came back, I quickly had to turn the volume down. If you have perfect AC, I doubt if these will help. If not on this tour, buy two from Music Direct with their 60 day return policy. With all the bad AC at these audio shows, You might see the companies plugging these in their room for better SQ.

Definitely, 5 stars.

System: DAC Cherry mono amps
IFI Ican
Burson Pro + cables
Sony Hap-Z1ES
Zelleton Emotions and Audio Nirvana 8" full range speakers
Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: A_shah on 13 Mar 2018, 06:30 am
Hello Everyone,

We would like to start a tour for the AC iPurifier.  Any interested parties out there to give the device a try?

Each participant would receive 2 units for 2 weeks to see how they may help clean up your A/C power.

https://ifi-audio.com/portfolio-view/accessory-ac-ipurifier/


I am interested  if any slots are available.
Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: MttBsh on 13 Mar 2018, 06:13 pm
I too would like to try these out, please advise if I can join the tour, thanks.
Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: rollo on 13 Mar 2018, 06:25 pm
  After reading the info on site this device appears to be a no-brainer. Being an iFi product how could one go wrong. Buy many. Not a dealer.


charles
Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: TJHUB on 13 Mar 2018, 06:58 pm
  After reading the info on site this device appears to be a no-brainer. Being an iFi product how could one go wrong. Buy many. Not a dealer.


charles

I think I’m missing something.  Can you explain this statement?
Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: SFDude on 13 Mar 2018, 09:03 pm
OzarkTom, can you tell me if you plugged two of these into one strip vs. one and see if there were compounded improvements? The configurations suggest you can even isolate different pieces of equipment by were you are inserting in a power strip (ie. separating digital equipment from non-digital, etc).

Curious to see what different people's configurations are on using these!

Thanks.

-dave
Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: OzarkTom on 13 Mar 2018, 10:45 pm
OzarkTom, can you tell me if you plugged two of these into one strip vs. one and see if there were compounded improvements? The configurations suggest you can even isolate different pieces of equipment by were you are inserting in a power strip (ie. separating digital equipment from non-digital, etc).

Curious to see what different people's configurations are on using these!

Thanks.

-dave

Dave, one in  the wall, one in the power strip. I will try two in the power strip when my order gets here. I might buy a third one but I doubt if the Ican needs one.
Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: deadhead on 13 Mar 2018, 11:25 pm
I have some transformer hum I believe is coming from noise in the line.  Do you think this will help?
Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: OzarkTom on 14 Mar 2018, 12:07 am
I have some transformer hum I believe is coming from noise in the line.  Do you think this will help?

No answer on this one, IFI Tyler?
Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: TF1216 on 26 Mar 2018, 05:12 am
No answer on this one, IFI Tyler?

Sorry, I missed this one.  I think the AC iPurifier will help.  deadhead, interested in jumping in on the tour?
Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: mikeeastman on 27 Mar 2018, 12:13 am
Thanks Tyler for the chance to try out the iFi Purifiers.

 First off my situation is different as I live off the grid. I have two dedicated circuits for my system, wired direct to my inverter with upgraded breakers in the sub panel, as best as I can tell I have pretty clean power.

My system is dead quiet, with a blank track playing and vol set to max and with my ear on the tweeter dead quiet.

 I’ve tied several devices over the last couple of years to clean up power and they all had no effect. The Purifiers were no different, I tried them in all the suggested places and could hear no difference in my system.

Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: RDavidson on 27 Mar 2018, 01:54 am
As it seems you already have very clean power to begin with, I would be very surprised or concerned if you DID notice a perceivable difference. Maybe I don't understand your goal or perhaps you're expecting something from these products that they cannot provide? Appreciate the test and feedback nonetheless. :thumb:
Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: mikeeastman on 27 Mar 2018, 02:42 am
Just trying to verify that I there isn't something I don't know about my power that I might be able to improve. I find it a little hard to believe that my inverters power can't be improved upon, I just don't know how or where to look.

 I informed Tyler about my situation first and we both though, it's my dime so why not give it a shot.
Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: RDavidson on 27 Mar 2018, 03:09 am
Ah. OK. The added context definitely helps make sense of your earlier review. Thanks!
Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: TF1216 on 27 Mar 2018, 03:15 am
Always worth a shot  Wink2
Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: TF1216 on 12 Apr 2018, 02:06 am
I'm interested.  I have several High Fidelity MC-0.5 devices I can compare to.

Hi Ben,

Would you like to try the two AC iPurifiers next? They are ready to ship.

-Tyler
Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: genjamon on 12 Apr 2018, 03:51 am
Sure Tyler. Now is the time for me. Any longer, and I might not be able to participate after all due to new child arriving.
Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: Magnatest on 15 Apr 2018, 01:36 pm


Tyler,

  Thank you for the opportunity to audition the iFi AC iPurifers. I wouldn’t have thought about devices such as this, without the tour.

  My system is not on a dedicated circuit. I utilize 6 outlets spread along the wall and had to move power cables around to make outlets
available for the AC iPurifiers. I have a Belkin outlet strip that I use to power non-music peripherals that are plugged into the same circuit.

I never thought that I had noisy power and that my system sounds really good, but I’m always willing to try something for an improvement.
I plugged 1 of the iPurifiers into the outlet closest to the breaker box and didn’t listen for a day. After listening for a while, I settled on 2 songs
that I thought sounded different and better; "Ode to Billy Joe” by Patricia Barber and “You Can Bring Me Flowers” by Ray LaMontagne. I used
these as my reference songs.

"Ode to Billy Joe” – I was really impressed with the improvement in clarity of the upright bass; tighter and cleaner.  The soundstage was
improved with Patricia’s vocals having a better sense of presence. The snapping of the fingers became more cohesive and their placement
moved slightly out and closer to me.

“You Can Bring Me Flowers”  – I’ve always liked this song. Instrument separation was improved with better clarity. Ray’s vocals improved
similar to Patricia’s.

  I continued listening for over a week and occasionally came back to my 2 reference songs. During that time, I moved the iPurifier to the
Belkin power strip. I couldn’t tell whether it was plugged in or not. It immediately went back to the outlet where I had it. I added the second
iPurifier  by pugging it in an outlet at the far end of the wall. So, I had an iPurifier at the beginning of the power chain and one at the end.
Adding the second iPurifier did not make nearly as much a difference as adding the 1st, but everything that I sensed with the 1st one was
slightly better.

  As with many things audio, changes that seem to make an initial improvement becomes “normal”. It’s not until the change is reversed that
the change is appreciated again. As soon as I removed the iPurifiers and listened, I decided I needed them. I ordered 2 of them and have
them installed. For the price, these are a must for my system.


System:
Source -   CAT -> iFi iPurifier2 -> XMOS 192kHz USB to SPDIF converter  -> Eastern Electric Minimax DAC Plus

Source Power Supply -   HDPLEX 100W linear power supply
( The variable output powers both the CAT hard drive and the XMOS converter )

Preamp -   Odyssey Candela

Amplifiers -   Odyssey Khartago monoamps

Speakers -   Salk Soundscape 8’s.








Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: iFi Vicky on 16 Apr 2018, 09:12 pm
Hey there - thanks for your review. Glad you saw the improvement the AC iPurifier makes in a system. True what you say about noticing the difference when you take them out - as we say the difference is there to be heard! Thanks again.  :D
Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: liffy99 on 20 May 2018, 10:53 am
Only just seen this about the ‘tour’. Is it too late to be ibcluded ?
I wouldn’t say I have noticed specific noise issues with my supply other than a ) we often get short term power cuts lasting a few seconds here in rural Somerset and b) my system always sounds better late in the evening.
All my sources and amplification are in the digital domain with a combination of SMPS and traditional power supplies. Kit is fed from two 7 way power strips (4 vacant sockets).
Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: Speedskater on 20 May 2018, 01:05 pm
I have some transformer hum I believe is coming from noise in the line.  Do you think this will help?
Sorry about being two months late.
Most transformer hum is caused by:
a] high AC line voltage
b] loose mechanical parts in or near the transformer
c] low frequency asymmetry in the AC power current waveform
Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: OzarkTom on 20 May 2018, 06:18 pm
Only just seen this about the ‘tour’. Is it too late to be ibcluded ?
I wouldn’t say I have noticed specific noise issues with my supply other than a ) we often get short term power cuts lasting a few seconds here in rural Somerset and b) my system always sounds better late in the evening.
All my sources and amplification are in the digital domain with a combination of SMPS and traditional power supplies. Kit is fed from two 7 way power strips (4 vacant sockets).

If your system sounds better in the evening, these would be worth trying.
Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: Mike B. on 9 Jul 2018, 04:26 pm
I have finished my evaluation of the two AC iPurifiers. I have several systems in my home. The big rig has dedicated circuits and lots of AC filtering, so I chose two other locations with little or no filtering.
I have a modest home theater with a 65" 4K screen, one year old Sony 7.2 channel receiver, Oppo 203 blu-ray player, and a Pioneer Elite tuner capable of accessing internet radio stations. I noticed a significant improvement here. Sound was more dynamic with a bit more definition. Picture was noticeably improved. Sharper images and better sound.
I also tried one unit on a 50" plasma 1080p set with a 5.1 channel receiver. The same improvements were noted. I would call these units a great bang for the buck. I am going to purchase two of the units.
Thanks to the iFi team for putting on this tour.
Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: TF1216 on 24 Sep 2018, 06:26 pm
Any more comments out there about this guy?!  :popcorn:
Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: SFDude on 24 Sep 2018, 08:22 pm
Still waiting to see if I'm still on the Tour or it's lost for me.
Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: rollo on 24 Sep 2018, 08:59 pm
I think I’m missing something.  Can you explain this statement?


   What are you missing ?? I own them, use them and like the company.


charles
Title: Re: AC iPurifier Tour
Post by: carusoracer on 25 Sep 2018, 03:09 am
Any more comments out there about this guy?!  :popcorn:

I would like to  join the tour if still available?

Thanks!