[jbracing17]

Thanks for the response.  I was trying to do something unique

[Ron]

   Over the past 18 months I have built a number of X-LS Encores for myself and others. I have found them to be truly excellent sounding speakers, and a real bargin at the low price that Danny is asking for the kits. With the optional performance upgrade mods ( Sonicap capacitors, Mills resistors, and No-Rez cabinet damping treatment) their performance can be raised to a higher level which in my opinion and the opinion of others is worth the additional cost. The performance level of the X-LS Encores as well as the other AV123 models is close to the GR Research N series speakers, but has a somewhat softer quality and is not quite as detailed on the high end as the Neo 3 PDR tweeter, but close.

 I enjoy building these speakers as well as other GR Research speakers from parts kits for myself and others. If you are interested in a pair of X-LS Encores or X-CS Encores but don't have the time or tools necessaary to build them yourself, I would be glad to quote a price to build them for you. Just send me
a PM.

Ron

[Phoon694]

Looks like this is an older thread, but thought I'd check anyway to see if the kits are still available.  If so, I'll also need suggestions on enclosures.  My carpentry skills are very limited, as are the tools I have access to.  However, I have a neighbor that can probably help in that area.

Thanks!!!

[Danny Richie]

Looks like this is an older thread, but thought I'd check anyway to see if the kits are still available.  If so, I'll also need suggestions on enclosures.  My carpentry skills are very limited, as are the tools I have access to.  However, I have a neighbor that can probably help in that area.

Thanks!!!

Welcome to AC.

There are tons of these kits still available.

Some cabinets are available for X-LS and X-LS Encore.

There are guys here that can build cabinets for you as well.

[Oscillate]

Danny

If I purchased a X-MTM kit and then later decided to build 'only' a
pair of X-CS ...would that be Ok? Or is the crossover design different
between the X-MTM and the X-CS?  Thanks

[Danny Richie]

Danny

If I purchased a X-MTM kit and then later decided to build 'only' a
pair of X-CS ...would that be Ok? Or is the crossover design different
between the X-MTM and the X-CS?  Thanks

Those two are the same speaker. Just the box design is different.

[Oscillate]

I will soon be ordering 3 X-CS Encore kits for the L/C/R channels of a
DIY'ish 5.1 X-Series home theater. A couple of questions about the X-CS
Encore enclosure plans please...

The cut-out dimensions for the Encore tweeter and the mid-bass driver are
the exactly the same as those in the X-Omni plans. Does the X-CS Encore use
the same drivers? ...wondering because then I can use the X-Omni drivers to
test fit the baffle cut-outs for the X-CS Encores until I order the kits.

I understand that the X-CS Encore was designed to be used as a center channel.
If using them as L/R mains, does the Encore tweeter need to be rotated 90 degrees
(ie. the + & - terminals toward the bottom mid-bass driver)?


"Center the binding post cup in the center of the back panel

The are no cut-out measurements for this in the X-CS plans ...does the X-CS
Encore use the same binding post cup as the X-Omni?

Thanks

[Danny Richie]

The cut-out dimensions for the Encore tweeter and the mid-bass driver are
the exactly the same as those in the X-Omni plans. Does the X-CS Encore use
the same drivers?

The tweeter is the same and the woofer frames are the same. Different woofers though.

...wondering because then I can use the X-Omni drivers to
test fit the baffle cut-outs for the X-CS Encores until I order the kits.

Yes you can use them to size the holes.

I understand that the X-CS Encore was designed to be used as a center channel.
If using them as L/R mains, does the Encore tweeter need to be rotated 90 degrees
(ie. the + & - terminals toward the bottom mid-bass driver)?

It is a dome tweeter with four bolt pattern. It is the same every way that you turn it.

"Center the binding post cup in the center of the back panel

The are no cut-out measurements for this in the X-CS plans ...does the X-CS
Encore use the same binding post cup as the X-Omni?

It is the same binding posts that all of the series kits share.

[alphaiii]

Hi Danny,

So I gathered from this thread that the X-LS Encore needs 0.5 cu ft. sealed, and the A/V-1 would need only about 0.25 cu ft. sealed.  Can you tell me where the bass would start rolling off for these in sealed cabinets? Which performs better in a sealed box?

Also, I checked out the measurements of the X-LS (Ninja upgraded) in the link that you posted:
http://www.stereomojo.com/Small%20Speaker%20Shootout%202007/StereomojoSmallSpekerShootout2007MeasurementsPart2.htm

It looks like the vertical dispersion of the X-LS is very good out to 30 degrees. Would it be suitable to use this speaker on its side as a center channel?  The X-CS is just too darn big. 

[Danny Richie]

The X-LS will have better low end extension in a sealed box. The A/V-1 really needs a ported box.

The X-LS could be used on its side if needed.

You might check the size of the A/V-3S. It might work well for you. http://gr-research.com/av-3s.aspx

[alphaiii]

The X-LS will have better low end extension in a sealed box. The A/V-1 really needs a ported box.

The X-LS could be used on its side if needed.

You might check the size of the A/V-3S. It might work well for you. http://gr-research.com/av-3s.aspx

Thanks Danny. 

Rough idea on the F3 for a sealed X-LS Encore?

Do you think the A/V-3S would match well sonically?

[Danny Richie]

Rough idea on the F3 for a sealed X-LS Encore?

By the numbers mid 70's. In room average is mid to low 60's.

Do you think the A/V-3S would match well sonically?

Yes, real well.

[Ron]

Danny,

   Would you mind posting a link to the cabinet plans for the small floor standing X-SLS cabinets?

Thanks,
Ron

[Danny Richie]

Danny,

   Would you mind posting a link to the cabinet plans for the small floor standing X-SLS cabinets?

Thanks,
Ron

Encore version: http://gr-research.com/pdf/X-SLS%20box.pdf

Classic version: http://gr-research.com/pdf/X-SLS%20Classic.pdf

[Ron]

 Thanks Danny for posting the X-SLS Encore and Classic cabinet drawings. !

Ron

[alphaiii]

OK Danny, another question...

Would these knockdown cabinets work OK for the X-SLS with just a little modding to hit the right internal volume?
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=300-7066

I know they're a little short, but that could be solved with a simple riser of some sort.

[Danny Richie]

OK Danny, another question...

Would these knockdown cabinets work OK for the X-SLS with just a little modding to hit the right internal volume?
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=300-7066

I know they're a little short, but that could be solved with a simple riser of some sort.

They are a little on the thin side and the woofer frames will be right out to the edge, but I think those could be made to work.

[FrontierKodiak]

Good day! I'm guessing that not too much has changed in the last two months and you still have some XL-S Encores available? I plan on using these in a sort of Hi-Fi "boombox" that I'm building, and I'm wondering if I needed to add some baffle step correction to the crossover if I were mounting these next to each other with a  additional 3 1/4" surface between the two cabinets (which is for the battery, amp bluetooth receiver, those sorts of things)?



Thanks!

[Danny Richie]

Good day! I'm guessing that not too much has changed in the last two months and you still have some XL-S Encores available? I plan on using these in a sort of Hi-Fi "boombox" that I'm building, and I'm wondering if I needed to add some baffle step correction to the crossover if I were mounting these next to each other with a  additional 3 1/4" surface between the two cabinets (which is for the battery, amp bluetooth receiver, those sorts of things)?

Thanks!

There are plenty of these left.

No change will be needed to the crossovers.

I would advise trying not to add too much additional surface area around the tweeters.

[Danny Richie]

The X-LS Classic kit and X-SLS Classic kit can now be ordered on line: http://gr-research.com/x-lsclassickit.aspx