[JDUBS]

What are the specs on the A->D conversion for the Crown amp?  Can you feed it a digital signal directly so as to avoid the A->D and then D->A?

-Jim

[jtwrace]

I recently heard the Manhattan playing DSD files. Sublime.............

Im sure the Brooklyn is equally as impressive. 

I went back and fourth between the two and didn't hear $3k+ worth of happiness there. 

[jtwrace]

What are the specs on the A->D conversion for the Crown amp?  Can you feed it a digital signal directly so as to avoid the A->D and then D->A?

-Jim

As far as I know, you can't do that. 

[NavyDoc]

What are the specs on the A->D conversion for the Crown amp?  Can you feed it a digital signal directly so as to avoid the A->D and then D->A?

-Jim

You can with the Crown iTech-HD amps.

[jtwrace]

You can with the Crown iTech-HD amps.

Right.  FWIW, the two top engineers at JBL recommended the DCi.  The one uses DCi on his personal system with M2's and obviously he can have anything he wants.  I'll also add that after my specific amp questions there was no doubt that the DCi was the way to go unless I was into spending more money (which I was more than willing to do) that was unnecessary.  Also important to note that JBL wouldn't go through the process of tuning files for different amps if it wasn't sufficient. The way they do it is quite resourceful so they wouldn't waste their time if it didn't meet specs.

[richidoo]

Thanks Anand, but I'm not quite ready to chug the coolaid yet. 

[jtwrace]

Thanks Anand, but I'm not quite ready to chug the coolaid yet. 

That's fine.  Happy cutting and sanding!  It's what you enjoy!   

Obviously I don't and strongly believe in a proper WG/CD design.   

[richidoo]

Oh, I know for sure they're gonna be awesome. Just poking a little fun with Anand's salesmanship.   And he may well prevail in the end as my DIY speaker days are numbered. I can't wait to hear them!

[sonicboom]

As far as I know, you can't do that.

Do the DCi amps have the required DSP capability to do what's needed in driving the M2's, or will you be using the BSS Soundweb London processor feeding the DCi amps?

[jtwrace]

Do the DCi amps have the required DSP capability to do what's needed in driving the M2's, or will you be using the BSS Soundweb London processor feeding the DCi amps?

Yes, all built in to the DCi 4/1250n

[goskers]

Do the DCi amps have the required DSP capability to do what's needed in driving the M2's, or will you be using the BSS Soundweb London processor feeding the DCi amps?

The DCi amps have all of the capability and more.  Even after the stock tuning for the M2 or 7 series you are allowed additional EQ capabilities to deal with some room anomalies.

[JDUBS]

IMO, a different league as one would expect.

Why would this be expected?  They use the same drivers, right? 

-Jim

[Russell Dawkins]

IMO, a different league as one would expect.

Why would one expect that?

Here's a Polish review of the 4367 for yet another perspective:
http://highfidelity.pl/@main-622&lang=en

[JohnR]

Passive crossover / compare the measurements.

[jtwrace]

Why would this be expected?  They use the same drivers, right? 

-Jim

Same drivers, yes.  Different crossover and waveguide. 

[Russell Dawkins]

Same drivers, yes.  Different crossover and waveguide.

Did you get the opportunity to hear them side by side, perchance?

[jtwrace]

Did you get the opportunity to hear them side by side, perchance?

I didn't but week before the Harman trip and week after the Harman trip. I was able to listen to them in different systems and different rooms.  If the 4367 was subjectively better I would've purchased given how much easier it would have been to integrate.   The reality is that they're not so the M2 was the best choice for me.

[Russell Dawkins]

I didn't but week before the Harman trip and week after the Harman trip. I was able to listen to them in different systems and different rooms.  If the 4367 was subjectively better I would've purchased given how much easier it would have been to integrate.   The reality is that they're not so the M2 was the best choice for me.

Thanks. Sometimes better is better and it's obvious without a direct comparison. I experienced that when I auditioned my K+H o300s in isolation and an unfamiliar acoustic back in 2010. I didn't need to compare them directly with the speakers I was then using for studio monitors; it was immediately apparent that they matched reality better.

[lowtech]

At the end of the day we know that us buying a couple pairs of loudspeakers which are admittedly expensive to us really doesn't move the bottom line for them.

Don't sell yourself short.  Look what your efforts did for Earl Geddes.

[jtwrace]

Don't sell yourself short.  Look what your efforts did for Earl Geddes.

Yeah, it pushed him to now be a stained glass artist.