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Vigore
« on: 29 May 2018, 10:26 pm »


 A new 8" 3-way design with SB Acoustics, Satori, and Scan-Speak drivers.

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« Reply #1 on: 29 May 2018, 11:19 pm »
Rick,

Thank you for posting this photo.

What are the cabinet dimensions? How much does each speaker weigh?

Oh, and what are the specs?  :)

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Re: Vigore
« Reply #2 on: 29 May 2018, 11:22 pm »
Is that a plastic laminate veneer?  Looks like an bleached Zebrawood.  Nice!

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« Reply #3 on: 29 May 2018, 11:47 pm »
Is that a plastic laminate veneer?  Looks like an bleached Zebrawood.  Nice!

No it's real walnut veneer with a gray dye applied.

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« Reply #4 on: 30 May 2018, 12:52 am »
They look awesome Rick!

I can't wait to have them in my system!!

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« Reply #5 on: 30 May 2018, 12:58 am »
Rick,

Thank you for posting this photo.

What are the cabinet dimensions? How much does each speaker weigh?

Oh, and what are the specs?  :)

21" x 10 3/4" x 13" (HxWxD)

I don't have a weight total yet as I am starting soon on the crossover design. The specs are partially yet to be determined, but here's the bass tuning which is -3dB @35hz.



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Re: Vigore
« Reply #6 on: 30 May 2018, 05:30 pm »
Awesome, I was hoping it would come with the 8 inch driver. What would be the cost in base finish ? thank you.

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« Reply #7 on: 30 May 2018, 06:06 pm »
Add me to the list of people interested in this design. The Ceramica would also be a possible choice for me. When you get these finished it would be interesting to hear your take on the differences in the sound of the two models. For my application I think I need to go subwooferless, and use the speakers for movies as well as music. Based on the bass measurement, it appears that Vigore might suit my needs better.

Haven't heard the Be tweeter, and I guess part of the reason you are using it is to save real estate to have a smaller box, but I love the Raal 70x20 in my Grandeur's. Would the Vigor with the Raal tweeter of the Ceramica be possible?

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« Reply #8 on: 30 May 2018, 07:58 pm »
Awesome, I was hoping it would come with the 8 inch driver. What would be the cost in base finish ? thank you.

$2,700/pr. including shipping to the CUSA.

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« Reply #9 on: 30 May 2018, 08:11 pm »
Rick,

Are the cabinets sealed or ported?

If they are ported, can you offer a slot port in the front instead of a rear port?

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Re: Vigore
« Reply #10 on: 30 May 2018, 11:22 pm »
Add me to the list of people interested in this design. The Ceramica would also be a possible choice for me. When you get these finished it would be interesting to hear your take on the differences in the sound of the two models. For my application I think I need to go subwooferless, and use the speakers for movies as well as music. Based on the bass measurement, it appears that Vigore might suit my needs better.

Haven't heard the Be tweeter, and I guess part of the reason you are using it is to save real estate to have a smaller box, but I love the Raal 70x20 in my Grandeur's. Would the Vigor with the Raal tweeter of the Ceramica be possible?

Good to hear from you again. The 70-20XR is best with this mid. The 70-10D in the Ceramica won't cross low enough with the Satori which is why I used the 4" driver in that design (plus it's an amazing midrange for the cost). The Vigore's height could be increased to accommodate the 70-20XR.

The 8" does have greater bass extension; however, the dual 6.5" drivers in the Ceramica still perform well for movies.

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Re: Vigore
« Reply #11 on: 30 May 2018, 11:26 pm »
Rick,

Are the cabinets sealed or ported?

If they are ported, can you offer a slot port in the front instead of a rear port?

Michael

Rear ported. Sealed is possible but it raises the -3dB point to around 50hz. The port tuning is low and as long as you have some room from the rear wall this doesn't create a problem. No slotted port will be available.

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Re: Vigore
« Reply #12 on: 13 Jun 2018, 07:52 pm »
46 lbs. - it's a beast! Specifications will be posted soon. Enjoy them Nick!

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« Reply #13 on: 13 Jun 2018, 08:08 pm »
I'll say it's a beast. Do you have stands to hold it?

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« Reply #14 on: 13 Jun 2018, 10:23 pm »
Due to circumstances with my room layout, and also having a 20 month old daughter running around terrorizing the house, mine will be sitting on my A/V stand on Auralex MoPad XL monitor isolators. Right now I'm just breaking in a pair of DefTech AW6500 outdoor speakers that I'll be installing on the deck once the Vigore arrive to replace them.

If I move the system to a different room, or when my daughter gets a little older, I'd likely put them on something beefy like this

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Re: Vigore
« Reply #15 on: 14 Jun 2018, 02:37 am »
I'll say it's a beast. Do you have stands to hold it?

Sure, we can build custom stands or even make a floorstanding version.

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Re: Vigore
« Reply #16 on: 14 Jun 2018, 02:38 am »
Rick, can you comment on:

1. Which drivers were used. Others may be able to tell just by lookin' at 'em.....but I can't. Specifically, I was wondering if the tweeter was Be.
2. Efficiency measurement. Is this 87dB @ 4 ohms? Just a guess.....was I close?

Thanks, -dGB

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« Reply #17 on: 14 Jun 2018, 08:36 pm »
Sure, we can build custom stands or even make a floorstanding version.

We'll be talking..... I think the choice between stand mount and floorstanding for us will be down to cost difference once we decide on which veneer we like the best. If we end up with an expensive veneer, then we will probably go stand mount.  :wink:

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Re: Vigore
« Reply #18 on: 14 Jun 2018, 11:37 pm »
I'm probably getting way ahead of myself, but the wheels in my head are already turning on a

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tower version of these speakers if they work out the way I think they will.

They'd be as mains in a dedicated hybrid 2 channel/theater room that I'll be building in the next couple years in our unfinished basement. These bookshelf Vigore would eventually make for some extremely overkill surround l/r channels in a 5.1.4 atmos system (the room won't be big enough for 7.1.4 or 7.1.6 or whatever the latest and greatest is these days).
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Re: Vigore
« Reply #19 on: 15 Jun 2018, 02:55 am »
Rick, can you comment on:

1. Which drivers were used. Others may be able to tell just by lookin' at 'em.....but I can't. Specifically, I was wondering if the tweeter was Be.
2. Efficiency measurement. Is this 87dB @ 4 ohms? Just a guess.....was I close?

Thanks, -dGB

SB Acoustics 8" woofer, SB/Satori midrange, and Scan-Speak beryllium tweeter. 86dB sensitivity, 4.8 ohms nominal impedance, 3.8 ohms minimum.