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Title: What types of speakers/specs are good for electronic, dance, techno music?
Post by: bsleepy on 17 Dec 2019, 02:29 pm
Hey everyone,

Not sure if this is where I should be asking this question but I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations for speakers that like to play electronic, dance, techno style music? Most of the speaker reviews I have seen are geared towards classical, jazz, opera, etc. and I like listening to that music as well, but I have really been wanting to get a system that can really pump out the fast passed electronic music with a high level of clarity and depth. If there are certain speakers specs I should be looking for, or certain types of tweeters, speakers, sensitivity, etc. that go well with electronic music all and any help or recommendations would be greatly appreciated!

To help clarify things regarding my context:

My listening space is roughly 15' wide x 18' long and has about 14' ceilings. I would say i spend roughly 60% sitting in the sweet spot doing work, playing board games/poker, etc. and roughly 40% moving around or doing things outside the sweet spot while still playing music. I currently have an old set of Polk Audio Surround Sound speakers that have been passed down to me and have them in a 5.1 surround sound speaker set up but considering I don't do much home theater and movie playing I was thinking about switching to a 2.1 setup. The current subwoofer I have is the SVS SB-2000 which is a 12" 500w sub. All of this is currently connected to 5.1 Pioneer home theater receiver. I figure I will be passing most of this stuff down to one of my siblings (besides the SVS sub) and will start building a 2.1 system that fits my music profile from scratch.

Thanks!
Title: Re: What types of speakers/specs are good for electronic, dance, techno music?
Post by: WGH on 17 Dec 2019, 04:22 pm
You have a budget? The Von Schweikert Ultra 11 will throw a party in your room.

A smaller budget? Then if you want speakers that go big and loud with life size bass and you can't blow up? Go with Legacy.
https://www.legacyaudio.com/ (https://www.legacyaudio.com/)

No budget? Then go to Best Buy and pick up a Cerwin Vega or Klipsch.
Title: Re: What types of speakers/specs are good for electronic, dance, techno music?
Post by: witchdoctor on 17 Dec 2019, 05:36 pm
If you are trying to replicate the inside of a club I would think about using pro type active speakers from JBL, Yamaha or QSC. I listen to EDM in a 10.1 auro 3D immersive system through Paradigm Active speakers and you are IN the club :). I think it is VERY important to use height channels to really replicate the impact. Get down to a Guitar Center and try and audition some pro type speakers.

https://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-Powered-Monitor-XLR-Cables-Insolation/dp/B00K2ZEIEW?SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-d-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B00K2ZEIEW

https://www.amazon.com/QSC-K8-2-Active-Powered-Loudspeaker/dp/B06Y42XXH6/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=qsc+10&qid=1576604116&s=electronics&sr=1-2

https://www.amazon.com/JBL-306PMKII-Monitors-Controller-Isolation/dp/B07K2RH426/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=jbl+308&qid=1576604179&s=electronics&sr=1-3

Title: Re: What types of speakers/specs are good for electronic, dance, techno music?
Post by: bsleepy on 17 Dec 2019, 05:41 pm
Hi thanks for the response!

I don't personally know much about the Von Schweikert brand but after some quick looking around they have intrigued me. I also found a pair of VR-4 Gen 1 that are located near me and are priced within my budget. Not sure if these will produce the type of sound I am looking for considering they are not the Ultras that you suggested. Any idea if these would be worth looking at?
Title: Re: What types of speakers/specs are good for electronic, dance, techno music?
Post by: bsleepy on 17 Dec 2019, 05:43 pm
Thanks for the recommendations and information! Will definitely take a look!
Title: Re: What types of speakers/specs are good for electronic, dance, techno music?
Post by: richidoo on 17 Dec 2019, 05:51 pm
Loud bass with low distortion requires large bass drivers. This is not the current fashion. Audiophiles want narrow cabinets, focused on imaging and treble detail, and they don't want their wives to yell at them for playing stereo too loud while they watch Hallmark. So big speakers are like dinosaurs now. Used to be 12" woofer was standard on any decent stereo up until 1990. Physics have not changed. Big drivers sound better.

But big drivers are not just good for playing loud, it also makes more detail in the bass, and lets you play at softer volumes and still hear the bass with good detail. Small drivers' bass disappears at low volumes and has poor detail at high volume. Big drivers make SPL with less cone movement so the distortion is lower, means more detail and better tone.

+1 for Legacy. I have Focus SE and I find them to perform well, very loud and very soft, on all kinds of music. Very satisfying speakers.

Electronic music can benefit from active bass drivers, meaning the low pass crossover filter comes before the amp so the amp can be connected directly to the the bass drivers for best cone control and detail and slam for those EDM square wave bass lines, etc.  Focus XD version has active bass.
Title: Re: What types of speakers/specs are good for electronic, dance, techno music?
Post by: bsleepy on 17 Dec 2019, 05:58 pm
Hi thanks for the response! The information regarding the active bass drivers was very interesting and not something I knew could make a noticeable sound impact. I will have to look at the Focus series.

But I may not have explained myself thoroughly but I am definitely NOT trying to blow my face off with bass I rather am looking for speakers that can reproduce the depth, speed, and detail to electronic music. I am really looking for something that can immerse you in the sound and produces depth from all the layers commonly found in electronic music!

Thanks for all the responses this has been quite interesting!
Title: Re: What types of speakers/specs are good for electronic, dance, techno music?
Post by: Tyson on 17 Dec 2019, 05:59 pm
For electronic type music, I think speakers with large woofers and high efficiency is going to get you there.  My current favorites of this type of speaker is the Klipsch Forte III but there's several others that are good as well.  JTR audio is another good one.  So is the new re-launch of the classic JBL L100.  These will all give you that direct window into the music.  They also have a very exciting, punchy, get up and move type of sound.  And the are also not too bad on other types of music either.  :thumb:
Title: Re: What types of speakers/specs are good for electronic, dance, techno music?
Post by: Doublej on 17 Dec 2019, 06:42 pm
For electronic type music, I think speakers with large woofers and high efficiency is going to get you there.  My current favorites of this type of speaker is the Klipsch Forte III but there's several others that are good as well.  JTR audio is another good one.  So is the new re-launch of the classic JBL L100.  These will all give you that direct window into the music.  They also have a very exciting, punchy, get up and move type of sound.  And the are also not too bad on other types of music either.  :thumb:

I have never these three brands but I think they all meet this criteria. Pi Speakers, Tekton Design, and  Zu Audio.
Title: Re: What types of speakers/specs are good for electronic, dance, techno music?
Post by: WGH on 17 Dec 2019, 06:51 pm

I don't personally know much about the Von Schweikert brand but after some quick looking around they have intrigued me. I also found a pair of VR-4 Gen 1 that are located near me and are priced within my budget. Not sure if these will produce the type of sound I am looking for considering they are not the Ultras that you suggested. Any idea if these would be worth looking at?

The VR-4 Gen 1 will rock, go have a listen. The Ultra 11 is $295,000, 14 driver per side, 850 pound, 7' 6" tall behemoth with a frequency response of 10 Hz to 100,000 kHz and probably above your budget.

The amp also determines the quality of bass you get, generally speaking an affordable receiver just won't make the grade. What are your electronics?
An active speaker will give you the punch without upgrading the electronics and going with separate components.

If the new JBL L100 are anything like the old L100 (which I still use) the speaker will require at least 125 watts per channel to rock cleanly and the bass rolls off sharply below 40 Hz.
Title: Re: What types of speakers/specs are good for electronic, dance, techno music?
Post by: rollo on 17 Dec 2019, 07:13 pm
  Can you say JBL ? With an ALL Bryston system will rock your socks off. Do not forget Bryston speakers as well. Not a Bryston dealer.


charles


Title: Re: What types of speakers/specs are good for electronic, dance, techno music?
Post by: DaveC113 on 17 Dec 2019, 07:26 pm
I agree wrt big woofers. I have a speaker I designed that uses 15" woofers and also Pioneer S-1 EX, they use 2 x 7" woofers from TAD, and the bass is crap vs my 15" woofers. There is no replacement for displacement in audio as well as autos. ;) Big cabinets and big woofers are simply better. 

I'd look at Zu, JTR and JBL, they use pro-audio drivers that can take a lot of power and produce high SPLs, but are also good speakers overall. 
Title: Re: What types of speakers/specs are good for electronic, dance, techno music?
Post by: simoon on 17 Dec 2019, 08:25 pm
For electronic type music, I think speakers with large woofers and high efficiency is going to get you there.  My current favorites of this type of speaker is the Klipsch Forte III but there's several others that are good as well.  JTR audio is another good one.  So is the new re-launch of the classic JBL L100.  These will all give you that direct window into the music.  They also have a very exciting, punchy, get up and move type of sound.  And the are also not too bad on other types of music either.  :thumb:

This would be my recommendation also.

Since EDM does not really require the kind of accuracy that acoustic instruments require*, high efficiency, large woofers, dynamics and ability to play loud would seem to be what to aim for in your choices.

Some of the new Klipsch may be the way to go. Klipsch Heresy III would be fantastic! And they would also do a great job on other forms of music. 

*what I mean is, how the hell are we supposed to know if purely electronic music is being reproduced on our systems with accuracy, when we are unable to hear how the EDM musician created it? But with regards to acoustic instruments, a violin, piano, acoustic bass, etc, we all pretty much know what they sound like being played in a real acoustic space.
Title: Re: What types of speakers/specs are good for electronic, dance, techno music?
Post by: goskers on 18 Dec 2019, 12:59 am
I do not see that you stated the requirement to fill a large space with threshold breaking sound levels. The assumption seems to have been made for you that this is a requirement.

Not knowing your familiarity in the audio realm I would recommend a slightly different path which would allow you to find your preference in sound type. I would encourage you to purchase a pair of JBL LSR 3 series powered monitors as a pretty neutral reference. Feed them a signal and see what you think. These will be good enough to show you how good the music you are listening to is produced. This should also give you an idea as to if you want a speaker that reproduces the recording pretty true to the source versus adds its own type of flavor to the music. Lastly would be volume limitations and or the need for additional output.

If it were me and I were starting out I would not drop a lot of money down before I find out what it is that I like and what sort of value can be attained for my dollar.

My .02
Title: Re: What types of speakers/specs are good for electronic, dance, techno music?
Post by: stlrman on 18 Dec 2019, 01:46 am
How about book shelf or floor standers with Swarm sub system, or spreading three or four subs around the room.
I have heard this provides awesome bass.
Title: Re: What types of speakers/specs are good for electronic, dance, techno music?
Post by: JLM on 18 Dec 2019, 10:35 am
Duke's swarm is designed for serious listening, not EDM. 
 
As others have suggested big, efficient woofers would suit EDM well.  Look into PA speakers or use of large ported subwoofers.
Title: Re: What types of speakers/specs are good for electronic, dance, techno music?
Post by: Saturn94 on 18 Dec 2019, 04:50 pm
Hi thanks for the response! The information regarding the active bass drivers was very interesting and not something I knew could make a noticeable sound impact. I will have to look at the Focus series.

But I may not have explained myself thoroughly but I am definitely NOT trying to blow my face off with bass I rather am looking for speakers that can reproduce the depth, speed, and detail to electronic music. I am really looking for something that can immerse you in the sound and produces depth from all the layers commonly found in electronic music!

Thanks for all the responses this has been quite interesting!

I know I’ll get responses to the contrary, but the sound you described sounds like what I’m getting from my Magnepan LRS paired with my PSA sub (sealed).  The caveat is Maggies need lots of power/current to shine.

Infected Mushroom sounds amazing on this setup!
Title: Re: What types of speakers/specs are good for electronic, dance, techno music?
Post by: genjamon on 18 Dec 2019, 05:51 pm
Wow, lots of interesting recommendations around here!  Yeah, not the ideal forum to be asking about EDM, but it seems like some common themes are coming up.  I'll be building on them with my thoughts. 

I'm in law school so have music in the background a ton while studying, and try to make time for critical listening a couple hours a week if I can.  But I also have been in the hobby for about 20 years and have been around the block a few times with various systems over the years. 

I do listen to some EDM, in addition to classical, jazz, indie rock/pop, and so forth.  So, I have a sense of what you're talking about.  EDM can have some nice layers to reproduce, and it's NOT just about bass at all.  In fact, I've just been listening to a track by Grimes called Violence that has a ton of reverb and atmospheric effects to her voice that can throw a massive and enveloping soundstage if the system is up to it.  But I could also see a bright system ripping my face off trying to reproduce the high frequencies and the sibilance in her voice on this track.  So, midrange and high frequency clarity, immediacy, and naturalness are critical to high quality and long-term listening pleasure with EDM just as much as with jazz - perhaps even more so given the potential for harshness in all the electronic effects.




Ok, now to my thoughts about system-building with electronic music in mind.

I would second those arguing for high efficiency speakers and larger drivers.  In particular, I would recommend the Zu Omen Dirty Weekend for a supreme bargain, and would like to highlight how it's distinctive from other speakers like Klipsch and JBL that have been recommended as well.  Ok, caveat that these are my speakers, and of course others who have been promoting Klipsch and JBL are doing so because they own those speakers.  We all tend to recommend stuff on this forum based on our personal experience - duh.  And while that experience is usually based on hard-won and often costly lessons (so you can benefit from our lessons-learned), there's also inherent psychological bias for whatever we own and against what others own and would recommend.  I'm no different.  I have my reasons backed by science and semi-objective personal listening experience, but I also have my innate biases.  So regarding the following, YMMV, and IME, and all that...

I have nothing against the Klipsch or JBL or JTR, per se.  I have recently heard and enjoyed the Heresy III at a local friend's and a mid-end JBL at the same.  Heard a JTR model at RMAF in 2014.  Owned both Klipsch La Scala and original Heresy for about five years back in the early 2000's in the early phase of my audio journey.  They're all great brands and nice speakers.  All are also high efficiency and will have a nice dynamic and fairly immediate sound as a result. 

However, Zu does all of that without a traditional crossover, which makes it different, and which can be a significant advantage in terms of immediacy of sounds and layering of effects.  Those other speakers are high efficiency, and all tend to do a good job of creating a dynamic and engaging sound.  However, all have crossovers, and crossovers steal immediacy and detail.  If you have a speaker with a lot of crossover for the signal to pass through, you have to go to some pretty extensive and expensive lengths to have really high quality crossover parts if you're going to minimize this problem.  This often (usually) means opening up your speakers yourself and either upgrading crossover parts, or installing a completely newly built crossover.  Ok, you don't have to go to this length, but in my experience you're not hearing what your speakers are capable of without doing so.  With the Zu, you can quiet your mind knowing that you have as direct a connection between the amplifier and the drivers as you're going to get.  This gives you immediacy and microdynamic detail without lots of cost.   

But you'll need to buy the Clarity capacitor upgrade (the single capacitor on the tweeter) - about $100 I think.  I'd also strongly recommend the resistor upgrades and the upgraded footers if you're on a hard surface (about $100 total between the two).  The Clarity cap will bring refinement and transparency to the high frequencies, and the resistors make the speaker much more linear when powered by a wider range of amplifiers. 

The upgraded Zu ODW are my speakers, and I'll tell you why they are great for EDM:

Upsides:


Downsides:

The large 10" main driver is used all the way up into the lower treble - which means you won't get an accurate frequency response in the upper frequencies when listening outside a somewhat specific sweet spot.  Basically, any critical listening must be heard in a single "sweet spot" seat for accuracy of upper midrange and lower treble frequency response.  Outside this spot, you'll get a bit of a "cupped hands" kind of sound to those upper midrange sounds.  I don't mind the effect for background music, and I can always go sit in the prime spot for a song if the mood catches me in between reading cases.  For EDM, this doesn't matter much at all (to me at least) - just realize you'll get a different sound when sitting in the sweet spot vs. when off-center or walking around or whatever. 

The immediacy of a crossoverless design means that you'll hear even more of your electronics.  It's possible that the quality of your source material (noise from your streaming source, computer, or network) and/or your electronics (DAC, preamp, amp, or receiver) may impart harshness that the Zu will convey to you in all its fatiguing glory.  They'll always present an immediate and engaging sound, but may be more fatiguing than desired, depending on electronics.

And that's it!!!

Ok, for some, the downsides above are deal-breakers.  And they'd vastly prefer a speaker like the JBL which has an optimized horn structure and multiple drivers to ensure linear sound response, but do so with sophisticated crossover design, and potentially even outboard digital EQ.  Just different philosophies, and I don't think those guys are crazy for their opinions.  But I can hear the difference, and prefer the immediacy and versatility of the crossoverless Zu, especially in this price range.  And I can live with the downsides.



Finally, even if you don't go with the Zu, I would recommend considering a nice efficient, dynamic, and immediate sounding main speaker that goes down reasonably low (ballpark 40hz), like the JTR, Klipsch Forte, or maybe one of those JBL active speakers mentioned.  BUT!!, then supplement with a sizeable ported subwoofer or two.  Don't expect your main speakers to do EDM justice on their own, and it's not worth the cost of trying to find speakers that do, IMO.  Just get a good main speaker that can do the midrange and highs justice in terms of dynamics and immediacy for your needs, then use subs to address your bass needs.  Integrating subs to fit with main speakers is not a trivial exercise if done right, but IMO it's the lesser of all evils. 

I have an old 15 inch powered subwoofer designed by Mark Seaton of Seaton Sound (the MFW15).  The amps in the MFW15's were crap, and died early deaths, but Mark Seaton has offered a high quality reliable amp replacement that is tuned to the specific driver and cabinet combination.  It's great for filling a larger space.  Get one or two subs like this, depending on how much space you need to fill (lots of companies to consider - Rythmik, SVS, Hsu, or used bargains like the MFW15 - but be careful when going used as you might have reliability issues and end up replacing electronics and so forth).  Again, I'm very happy with my Zu ODW's and a sizeable sub in order to capably fill a pretty large volume space.  For a smaller space, you wouldn't need such a large sub to supplement.  In fact, I was pretty satisfied with the bass of the Zu's on their own in the small 11ft x 12ft office environment.

Good luck!
Title: Re: What types of speakers/specs are good for electronic, dance, techno music?
Post by: bsleepy on 18 Dec 2019, 06:18 pm
Wow, lots of interesting recommendations around here!  Yeah, not the ideal forum to be asking about EDM, but it seems like some common themes are coming up.  I'll be building on them with my thoughts. 

I'm in law school so have music in the background a ton while studying, and try to make time for critical listening a couple hours a week if I can.  But I also have been in the hobby for about 20 years and have been around the block a few times with various systems over the years. 

I do listen to some EDM, in addition to classical, jazz, indie rock/pop, and so forth.  So, I have a sense of what you're talking about.  EDM can have some nice layers to reproduce, and it's NOT just about bass at all.  In fact, I've just been listening to a track by Grimes called Violence that has a ton of reverb and atmospheric effects to her voice that can throw a massive and enveloping soundstage if the system is up to it.  But I could also see a bright system ripping my face off trying to reproduce the high frequencies and the sibilance in her voice on this track.  So, midrange and high frequency clarity, immediacy, and naturalness are critical to high quality and long-term listening pleasure with EDM just as much as with jazz - perhaps even more so given the potential for harshness in all the electronic effects.




Ok, now to my thoughts about system-building with electronic music in mind.

I would second those arguing for high efficiency speakers and larger drivers.  In particular, I would recommend the Zu Omen Dirty Weekend for a supreme bargain, and would like to highlight how it's distinctive from other speakers like Klipsch and JBL that have been recommended as well.  Ok, caveat that these are my speakers, and of course others who have been promoting Klipsch and JBL are doing so because they own those speakers.  We all tend to recommend stuff on this forum based on our personal experience - duh.  And while that experience is usually based on hard-won and often costly lessons (so you can benefit from our lessons-learned), there's also inherent psychological bias for whatever we own and against what others own and would recommend.  I'm no different.  I have my reasons backed by science and semi-objective personal listening experience, but I also have my innate biases.  So regarding the following, YMMV, and IME, and all that...

I have nothing against the Klipsch or JBL or JTR, per se.  I have recently heard and enjoyed the Heresy III at a local friend's and a mid-end JBL at the same.  Heard a JTR model at RMAF in 2014.  Owned both Klipsch La Scala and original Heresy for about five years back in the early 2000's in the early phase of my audio journey.  They're all great brands and nice speakers.  All are also high efficiency and will have a nice dynamic and fairly immediate sound as a result. 

However, Zu does all of that without a traditional crossover, which makes it different, and which can be a significant advantage in terms of immediacy of sounds and layering of effects.  Those other speakers are high efficiency, and all tend to do a good job of creating a dynamic and engaging sound.  However, all have crossovers, and crossovers steal immediacy and detail.  If you have a speaker with a lot of crossover for the signal to pass through, you have to go to some pretty extensive and expensive lengths to have really high quality crossover parts if you're going to minimize this problem.  This often (usually) means opening up your speakers yourself and either upgrading crossover parts, or installing a completely newly built crossover.  Ok, you don't have to go to this length, but in my experience you're not hearing what your speakers are capable of without doing so.  With the Zu, you can quiet your mind knowing that you have as direct a connection between the amplifier and the drivers as you're going to get.  This gives you immediacy and microdynamic detail without lots of cost.   

But you'll need to buy the Clarity capacitor upgrade (the single capacitor on the tweeter) - about $100 I think.  I'd also strongly recommend the resistor upgrades and the upgraded footers if you're on a hard surface (about $100 total between the two).  The Clarity cap will bring refinement and transparency to the high frequencies, and the resistors make the speaker much more linear when powered by a wider range of amplifiers. 

The upgraded Zu ODW are my speakers, and I'll tell you why they are great for EDM:

Upsides:

  • Efficiency - unbridled dynamics!

    No crossover into the main driver, and only a single capacitor on the tweeter -  Immediacy! - sounds jump out when you don't have a crossover to steal energy from the signal, including at low volumes

    Larger 10inch main driver - can move enough air to fill large spaces (my main listening is in a great room environment, 20ft x 25ft with cathedral ceiling with openings to long hallway and extra rooms - a pretty large volume of space).  This space would arguably benefit from one of the Zu models with dual 10" drivers, but the ODW does fine for my needs, and makes them versatile for use in smaller spaces too.

    Immediacy/dynamics also mean that it's great at low volumes too - I listen a lot while I'm studying late in the evening after the baby and wife have gone to sleep, and they have great articulation and intelligibility no matter what volume you listen to - and the sound quality scales quite linearly with volume

    The immediacy/dynamics also create great intimate connections with the performance in smaller spaces - when I've had the speakers in a small office setup they thrived there too, probably even better than in the large room

    Equally at home with rock and electronic music, and are really very good at classical too, as long as you're in the sweet spot

    Only about $1200 with all the upgrades mentioned above

Downsides:

The large 10" main driver is used all the way up into the lower treble - which means you won't get an accurate frequency response in the upper frequencies when listening outside a somewhat specific sweet spot.  Basically, any critical listening must be heard in a single "sweet spot" seat for accuracy of upper midrange and lower treble frequency response.  Outside this spot, you'll get a bit of a "cupped hands" kind of sound to those upper midrange sounds.  I don't mind the effect for background music, and I can always go sit in the prime spot for a song if the mood catches me in between reading cases.  For EDM, this doesn't matter much at all (to me at least) - just realize you'll get a different sound when sitting in the sweet spot vs. when off-center or walking around or whatever. 

The immediacy of a crossoverless design means that you'll hear even more of your electronics.  It's possible that the quality of your source material (noise from your streaming source, computer, or network) and/or your electronics (DAC, preamp, amp, or receiver) may impart harshness that the Zu will convey to you in all its fatiguing glory.  They'll always present an immediate and engaging sound, but may be more fatiguing than desired, depending on electronics.

And that's it!!!

Ok, for some, the downsides above are deal-breakers.  And they'd vastly prefer a speaker like the JBL which has an optimized horn structure and multiple drivers to ensure linear sound response, but do so with sophisticated crossover design, and potentially even outboard digital EQ.  Just different philosophies, and I don't think those guys are crazy for their opinions.  But I can hear the difference, and prefer the immediacy and versatility of the crossoverless Zu, especially in this price range.  And I can live with the downsides.



Finally, even if you don't go with the Zu, I would recommend considering a nice efficient, dynamic, and immediate sounding main speaker that goes down reasonably low (ballpark 40hz), like the JTR, Klipsch Forte, or maybe one of those JBL active speakers mentioned.  BUT!!, then supplement with a sizeable ported subwoofer or two.  Don't expect your main speakers to do EDM justice on their own, and it's not worth the cost of trying to find speakers that do, IMO.  Just get a good main speaker that can do the midrange and highs justice in terms of dynamics and immediacy for your needs, then use subs to address your bass needs.  Integrating subs to fit with main speakers is not a trivial exercise if done right, but IMO it's the lesser of all evils. 

I have an old 15 inch powered subwoofer designed by Mark Seaton of Seaton Sound (the MFW15).  The amps in the MFW15's were crap, and died early deaths, but Mark Seaton has offered a high quality reliable amp replacement that is tuned to the specific driver and cabinet combination.  It's great for filling a larger space.  Get one or two subs like this, depending on how much space you need to fill (lots of companies to consider - Rythmik, SVS, Hsu, or used bargains like the MFW15 - but be careful when going used as you might have reliability issues and end up replacing electronics and so forth).  Again, I'm very happy with my Zu ODW's and a sizeable sub in order to capably fill a pretty large volume space.  For a smaller space, you wouldn't need such a large sub to supplement.  In fact, I was pretty satisfied with the bass of the Zu's on their own in the small 11ft x 12ft office environment.

Good luck!



THIS WAS EXTREMELY HELPFUL!!!! I really appreciate the depth you went into the explanation and trying to help me understand the different components that are necessary to help reproduce good sounding electronic music! And I COMPLETELY agree with how you described Grimes music. That was exactly what I was trying to say regarding what I am hoping to get out of "good sounding electronic speakers" but you worded it a lot more concise and direct. It isn't necessarily all about huge bass and playing at extremely loud volumes but rather accurately, naturally, and clearly reproducing the depth of the various layers of the song and creating a unique soundstage that reflects that depth.

The ZU ODW are speakers I have also been looking at so it was really nice and helpful to hear you explain both the advantages and disadvantages of these speakers and the different upgrades and components and how they will effect the sound! This was really informative! I really didn't know much about the individual parts and their role in producing sound so this will really help me when I am choosing a pair of speakers! Thanks again for the information! I really appreciate it!
Title: Re: What types of speakers/specs are good for electronic, dance, techno music?
Post by: genjamon on 18 Dec 2019, 06:37 pm
You're welcome!  I just finished finals on Friday, and I'm procrastinating at the moment on course prep for my teaching next semester, and felt like spending the time on this instead.

Just keep in mind that my tastes are my own, and my experience doesn't encompass all of the models people have referenced on this thread.  I know there are strong arguments to the contrary of some of the positions I staked out.  So maybe someone will chime in with some things I'm overlooking or underplaying. 

And I'm also in a life situation where my system priorities are pretty value-oriented - and the Zu ODM is most definitely that.  It's just that I've been pretty satisfied with their electronic music abilities, as well as rock. 

 
Title: Re: What types of speakers/specs are good for electronic, dance, techno music?
Post by: FullRangeMan on 18 Dec 2019, 07:04 pm
Hey everyone,

Not sure if this is where I should be asking this question but I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations for speakers that like to play electronic, dance, techno style music? Most of the speaker reviews I have seen are geared towards classical, jazz, opera, etc. and I like listening to that music as well, but I have really been wanting to get a system that can really pump out the fast passed electronic music with a high level of clarity and depth. If there are certain speakers specs I should be looking for, or certain types of tweeters, speakers, sensitivity, etc. that go well with electronic music all and any help or recommendations would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!
I would suggest cheap pro-audio speaker or similar.
Other option are the hi sensitivity Klipsch RF7-II used or RF-83, these have lots of bass and needs just a few watts to rock.