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Industry Circles => GR Research => Topic started by: jrmedia on 6 Sep 2018, 01:43 am
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1. Why in most pictures do I see the audio equipment behind the speakers or mostly on the floor??
2. I currently have super v speakers I'm curious to know what size your guys rooms these are i
3. Anybody who is using the super v speakers can you post a pic
Just to let you know I listen nothing but vinyl and my system is in a finished basement ceilings are 9 foot
Thanks
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1. Why in most pictures do I see the audio equipment behind the speakers or mostly on the floor??
The cables in center position have the shorter way and most speakers emit sound just to front.
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I don't own them anymore, but here is an old pic.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=174584)
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Had a small rack like that, but went this route (shelf is scrap that I stained and spiked into the carpet). This opened up the soundstage to an amazing degree. System consists of newly acquired JBL 708P active monitors and DSPeaker (DAC/preamp/bass DSP), nice and simple, still setting up (note the concrete block speaker stands). Floor standing speakers, tweeters, and mono blocks in the back are static. Sub, second source, and two more GIK 244 panels on back wall are unseen. Wire in front is the DSPeaker calibration mike.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=184125)
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Had a small rack like that, but went this route (shelf is scrap that I stained and spiked into the carpet). This opened up the soundstage to an amazing degree. System consists of newly acquired JBL 708P active monitors and DSPeaker (DAC/preamp/bass DSP), nice and simple, still setting up (note the concrete block speaker stands). Floor standing speakers, tweeters, and mono blocks in the back are static. Sub, second source, and two more GIK 244 panels on back wall are unseen. Wire in front is the DSPeaker calibration mike.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=184125)
I spy a Bob Brines full range speaker in that pic.
Shakey
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1. Why in most pictures do I see the audio equipment behind the speakers or mostly on the floor??
2. I currently have super v speakers I'm curious to know what size your guys rooms these are i
3. Anybody who is using the super v speakers can you post a pic
Just to let you know I listen nothing but vinyl and my system is in a finished basement ceilings are 9 foot
Thanks
1. Because anything placed directly between or in front of the speakers messes with imaging. Between the speakers is best for shortest cable/wire runs, so keeping things low to the ground is best.
2. Nice speakers. I have the big brother of the Super Vs and I'm in a fairly small 14x18 dedicated audio/HT room in the garden-level basement.
3. No Super V pics for me.
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Here are a few of our room set ups.
2009 Show pic.
(http://gr-research.com/pics/dave.jpg)
2010 show pic.
(http://gr-research.com/pics/2010showpic.jpg)
2011 show pic.
(http://gr-research.com/pics/showpica.jpg)
2012 show pic with Super-7's. Same set up.
(http://gr-research.com/pics/2012showpic.jpg)
Lone Star Audio fest room.
(http://gr-research.com/pics/LSAFroom3.jpg)
At Gary Dodd's house.
(http://gr-research.com/pics/garys.jpg)
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1. Why in most pictures do I see the audio equipment behind the speakers or mostly on the floor??
Between the speakers, where the center image is, you really want to keep that area open and free if possible with the exception of diffusion or other acoustic treatment. The vast majority of musical information is in this area and having a "bunch of stuff", bookshelf, racks, etc will merely get in the way. Keeping in mind, depending on the design of the rack and circumstance, its entirely possible it could helping diffuse which is good but thats a crap shoot. Bottom line: If you can keep the area in the middle, center image free from stuff, this is probably going to yield the best results.
I recommend diffusion if its an option.
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1. Why in most pictures do I see the audio equipment behind the speakers or mostly on the floor??
2. I currently have super v speakers I'm curious to know what size your guys rooms these are i
3. Anybody who is using the super v speakers can you post a pic
Just to let you know I listen nothing but vinyl and my system is in a finished basement ceilings are 9 foot
Thanks
#1 Unfortunately lack of space, long cable cost attribute to gear in center. Cost of propr racks as well. #2 My bet most to small.
charles
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The room treatments have changed a fair amount, mostly just more of them. The main idea is not to have anything in between the speakers, the soundstage is so much better when the center is void of anything. These are my custom Super Vs that look like Super 7s, they are slightly shorter than Super 7s but otherwise look the same.
I've also found that I like the speakers even farther apart than what you see, the sound stage gets even bigger when the speakers are farther apart and toed in a bit more.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=161798)
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(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=161798)
What a room!! supérb room, this is your room?
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Danny, you sold those super 7's didn't you??
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Danny, you sold those super 7's didn't you??
Yes, I recently sold my personal pair. They went to a good home.
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Do you have any other speakers your selling??
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The room treatments have changed a fair amount, mostly just more of them. The main idea is not to have anything in between the speakers, the soundstage is so much better when the center is void of anything. These are my custom Super Vs that look like Super 7s, they are slightly shorter than Super 7s but otherwise look the same.
I've also found that I like the speakers even farther apart than what you see, the sound stage gets even bigger when the speakers are farther apart and toed in a bit more.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=161798)
Wow Greg, oh how I wish I had a similar room , beauty :beer:
jay
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Wow Greg, oh how I wish I had a similar room , beauty :beer:
jay
I refer to the dimensions and the ceiling, certainly it have a great acoustics.
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The room treatments have changed a fair amount, mostly just more of them. The main idea is not to have anything in between the speakers, the soundstage is so much better when the center is void of anything. These are my custom Super Vs that look like Super 7s, they are slightly shorter than Super 7s but otherwise look the same.
I've also found that I like the speakers even farther apart than what you see, the sound stage gets even bigger when the speakers are farther apart and toed in a bit more.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=161798)
Very nice set up! I imagine the sound is spectacular! Beautiful and well treated. I am jealous!
They do indeed look more like Super &'s than Super V's.
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Here are a few of our room set ups.
At Gary Dodd's house.
(http://gr-research.com/pics/garys.jpg)
What are the diffusion panels in this pic?
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Mr T's from Pi Audo Group
http://piaudiogroup.com/Sound_Diffusors.html
jay
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Mr T's from Pi Audo Group
http://piaudiogroup.com/Sound_Diffusors.html
jay
Those things work really well. They can transform a system. Highly recommended.
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Very nice set up! I imagine the sound is spectacular! Beautiful and well treated. I am jealous!
They do indeed look more like Super &'s than Super V's.
Thanks Guys, I feel very fortunate to have this space. I purchased the property next door to me and turned it into a rental. There was an existing 3 car garage on it that was in pretty bad shape and I couldn't get insurance on it. So, I worked out a plan where I got a listening room and my wife got a guest house. The back of the room is a full kitchen and bath, so when people come over they have a place to stay.
The room really does sound good and I can hear differences in gear very easily. I can also really hear the room and how it changes when I move the panels around in it. I now have corner bass traps floor to ceiling in the front corners and some more panels around the room.
Regarding the OPs question about having a rack in between the speakers I can't stress enough how important it is to have that area clear of anything that can effect the soundstage. It made a very significant difference for the better once I moved my audio rack to the side of the room. The sound stage became very large and the instruments float in the air at various locations. Now I can hear where the people are on the stage.
When the rack was in between the speakers the stage became confused and broken up and much less defined. You get used to it but it's not right and everything kind of runs together.
I hope this helps,
Greg
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Congratulations Greg it was a smart buy :thumb:
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This was mine.....waiting for the 7s
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm170/PDRCanada/zzzz4.jpg) (http://s296.photobucket.com/user/PDRCanada/media/zzzz4.jpg.html)
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This was mine.....waiting for the 7s
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm170/PDRCanada/zzzz4.jpg) (http://s296.photobucket.com/user/PDRCanada/media/zzzz4.jpg.html)
I was always intrigued by your design of the super Vs and I really admire what you did to your room. I also have always been impressed with your defuser that you made.
But my favorite thing you made is your audio rack. I can't recall what you made it out of now? I almost contacted you about it and was going to copy your idea. Eventually I moved the gear to the side of the room so having it low to ground wasn't needed.
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Thanks!
The super vs are gone now, but i kept the servos.
Just finished removing the tops and refinishing.
The subs look cool with the round tops, and I have the option of laying them
on their sides now.
The gear stand is made with structural steel studs...should be able to buy them at most drywall/construction
supply houses.
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1. Why in most pictures do I see the audio equipment behind the speakers or mostly on the floor??
2. I currently have super v speakers I'm curious to know what size your guys rooms these are i
3. Anybody who is using the super v speakers can you post a pic
Just to let you know I listen nothing but vinyl and my system is in a finished basement ceilings are 9 foot
Thanks
1. @Tyson has you covered. I like my low amp rack.
2. My rooms is 16.5' x 13.5' x 9' with one side of the ceiling angled in (so more like 7')
3. Here is my room. All digital these days. Neurochrome amp powering the Vs. PS Audio Stellar Gain Cell Dac. Transport is Mac Mini playing back lossless files out to the right (which also doubles as my office desk). Lots of acoustic treatments. All absorption and bass traps. Removed all spinning drives and anything that causes noise or heat (I'm in the finished attic). That's been my crusade the last year. Haven't changed anything in 6 months or so.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=185397)