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BDP-1 REVIEWS
« on: 6 Mar 2011, 04:28 pm »
Reviews on BDP-1 DIGITAL PLAYER


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Re: BDP-1 REVIEWS
« Reply #3 on: 10 Mar 2011, 05:39 pm »
Hi Folks

Measurements on the BDP-1 Digital Player plus BDA-1 DAC by Paul Miller in a recent review in the UK.








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Re: BDP-1 REVIEWS
« Reply #4 on: 10 Mar 2011, 07:25 pm »
Hi-Fi Choice review (page2); the reviewer didn't like the partnering BDA-1 as much, though.

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/audio-visual/hi-fi-and-audio/audio-systems/bryston-bdp-1-929064/review?artc_pg=2

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« Reply #5 on: 10 Mar 2011, 08:01 pm »
Hi-Fi Choice review (page2); the reviewer didn't like the partnering BDA-1 as much, though.

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/audio-visual/hi-fi-and-audio/audio-systems/bryston-bdp-1-929064/review?artc_pg=2

He's WRONG! :D
The numbers don't lie :thumb:

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« Reply #6 on: 11 Mar 2011, 12:00 am »
Hi-Fi Choice review (page2); the reviewer didn't like the partnering BDA-1 as much, though.

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/audio-visual/hi-fi-and-audio/audio-systems/bryston-bdp-1-929064/review?artc_pg=2


I was very into streaming audio but its too difficult to execute (with me anyways). I was quite prepared to do it before the bdp. (That Naim btw i priced and it was like $5500 bucks here and might have been more).

If i'm going to stream audio i was much pretty much headed into the Offramps from Steve N. Those are great products too but its still streaming. These devices want to be right next to the dac, so that means your computer or laptop has to be within the 7 meter length of usb.

The Naim for eg. i couldve used right next to my computer and run xlr to my preamp. Every one talks about how cheap cable is (you ever price 15mtrs of balanced cable especially stuff i like). We are talking at least a 1000 bucks for that connect. i know it can be cheaper but i have heard xlr at studio grade (homemade) and it wasnt that good... (well it was ok, nothing good or bad). This is troublesome since i wouldve had to either move my computer or use my laptop. Now using a laptop sounds nice and easy but is it?

It would have to be in battery mode (everytime i plugged in i could hear the powersupply show up in my tweeters... we are talking glare). Ribbon tweeters... you can hear everything. . And these laptops are not infinite in storage size. They are also subject to lag and every other fricken issue that can come your way by operating a system on the internet. (it would have to be a dedicated laptop) for convenience and battery for noise. More money and the so - called convenience of streaming is gone imo when compared to the bdp.

The bdp uses a $5 buck ethernet cable for commands. The price of usb sticks can be pricey but they can be re-used. It just made to much sense over streaming.

Oddly when i heard the bdp1 with that omega HDD (lousy). It sold me on the bdp. It demonstrated how bad a computer can muck things up. The usb stick was the starting gate in the bdp1 and it became clear sonically how to do this.

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« Reply #7 on: 11 Mar 2011, 03:58 am »
Yes, I should think so, James.  Is the order of the new BDA-1's (with new buttons) to Thailand on it's way?  My BDP-1 is lonely on the rack.  :|

BTW, is this the same guy who didn't review the BCD-1 very well?


He's WRONG! :D
The numbers don't lie :thumb:

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« Reply #8 on: 11 Mar 2011, 02:53 pm »
Yes, I should think so, James.  Is the order of the new BDA-1's (with new buttons) to Thailand on it's way?  My BDP-1 is lonely on the rack.  :|

BTW, is this the same guy who didn't review the BCD-1 very well?

Hi Klao,

I believe it is on its way - can you check with the dealer and let me know please.

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Re: BDP-1 REVIEWS
« Reply #9 on: 13 Mar 2011, 05:07 pm »
   I would love to see Bryston build a new  upscale dac( besides their current offering) with current chips( like the AKM 4399) and overkill power supplies etc.I personally think Bryston is missing a market by not doing so.Then again perhaps it is a market Bryston doesn't have any interest in.

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« Reply #10 on: 13 Mar 2011, 05:27 pm »
   I would love to see Bryston build a new  upscale dac( besides their current offering) with current chips( like the AKM 4399) and overkill power supplies etc.I personally think Bryston is missing a market by not doing so.Then again perhaps it is a market Bryston doesn't have any interest in.

I don`t know about the chips but i am pretty sure the power supplies are world class.

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« Reply #11 on: 13 Mar 2011, 06:02 pm »
   I would love to see Bryston build a new  upscale dac( besides their current offering) with current chips( like the AKM 4399) and overkill power supplies etc.I personally think Bryston is missing a market by not doing so.Then again perhaps it is a market Bryston doesn't have any interest in.

We are always playing with the new chips and devices as they come on to the market but especially in digital we have found that the differences between different DAC's and different sample and bit rates etc. do not provide as much of a performance advantage as paying strict attention to independent power supplies for digital and analog sections, independent ground planes, dedicated transformer coupled inputs, discrete analog output stages, extremely low noise floors etc.

The main aspect I loved about the recent review in HI-News n our BDP-1 Player (see above) and BDA-1 DAC was the measurements by Paul Miller showing what is considered older technology performing at a superb state of the art level. :thumb:

That's not to say you don't keep investigating for better performance it just means you have to be careful you do not get caught up in 'specmanship'

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Re: BDP-1 REVIEWS
« Reply #12 on: 13 Mar 2011, 07:18 pm »
  Well, numbers are nice BUT obviously don't tell the whole story.Compare several highly regarded dacs/cd players that measure like state of the art( with robust power supplies etc etc) and they will usually sound a little different even though according to the numbers they all should sound identical.If they all sounded the same we would all by the cheapest one with good specs.
 I am merely stating my opinion as a consumer of highend audio gear.Incidently, in the sub $3000 range I think Bryston has the best cd player( imo) but if your willing to spend more I have heard better( again imo). I have also heard some very expensive ones that didn't sound anywhere near their price tag.

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« Reply #13 on: 13 Mar 2011, 07:19 pm »
  Well, numbers are nice BUT obviously don't tell the whole story.Compare several highly regarded dacs/cd players that measure like state of the art( with robust power supplies etc etc) and they will usually sound a little different even though according to the numbers they all should sound identical.If they all sounded the same we would all by the cheapest one with good specs.
 I am merely stating my opinion as a consumer of highend audio gear.Incidently, in the sub $3000 range I think Bryston has the best cd player( imo) but if your willing to spend more I have heard better( again imo). I have also heard some very expensive ones that didn't sound anywhere near their price tag.

Agreed :D

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Re: BDP-1 REVIEWS
« Reply #14 on: 15 Mar 2011, 06:36 pm »
Hi Folks,

Was just informed today that the BDP-1 will be reviewed in the June 2011 issue of Stereophile. :D

Apparently the BDP-1 will also be featured on the front cover :thumb:

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« Reply #15 on: 15 Mar 2011, 07:09 pm »
 :D  Should be a great review if they are featuring it on the cover.  :thumb:

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« Reply #16 on: 22 Mar 2011, 05:40 pm »
James,

Just bought the BDP-1 (this year's b-day gift to myself) and connected it to the BDA-1 (last year's b-day gift)..Wow!

The improvement in detail and sound-stage depth are on par with a $20K + speaker upgrade

Andrew Netschay

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« Reply #17 on: 22 Mar 2011, 07:23 pm »
Hi-Fi Choice review (page2); the reviewer didn't like the partnering BDA-1 as much, though.

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/audio-visual/hi-fi-and-audio/audio-systems/bryston-bdp-1-929064/review?artc_pg=2

Hi folks

You know what, i was looking at this review from tech radar


Late in the day another tasty DAC turned up in the form of the Antelope Zodiac + and this proved to be rather more revealing than the Bryston – now we could hear right into the mix and enjoy nuances that have rarely been encountered previously. Essentially it showed that the BDP-1 is a more capable device than its partnering DAC suggests. Its reviews like this that make wonder how much these reviewers really understand what they are hearing.  .

No mention of Prat by this guy that i can see. The bdp and bda are Prat warriors. I will take good prat over resolution in a front end any day. It just so happens that any dac that does prat well usually will have good resolution too. He doesn't seem to care about prat but only makes mention of resolution. Very often in digital prat is reduced for resolution - thats a big fail. Prat is where it's at and makes you listen -not resolution. 

I can actually see where this is headed now with the hi rez. There are going to be a lot of interest paid to production of hi rez players coming out. All of them are going to talk about how great their resolution is but the money is in prat. They are going to give you a player that gives you great resolution _ and we will hear about it - but its going to have no rhythm - won't hear about that....  :lol:

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Re: BDP-1 REVIEWS
« Reply #18 on: 1 Apr 2011, 10:55 am »
From: Hart, Michael
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Hi James,

Compared to the BDP/BDA, the Classe CDP202 reminded me of how the 202 sounded when I used single ended cables and stock power supply. When I switched to the Chord XLR cables, Shunyata V-Ray II power supply and Shunyata power cords, the Classe came alive.

But now, compared to the Bryston combo, the Classe sounds like it did before the cable/power upgrades. It's like the cable/power improvements took the music half way there.

The Bryston combo finished the journey. Well done!

Michael S. Hart
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Re: BDP-1 REVIEWS
« Reply #19 on: 1 Apr 2011, 03:50 pm »




James, I had to put in my 2 Cents  :thumb:

Enjoy

Robert