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Other Stuff => Archived Manufacturer Circles => Red Wine Audio => Topic started by: Vinnie R. on 5 Sep 2011, 03:50 pm
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All,
We anticipate that by the end of this month, we will be into production of a
new, high-value integrated amp - The Signature 15 LFP-V Edition.
Details:
-- Class-A LFP-V Tube input stage
-- Discrete Class AB output stage (this is all new!)
-- 3 analog inputs, with input select switch on the front panel
-- LiFePO4 battery pack and charger (It is an LFP-V Edition product, afterall)
-- 1 Volume controlled set of RCA output jacks (which are fed from the tube stage)
-- LFP-V SMART board
-- Remote volume control
-- Power: 15wpc RMS into 8-ohm, 30wpc RMS into 4-ohm
-- Price: $1500
We are now taking pre-orders, and if you order this month, you can take advantage of our 10% off September promotion:
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=98258.0
Once we are into Production, Srajan of 6moons will be receiving the first review unit. Compare this to our original Signature 30 that we introducted back in 2006 for $1400 and you will see that the Signature 15 LFP-V Edition gives you MUCH, MUCH more for nearly the same price.
We won't have pictures until later this month when we receive the enclosures, but it will essentially be the same size as the Sig 30.2. The rear panel layout is going to be different, and the front panel will resemble the Isabella preamp (with the input select switch on the front).
Webpage, pictures, and more details coming md to late September. Pre-order one now and save!
If a clean, high-curent 15wpc into 8-ohm (30wpc into 4-ohm) is all that you need , this Class A/AB hybrid will deliver the goods - guaranteed by our 30-day refund policy.
Come listen at RMAF Room 1009!
Vinnie
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Excellent. I look forward to taking a listen at RMAF.
Support American manufacturers!! :thumb:
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Any more information how this Class A/AB works; is it automatic or can one choose via a switch for example?
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Any more information how this Class A/AB works; is it automatic or can one choose via a switch for example?
Details:
-- Class-A LFP-V Tube input stage
-- Discrete Class AB output stage
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Ok thanks. So I presume 'Discrete' mean one can choose.
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Nope. The amp plays in class A up to the level set by the bias current. When more power is called for, the amp delivers it in class B - automatically.
Congrats on the new amplifier Vinnie!
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Vinnie:
Since the amplifier output section is class AB, I assume it's not single-ended transistor output like the NP First Watt, Valvet (from Germany) and a few others. A battery powered, remote controlled, hybrid integrated single-ended amp for $1500 would be a very exciting new product! This is almost as good.
Is there anyway you could have done this single-ended or would the power be too low? Either way, best of luck with this new amp!
Gerry
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All,
Thanks for your posts an interest.
Nope. The amp plays in class A up to the level set by the bias current. When more power is called for, the amp delivers it in class B - automatically.
Not quite. The input tube stage is Class A, but the output stage is discrete FET in AB
("push pull" mode).
Doing a Class A output stage would not allow for much output power (unless a very large battery pack is used because of the amps of current that would be wasted in heat and a big enclosure with heat sinking - that is nature of Class A power output stages).
I hope this clarifies things a bit, but please let me know if you have more questions.
Sincerely,
Vinnie
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When will the new flagship be announced?
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When will the new flagship be announced?
The Liliana Monoblocks will be our flagship amplifiers. We are aiming to have them at RMAF, and be into production by the end of October. So I'll formally announce them early October before RMAF.
Best regards,
Vinnie
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will there be a mono block version or a power amp version?
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Vinnie:
I realize the following is a "loaded question" but within its power rating, how does the sound quality of the new Sig. 15 Integrated compare to the current Sig. 30.2 Integrated? All of the design and user features of the Sig. 15 are great on paper, but that doesn't mean much if it doesn't sound great. Of course I doubt that you would release a new amp if it didn't sound at least very good. Thanks.
Gerry
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will there be a mono block version or a power amp version?
Monoblock, for maximum separation and performance!
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Vinnie:
I realize the following is a "loaded question" but within its power rating, how does the sound quality of the new Sig. 15 Integrated compare to the current Sig. 30.2 Integrated? All of the design and user features of the Sig. 15 are great on paper, but that doesn't mean much if it doesn't sound great. Of course I doubt that you would release a new amp if it didn't sound at least very good. Thanks.
Gerry
Great question. How does it compare sonically to the Sig 30.2, within its power limits?
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Great question. How does it compare sonically to the Sig 30.2, within its power limits?
I am very curious about this myself.
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Great question. How does it compare sonically to the Sig 30.2, within its power limits?
All,
Excellent question - the Signature 15 LFP-V Edition compares very well sonically to the Signature 30.2 LFP-V Edition. If 15wpc RMS into 8-ohm (30wpc RMS into 4-ohm) is all the power you'll need, the Sig 15 LFP-V is a fantastic value! You will love it! 8)
Vinnie
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All,
Excellent question - the Signature 15 LFP-V Edition compares very well sonically to the Signature 30.2 LFP-V Edition. If 15wpc RMS into 8-ohm (30wpc RMS into 4-ohm) is all the power you'll need, the Sig 15 LFP-V is a fantastic value! You will love it! 8)
Vinnie
Vinnie:
Spoken like a true diplomat and father. After all, both of these amps are your "babies". :)
I guess we'll just have to hear them for ourselves. I'm fortunate in that I'm just up the road in RH, CT. Thanks.
Gerry
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Vinnie:
Spoken like a true diplomat and father. After all, both of these amps are your "babies".
I guess we'll just have to hear them for ourselves. I'm fortunate in that I'm just up the road in RH, CT. Thanks.
Gerry
Hi Gerry,
Perfect - When we have them in production, I'd really appreciate you coming down to visit for a listen. You can compare them. You can listen to the our listening room and set-up, but feel free to bring your own speakers or any other equipment that you wish - but especially music that you know very well and enjoy. :singing:
Just a few weeks....
Vinnie
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Hi everyone,
I am interested in getting either the Signature 30.2 or the new Signature 15.
Has anyone managed to do an A/B comparison yet?
BTW, Merry X'mas to everyone. :D
Cheers!
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I have owned the Sig 30 in every config, from the first Sig 30 to the current LFP-V version and in both integrated and straight power amp configs. I'm now running the Sig 15. What speakers are you using? I have a fairly recent thread on the Sig 15 in the RWA Circle (I got the first Sig 15 ever shipped). The professional reviews are not out yet, but if they are anything less than stellar they will need to have their ears examined. The Sig 15 is ultra transparent. Best way to say it is this amp sounds very, very lifelike.
Hi everyone,
I am interested in getting either the Signature 30.2 or the new Signature 15.
Has anyone managed to do an A/B comparison yet?
BTW, Merry X'mas to everyone. :D
Cheers!
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What speakers are you using?
Hi,
I am using a pair of Alesis Monitor One MK2 Passive speakers.
Their specs:
88db sensitivity
4 Ohms.
My speakers are easily driven by 8W per channel from tube amps.
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Ok, cool. Mine are 93 / 8 ohms. And the Sig 15 doubles power to 30 Watts RMS per channel into 4-ohms. That puts your speakers on par with mine for SPLs.
So far I have not found the upper limit of the amp in terms of volume. I'm in a small room and can only handle really loud for a few seconds. But the amp appears to have ample balls.
I'm anxious to hear what the industry pros have to say about this amp when the reviews begin to hit. My guess is they go either tremendous amp for the money or tremendous amp period. Based on my limited experience in home with other amps in the sub-$5,000 price range, my money is on the latter.
Hopefully more people will begin posting their experience and the reviews will hit to validate my opinion. For now I feel a bit like General Custer leading the charge. But I trust my ears, and my ears like what they hear from this little gem.
Good luck whatever you decide. K
Hi,
I am using a pair of Alesis Monitor One MK2 Passive speakers.
Their specs:
88db sensitivity
4 Ohms.
My speakers are easily driven by 8W per channel from tube amps.
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I have been using my Signature 15 for more than a month now and I could not be more satisfied with the look, functionality and most importantly, the sound! As Vinnie would attest to, I would have a hard time complaining about this unit since it is exactly what I have been bugging Vinnie to make for years. I have owned Red Wine units from the beginning and enjoyed them all but the Signature 15 is the best unit in my opinion. It is all that I need and I don’t find myself looking for something better in Audiogon anymore.
I had a Signature 30 LFP for a short time within the last year and returned it mainly since I needed the input selector on the front of the unit. From my memory (not from direct comparison), I am much more satisfied with the sound of the Signature 15. It seems more open, more depth and softer and smoother. Overall, it is more pleasant to listen to especially for long periods of time. I also love the compact size and the true Integrated Amp design.
In the past, I have used integrateds from Fi, Nuforce, Wavelength, Kenwood, NAD, Creek, PS Audio and preamp and amp combinations from Audio Research, First Watt, PSE, N.E.W, Berning, Monarchy along with other home brew tube amps.
For reference, I primarily listen to FM since we have a great commercial free Jazz station here in the SF Bay area. I listen at what most people would consider low volume…nowhere near the torture volume levels at most audio shows! Other than Jazz, I listen to music from or similar to Joni Mitchell, Solomon Burke, Van Morrison, Keb Mo, Cowboy Junkies, Lori Carson, Boz Scaggs, Vienna Teng, etc.
My system is a Bel Canto FM1 Tuner, Musical Fidelity CD Player, Signature 15 Integrated, Horn Shoppe Horns (I have a set of Hawthorne Solos on order), Mapleshade speaker wire, Kimber Silver Streak interconnect for the CD Player and Chord Interconnect for the tuner.
In summary, I am 100% satisfied at all levels with the Signature 15, Vinnie and Red Wine Audio!
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Hey FM, welcome to AC and the RWA Circle. Not bad for your first post on AC.
The list of electronics you've owned - to compare to Sig 15 - is impressive. My compares to RWA's DAC include a Wavelength, but I've never hear any of their amps (I sold the WL Cosecant in favor of Vinnie's NOS DAC).
Your Hawthorne Solos sound very interesting. I'm into the being there factor too, with Alnico single drivers. While I know this amp will do well with many speakers, I suspect owners of horns, single drivers and baffles may be among the more appreciative of Sig 15's highly transparent and neutral presentation.
Please do us a favor when the time is right and begin a new thread in RWA Circle to share your impressions of the Sig 15 / Solo pairing.
One thing I forgot to mention -- get with Vinnie or do some research on tube upgrades for your 15. The potential for improvement is high and can really earn this amp a ticket to the big league. K
I have been using my Signature 15 for more than a month now and I could not be more satisfied with the look, functionality and most importantly, the sound! As Vinnie would attest to, I would have a hard time complaining about this unit since it is exactly what I have been bugging Vinnie to make for years. I have owned Red Wine units from the beginning and enjoyed them all but the Signature 15 is the best unit in my opinion. It is all that I need and I don’t find myself looking for something better in Audiogon anymore.
I had a Signature 30 LFP for a short time within the last year and returned it mainly since I needed the input selector on the front of the unit. From my memory (not from direct comparison), I am much more satisfied with the sound of the Signature 15. It seems more open, more depth and softer and smoother. Overall, it is more pleasant to listen to especially for long periods of time. I also love the compact size and the true Integrated Amp design.
In the past, I have used integrateds from Fi, Nuforce, Wavelength, Kenwood, NAD, Creek, PS Audio and preamp and amp combinations from Audio Research, First Watt, PSE, N.E.W, Berning, Monarchy along with other home brew tube amps.
For reference, I primarily listen to FM since we have a great commercial free Jazz station here in the SF Bay area. I listen at what most people would consider low volume…nowhere near the torture volume levels at most audio shows! Other than Jazz, I listen to music from or similar to Joni Mitchell, Solomon Burke, Van Morrison, Keb Mo, Cowboy Junkies, Lori Carson, Boz Scaggs, Vienna Teng, etc.
My system is a Bel Canto FM1 Tuner, Musical Fidelity CD Player, Signature 15 Integrated, Horn Shoppe Horns (I have a set of Hawthorne Solos on order), Mapleshade speaker wire, Kimber Silver Streak interconnect for the CD Player and Chord Interconnect for the tuner.
In summary, I am 100% satisfied at all levels with the Signature 15, Vinnie and Red Wine Audio!
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Hi FMRadioman,
As Vinnie would attest to, I would have a hard time complaining about this unit since it is exactly what I have been bugging Vinnie to make for years. I have owned Red Wine units from the beginning and enjoyed them all but the Signature 15 is the best unit in my opinion. It is all that I need and I don’t find myself looking for something better in Audiogon anymore.
Welcome to the RWA forum! Great first post, and I glad you are loving your Signature 15 and I appreciate your feedback!
Please keep us post, and happy listening!
Vinnie
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I'm excited and honored to learn that the Signature 15 has just earned a
Blue Moon Award from reviewer Srajan Ebaen of 6moons.com
(http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/redwine14/award.png)
Here is the link to page 1 of the 5-page review:
http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/redwine14/1.html
First review for the Signature 15 - and a nice way to start off 2012! :beer:
More great stuff coming soon....
Vinnie
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Vinnie - Congrats on, yet, another award! How about an AC group-buy on the sig15 to celebrate!?! :wink:
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Vinnie - Congrats on, yet, another award! How about an AC group-buy on the sig15 to celebrate!?! :wink:
Thanks, radarnyc,
I'm open to suggestions if there is enough interest here... :wink:
Vinnie
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Congratulations Vinnie! At the level Srajan plays, its too bad he didn't try some NOS tubes. IMO there is tremendous potential to shape and improve the results. Try sticking a tube in a First Watt and see how far you get! :lol: :duh: :scratch: 8)
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Congrats Vinnie ...
Super Happy 2012 :)