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Industry Circles => ModWright Instruments (MWI) => Topic started by: modwright on 21 Apr 2020, 10:36 pm
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Cambridge Audio CXN V2 has a lot of features that are very attractive! It reminds me a lot of the venerable Logitech Transporter that we had great success modifying as a one box digital solution.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=207569)
Please let me know if there is interest in such a mod.
Thanks,
Dan W.
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Yes please. The exact unit I was looking at for down the road when doing system upgrades.
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Thanks for that. This unit does appear to check all the boxes!
Not expensive.
Does everything that you would want it to do: streaming, dig. in and out, analog out and can handle all hi-rez files with a good screen/interface.
There is room inside for us to install our mod boards and in so doing, keep the cost down.
Cambridge Audio is a good and respected name.
The question that remains for me now, is what is the level of interest? As many of you know, I don't have time for one-off mods and I am looking for a small number of products that I can invest time in developing a Reference Grade modification for and continue to offer it for some time.
Dan Wright
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Dan,
I don't own one of these, but after reading through Cambridge Audio's website description, it looks appealing. What would your mods bring an owner of this product? Would tubes be added?
Thanks,
Michael
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I like the idea,
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Tubes would be added, replacing the stock analog stage, after the DAC. It would allow for balanced and SE outputs and would also ideally provide dedicated analog and digital power supplies for the DAC and audio circuits, of our own design.
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Agree, it appears to be an excellent platform for your mods. I like it.
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Interesting.
I've been running a Cambridge 851C balanced into an Atma-Sphere preamp. I'm wondering if the 851C might work well as a transport to a tube-modded CXN? Hmmm.....
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Hi Dan,
Would your intended mod work for a CXU first generation as well?
Greg
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I would expect that if we modify this unit, we can do it for first Gen units also. It really depends on the changes made.
Thanks,
Dan
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Probably better than my Node2i
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Yes! ;)
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I think it would fill a gap in the lineup from the Transporter. :thumb: It’s a nice entry into the MW family.
How about a trade in program? :popcorn:
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Thanks, as for a trade in program, I am really not interested in taking old digital in trade I am afraid. I just don't have time to re-sell used gear.
I do appreciate the input!
Dan
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I have an alternative view to those that have posted so far.
Most people that are interested in MW gear are likely to be beyond entry level in their HIFI walk IMHO. If they are also streaming Digital then they probably already have or are interested in using Roon in their system. The feature thats missing in this device is the lack of support for RAAT (Roon native protocol). Yes, it has Chromecast which you can use as a Roon end point, but I suspect that will not be good enough for most audiophiles.
Unfortunately CambridgeAudio also does not have a good history of updating older products with new software features, so the product may not have a long life.
I hope this alternative view provides some useful info.
Cheers
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Woops, I have just seen that there has been a recent update to the CXN that adds support for RAAT. I'll have eat my words :duh:
Just shows how quickly things change in the technology world, particularly for devices that are very "soft".
Colin
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I am interested and willing to commit to the mods Dan! Thoroughly enjoying my Modwright PH 9.0. This offers a great streaming one box solution.
NB
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MQA?
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No MQA with the Cambridge Audio CXN V2.
NB
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Thank you all. The Roon endpoint ability is important. The jury is out for me on MQA.
While I know that many of our customers have high end systems, the idea is to take this relatively inexpensive product and turn it into a High End digital solution! The technology is the hard bit and they have it all locked down it looks like. I don't have history with Cambridge Audio as to their upgrade-ability, etc., but it sounds like they have included a way to update firmware which is important!
I am certainly willing at this point to develop a mod for the product and see how it goes!
Historically, I have either bought a unit to develop the mod or offered a VERY good price to a custom who is willing to send me a unit to develop the mod. The offer is typically a 50% discount based on the retail price of the mod as well as the option to fully update it in the future at no cost, if the mod design evolves past what was done to the first article.
I do believe that these units are available. Does anyone have experience with the stock sound?
Thank you all in advance!
We are safe and well here and I do sincerely hope the same for all of you too!
Dan W.
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Dan,
I don't have any direct listening of the stock unit. However, Steve Deckert of Decware has really raved about this unit. I trust Steve's ears as he's built most of my tube equipment. Here's a link to his thread on the CXN V2 which includes his listening observations and strong recommendation:
https://www.decware.com/cgi-bin/yabb22/YaBB.pl?num=1587527488
This should give folks some insights into what looks like a great, modest cost digital product. With your mods Dan, this could be exceptional.
NB
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I have followed Steve for years and if he is impressed, that is good enough for me! I think this is a go!
Thanks!
Dan
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I have the Cambridge in my second system and really like the unit.
I currently have it feeding a Preachtree Nova 300 and have used it as a Roon endpoint via my NAS. I haven’t played around with it too much, but I have used the analog out and digital to the Emotiva Erc-4. I think I prefer the ERC DAC, but as I’ve said that is with limited tweaking, and critical listening.
If you do this mod, count me as interested.
Shaun
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Thanks!
Dan
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I have a unit on the way from a customer as the first article!
I will share all progress and results here!
Dan
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I have this unit IN THE HOUSE! I have looked inside and confirmed that it has the real estate I need to do what I want to do. I am currently listening to it stock, letting it burn in and getting a feel for its abilities.
Color me impressed! This is a solid unit! It is the 'Digital Swiss Army Knife' that I always considered the Slim Devices Transporter, but of course with much more modern tech!
Stay tuned....!
Dan
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Hi Dan,
I am also very interested in this mod. I'm still running the Transporter I bought from you back in January of 2008. Roon did a nice job of supporting the Logitech/Slimserver gear by extending their software to treat all the LMS devices as Roon end points. So my Transporter continues to get daily use. It's only failure was the death of its bespoke Wifi card, so I can only run it via Ethernet cable. I've heard some units have had power supply issues, and one of your people told me that you still have some power supply parts available. So I don't NEED another digital streamer. But the Cambridge unit looks like it has all the right features, if the sound quality is there. And if you do your magic, I'm certain it will be!.
By the way, I now have a month and over 80 LP's under my belt with the MWI 9.0 tube phono stage. It has met and exceeded my expectations. I never think about it... I just have great music! It doesn't call attention to itself, but everything I care about in music -- mostly the emotional connection -- it there in exactly the right balance. Great job!
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Hi Dan. I have some customers that have tbis piece and like it very much. I still haven't made the jump to streaming but doing it this year. I may also be interested in one of the ModWright versions. I will be following your progress on this.
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Hi CometCKO, I am pleased to hear that you are enjoying our PH 9.0!
The Cambridge CXN is a great piece! I have had some time with it stock now and am very impressed!
I have already started looking at the new power supply to replace the switching supplies to the audio circuits. I believe it will be a similar topology as that which we us in a different mod (not Oppo), using transformer input coupling and a tube analog stage with dedicated supply. We will also provide a dedicated supply to the DACs and digital audio circuits.
Retail price for the mods is expected to come in at or about $1500. Power supply will be inboard, so no umbilical or external supply. This allow us to make the mod $1K cheaper than our Oppo mods and offer a more streamline design!
Bill Baker, this is a great unit and a logical place to make the jump!
Thanks,
Dan
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Is the plan for SS rectification of the power supply? Or is there room for tube rectification? This thread has me tempted to give up my Transporter. :o
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Good point! I will have to look at this! I agree that tube rectification is desirable....and it JUST looks so cool! ;)
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Dumb question: Not being familiar with your mods, is it a DIY kit or would be be buying the mod'd/completed unit from you?
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I do not typically offer our mods as a kit.
The reason for this is because we have to machine the enclosure to mount the transformers and PCBs as well as the cover to allow the tubes to be exposed and vent heat.
Also, the interface of our circuits with stock involves removal of surface mount parts and a mistake by the DIYer would render the unit inoperable.
I have decided that the mod will include two new transformers, one for analog one for digital, to replace power from the switching supply to the audio circuitry. Depending on the current draw from the SMPS, I will not likely replace it outright, but rather let the switcher still power the processors, etc. All audio circuitry will be powered from our own linear supply however.
I have a plan for the output stage, tubed, transformer coupled. I am finalizing this still because I want to keep the XLR and RCA outputs. Lundahl transformers are expensive and the use of four of them like we did in the Oppo mods will increase the price.
Thanks,
Dan
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I do not typically offer our mods as a kit.
This is the "correct" answer and what I was looking for. :green: Thanks! I just want to plug it in an enjoy it.
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Absolutely! Plug and play! That is the plan!
Thanks,
Dan
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I ordered a unit to try out. Definitely following your work with interest.
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It is fantastic! I am looking for the right output transformers now to allow RCA and XLR outputs. Power supply design complete and tube schematic largely complete.
Next step is to layout the PCB.
Thanks,
Dan
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It is fantastic! I am looking for the right output transformers now to allow RCA and XLR outputs. Power supply design complete and tube schematic largely complete.
Next step is to layout the PCB.
Thanks,
Dan
Dan any idea of the tube sets that will be used? Maybe the same as the Transporter 8). Will your output section replace the op amps in the stock model? Will the Original power supply stay or the entire into is replaced. I’m too excited to find out more :thumb:
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Tube type will be 6922. Possibly also allow 6N1P. The Transporter used 6CG7 and later 6SN7, but I have a better and different tube circuit in mind that requires a tube like the 6922 to work.
We will replace the op-amps.
The stock supply will remain for powering the computer portions of the unit only. All audio circuitry power will be our own internal supply.
Thanks! I am excited too!
Dan
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New unit hanging out with the old guys.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=210312)
I’m looking forward to kicking the tires. :thumb:
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Looking forward to this project, Dan.
I'm still enjoying your ModWright Oppo 95, BTW.
Cheers!
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Any updates on this project?
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I had to repair my old Modwright with a new power supply to the front screen. 8) I’m playing them both and the old unit sounds better. To me it connects with the music better. However I bet with the op amps out of the new unit and a Modwright output stage it would be an awesome unit.
Definitely following this development.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=210312)
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Update: Don't mean to speak for Dan, but he sent me an email yesterday and said he has been slammed with equipment backorders. As a result of the Covid-19 situation, its just he and his son building units for the time being, putting in 12 hour work days. Hopefully, he is getting some rest as well. So the Cambridge CXN V2 modifications appear to have been delayed for just a little bit.
I'm sure that Dan will share information and some photo's with all of us when he can. Hang in there guys, I understand "the wait will be well worth it".
Cheers,
NB
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Update: Don't mean to speak for Dan, but he sent me an email yesterday and said he has been slammed with equipment backorders. As a result of the Covid-19 situation, its just he and his son building units for the time being, putting in 12 hour work days. Hopefully, he is getting some rest as well. So the Cambridge CXN V2 modifications appear to have been delayed for just a little bit.
I'm sure that Dan will share information and some photo's with all of us when he can. Hang in there guys, I understand "the wait will be well worth it".
Cheers,
NB
I saw a post on fb from Dan and he seems extremely busy managing the builds during these challenging times. We will wait patiently. In the meantime here is a great new review https://youtu.be/N8bSQSFm56E (https://youtu.be/N8bSQSFm56E)
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I know this may take some time, but tracking along and interested as well.
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Here is an update from FB.
From Dan “ And so it begins...Finally getting the rubber on the road for the Cambridhe Audio CXN tube mod. Differential 6922 tube based analog stage with fully balanced and RCA out, transformer coupled with no caps in the signal path.
Dedicated tube and DAC supplies of our own design, all in a one box solution. Not sure that tube rectification will be feasible.
Next step is to breadboard the circuit, integrate with DAC and layout the PCB.
The circuit topology for the mod is based on the Elyse DAC ($6900) analog stage. This circuit also evolved into our $10K LS 300. So it will be very good!
Pricing is still TBD, but intro pricing is $1500, just for the mod. You supply the Cambridge CXN DAC/streamer.
I already have several units here and we are keeping a list of those who are intersted also. If you want to be on that list, please post here, PM me.”
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=214334)
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=214335)
From Dan “ Cambridge CXN Mod Design coming along nicely!”
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=214336)
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I think this is going to be my Christmas present to myself!
Looking forward to this Dan!
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Hi guys and thank you so much for your patience and support. This has been a rough year and things are not moving as quickly as I would like.
The PCB layout is done and the analog stage and analog filters, supplies, etc. all bread-boarded and proven. This is going to sound GREAT!!!
I am sending off the PCBs for production today, after double checking all mechanical coordination. This should take about a week to get them back. I will then start assembling and testing the first unit.
The design I settled on for the analog stage is based on both the Elyse DAC and the LS 300 preamp ($10K!). The mod will be offered starting at $1500! You must supply the Cambridge unit.
The design has no capacitors in the signal path. A differential signal is taken directly from the dual mono Wolfson DACs into a fully balanced, transformer coupled, 6922 based circuit. Both RCA and fully balanced XLR outputs are fed via the tube circuitry. The tube stage is powered by our own supply and we are also providing a dedicated supply for the DAC section, also of our own design. Power supply and all analog circuitry is in one box, much like the Transporter. Rectification is SS, not tube, due to space and heat constraints.
The Cambridge CXN is the first 'Swiss Army Knife' unit that I have seen since the Slim Devices Transporter, except the technology and capabilities are FAR beyond! It is a streamer/DAC, not a player, so it won't replace the Oppo 205 in this regard, but for all things digital, streamed or otherwise, this offers a fantastic one-box solution!
Again, I thank you all for your patience and support. I hope that this finds you safe and well!
Sincerely,
Dan W.
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Great news Dan. Thanks for sharing and hope the rest of 2020 is easier for you.
NB
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Thank you! I hope that the rest of 2020 is better for ALL of us!
Dan
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Hi Dan,
Have you heard the results of your Cambridge mod yet or is it too early to say?
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Too early to say, but I have a good handle on the stock unit and it is good!
I also know how the circuit sounds, so I have NO DOUBT that it will be outstanding! Once I get everything installed, I will adjust and voice the circuit until I am happy of course.
Very good things to come!
Thanks,
Dan
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I am waiting for the final PCBs to be delivered any day now! I just wanted to give an update here.
Thanks,
Dan
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OK guys, I got the PCBs in and they test good!
Tomorrow it is going to all move into the DAC for REAL testing!
I have the circuit design complete.
I have the mechanical logistics of it all worked out.
I have the levels engineered based on incoming and outgoing.
Tomorrow I just have to see how it makes music!
I am quite excited because I know how the LS 300 sounds and it was based on the Elyse DAC analog stage.
This is going to be great!
Dan
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New developments for this project
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=216502)
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=216503)
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First unit ships this week!!!
I have the analog filters finalized and mechanical fitup also complete.
I have only to finalize a power switching decision and RCA/XLR output configuration.
I am very pleased with the result!
Thanks,
Dan
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Here is a Facebook link to additional pictures and discussion of the CXN V2 mods from Modwright.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3639789836085334&id=100001630611649&sfnsn=mo
NB
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First unit ships today! I have the second unit in house and a list of people waiting to schedule start dates.
I will post more photos here today.
Thanks,
Dan
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Photos of the first Cambridge CXN Tube Mod!
Note: There is no finish plate on the top, around the tubes. This is still being finalized at the engraver. It will look sharp!
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=216862)
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=216867)
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=216866)
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=216864)
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=216863)
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Man, oh man, oh man. This looks like a real game changer. Beautiful work Dan.
NB
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Thanks, I appreciate that! It turned out very well!
Dan
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Are the rca/xlr outputs bypassed? It looks like there is an additional pair installed to the right on the pic.
Also, does this have variable out - volume control or do you have to use the modded unit with a preamp?
Looking good Dan!
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The stock RCA outs are bypassed and we install upgraded RCA outs. The XLR outs are fully functional and fully balanced.
RCA and XLR outs are wired in parallel, with RCA ground common to XLR pin 3 (-).
The volume control is not disabled, so volume is fully variable.
It is a fantastic and flexible unit! It is a modern version of the Transporter that we used to mod, with HUGE leaps in technology and a mod design that also reflects what we have learned in the years since the Transporter mod!
Thanks,
Dan
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Looking Sharp!
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The recent issue of The Absolute Sound has a great review of the Cambridge CXN along with a 80W integrated. Despite its low price, the CXN is PHENOMENALLY flexible as a digital solution! It is both streamer and DAC, with Roon connectivity too! With our mods, this becomes a one-box Class A digital solution for about $2500!
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I have posted a review of the prototype modified CXN V2 received from Dan. Here is a page link for anyone who might be interested: https://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=173490.new#new.
NB
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If interested in getting on our emailing list, please email kristin.modwright@yahoo.com. She is sending out a mailing now with all information. We have a wait list already. If you are interested in the mod, please email to be added to our list.
Thanks, Dan Wright.
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The more I look at this mod, the more interest I have. I'm not in a financial position to do this at the moment (covid is hitting the bank too), but hopefully this is something I can move on in 2021. The design just seems correct to me, and with Tidal connect coming to the CXN earlier than most, this now seems functionally more appealing than any separates for my uses. I already enjoy my CXN, but this might keep me from wanting separate streamer and dac upgrades for the foreseeable future so I can focus on other things. This upgrade has completely derailed my digital upgrade plans, and I'm ok with it!
Fingers crossed we can get the finances turned around in the next few months so I can get on the wait list. Time will tell, but I look forward to more reviews as they come out. Great work!
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This is why I decided to modify it. It IS the right unit! Its functionality and good stock sound make sense. We can really make it sound great!
Dan
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This is why I decided to modify it. It IS the right unit! Its functionality and good stock sound make sense. We can really make it sound great!
Dan
Thanks Dan, looking forward to hearing more reviews from others as these make it out into the wild. Obviously those might be a little slow with reduced production and just getting this one off the ground, but until I can pull the trigger I'd love to live vicariously through others who are lucky enough to get it first :D
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Dan:
Have you compared the Cambridge to your modded Oppo UDP-205? I would think the Oppo would sound better but wondering how close they are.
Thanks!
Pete
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My CXN V2 is due here at the house on Friday. I'll send 'er in next month for a mod!
This is gonna be good!
8)
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I have not had the chance for a direct comparison between Oppo 205 and CXN mod yet, no.
The tube circuit is more sophisticated in the CXN, but they are very different machines. Different DACs, etc. I will do a side-by side soon and post my results! I expect it will be very close either way.
Thanks,
Dan
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How long is the wait list now for this Mod?
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How long is the wait list now for this Mod?
I believe they may still be working on reduced staff. If that's the case I'd imagine it's pretty significant, even if it's not that many units.
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Morganc,
Drop an email to Kristin. Fastest way to find out.
NB
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Kristin will tell you what the lead time is. We are completing the units this week and next. The lead time is not horrible, but if you want to get in the queue, the sooner you do, the sooner you will be able to get it done.
Thanks,
Dan
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If using this as a digital transport only (To a Rega DAC-r), are there any mods available or recommended or does this largely only impact the analog outs?
Thanks for any insight or recommendations!
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The mods are really only intended to improve this units use as a standalone player. It is so good with our mod, that there is no need for another DAC. The Dual Wolfson DACs are great! With a proper power supply and Class A tube analog stage....its good!
Thanks,
Dan
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Here's a link to the TAS article on the CXN V2.
https://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/cambridge-audio-cxn-v2-network-audio-streamer-and-cxa81-integrated-amplifier
NB
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Here's a link to the TAS article on the CXN V2.
https://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/cambridge-audio-cxn-v2-network-audio-streamer-and-cxa81-integrated-amplifier
NB
Thanks, that was a good read. I think it answers a lot of questions I've seen around the dacs in the CA integrated amps too.
I was a little surprised to see such a desire for MQA inclusion. I've never lived with MQA, but heard it many times in other systems and it's never done anything too special for me.
All in all a very positive review though. I think a lot of people will end up hung up on his comments about the pairings and frequency peaks unfortunately, but then again if the Modwright mod fixes those peaks without taking away anything else, that could further validate this mod.
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I’m really considering ordering one of these! I’m debating this or a Teac NT-505. How do I decide :duh: :? :|
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P,
If you want a multitude of upsampling and filtering options then the TEAC is for you. If you want the best user experience (ease of use), Swiss army knife-like flexibility, and the option for Modwright tube modification then the Cambridge.
The stock units are pretty close in SQ. The modified Cambridge SQ is just exceptional. FWIW, I replaced a modified TEAC NT-503 with the Modwright modified Cambridge CXN V2.
NB
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Thank you for the insight. Darko has a nice review of the Cambridge as well. I'm still trying to decide! Pros and cons on both sides. I think I might buy both and do a shoot out! Return one at the end of 30 days.
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Tidal Connect has finally arrived for the CXN and other Cambridge streamers. I haven't had a chance to use it yet, but confirmed it is showing up on the device. If you're like me and mostly using Tidal, this is a potential game changer!
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I have a few questions:
1. Can you use this unit with an external DAC?
2. Are most of the mods done on the streaming side or the Dac side of the unit or both?
3. Any more user/owner feedback?
I’m running an Auralic Aries mini into a Audio Mirror Troubador Se Dac and curious what this unit might add.
Thanks in advance.
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The mods are intended to improve it as a streamer/DAC, i.e. standalone digital solution. It can be used with an external DAC, but our mods would not benefit it.
It is an amazingly flexible unit with Roon, Tidal, Spotify connectivity and just about any other way to connect to local or network storage and plays all high-rez formats (not sure about MQA).
My goal was to make it a fantastic all-in-one solution for about $2500, in a world in which digital is simply changing very fast. There is no need for a dedicated server, as you can use a NAS, locally connected HD or connect to any network via WiFi, Chromecast, ethernet, etc. It is also a fully capable Roon endpoint.
Thanks,
Dan
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Thanks Dan. One more question. How does this sonically compare to your Elyse DAC? Just trying to get an idea of the sonic signature.
Thanks
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The Elyse DAC is a bit better, albeit at $7K, but the Elyse DAC does not have DSD capability nor the ability to interface with any of the new hi-rez formats and networking like the Cambridge CXN.
Thanks,
Dan
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I have a few questions:
1. Can you use this unit with an external DAC?
2. Are most of the mods done on the streaming side or the Dac side of the unit or both?
3. Any more user/owner feedback?
I’m running an Auralic Aries mini into a Audio Mirror Troubador Se Dac and curious what this unit might add.
Thanks in advance.
It would be really great to hear comparisons of an Aries Mini + Troubadour SE vs the Modwright CXN.
Both streaming elements are highly reviewed and praised.
Both have a true tube stage.
Both options come in near the $3K mark. (Modwright CXN has the advantage here)
Obviously not exactly the same with a lot of design differences. But they are comparable and it would be really interesting to hear these separates vs the compact Modwright CXN.
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Alright. I’m ready for an upgrade. My CXN shipped out for mods this morning.
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Alright. I’m ready for an upgrade. My CXN shipped out for mods this morning.
I'm excited to hear another review!
Did you already own your CXN, or is a new unit shipping straight to MWI?
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I’ve owned my CXN since last may. It is a great all around streamer. I had been feeding it into a separate DAC to open the soundstage and provide better depth. I’ve since sold the DAC and this all in one solution appears to be what I need. I’ll be sure to provide my thoughts once all complete.
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Thanks, you will be pleased!
Dan
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Dan is being modest. You'll be AMAZED!!!
NB
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Thanks!
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I’m sure I will be more than pleased. Now what would be amazing is if You include one of those fantastic ceramic mugs you’ve been crafting. :lol:
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I'm sure that could be done :D. Just let me know what your color preferences are.
I appreciate your business.
Dan W.
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I am joking on the free coffee cup. I do want to pick one up (and pay for your hard work), so I will share separately on that front.
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Fair enough ;). Thanks!
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I have the modified CXN V2 for about 2 months and sound amazing,there is no competition with the stock unit,which was actually good but not great.The modification worth every penny,great work.
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I’ve owned my CXN since last may. It is a great all around streamer. I had been feeding it into a separate DAC to open the soundstage and provide better depth. I’ve since sold the DAC and this all in one solution appears to be what I need. I’ll be sure to provide my thoughts once all complete.
Good to know! I'm looking forward to hearing your feedback!
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I have the modified CXN V2 for about 2 months and sound amazing,there is no competition with the stock unit,which was actually good but not great.The modification worth every penny,great work.
That's great, but it shouldn't compete with stock as it's more than double the investment. It's more interesting to compare to solutions at the same total investment price point. So looking at near the $3K mark.
- Musical Paradise MP-D2 MK3 + Lumin U1 mini feels like a VERY robust and upgradable tube option for just over $3K.
- Auralic Altair G1 maintains a single box solution from a reputable established company at the same total cost as this investment.
- With the Volumio Primo now being sold in the US, that would leave nearly a $2K Dac budget. Pair that with LKS DA004, Denafrips, Holo Spring, fully loaded MP-D2 etc. Lots of options.
There aren't as many single box solutions, but there are a TON of really compelling combos at this price point. And not being able to hear or even see most options makes it difficult. And the MWI CXN still has some key features the others don't, like Tidal Connect and a Class A output stage. It's a true paradox of choice situation.
Dan, any chance you have an affiliate/customer network of people who may be willing to meet up?
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Dan, i've listened to your modded Oppo 105d years ago and was blown away, but i couldn't afford it at the time and recently as a few weeks ago had a chance to demo it again at a great price including some great tubes, but i ultimately passed given its age and lack of 4kHDR which leaves it as a standalone DAC for my computer based source-no CDs-all digital. I have always used my HTPC to play or stream music, but as it gets older, and the HTPC heats up when i convert to DSD, i wonder if its time for a streamer that can be my dedicated all in one situation and still be a dedicated DAC for my HTPC while it keeps ticking.
While i am one of those weirdos who likes his entire system aesthetically matched and would prefer a McIntosh DAC tube modded by you, i understand you don't do one off work given your busy schedule and i am very intrigued by this Cambridge mod(Does it come in black?).
-Have you compared it as a stand alone DAC compared to others in the same price range?
-My first experience with the Oppo 105d Mod was my first experience with tubes. As mentioned, i was blown away. This 2nd time around, demo'd directly after a hybrid Pathos integrated, the Oppo with solid state Mac had a very clean sound, but i didn't get that lush or bloom sound i like with tubes and was getting with tubes in the pre of the Pathos. Is this Cambridge DAC also steering away from typical "old" Tube sound description traits? Hope that makes sense.
Thanks
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I have been interested in the CXN-v2 for a while now for it's streaming capabilities. I really don't need the DAC portion as I just bought a Wyred 4 Sound DAC2v2SE ($3,800) and for the first time my digital side sounds as good or better than my vinyl side. It sounds like the modded version would not offer any improvement over stock for digital out only. Is this correct? Thanks.
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I've had the Modwright modified Cambridge CXN for a couple months and thought I'd share my thoughts. I've been a long time Modwright customer, having previously owned the Sony 999ES, Oppo 83, 95, 105 and 205. Each iteration offered a noticeable sonic improvement, with the UDP-205 being the pinnacle in digital sound (IMHO). However, I found that I was rarely listening to disks and wanted to simplify my system so I purchased a stock CXN V2. As a long time squeezebox touch owner, I really wanted a DAC/streamer that displayed album art and track info and the Cambridge is one of the few manufactures that supports this.
The stock CXN is not a bad sounding unit, but it's no comparison to a Modwright UDP-205. I had it for a few months before sending it in for upgrade so I was familiar with its sound, and when I received the modded player I was a little underwhelmed. It was better, but not great. I emailed Dan and he said give it some time to fully burn in, and sure enough after about 50 hours it opened up and after 100 or so it really sounded special. (I'm surprised no one else has mentioned burn in.). I still think the UDP-205 sounds better (and it should be given a dedicated power supply and an additional $1000 in upgrade cost), but the modded CXN is very close. It has a very clean, musical sound. It's a keeper for me. :D
Pete
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Peabody have you tried it using the digital out into an outboard DAC? Curious if the upgrades improve the digital output sound or just the DAC.
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I've had the Modwright modified Cambridge CXN for a couple months and thought I'd share my thoughts. I've been a long time Modwright customer, having previously owned the Sony 999ES, Oppo 83, 95, 105 and 205. Each iteration offered a noticeable sonic improvement, with the UDP-205 being the pinnacle in digital sound (IMHO). However, I found that I was rarely listening to disks and wanted to simplify my system so I purchased a stock CXN V2. As a long time squeezebox touch owner, I really wanted a DAC/streamer that displayed album art and track info and the Cambridge is one of the few manufactures that supports this.
The stock CXN is not a bad sounding unit, but it's no comparison to a Modwright UDP-205. I had it for a few months before sending it in for upgrade so I was familiar with its sound, and when I received the modded player I was a little underwhelmed. It was better, but not great. I emailed Dan and he said give it some time to fully burn in, and sure enough after about 50 hours it opened up and after 100 or so it really sounded special. (I'm surprised no one else has mentioned burn in.). I still think the UDP-205 sounds better (and it should be given a dedicated power supply and an additional $1000 in upgrade cost), but the modded CXN is very close. It has a very clean, musical sound. It's a keeper for me. :D
Pete
Thank you for the feedback! That's exactly the type of review I've been hoping to hear.
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I'm taking the plunge! My unit is in flight to WA. :popcorn:
Ok it's being sent Ground, but .. whatever... :lol:
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Pete,
Try a nice matched set of 1974-75 Reflector 6n23p (substitute 6922 tubes) in the modified CXN V2. You'll be in sonic heaven.
NB
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Dan is having a 10% off Spring Sale on CXN and Oppo 205 modifications. Free return shipping too. Don't miss out.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=4044768012254179&id=100001630611649
NB
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Not a bad deal, especially with return shipping.
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Got my mod'd CXN back into the stereo system a few hours ago. I skipped thru some tracks for about 30-40mins, but I had other plans tonight. Gathering my thoughts. I'll give it more listening time soon. I'll report back later.
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I had it for a few months before sending it in for upgrade so I was familiar with its sound, and when I received the modded player I was a little underwhelmed. It was better, but not great. I emailed Dan and he said give it some time to fully burn in, and sure enough after about 50 hours it opened up and after 100 or so it really sounded special.
Pete
I sent my PH 9.0 back to get it upgraded to 9.0X spec (with the upgraded transformers and XLR outputs). When it came back it was not broken in and I did not hear the improvements I was hoping for. I hooked up a reverse RIAA to speed up the burn in process for 100 hours and that did the trick, and with more hours on it now, I am in sonic heaven.
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It happened!
I have about 30hrs of burn in on the unit. Fired up an AC/DC album and wasn't expecting much. (From a production/mixing standpoint it's not gonna be a Floyd album, etc.)
However.. It surprised me. I was listening to a song I've heard many times (Rock and Roll Ain't Noise Pollution) and I heard a new voice at the beginning. Before this I thought it was just a brief pause, but NOPE. There's actually a very quiet voice there in the mix.
It cannot be unheard. I can even hear it now on the laptop speakers! Moments like these make the price of admission worthwhile.
oh yes!!
:thumb:
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CXN V2 mods sound decent out if the box. About 75% at 50 hours. Then nirvana after 125 hours based on my experience.
NB
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Thank you all for your feedback! Our customers say it better than any reviewer!
Dan
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Hello folks
Any European users of Cambridge CXN V2, I seek for option to get 230 volts mods from ModWright, we need to approach to Dan?
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What is the significance of this Cambridge unit having “dual” DACs? What does the second one do?
Other good and even more expensive Dacs or Dac / streamers have one good chip and then focus on the integration/implementation to differentiate the sound.
Thanks!
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I have sourced a power transformer that will fit inside the modified Cambridge, but only one with single 120V primary. I will have to special order a toroidal transformer with dual 120/240V windings that will fit, in order to be able to offer the mod at 240V.
Thanks,
Dan
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The benefit to having two DACs is that they can be configured in mono, one DAC per channel. There are numerous advantages to this, not the least of being improved channel separation.
Thanks,
Dan
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On the modded unit, is the volume control in the analog or digital domain? If it’s digital, how significantly does the sound/resolution get degraded? Thanks!
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VC is in the digital domain and I don't hear any degradation at all!
Dan
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Huh, cool o.k. All that dropping bits stuff must have been older lower resolution systems.
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Apologies if I posted this before and forgot that I did. Cambridge Audio has an official refurb shop where they list items on ebay:
https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=&_ssn=cambridgeaudiousa
and they even have some CXN V2s up right now for $749 w/free shipping.... wow they've sold 231 off the current batch. :o
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Any thoughts about this universal player/streamer, apparently now available in the US?
https://www.reavon.com/reavon-ubr-x200
https://www.zappiti.us.com/shop?Collection=Reavon+blu-ray+players
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Sorry, just saw this. I am not at all familiar with this mfr. I tend to like to modify products from companies that I know and know I can source parts from and have good support.
Having said that, it does look like a solid Universal!
Dan
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The Topping D20SE getting rave reviews appears to be almost identical to the DAC section of the Oppo 205, up to the analog output stage.
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rb, do you mean the D90se?
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rb, do you mean the D90se?
Yes, of course; sorry for not checking my post more carefully.
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I have heard from other sources that Dan has discontinued the Mod for the Cambridge CXN V2.
But the link for the Mod is still there at the Modwright site.
Does anyone here know the story ?
Thanks - Sam
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I just recently (as in a few days ago) paid for the mod to be performed on an CXN V2 that is scheduled to be shipped out by the end of the week. You might want to contact Modwright directly.
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We have discontinued the Cambridge CXN mods due to the fact that we have found Cambridge is completely unwilling to supply us with any parts needed for service that would otherwise be covvered by warranty. We only modify products that we know we will be able to service in the future.
Oppo was quite frankly the best in this regard. We have even been able to service Slim Devices Transporters, which are VERY old, due to availability of parts, albeit not necessarily from Slim Devices/Logitech.
Any product that is too old or for which, we cannot source parts for service, we will not modify.
A few people recently have inquired and we only agreed to modify them with the full knowledge that, beyond our own work, should there be a problem with the stock unit, we cannot service it.
The Analog Bridge is our answer to tube mods for digital products. Starting at $2900, the Analog Bridge is a great answer and it will not become obsolete.
Thanks,
Dan W.
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Dan,
I would be glad to send you an ARCAM ST60 for modding considerations along with the CXN. The ARCAM appears to have ample room inside. The ST60 has the added benefit in the ability to decode MQA which is not possible with the Cambridge.
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Thank you for that, but I honestly don't have the time to develop a new mod right now. I would only do so, if I felt that there was wide demand for mods to that particular player. It is hard to know which players people are really using and it takes time to develop a mod for these players.
If there was a player that I knew was popular, I would consider it.
Thanks,
Dan
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Thanks and your position is understandable.
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We have discontinued the Cambridge CXN mods due to the fact that we have found Cambridge is completely unwilling to supply us with any parts needed for service that would otherwise be covvered by warranty. We only modify products that we know we will be able to service in the future.
Oppo was quite frankly the best in this regard. We have even been able to service Slim Devices Transporters, which are VERY old, due to availability of parts, albeit not necessarily from Slim Devices/Logitech.
Any product that is too old or for which, we cannot source parts for service, we will not modify.
A few people recently have inquired and we only agreed to modify them with the full knowledge that, beyond our own work, should there be a problem with the stock unit, we cannot service it.
The Analog Bridge is our answer to tube mods for digital products. Starting at $2900, the Analog Bridge is a great answer and it will not become obsolete.
Thanks,
Dan W.
Hi Dan,
I am sorry to hear Cambridge is unwilling to work with you to replace faulty parts. I thought you had come to an agreement with them, but I guess they decided to change their position on the matter.
Greg
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So happy to receive one of the last MODWRIGHT units. :D Thanks Dan, Kirsten and crew.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=251729)
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I tried multiple times to reach out to Cambridge, just to determine that we could purchase parts to service the products, completely void of factory warranty. I have been able to source parts for every other product we have worked on, but not Cambridge. They simply told me that they do not sell parts at all, and they can only be serviced by their factory authorized service centers. Too bad because it is a great unit!
The Analog Bridge is my answer to pretty much all tube mods at this point. It can be fed analog signal from any Digital source, has two inputs, and is available also with a fully balanced in and out option.
Thanks,
Dan