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Title: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 28 Apr 2007, 01:20 am
First of all allow me to introduce myself as the latest addition to the ODYSSEY GROUP!!! I am from the Ontario chapter and I figure I probably represent ALL of Huron County????A newbeeeee,in p.a. gear,NO,in ODYSSEY,yes.My cousin (bryston,pmc)said to give KLAUS A TRY.(CAPS STUCK).SO HERE I AM, WITH MY HT-3 PILOTING MY PARADIGMS(STUDIO 40,470),but my 60s are looking for a pair of MONO EXTREMES (from an  original owner) to show my dedication to the Odyssey group.Klaus has made me feel right at home and i hope u will also.With a mix of AC-DC,Bill Haley & the Comets,The Kingbees,Colin James,to Eminem,Nelly,& Outkast, the list goes on,I sit and listen!A test,I suppose and does the HT-3 pass,you bet!!!But in stereo my Servo-15 cries the MONO EXTREME call.so if anyone is looking to sell,allow me to give them a warm welcome.Thanks for listening.
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 28 Apr 2007, 11:37 am
so i was up half the night listening to my HT-3(until my wife came home), then i went home theatre,i noticed the HT was very hot,is this normal?
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: rosconey on 28 Apr 2007, 03:35 pm
3 amps in 1 case will run hot-
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 28 Apr 2007, 04:26 pm
true but only running in stereo?
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: rosconey on 28 Apr 2007, 05:05 pm
its still a real tight fit-heat sinks can only work just so fast
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: bunky on 28 Apr 2007, 05:54 pm
its still a real tight fit-heat sinks can only work just so fast
I Agree !
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 28 Apr 2007, 07:41 pm
hi guys, another ? agon has a set of 250w x-tremes,i am not familure but are just what i am looking for!!!Klaus is gone for 2wks,anyone know this amp???
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: rosconey on 28 Apr 2007, 07:48 pm
grab them if you can aa


those are the extreme extreme version of the mono extremes- :drool:very rare indeed

Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: bunky on 28 Apr 2007, 07:52 pm
I saw them on Agon too and the description sounded like the Mono Extreme SE's
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 28 Apr 2007, 07:56 pm
don't even think about it  GRRRRR!!!! are they the allmightys?
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: rosconey on 28 Apr 2007, 08:02 pm
they are klaus's top dog-

kraft are the next step
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 28 Apr 2007, 08:05 pm
KRAFT?
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: bpape on 28 Apr 2007, 08:08 pm
I have a pair of the SE/Extreme version of the Extremes.  I'm very pleased with them - they did everything I needed in my system and did it in spades. 

Kraft is the name of the amp from Symphonic Line which Klaus also carries.

http://www.symphonic-line.com/

Bryan
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: rosconey on 28 Apr 2007, 08:09 pm
dont go there unless you like to move 400lb amps :nono:and a wallet to match

they are from the german company klaus gets his amp design from-
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 28 Apr 2007, 08:14 pm
you guys are killing me,i did respond to ad but i havent heard nothinb back? is that a good price? how long has Klaus been building them for?
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: bunky on 28 Apr 2007, 09:13 pm
you guys are killing me,i did respond to ad but i havent heard nothinb back? is that a good price? how long has Klaus been building them for?
Disclaimer* they dont really exist on paper at least ,but a few people are sporting Hot rodded parts under thier Hoods including yours Truly  :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 28 Apr 2007, 10:30 pm
still hav'nt heard nothing..........HOLD ON....E-MAIL....YEEESSS..well not yet but i got his # & we'll talk tomorrow! i still dont know much more on the specs but am interested if someone can give all of them away?
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: sirquack on 28 Apr 2007, 10:48 pm
bunky did you not get my PM I sent you a few days back? :)
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 28 Apr 2007, 11:10 pm
i would like to say hi to spirit.
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: bunky on 28 Apr 2007, 11:48 pm
bunky did you not get my PM I sent you a few days back? :)
You Have Mail  :wink:
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: Spirit on 29 Apr 2007, 03:51 am
i would like to say hi to spirit.
Hi to you as well - do I know you?
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: Haoleb on 29 Apr 2007, 04:02 am
when i saw the ad on agon my first thought was the Full Gary's although the seller doesnt mention that.
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 29 Apr 2007, 08:19 am
hypathetically,if the mono X se's were built in the last year,are they worth $2400?     P.S.  no you dont know me Spirit BUT if your Canadian ,live near TO,and own Odyssey,I'm sure we will talk?   Yes it is really late,so i hope that someone who owns a pair will advise me on price & perfomence.THANKS
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: Wizard454 on 30 Apr 2007, 01:43 am
Hello Mclsound,

I also have a pair of the Hot Rodded Extreme SE's. They have been up and running since June and are being driven by a SF Line 2 SE+ preamp done up by Chris Johnson about 6 months ago, source's are Cary CD-308 solid state CDP (stock) and a Sony 333ES (stock). The amps are driving a pair of Paradigm 60v's and can state with confidence these speakers "Never" sounded better! Smooth, detailed, great mids, solid bottom end.
I also have a Servo-15 in the mix, as this is a self powered sub your comment about it crying out for Odyssey power confuses me (although I could be misunderstanding your commit). I will say my Servo-15 did benefit greatly by the huge upgrade in the preamp. In truth the 60v's don't really need the sub as the introduction of the Extremes and upgraded pre have married well and brought tremendous, accurrate bottom end to the system.
If you can get a pair of these they are well worth the price!

P.s. I'm in Vancouver.
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 30 Apr 2007, 03:52 am
yes,a slight misunderstanding,In STEREO right now,i am using my 40's with a pinch of Servo-15.i figured that the Mono's (X-S.E.) WOULD blend well with 60's.i did not no about SE's,but now that i do,WELL,i must have!!original owner kinda a must in my world,and Canadian would be a bonus.
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 3 May 2007, 01:58 am
well 2 days on the dozer and i can hardly contain myself----- i am the PROUD ''OWNER'' of a pair of 1yr old MONO EXTREMES S.E.  I am sending them straight to Klaus for a full monty(a complete tune up). if anyone has any other suggestions i would love to hear them!
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: rosconey on 3 May 2007, 02:14 pm
wtf dont you just enjoy them for a while :scratch:
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: Lkdog on 3 May 2007, 04:19 pm
wtf dont you just enjoy them for a while :scratch:


 :D

Good advice. Since I got my Mono Extremes I am going through my whole collection of music.
Sounds wonderful and like different recordings.


It cannot hurt to have them looked at, but I doubt there is much tuning up to do on a one year old pair.
These things are built like tanks.
Have fun!
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: HPower on 3 May 2007, 04:24 pm

It looks like I have created a MONSTER.

 :o
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: Lkdog on 3 May 2007, 05:04 pm

It looks like I have created a MONSTER.

 :o


 :lol:   :lol:
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 4 May 2007, 12:42 am
20yrs in a rock band,10,000watt PA,8--18inch JBL,4-15inch mids,4-2inch compression drivers, I think the monster was always there,BUT you definitely helped release it!!!! My next question will have to be some advise(once again)on a good stereo pre ??? I am currently using a PIONEER ELITE 84 reciever because it is what my wife can use & it can run my surrounds.BUT ,the MONO's should have a good pre or pro????   LOOK FORWARD TO ALL ADVISE   THANKS
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: Lkdog on 4 May 2007, 07:02 am
A lot of people use a tube preamp with the Odyssey amps.
If you do a search or go back through the threads here you will see a lot about this.

Klaus has the Candela which people here love.

I will defer to others with more experience on combinations they have tried.
My setup is in my signature and is working well for me.
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: HPower on 5 May 2007, 02:39 am
JM, put the mouse down and slowly back away from the computer :lol:

Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 5 May 2007, 11:05 am
good morning,my first week,not only purchased my first pair of Mono Xse's but their headed back to the creator for any and all updates!no rush, i still have a long way to go on renovations...(T.C.,I CANT)----Pre,i will go into reaserch mode for awhile,
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 6 May 2007, 03:29 pm
UPGRADED UPGRADES,or as I come to call them,Bryston Busters,we'll see,Mike & Klaus will work their magic inside,but what about the outside? anyone tried Burgandy (i like red) or do u think it's a little cheesey. hard to tell with website pics. anybody get any colours?(my wife likes blue) Thanks

Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: bunky on 6 May 2007, 04:05 pm
UPGRADED UPGRADES,or as I come to call them,Bryston Busters,we'll see,Mike & Klaus will work their magic inside,but what about the outside? anyone tried Burgandy (i like red) or do u think it's a little cheesey. hard to tell with website pics. anybody get any colours?(my wife likes blue) Thanks


I prefer the Basic Stealthy looking Black ,but i have seen photos of a Copper colored Khartago on Audiogon that looked really nice. get a Candela tube preamplifier colored to match your Monos while you are at it
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 6 May 2007, 05:14 pm
just seen red on agon virtual,looks?silver looks good(wife says?)she likes black.
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: Boogaloo on 6 May 2007, 06:44 pm
I have a Dual Mono in platinum that I like.  Finish on the Symphonic Line RG-7 http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampstran&1181086031 (http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampstran&1181086031) looks like it.
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 6 May 2007, 08:32 pm
i never even thought of platinum!! it does look cool.if anyone has a Odyssey platinum shot would be apprieciated.
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: Boogaloo on 6 May 2007, 10:42 pm
Platinum is like a chrome mirror - everything in the background shows up, just like the Symphonic Line amp
on agon.  This makes it almost impossible to photograph without any projected images showing up.
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 6 May 2007, 10:55 pm
is it really as good as pics? if so, yes!!!
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: Boogaloo on 7 May 2007, 05:57 pm
You'll have to ask Klaus, but I don't see any difference.
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 10 May 2007, 09:46 pm
well,my newest addition should almost be there(E me when they arrive please Mike)and Klaus should be back soon,so we can create the meanest pair of mono's ever to come out of ODYSSEY.These babies are going to go up against some serious competition,hence my new found name--THE BRYSTON BUSTERS.I am looking forward to blessing my studio 60's with some serious Ted Nugent,Blackfoot,and Molly Hatchet,and if they can't handle it, I will find me something that will!!!    the adventure continues??
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: bunky on 10 May 2007, 10:40 pm
well,my newest addition should almost be there(E me when they arrive please Mike)and Klaus should be back soon,so we can create the meanest pair of mono's ever to come out of ODYSSEY.These babies are going to go up against some serious competition,hence my new found name--THE BRYSTON BUSTERS.I am looking forward to blessing my studio 60's with some serious Ted Nugent,Blackfoot,and Molly Hatchet,and if they can't handle it, I will find me something that will!!!    the adventure continues??
I own a pair of Ref 100 v3's and my Original Khartago monoblocks were capable driving them to very uncomfortable Spl's. Brystons seem dry and clinical to me but some folks like them.you are in for a real treat.have fun....WCW III
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 10 May 2007, 11:44 pm
i am alabout trying different combinations,but if one works,why change it? i have alot to learn and will not stop till my ears say so.So as long as i indulge in audio i will keep in touch and tell how it is!!!!
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 13 May 2007, 11:08 am
it's good to see u back Klaus.my S.E.'s are in the Fedex truck right there &should be there Monday.
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 15 May 2007, 08:45 pm
well its a rain day,so now i am installing 4--15amp/hospital grade outlets ,the monos & HT-3 will get separate plugs.my wife shakes her head!!  Klaus wants me to measure voltage at outlets????
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: bunky on 15 May 2007, 09:21 pm
well its a rain day,so now i am installing 4--15amp/hospital grade outlets ,the monos & HT-3 will get separate plugs.my wife shakes her head!!  Klaus wants me to measure voltage at outlets????
Klaus wants to know the exact voltage that you are getting from your outlets so that he can fine tune the bias setting on each monoblock.power fluctuates quite a bit and if he knows what you have he can adjust the bias pots accordingly. :thumb:
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 15 May 2007, 11:16 pm
a solid sound u must have, how much load will they handle(2ohm??)(mono or X).
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 19 May 2007, 02:25 am
red boards,green boards,the difference is????exactly how old is the red board?? i now have tried to purchase a couple of different amps to complete my 7.1,funny thing is they all say ,"it's 2yrs old",but ends up being 3yrs or more..now my HT-3 is 2.5yrs old with red boards, u ask me anything about my eqipment and i will tell u the truth!!!!! i now know that u have to dig into the audio history of your product with the seller,because they act dumb!!!!!!! how can u buy $8-$10,000 amps and not know what u have???  i may not know it all,BUT i know what i want..so when someone acts dumb ,GRRRRRRRRRR,it's my money and i will protect my investment.
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 19 May 2007, 10:15 am
does anyone know the difference--red/green boards?
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: bunky on 19 May 2007, 11:58 am
does anyone know the difference--red/green boards?
Karl DL a Electrical Engineer friend of mine posted this on Jan 3 2005   Red boards look more "contemporary",Green are more "retro", my old Stratos got the "redboard" treatment when it was matched to a new second unit recently, curiousity got the better of me so i opened it up today and went searching for changes. the drivers were changed(2SD1763A & 2SB1186A) to(2SC4793 & 2SA1837) predrivers were changed (2SA1124 & 2SC2842) to (2SC4793 & 2SA1837) and the operating point of the input stage was changed (quiesent collector currents were increased by a factor of 250%) the drivers base resistors were increased which shifts the bias voltages around a little between the driver and predriver. bias and offset potentiometers were changed from single turn to ten turn which makes thier adjustment much easier( for Odyssey and us tweakers ) not having red and green in the same place at the same time, i cant say anything comparatively about thier sonics. i was happy with the green and now i am happy with the red.    Karl
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 19 May 2007, 04:46 pm
thank u for that response Bunky,sonics are just part of our adventures we take down the audio road. we also need a good investment,good looks and good managability.
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 20 May 2007, 02:57 am
just ordered NEW MONOS!!
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 20 May 2007, 04:05 am
my 7.1 Odyssey system is finally complete.  The first of a kind in Huron County. now comes the fun part,fitting them in my ent. unit.
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 22 May 2007, 12:05 am
does anyone stack their amps,if so ,how many and had any problems?
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: djbnh on 22 May 2007, 01:56 am
does anyone stack their amps,if so ,how many and had any problems?
Interesting question. I believe I've read in the Odyssey forum that stacking was ok.

An alternate point of view comes from Mr. A.J. van den Hul's website (http://www.vandenhul.com/artpap/hifi_tipshints.htm#Part-4) [FYI - once you click the link, you'll have to scroll down the page a bit to get to #3-1. Additionally, when the reader clicks the link and scrolls to the bottom of the page, you'll note topics are sequenced according to equipment category - there's a wealth of information on the site.].
Quote from: A.J. van den Hul
3-1  It is better not to stack equipment on top of each other

Electrical equipment plays better when all devices are put separate instead of stacking them on top of each other. One reason is that stacking causes extra hum due to magnetic (stray) field emission from poor quality transformers. Even the better types of transformers can produce extra hum in other equipment.
Another reason is that piling up equipment impedes the free flow of air around and through equipment, which for cooling is especially required with power amplifiers and class A operating devices. Too high operating temperatures reduce lifespan, also see 3-6.

So, there's different ways to look at this. I personally don't stack my Extreme Mono's, and others on the forums may do the opposite. Regarding the "free air flow" piece of the 2nd quotation, I'm not sure this is an issue with Klaus' mono amps.

Anyway, best of luck with your decision making.
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: Vr3 on 22 May 2007, 01:59 am
Stacking the Stratos line up should be fine - 5 or 6 if you wanted to, with two massive heat sinks on each side ---- stacking them should make no difference since the heat is transferred out of the case.
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 22 May 2007, 06:22 am
now that is an excellent quote! although i may be in a small pickle for a bit and may not have a choice....it is 2 oclock in the morn. and i hear a slight buzzsound coming out of my speakers and all power is off accept my ht-3? i have recently installed 4 separate outlets.....possible ground loop?
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: bunky on 22 May 2007, 10:21 am
Stacking the Stratos line up should be fine - 5 or 6 if you wanted to, with two massive heat sinks on each side ---- stacking them should make no difference since the heat is transferred out of the case.
i think that even if it is not a heat issue you should give your monoblocks a little space so that the field generated from the transformers in one monoblock do not possibly interact with the other one and its circuits.talk to Klaus or Alex G and see what thier opinion is on the subject. thanks....WCW III
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 26 May 2007, 01:51 am
well i just received word that my (not mine anymore)money has been recEIved,one step closer!!!!!! i hope i will be as happy as KEN? ialso seen a canadian listing for a TEMPEST,not sure if it has a HT bypass?need that option! would it be a easy fix ,anyone know??THANKS  JOHN
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: Bigfish on 26 May 2007, 02:00 am
My wife and I watched a DVD Movie tonight and the Mono SEs were driving the front L and R speakers.  The sounds from the speakers are so distinct and crisp.  Unfortunately, I think I will need an amp for the  Center Channel Speaker.  I was really happy with my Denon 3806 AVR for HT until today.  I guess I am finally experiencing the world of high performance audio.    :lol:

Ken
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: TomS on 26 May 2007, 02:01 am
My wife and I watched a DVD Movie tonight and the Mono SEs were driving the front L and R speakers.  The sounds from the speakers are so distinct and crisp.  Unfortunately, I think I will need an amp for the  Center Channel Speaker.  I was really happy with my Denon 3806 AVR for HT until today.  I guess I am finally experiencing the world of high performance audio.    :lol:

Ken
Well, the 3-channel Stratos will take of the center and 2 surrounds.  Or maybe a third SE for the center would be sweet!
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: Haoleb on 26 May 2007, 02:03 am
well i just received word that my (not mine anymore)money has been recEIved,one step closer!!!!!! i hope i will be as happy as KEN? ialso seen a canadian listing for a TEMPEST,not sure if it has a HT bypass?need that option! would it be a easy fix ,anyone know??THANKS  JOHN

Doesnt have HT bypass. I am also talking to the seller on this preamp as it may soon be mine  :thumb:
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 26 May 2007, 02:28 am
u bugger(good luck),thats ok i need HT bypass.   KEN,u have to stop ,your killing me with all of this awsome audio talk!SOON i will be rolling around like a kitty with catnip!!!!!!!!  my HT-3 works great on my speakers.    CHOW  John
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: zzzone1 on 26 May 2007, 05:52 pm
Hey MCLSOUND....welcome...I had to pull out a map to check out your Huron claim...lol....I'm probably one of the few in Dufferin,(Orangeville area) and keep my boat in Grey...(Georgian Bay)...you're just around the peninsula....lol I think I mite have been one of the first canaians who had one of the first sets of Lorelei's...my only claim to Odyssey fame....hahaha

Enjoy your gear it's amazing....
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 26 May 2007, 10:10 pm
hi ZZ,i have been working in Newmarket for the last year and drive through Orangeville to go home,would love to hear your system some day? i have never heard a Tempest before or Loreleis..... i have cousins in Owen Sound,small world!!
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 27 May 2007, 01:11 pm
i have been in communicoto with several Odyssey owners,a statement came up,tube pre in fall/winter and solid in sping/summer, reasons are HEAT ,makes sense,i work outside on a bulldozer(no AC)so i hate heat!!!!!!!! i have a Anthem AVM-30 coming,anyone tried one ,what is the stereo pre like in comparison to a Tempest for the solid state end of things,(it is an unfortunate issue that we have to buy certain products just to try in our own system to judge it's compatabillity for our ears & gear.)i do own a Luxman turntable and several albums(never use) but for now AVM-30/TEMPEST comparo....anyone???     John
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: bunky on 27 May 2007, 01:43 pm
i have been in communicoto with several Odyssey owners,a statement came up,tube pre in fall/winter and solid in sping/summer, reasons are HEAT ,makes sense,i work outside on a bulldozer(no AC)so i hate heat!!!!!!!! i have a Anthem AVM-30 coming,anyone tried one ,what is the stereo pre like in comparison to a Tempest for the solid state end of things,(it is an unfortunate issue that we have to buy certain products just to try in our own system to judge it's compatabillity for our ears & gear.)i do own a Luxman turntable and several albums(never use) but for now AVM-30/TEMPEST comparo....anyone???     John
John,I dont know who you have been communicating with but i have had three tube preamplifiers in my two channel rig and the Anthem Pre 1L that i have was barely warm to the touch and the BAT VK3i that i have was just slightly warm to the touch And my Candela is absolutely cool to the touch with my hand on the case placed directly over the tubes.
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 28 May 2007, 06:34 am
well i wasn't saying they get smokin hot,just a change ,like switching around your furniture....has anyone compaired a ANTHEM AVM-30 to a TEMPEST or TEMPEST EXTREME?
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: DMi on 30 May 2007, 11:51 pm
I have owned an Anthem for quite a while coupled to SE's and a HT-3 recently. I have not had the chance to compare it to a Tempest but I have had the chance to compare it to a lot of other surround processors and to a lot of other pre-amps. The sound quality is right up there with the very best. You can spend a lot more but you'll have a hard time matching it without spending at least twice the price.

As far as the Odyssey pre-amps go, I suspect the Candela would be the choice if you were needing a tube fix. I hear you can order one with a bypass so you can listen to your 2 channel without the processor and your movies running through the Anthem. I have no experience with these so I imagine them to work like a CJ pre-amp with it's bypass. Ultimate listening for both worlds, movie and two channel. I'm certain Klaus will oblige. :)

Doug
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 31 May 2007, 12:35 am
thanks Doug,actually i am going to do just that,i just ordered a Candela for 2-ch &AVM-30 for HT. what speakers and cables do u use? do u bi-wire?
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 31 May 2007, 11:07 pm
so i gave Klaus the go-ahead on a candela,i was going to buy the Tempest in agon,but he wasn't going to ship to Klaus,now he will,toooo late!!  i should be receiving my new amps soon,then i will have to think about a good CD player???? any suggestions in around $500-750 (maybe used lightly)?????   John
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: DMi on 31 May 2007, 11:57 pm
thanks Doug,actually i am going to do just that,i just ordered a Candela for 2-ch &AVM-30 for HT. what speakers and cables do u use? do u bi-wire?

The speaker cables are all home made, bi-wired all around. They are made out of Canare Star Quad S11 professional sound cable and are bi-wired with locking banana plugs all around, dressed with pants and flex covering. Fronts are Magneplaner 1.6QR, Center is a Radia from BG Corp, Rears are Epos M5. I'm using a SVS 16-46 PC-Plus for the sub right now... don't laugh. The room is 35' square and the audio stuff is in the living room space.

With the bi-wire I do notice a bit more midrange clarity that way and overall wire is 11 gauge. The rears runs go under the floor and are the longest runs at about 35' per channel.

Your really going to enjoy the setup you're building. It's always fun to bring someone in used to stuff like Bose and Sony to knock their socks right off! The stereo end of things sounds tremendous and movies pack a wallop if they have a good sound track.

Doug
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 1 Jun 2007, 12:32 am
hi Doug,u have quite a list of goodies,i am currently working on building my own speaker setup consisting of a top cabinet(2-10"RCF and a 1"RCF compression driver/horn---600watts/cabinet)and a bottom sub cabinets(1-18"JBL/side) all powered by ODYSSEY(1-HT3 and 4-MONO EXTREMES S.E.)   crazy,i know!!        John
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: zzzone1 on 1 Jun 2007, 05:18 pm
Hey MCL, sorry for the time lapse in response, Ive been out of province. I'm sure we could hook something up if you want to check out the Lori's. Sounds like you're getting in on a higher level which is just awesome. I live right off hwy 109 which turns into Broadway St in Orangeville. It's the road that runs from Arthur to Orangeville. Just let me know if you want to check them out.

Russ
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: Bigfish on 1 Jun 2007, 05:29 pm
John:

You ask for a CD Player recommendation in your thread above.  When I joined this Circle in March many people recommended I consider a Squeezebox and have it modded versus using a CDP.  I took their advice and purchased a Squeezebox 3.  I purchased a linear power supply for it this week and will be sending it along with the Squeezebox to Wayne of Boulder for Mods.  Others on this board believe a modified Squeezebox, using the analog outs directly to the amps or to the preamp, will equal a high end CDP connected to a DAC.  Due to the convenience of the Squeezebox (I can access my entire CD Library from my chair) I am going the moded Squeezebox route versus DAC/CDP. 

Congratulations on your amps and preamps.  I received my last week and I am still amazed at the sound difference versus what I was obtaining from the Denon 3806 AVR.

Good Luck,

Ken
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: DMi on 2 Jun 2007, 12:31 am
hi Doug,u have quite a list of goodies,i am currently working on building my own speaker setup consisting of a top cabinet(2-10"RCF and a 1"RCF compression driver/horn---600watts/cabinet)and a bottom sub cabinets(1-18"JBL/side) all powered by ODYSSEY(1-HT3 and 4-MONO EXTREMES S.E.)   crazy,i know!!        John

Sounds like you're going for maximum SPL or working in an auditorium. :) I'd certain agree with the crazy part. :) Gee whiz John... don't hurt yourself! I haven't dealt with drivers like that since I used to do a little band amplification in the 70's.

Doug
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 2 Jun 2007, 12:34 am
hi guys,thanks for your congrates,first of all ,RUSS,i am currently working at Richmondhill,so i take the 401 home,but i will soon be back in Newmarket,then i go through Orgnvl to Arther,i will send u my phone# and go from there......Ken,i hope u are really enjoying because when i get my amps i am going to hook up the used pair(they are already broke in) and see what their made of..!!!after a long hot week ,nothing beats a little AC/DC coming out of a pair MONO--X/SE.........as far as a sqeezebox ,i am absolutly not sure what it is ,or looks like,any info or links would be appreciated............NOW these speakers i am working on are going to be made out of 1.5"MFD and a friend i know is a body man so he can paint them (he is an artist also)with a flex additive(used in paint for plastic automotive parts)and a super thick clearcoat(3x as thick),a modified entertainment cabinet will be my next task??? i will take any and all adviseand experiences!!              thanks John
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 2 Jun 2007, 12:44 am
hi DOUG,I HAVE all these speakers from my PA ,so i will put them to good use, a good set of asskickin speakers(REVEL,B&W,WILSON,VON SCHWEIKERT,PMC)will cost $5-$10,000 used!!   so i will create my own ART & AUDIO.    John
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 4 Jun 2007, 08:31 am
is anyone familular with the ATOLL CD-100(demo at$600)thanks John
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 5 Jun 2007, 10:19 pm
just found out my new SE's are on the burn'in board as we speak, i was pretty laid back about the wait,but now i know i will have them hooked up by next wknd.     JOHN
is anyone familular with the ATOLL CD-100(demo at$600)thanks John
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 9 Jun 2007, 05:15 pm
has anyone hooked up both XLR(Anthem AVM-30) & RCA(Pioneer Elite receiver) at the same time?       John
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 10 Jun 2007, 02:12 am
does the candela have both RCA & XLR for all inputs and outputs?  John
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: bunky on 10 Jun 2007, 11:51 am
does the candela have both RCA & XLR for all inputs and outputs?  John
The Candela has single ended RCA's
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 10 Jun 2007, 12:52 pm
thanks Bunky,is XLR not considered better??   what is better??
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: bunky on 10 Jun 2007, 01:09 pm
thanks Bunky,is XLR not considered better??   what is better??
On long runs of IC cable Xlr could have an advantage, but i dont run a balanced system or long IC's so for me it is a moot point. thanks....WCW III
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: Bigfish on 10 Jun 2007, 01:16 pm
Bunky:

What do you consider long runs of IC's?  I arranged my Mono SEs on the sides of the racks behind the speakers.  I purchased and use 6' ICs (made by Klaus) to run from the Candela to the amps.

Ken
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: bpape on 10 Jun 2007, 01:34 pm
Balanced only works 'better' on long noisy runs AND if both amps and preamp have truly balanced circuitry to convert between the standards.  Many just tie the 2 + pins together (or even just leave 1 disconnected).  In my HT setup, my main runs to the front for LCR and sub are approx 38' and both ends are balanced properly.  For less than 10', it's likely not necessary and even longer than that if the preamp will drive the longer cable.

Bryan
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 10 Jun 2007, 02:27 pm
thanks guys,another ? ,if my wife wants to watch TV ,does Candela have to be on when in HT bypass mode,or will she simply have to turn on the Pioneer Elite and go???   thanks   John
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: Bigfish on 10 Jun 2007, 04:59 pm
John:

When I am using my Denon 3806 for HT I set the Candela to HT and turn it off.  I seem to get great HT sound!

Ken
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 10 Jun 2007, 05:01 pm
thanks Ken
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 15 Jun 2007, 02:03 am
YES,THERE ON THEIR WAY!!!!!!!!!It's been a long patiant wait ,but they are on route and i am ready.... a total of 4, yes 4 MONO EXTREME S.E.'s.... to make a total of 7 channels(also have a HT-3).... i cant wait to tackle the infamous break in time(fortunately 1 pair is used,so i can charge up and then push PLAY!!!).........John
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: Bigfish on 15 Jun 2007, 02:05 am
You are in for audio bliss!

Congratulations!

Ken
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 23 Jun 2007, 12:48 am
son of a b#%*^,my amps are at fedex customs(sumtin like dat)and they need stuff?????????????????   anyone familular with the next step......it is because they exceed $1600 so stuff has to be done?  thanks bummed out JOHN
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: Wolfman on 23 Jun 2007, 02:41 am
mclsound,
They may need import documentation. I've thought Fed Ex would've been big enough to handle any customs needs,could be that there's documents needed from Klaus. I had an amp shipped to me from Canada and I had to find a broker to handle the paperwork needed as I changed trucking companies at the border. There was a bunch I had to fill out and return to the broker,took some time. Not sure if this is the same situation or not,has this come up previously?
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 23 Jun 2007, 09:48 pm
hi Wolfman,called Klaus,waiting to hear back.    thanks John
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: Wolfman on 25 Jun 2007, 11:49 pm
Hey John,
More and more "t"s to cross and "i"s to dot these days. Let us know how this turns out as I would be interested in learning more about cross border shipping requirements.
Good luck!
Kirby
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: Bigfish on 26 Jun 2007, 01:10 am
John:

Your situation is a real bummer!  Good luck on getting the amps released soon.

Ken
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 26 Jun 2007, 01:55 am
just got off the phone from Klaus, all's well,they will fax a document to sign,i will fax back and should be playing this long weekend when i get home......Klaus took care of it!!!!!!!!!!!!!   280lbs of pure salonium dynamite,so close i can smell the pungent aroma of CAP.....thanks for your concerns guys,i will let you know what they do to me ......thanks John
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 28 Jun 2007, 12:59 am
ok,i think my patience has worn thin,i am not predjudice but first of all they should have people who can speak english fluently when a mans amps are only 20mins away,secondly they should never cut you off when speaking,not once but twice in a row,and why are they contacting REVENUE CANADA,is this normal?????????        thanks jumpin JOHN
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: dilznoofus on 28 Jun 2007, 02:08 am
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Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 2 Jul 2007, 12:19 am
finally my babies have arrived.....

(http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?action=gallery;area=browse;album=1121&pos=11)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?action=gallery;area=browse;album=1121&pos=9)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?action=gallery;area=browse;album=1121&pos=10)

a long ways to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thanks John
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 2 Jul 2007, 12:21 am
oops its in my gallery and i don't know how to put on the pictures.
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 2 Jul 2007, 12:50 pm
ok,i got the pictures in my gallery but i can't get them on here so if anyone can help me?What an experience that was with customs,but there here and getting a good workout,my used S.E.'s crank,the sound is full and well lets just say "they will move the room",    my Bryston Busters are, at a glance,no different than any  other Stratus block amp on the outside but inside is my very own personal nuke.......so true,out of the box they sound like sh**,so for 24hrs a day they will be playing at different volumes......break in time sucks!!!!                 thanks John
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 9 Jul 2007, 12:04 am
one week,24hrs a day of music and i can go from 3 to 4 on the volume,is that right?......thanks John
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 14 Jul 2007, 12:57 am
hi guys,well i have been running my Busters for over 400hrs(when i get home Sat. nite)24hrs a day for 17 days straight.i am very excited, i have a Bryston 14bsst given to me this wknd,a Ashley FET2000, and a pile of cd's,it's going to be a true test. also my results will be absolutely the truth. i will use my Anthem AVM-30 and a Mark Levison pre(not sure which model till Sat. nite).i also have 2pr of Audiometallurgy G-0 with WBT locking RCA. Look for my results Sunday or Monday,i think you will be surprised ,not only at what i have to say but what i have to show you! thanks John
Title: Re: Odyssey in Ontario
Post by: mclsound on 17 Jul 2007, 01:50 am
well a few extra functions came up,so next wknd,UNLESS i get a rain day,should have results,i did however get a RAYSONIC CD128,has anyone tried out this tubed canadian marvel?????  thanks john