BDA-2 power on issue

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bcugk

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BDA-2 power on issue
« on: 15 Oct 2023, 05:15 pm »
I also posted on the Bryston Facebook page


Hi All,
Well dang, my first issue with a piece of my Bryston gear and I have many
BDA-2 - power button was being a bit finicky but always turned on
Today is was more so
But it did power after many button pushes and I fed its usb from my iPad Pro for a couple hours
It suddenly lost connection, no pop, no smoke smell lol
It wouldn’t power off nor accept any input buttons
I unplugged for an hour and now it won’t turn on, only have red light
Date code 1331
Thoughts?
Does this have the 20 year warranty
Thanks

R. Daneel

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Re: BDA-2 power on issue
« Reply #1 on: 23 Oct 2023, 11:29 am »
Hi!

Hasn't anyone answered this one for you yet?

No, only analogue products are guaranteed for twenty years. Digital products are guaranteed for five years.

I have had a similar problem with my BDA-2. Sometimes, while in standby, it was impossible to turn it ON. The problem would mysteriously disappear when uunplegged from the outlet but would sometimes return. Even after weeks of troubleshooting, I wasn't able to determine with certainty what was causing it. I did, however, notice the issue would arise more frequently while USB was the selected input.

Thanks to the late Chris Russel, Bryston replaced it with a new one. Because my specific BDA-2 was built-to-order, with four RCA S/DIF inputs instead of 2, Mr. Russel made sure the new unit was exactly the same. I am really very sorry he passed.

I have read about similar problems with the earlier BDA-1 units so the malfunction you are experiencing is not unheard of.

The reason I always insist on the equipment to work perfectly is because if there are problems while the equipment is new, it can only get worse as time moves on. This is precisely what has happened to your unit. Apparently, Bryston can perform board-level repairs which means they might be able to replace the component that's failed or is behaving erratically, without replacing the board. Because BDA-2 is discontinued, it is questionable whether a new board is even available. I recommend you send a PM directly to James Tanner here on Audio Circle. He is the CEO and might be able to help.

Please report back, I want to know how this goes for you.

Cheers - Antun

bcugk

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Re: BDA-2 power on issue
« Reply #2 on: 23 Oct 2023, 04:38 pm »
thanks, and no responses yet other than yours.

update, it powers on now (after a few pushes), it changes inputs after a few pushes, but outputs zero sound from any input selection.

i even checked my preamp BP25P for sound by using my turntable and all is well with it.

no such luck with getting a free replacment lol but i am working with Bryston regarding an upgrade to a BDA3

R. Daneel

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Re: BDA-2 power on issue
« Reply #3 on: 24 Oct 2023, 10:12 am »
thanks, and no responses yet other than yours.

update, it powers on now (after a few pushes), it changes inputs after a few pushes, but outputs zero sound from any input selection.

i even checked my preamp BP25P for sound by using my turntable and all is well with it.

no such luck with getting a free replacment lol but i am working with Bryston regarding an upgrade to a BDA3

Hi!

It would be great if they could arrange for a discount on the BDA-3 for you, presuming BDA-3 is what you really want.

There's a version of BDA-3 without HDMI inputs which, if you don't need them, might save you some money too.

The malfunction you're describing seems like a serious one as the device is now basically useless. So, basically none of the inputs now work? Nor S/PDIF nor USB?

Cheers - Antun

bcugk

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Re: BDA-2 power on issue
« Reply #4 on: 24 Oct 2023, 11:31 am »
Hi,

Absolutlely zero audio from either usb from Ipad pro, AES from BDP-1, coax from CD transport.

The suspicion is motherboard, a real shame since the damn thing is in mint cosmetic condition.

I do own several SACD's but i don't see much use for the HDMI in a 2 channel arrangement other than those?

Although having them vs not might impact resale value if i do that down the road

In the case of DVD-A and Bluray audio, i understand i would output from the players coax into the BDA-3 for 96 or 192khz audio?

Thanks for your assistance Antun

Derek

R. Daneel

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Re: BDA-2 power on issue
« Reply #5 on: 25 Oct 2023, 12:53 pm »
Hi,

Absolutlely zero audio from either usb from Ipad pro, AES from BDP-1, coax from CD transport.

The suspicion is motherboard, a real shame since the damn thing is in mint cosmetic condition.

I do own several SACD's but i don't see much use for the HDMI in a 2 channel arrangement other than those?

Although having them vs not might impact resale value if i do that down the road

In the case of DVD-A and Bluray audio, i understand i would output from the players coax into the BDA-3 for 96 or 192khz audio?

Thanks for your assistance Antun

Derek

Hi Derek!

I am sorry to hear that, mate.

It's impossible for me to say what the problem is. BDA-2 uses the SRC4392 as for both up-sampling and as a S/PDIF input receiver but it uses an XMOS for USB. Perhaps it's something simple - an IC that tells the SRC which input to select. That's the hassle with digital - it either works or completely goes off rails.

My recommendation is to forget the distributor and go directly to Bryston. If they can fix it for a reasonable charge, fine. If they can't, go with something else, not Bryston. While I do like the BDA-2 and their gear in general, there is plenty other gear out there and most of it is more affordable.

It's clear to me that you like to hang onto your equipment for years. Therefore, always keep in mind from whom you are buying and whether they'll even exist after a number of years. Second, if a company is proficient in building analogue equipment, the same might not apply to digital equipment. Many manufacturers have embarked into the 'digital realm' because the profit margins are higher due to lower consumption of raw materials - amplifiers are bigger and so, there's more steel, aluminium and copper that goes into building them. They are also lighter which means lower transport costs. Also, there are companies that specialise in digital design so it is easier to have someone else make it for you. Make no mistake, whatever you want, there is a company that can do it for you. I am not saying this is what Bryston has done - not at all - for their D/A convertors are somewhat unique and perhaps, that's the reason why they sound good. But the fact remains, if you buy a BDA-3 and in several years you come across a problem, will they be able to fix it for you?

As for HDMI, if you don't need it, don't buy it on the account of higher resale value. The difference would likely be negligible. People tend to appreciate having the original packaging and manual more than the feature set.

Cheers - Antun

bcugk

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Re: BDA-2 power on issue
« Reply #6 on: 25 Oct 2023, 02:55 pm »
much appreciated.