The rest of my system is a Newcastle 9080 preamp and a Parasound HCA 3500 power amp fed by a Sony ES cd player and MSB dac III and silver cabling. Also the rear wall and ceiling about 3' out are covered with 3" acoustic foam. The sound is excellent top to bottom. Definitely have no need for a subwoofer. Not being rich I use my stereo as the main part of my home theater system and the sounds can literally scare you. As for music I really can't complain. There's always something better but the coherence of the mids (you'll lose respect for cone drivers), excellence in the bass region and the quality Scanspeak treble I have is as good as I've personally heard. Best I had heard before was probably the big Theils or B&W's 801 III. So there's alot I haven't heard. I've had a couple of audio friends over and they were also very impressed. You feel all the bass with these and it's a well articulated and balanced with the rest of the system. My main purpose is music but they are quite amazing with movies, have had my heart stopped a number of times. Edit: Those FF3's for sale will also have great bass but probably don't go down to -3@ 20hz like the Supertower, only probably 25hz. These are real numbers not advertising numbers. One more thing: VMPS is a first class company to deal with, Brian busts his ass for his customers.