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Where do you use power conditioning?

Whole system
27 (73%)
Front End Only
2 (5.4%)
Amp(s) Only
0 (0%)
Everything but amps
4 (10.8%)
Analog only
0 (0%)
Power Conditioning is a waste of money
3 (8.1%)
Power Conditioning?  I'm on batteries!!!!
1 (2.7%)

Total Members Voted: 37

Voting closed: 8 Feb 2012, 10:47 pm

Do you use power conditioning?

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jtwrace

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Do you use power conditioning?
« on: 9 Jan 2012, 05:16 pm »
Lets try this..

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Re: Do you use power conditioning?
« Reply #1 on: 9 Jan 2012, 07:29 pm »
"Power Conditioning" is not a well defined term. It can often mean different things to different consumers and to different manufacturers.

So is "Power Conditioning"

a] Noise and interference filtering.
b] Surge and over-voltage protection.
c] Automatic line voltage adjustment.
d] UPS  -  While UPS is a defined term, it is often (very often) mis-applied.
e] Other?

I find it interesting that many Power Conditioner manufactures never really say what their units do.

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Re: Do you use power conditioning?
« Reply #2 on: 9 Jan 2012, 09:19 pm »

Yes : Bryston BIT20 isolation transformer on two-channel system, Tice Solo power conditioner for video, etc.

D.D.

Rclark

Re: Do you use power conditioning?
« Reply #3 on: 9 Jan 2012, 10:44 pm »
No button for "What's power conditioning I'm on batteries?"

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Re: Do you use power conditioning?
« Reply #4 on: 9 Jan 2012, 10:47 pm »
No button for "What's power conditioning I'm on batteries?"

Look above....

Rclark

Re: Do you use power conditioning?
« Reply #5 on: 9 Jan 2012, 10:58 pm »
bam

JohnR

Re: Do you use power conditioning?
« Reply #6 on: 10 Jan 2012, 02:45 am »
It would be helpful if there were a simple "no" answer...

 :D

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Re: Do you use power conditioning?
« Reply #7 on: 10 Jan 2012, 04:16 am »
Even battery systems benefit from conditioning to remove ion noise and reduce output impedance.

Really.

Dave

Rclark

Re: Do you use power conditioning?
« Reply #8 on: 10 Jan 2012, 04:39 am »

 I'll get to you you eventually mister. I'm still a little confused as to how your device works. Do you have a webpage for it?

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Re: Do you use power conditioning?
« Reply #9 on: 10 Jan 2012, 05:00 am »
"Power Conditioning" is not a well defined term. It can often mean different things to different consumers and to different manufacturers.

So is "Power Conditioning"

a] Noise and interference filtering.
b] Surge and over-voltage protection.
c] Automatic line voltage adjustment.
d] UPS  -  While UPS is a defined term, it is often (very often) mis-applied.
e] Other?

I find it interesting that many Power Conditioner manufactures never really say what their units do.

Well, yes, but can you fit all that on an AC survey?  Perhaps a second poll on what members consider a minimum to be called a power conditioner? 

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Re: Do you use power conditioning?
« Reply #10 on: 10 Jan 2012, 09:58 am »
I rent an apt.

I have one 20 amp breaker I use for all equipment. Audio and video.
I use a Furman REF20i power conditioner for  Amp, preamps, Plasma, receiver, and TTs.
I use a PS Audio P600 at 110hz output (instead of 60hz) for all digital items.

I have used a variety of power conditioners over the years, moving up as time went on. Both ones I now have I bought used.
I also have aftermarket powercords, and other tweaky stuff.

I would never give up using power conditioners now.
I really can say they make a valuable difference.

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Re: Do you use power conditioning?
« Reply #11 on: 10 Jan 2012, 10:48 am »
BPT Ultra, Symphony Pro, 20amp dedicated, PS Audio Soloist, a fair amount of tweaks such as judicious use of that fabric(who's name escapes me at the moment) that helps to combat EMI/RFI, cables, room treatrments....


I should add...
One thing that came clear after doing all this is that minor changes became more noticeable instead of being a guess or the diff in media,h/w dare I say could be actually determined as better or worse not just different. Never mind the improvement in noise floor,imaging, which I cherish every time I listen.
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Re: Do you use power conditioning?
« Reply #12 on: 10 Jan 2012, 04:12 pm »
I'll get to you you eventually mister. I'm still a little confused as to how your device works. Do you have a webpage for it?
PM on the way.

Dave

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Re: Do you use power conditioning?
« Reply #13 on: 10 Jan 2012, 04:38 pm »
Hey!

    I plugged my whole system in to PS Audio P600 and it got it own 15A line... which I have 20A line but I'm in rental apt. :? I bought it new not long after it came out.

   It provide more than enough power for my 18wpc SET amps based system. Even with that I still like to turn off the components that I don't use like tuner, tape deck and etc. The system never drawn more than 200 watts even with all components turn on so there are lots of headroom left from the P600 :D

Take care,
Buddy :thumb:


JohnR

Re: Do you use power conditioning?
« Reply #14 on: 11 Jan 2012, 07:15 am »
It would be helpful if there were a simple "no" answer...

 :D

OK, I've put in "Power conditioning is a waste of money" not because I think it is, but because there is no option to just say "I don't use it."

I think the point made by Skeedskater on what specifically "power conditioning" means is very valid. Each of those items is very different.

mav52

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« Reply #15 on: 11 Jan 2012, 01:54 pm »
If you live in central Fla, you better have some sort of power conditioning not to mention take advantage of the power company audits of your power into your home...I had a new home built years ago, and the main ground off the feeder had to be corrected by the power company, plus I had them install an external surge protection device. Had my electrician provide a separate feed to my audio equipment through a PVC pipe plus added a internal Environmental Potentials EP-2450 power supply which also has Ground filtering, High Freq filtering, surge protection and cable filtering. So between the work done I've been lucky so far. Had a pine tree hit a year ago and all is well inside the house.   I say, fix and condition the problems outside the home first then move inside to condition.

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Re: Do you use power conditioning?
« Reply #16 on: 13 Mar 2012, 11:35 pm »
  Power cords on all units do the trick for my system  :thumb:

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Re: Do you use power conditioning?
« Reply #17 on: 14 Mar 2012, 12:58 am »
I use a Cullen Circuits modified PS Audio P300 to power my cd players, headphone amp, and phono preamp. I use after market power cords on everything as well. Like Mav52, I live in central Florida  and have whole house surge protection installed at the meter inlet. After a lightning strike fried all the circuitry in our garage door system and doorbell circuit, I took the hint and installed protection before something worse happened.

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Re: Do you use power conditioning?
« Reply #18 on: 14 Mar 2012, 04:32 pm »
Hi.
Power cords on all units do the trick for my system  :thumb:

How?

c-J

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Re: Do you use power conditioning?
« Reply #19 on: 14 Mar 2012, 04:35 pm »
Hi.
"Power Conditioning" is not a well defined term. It can often mean different things to different consumers and to different manufacturers.

So is "Power Conditioning"

a] Noise and interference filtering.
b] Surge and over-voltage protection.
c] Automatic line voltage adjustment.
d] UPS  -  While UPS is a defined term, it is often (very often) mis-applied.
e] Other?

I find it interesting that many Power Conditioner manufactures never really say what their units do.

For auido, item a) above it most useful.

Others will be of less priority.

c-J