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Title: Any new projects coming out this fall?
Post by: aln on 27 Aug 2015, 12:06 pm
Have any new projects/products coming out this fall?  Regards
Title: Re: Any new projects coming out this fall?
Post by: avahifi on 27 Aug 2015, 09:00 pm
We are testing a 1000W mono amp.  Two issues, it might require a 20 amp AC line circuit (one per channel) and it is a bit heavy for me to pick up.  :)

Sound? Spectacular!

Frank
Title: Mono Amps
Post by: aln on 28 Aug 2015, 12:04 pm
Solid state or Tube input?  Very interested in this amplifier.

Thanks
Al N
Title: Re: Any new projects coming out this fall?
Post by: martyo on 28 Aug 2015, 12:52 pm
Wow Frank!!!!!!!!!

Gotta be solid state, or maybe hybrid. Even with Frank being the champion of giving us "champaign on a beer budget", 1000 tube watts just might be outta reach. 8)
Title: Re: Any new projects coming out this fall?
Post by: I.Greyhound Fan on 28 Aug 2015, 02:52 pm
Frank, you have to invite me over for a listen.


Larry
Title: Re: Any new projects coming out this fall?
Post by: avahifi on 28 Aug 2015, 04:35 pm
Actually we can do it with either our Synergy solid state or Fet Valve hybrid tube circuits.  We have versions of both running right now.

I probably will bring the prototypes to the Minnesota Audio Society meeting on September 15th.

Will use our ABX Comparator to test against any other amps members want to bring in.

Will be fun seeing if I can turn their house Magnapan 1.6 speakers into confetti.  :)

Frank
Title: Re: Any new projects coming out this fall?
Post by: Listens2tubes on 28 Aug 2015, 05:06 pm
Please post a video of the proceedings. I want to see the confetti.  :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: Any new projects coming out this fall?
Post by: I.Greyhound Fan on 28 Aug 2015, 07:57 pm
The 1.6's can handle the power as  long as it is clean.
Title: Re: Any new projects coming out this fall?
Post by: NIGHTFALL1970 on 1 Sep 2015, 01:36 pm
Pictures? :drool:
Title: Re: Any new projects coming out this fall?
Post by: mark funk on 4 Sep 2015, 06:59 pm
WOW!  That's cool! Just whit i need for my HT2-TL!

They going to be in Denver?? 
Title: Re: Any new projects coming out this fall?
Post by: JerryM on 4 Sep 2015, 07:18 pm
1 kW Fet Valve Monoblocks? That's awesome, Frank. What's the tube compliment?
Title: Re: Any new projects coming out this fall?
Post by: modular747 on 4 Sep 2015, 10:58 pm
As long as it's a mono amp, not a monoblock, I'm interested!
Title: Re: Any new projects coming out this fall?
Post by: Listens2tubes on 5 Sep 2015, 08:27 pm
Pictures? :drool:

Yeah!  :drool:
Title: Re: Any new projects coming out this fall?
Post by: Minn Mark on 12 Dec 2015, 02:01 pm
Bump.

Any photos of the 1Kw mono amps?

Mark
Title: Re: Any new projects coming out this fall?
Post by: dB Cooper on 13 Dec 2015, 04:52 am
As long as it's a mono amp, not a monoblock, I'm interested!
How are they different?
Title: Re: Any new projects coming out this fall?
Post by: modular747 on 14 Dec 2015, 05:19 pm
"Monoblock" is a marketing gimmick invented by some "high end" manufacturers in order to convey a sense of great mass and expense for their monaural amps, since "mono" conveyed obsolescence in the post stereo era.  It has no intrinsic meaning and is testament to the Golden Age of BS we live in.
Title: Re: Any new projects coming out this fall?
Post by: Wayner on 14 Dec 2015, 06:35 pm
No, its a description for an amplifier of one channel, mounted in one chassis. They usually feature significantly more power then their "stereo" cousins, because they have only one mission to complete. That being the amplification of one, singular channel.
Title: Re: Any new projects coming out this fall?
Post by: rajacat on 14 Dec 2015, 07:00 pm
Mono blocks generally have separate power supplies too.
Title: Re: Any new projects coming out this fall?
Post by: modular747 on 14 Dec 2015, 07:24 pm
No, its a description for an amplifier of one channel, mounted in one chassis. They usually feature significantly more power then their "stereo" cousins, because they have only one mission to complete. That being the amplification of one, singular channel.

That is exactly the definition of a mono amp.  The Dynamo Mark III (60 watts/channel) and Mark VI (120 watts/channel) were called "mono" amps, with power per channel exceeding the Stereo 70.  "Monoblock" is a ripoff of a term used for the common window air conditioner (compressor and evaporator in one housing), by Krell and their ilk. 
Title: Re: Any new projects coming out this fall?
Post by: modular747 on 14 Dec 2015, 07:26 pm
Mono blocks generally have separate power supplies too.

Very, very few of the amps sold as "monoblocks" for the last 30 years have had separate power supplies.
Title: Re: Any new projects coming out this fall?
Post by: rajacat on 14 Dec 2015, 07:31 pm
Very, very few of the amps sold as "monoblocks" for the last 30 years have had separate power supplies.
How do you know that? Have you done a survey or are you just guessing?
Title: Re: Any new projects coming out this fall?
Post by: resonance on 14 Dec 2015, 08:00 pm
Please forgive if this is too stupid a question for an answer.
Would a pair of 600Rs be upgradeable to a set of the new 1K monoblocks?
Title: Re: Any new projects coming out this fall?
Post by: modular747 on 14 Dec 2015, 08:07 pm
How do you know that? Have you done a survey or are you just guessing?

I've been reading the manufacturer's literature and visiting audio "salons" for the last 40 years. How about you?
Title: Re: Any new projects coming out this fall?
Post by: SteveFord on 15 Dec 2015, 12:08 am
Call them whatever you like, did this new project get off the ground? 
These sound like the ticket for planar speakers.
Title: Re: Any new projects coming out this fall?
Post by: modular747 on 15 Dec 2015, 12:21 am
There's been no announcement from AVA anywhere.  Still a prototype, if that. 

Amps that are too heavy to lift and require dedicated 20 amp circuits per channel don't seem to be in the AVA tradition, but probably will be more affordable than the $50-100K per unit the competition offers.
Title: Re: Any new projects coming out this fall?
Post by: JerryM on 15 Dec 2015, 01:59 am
Yes, still a prototype it seems, but they did go out for another listen. http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=138750.msg1477532#msg1477532 (http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=138750.msg1477532#msg1477532)

Hopefully, I.Greyhound Fan (Larry) will chime in with some thoughts.  :thumb:

Have fun,

Jerry
Title: Re: Any new projects coming out this fall?
Post by: Mary on 15 Dec 2015, 08:13 pm
Hi guys,

We are still working on these amplifiers and getting close to final stages.  Just to answer a few questions.

Bump.

Any photos of the 1Kw mono amps?

Mark

Mark we don't have photos yet as we are still working on the faceplate design.
Please forgive if this is too stupid a question for an answer.
Would a pair of 600Rs be upgradeable to a set of the new 1K monoblocks?

resonance not a stupid question.  Frank has always focused on the ability to provide upgrades.  Unfortunately, upgrades from older amplifiers would not be an option for these.
There's been no announcement from AVA anywhere.  Still a prototype, if that. 

Amps that are too heavy to lift and require dedicated 20 amp circuits per channel don't seem to be in the AVA tradition, but probably will be more affordable than the $50-100K per unit the competition offers.
modular747 we definitely have not designed these amplifiers to be too heavy, I have to be able to lift them - prerequisite for our engineers before designing - Can Mary lift it? :weights:
The final price has not been determined yet, as always, it will be affordable. That is and always has been what AVA is all about.  Great sounding equipment at reasonable prices. We want everyone to be able to enjoy listening to music as much as we do here. :banana piano:
Title: Re: Any new projects coming out this fall?
Post by: modular747 on 16 Dec 2015, 06:28 am
We are testing a 1000W mono amp.  Two issues, it might require a 20 amp AC line circuit (one per channel) and it is a bit heavy for me to pick up.  :)

Sound? Spectacular!

Frank

Mary must be more buff than Frank!
Title: Re: Any new projects coming out this fall?
Post by: Tone Depth on 17 Dec 2015, 10:46 pm
Frank,

Any chance of an amp for the Salk Exotica bass section, improving on the Rythmic plate amp presently being used?