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Audio/Video Gear and Systems => Planar Circle => Topic started by: eduke55 on 30 Mar 2023, 09:47 pm
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I have been researching this brand, out of France, and they seems very interesting. They make several models and reviews are very positive. Not inexpensive but do not need to be plugged into ac and not to difficult to drive. Like most planars they cannot play extremely loud, nor do they reproduce very deep bass. Hoping to audition their model DP-107 soon. When I do, I'll leave my impressions. 😎
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I’d love to hear them, though they are way above what I could pay for speakers. It would be interesting to compare them to Magnepan.
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I have an audition scheduled for Wednesday of their DP-107 model. I will post my musing soon afterwards. I'm more curious than serious at this point but in this hobby you never know! :)
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First audition of Diptyque 107's!
My impressions were very favorable. This model is not very big, and just one up from their smallest(and least expensive) model. Like many great panel speakers, they were free of any box colorations and very involving. Sure, they were clear and detailed but never overly bright or edgy sounding. They were driven by a Cyrus ONE Cast all in one integrated amp, dac and streamer. Even though Bluetooth was used to stream Tidal to it, I was impressed with how well this Cyrus did driving the Diptyques. I am going back to listen again with different front end and amp.
The Diptyque 107's were in a good size room(16x19x9') and had no problem filling that room with great sound. Played mono selections to check speaker setup and a few classical selections for depth and scale. No complaints, rather these speakers had me enjoying everything I played through them. They did not make not so good recordings sound better, but they did not make them sound worse either! Vocals, both female and male were excellent, and I really enjoyed the listening experience with these speakers. I did not listen to them at very high levels(85+db), but I think they could handle high levels. I'll confirm that at the next session. These speakers did not seem difficult to set up and optimize for the best response. Not sure when the next audition will happen yet, but could be early May. Will post afterwards.
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Thanks for posting your impressions.
How was the bass response?
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I heard them at RMAF a few years ago and they were very good sounding speakers.
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Great sounding panels, better built than Magnepans. And they easily show differences between amplifiers. Not cheap, but worth every penny.
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That mounting system is really clever.
https://fidelityimports.com/
You have to scroll through the pictures, it's the 4th one in.
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Regarding bass response. For the size of this panel and the considerable room, I thought the bass response was very good. I do not think a subwoofer is needed unless you want more visceral impact of bass. This model(107) is one step up from their smallest panel and is the latest addition to the Diptyque line. I played a few tracks that feature piano and they sounded great through these 107's. At my next audition I will definitely test the bass(rock, organ, club/disco tracks) as well as dynamic range. I'll have my db meter with me. 8)
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Regarding bass response. For the size of this panel and the considerable room, I thought the bass response was very good. I do not think a subwoofer is needed unless you want more visceral impact of bass. This model(107) is one step up from their smallest panel and is the latest addition to the Diptyque line. I played a few tracks that feature piano and they sounded great through these 107's. At my next audition I will definitely test the bass(rock, organ, club/disco tracks) as well as dynamic range. I'll have my db meter with me. 8)
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I have been researching this brand, out of France, and they seems very interesting. They make several models and reviews are very positive. Not inexpensive but do not need to be plugged into ac and not to difficult to drive. Like most planars they cannot play extremely loud, nor do they reproduce very deep bass. Hoping to audition their model DP-107 soon. When I do, I'll leave my impressions. 😎
I've heard varying reports. Most have been positive, but one person whose ears I respect complained that they had one note bass.
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Not sure what one note bass is, but on my audition I think the bass was impressive for the size of the speaker. I will reserve final judgement on the 107 pending next audition, hopefully later this month.
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Not sure what one note bass is, but on my audition I think the bass was impressive for the size of the speaker. I will reserve final judgement on the 107 pending next audition, hopefully later this month.
A strong peak in the frequency response that tends to emphasize one frequency (one note) at the expense of others.
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If that what one note bass is, the 107's did not have that quality. Imho.
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If that what one note bass is, the 107's did not have that quality. Imho.
The room/setup certainly plays a big role in the bass response one gets at the listening position.
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If that what one note bass is, the 107's did not have that quality. Imho.
Sorry I didn't get a chance to hear them myself. But as eduke55 says, the room plays a big role, and hotel rooms are pretty terrible. One of my disappointments at audio shows is that even great speakers sound mediocre, hard to tell what's what. Another being that they always play Diana Krall, who sounds good on anything. You never hear something really demanding like an orchestra. I leave the room not knowing what I've heard!
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Put on Zappa's Apostrophe' and you'll know in 2 minutes what you've got.
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Put on Zappa's Apostrophe' and you'll know in 2 minutes what you've got.
:-)
That's a great record. At one point, the synth sounds come from outside the stereo triangle. Very cool effect -- don't know whether they just inverted the phase, or used crosstalk cancellaton.
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nor do they reproduce very deep bass.
Who told you that?
I listened to the DP107's for a good length of time at the Florida Audio Expo this year, and they had no issues putting out some good deep bass. They're rated to 40 Hz, the same as my Maggie 1.7's, but I swear they were digging deeper than my 1.7's, and my Maggies get down to the low to mid 30 Hz range in my room.
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Who told you that?
I listened to the DP107's for a good length of time at the Florida Audio Expo this year, and they had no issues putting out some good deep bass. They're rated to 40 Hz, the same as my Maggie 1.7's, but I swear they were digging deeper than my 1.7's, and my Maggies get down to the low to mid 30 Hz range in my room.
I've heard the bass was kind of one note. You can get more bass than that way, but the response isn't smooth.
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I've heard the bass was kind of one note. You can get more bass than that way, but the response isn't smooth.
I really don't understand that second sentence your wrote there. Doesn't make much sense.
But again, I have no idea what you heard or who you heard that from. They DON'T lack bass, they do NOT have "one note" bass, and the response sounded pretty smooth in the room I heard them in. Then again, Suncoast Audio knows how to properly set up a room and system, so there's that.
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This reviewer of the Pass Labs 150.8 posted recordings of it driving a Diptyque (apparently a DP107) and a TAD Evolution 2 - three pieces of music on each path.
Get the files via
https://alpha-audio.net/review/review-pass-labs-x150-8-entry-level-pass-or-is-it/3/
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I really don't understand that second sentence your wrote there. Doesn't make much sense.
But again, I have no idea what you heard or who you heard that from. They DON'T lack bass, they do NOT have "one note" bass, and the response sounded pretty smooth in the room I heard them in. Then again, Suncoast Audio knows how to properly set up a room and system, so there's that.
Well, if you're doing acoustic equalization, you have only so much energy to work with, so you can get more bass but only at the cost of hollowing out the midbass -- some of the Apogees are like that, it shows clearly in the response curves. There are other reasons this might happen as well. I don't know enough about the Diptyque to know which might apply.
The person I heard it from is a reliable source, but, of course, he could be wrong, or he could have heard it in a poor room.
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Well, if you're doing acoustic equalization, you have only so much energy to work with, so you can get more bass but only at the cost of hollowing out the midbass -- some of the Apogees are like that, it shows clearly in the response curves. There are other reasons this might happen as well. I don't know enough about the Diptyque to know which might apply.
The person I heard it from is a reliable source, but, of course, he could be wrong, or he could have heard it in a poor room.
Like I said earlier, they sounded nothing like that at the Florida Expo this year.
And if that is the case in most "normal" rooms and these speakers, then that's a great example of placing the speakers where they need to be for best imaging and staging, and using two or more subs where they need to be for the smoothest bass response.
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I posted on an earlier thread about my own experience with the Diptyque planars. As regards the DP-107, I auditioned it at length one day even though I knew I was not a potential customer. It is an excellent planar, improving on the DP-77 that I own and so enjoy. There is no one note bass on either speaker. Bass is articulate, with good pace, and excellent tone/timbre. Furthermore, both speakers are well balanced with a good midrange and highs. The line tweeter might be the real treat as it possesses excellent detail and resolution and is never 'in your face' or harsh. Really, this a wonderful line of speakers with an outstanding industrial design aesthetic. I'm 18 months or more into my ownership and I'm delighted; see my earlier post on the other thread for more info. Neill
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I posted on an earlier thread about my own experience with the Diptyque planars. As regards the DP-107, I auditioned it at length one day even though I knew I was not a potential customer. It is an excellent planar, improving on the DP-77 that I own and so enjoy. There is no one note bass on either speaker. Bass is articulate, with good pace, and excellent tone/timbre. Furthermore, both speakers are well balanced with a good midrange and highs. The line tweeter might be the real treat as it possesses excellent detail and resolution and is never 'in your face' or harsh. Really, this a wonderful line of speakers with an outstanding industrial design aesthetic. I'm 18 months or more into my ownership and I'm delighted; see my earlier post on the other thread for more info. Neill
Agree 100%.
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I heard them at AXPONA 2023, and it was their largest model panel at the time. They sounded awesome to me, however that was a pretty small hotel room. Plus they played a lot of EDM music in that room, which I am not really familiar with. I asked them to play a track from Tron Legacy, but it wasn't the one I wanted (Outlands). Bass sounded good to me but, I am no Golden Ear Audiophile, I wish :cry:
Michael Hoatson sells Diptque speakers: In fact those were his personal pair of Diptque speakers at the show.
https://www.listenroom.com/products