BRYSTON DIGITAL PLAYER (BDP-1)

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Re: BRYSTON DIGITAL PLAYER (BDP-1)
« Reply #60 on: 4 May 2010, 09:37 pm »
But, but, but.... in the 1st post you say...

It brings in the digital files from a USB device (the CD of the 21’st century) or an external hard drive or (NAS) drive over a hardwired Ethernet cable.

That seems to say something different than only serving files from the attached USB drive.  Sorry to be so dense but I feel like I'm missing something here... :scratch:

Another question.... what UI on your Mac (or from an iPhone) are you using to access and manage the music?  Is it just a browser interface to something being served from the BDP-1?

Hi Mike,

Our hope is to add a NAS drive going forward that the BDP-1 would 'recognize' instantly on the network therefore eliminating the need for the customer to be a computer geek.

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« Reply #61 on: 4 May 2010, 09:40 pm »
There's a Linksys small unit that does this too:

http://www.linksysbycisco.com/APAC/en/products/WAP610N

Both brands are widely available (Best Buy / Futureshop / most indie computer shops). Would be nice if Bryston checks at least one of them for compatibility.

There are 2 good reasons for not having the wireless adapter inside the Bryston box. One is the RF circuitry. The other is planned obsolescence. The standards are (very fast) moving here too. So better to have to replace a $69 external adapter than fight with endless patches or even going into a dead end.

Also if I don't need wireless I would not connect one at all and will have less electronic noise around.

Nap.

From engineering:

It’s possible to get a wireless receiver/transmitter pair working but noise suggests you want it external to the box and configuring it also suggests you want it external to the box. We would recommend power line networking since the configuration is automatic and invisible. Also if the connection is good enough it works pretty well for moving content as well.

Building this into the box adds a considerable cost and a support premium that  brings no value to many customers. You can get external power  line networking for as little as $30 a box at Tiger Direct.
       

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Re: BRYSTON DIGITAL PLAYER (BDP-1)
« Reply #62 on: 4 May 2010, 09:41 pm »
How much will the BDP-1 cost.  What's the approximate price point that you're looking at for the US market?


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« Reply #63 on: 4 May 2010, 09:43 pm »
Hi Mike,

Our hope is to add a NAS drive going forward that the BDP-1 would 'recognize' instantly on the network therefore eliminating the need for the customer to be a computer geek.

james
James, thanks - that makes sense.

So the software that accesses and manages the music via a browser - is that served up by the BDP-1 and, if so, can you provide any info on how robust it is?  I'm still a bit confused on how the music collection is then accessed and managed for playback...

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« Reply #64 on: 4 May 2010, 09:44 pm »
Hi Mike,

Our hope is to add a NAS drive going forward that the BDP-1 would 'recognize' instantly on the network therefore eliminating the need for the customer to be a computer geek.

james

Hi Mike,

On the 2nd question on the iphone or itouch there is a free remote control download from Apple called 'Mpod' - it works great.  On the MAC I use Firefox as the browser and the free program is called Minion - works great!

james

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Re: BRYSTON DIGITAL PLAYER (BDP-1)
« Reply #66 on: 6 May 2010, 01:37 am »
Ha!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Serial_Bus#USB_3.0

Nap.  :duh:

There's no immediate advantage to use USB3.0 for this application, USB 2.0 is fine.  As USB 3.0 HDDs are showing up on the store shelfs now they are still backwards compatible with USB 2.0.  Also, USB 3.0 is even faster than today's HDD so the only benefit for USB 3.0 would be for expensive RAID setups for high IO processing.  If anything this will compete with eSATA and Fiber-channel disk arrays, but if the cost is low it will replace any USB2.0 ports and devices.   CPUs, device drivers and OSes update much faster than these serial standards typically do.   

My biggest fear is with the lack of hi-resolution music of today's artists could hint at that the current formats are going to get shunned (WAV, FLAC, AIFF).   We know this hi-rez train is coming but we don't really know when or how...  Worst case scenario would be with Microsoft and Apple using another format, perhaps another format war, that supports HDCP 2.0, which is intended for online streaming for the Zune and iPod.  That alone would shake up existing formats and solutions.   

« Last Edit: 6 May 2010, 02:39 am by skunark »

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« Reply #67 on: 6 May 2010, 02:33 am »
[...]My biggest fear is with the lack of hi-resolution music of today's artists could hint at that the current formats are going to get shunned (WAV, FLAC, AIFF).   We know this hi-rez train is coming but we don't really know when or how...  Worst case scenario would be with Microsoft and Apple using another format, perhaps another format war, that supports HDCP 2.0, which is intended for online streaming for the Zune and iPod.  That alone would shack up existing formats and solutions.   

I guess the industry's wet dream is to have a heavily DRM and patent infested product that is "licensed not sold", preferably through a subscription service, and delivered through a device that has a kill switch (a la Apple's iPhone, Sony's "updates" for PS3 and BR players, or Microsoft's "Genuine Advantage").

I hope the public is aware by now of these schemes and won't jump both feet into it.

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Re: BRYSTON DIGITAL PLAYER (BDP-1)
« Reply #68 on: 6 May 2010, 11:27 am »
The above concerns are why we want to keep the BDP-1 as "open source" as possible - ex: ability to play Flac files.

james
« Last Edit: 6 May 2010, 01:07 pm by James Tanner »

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« Reply #69 on: 6 May 2010, 01:39 pm »
The above concerns are why we want to keep the BDP-1 as "open source" as possible - ex: ability to play Flac files.

james

Hi James,

I think that you are aware that the big boys are after cleaning the area of any open source/public domain codec or format:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/30/steve_jobs_claims_ogg_theora_attack/

I guess you could contribute to this by helping Steve to sell some more iPhones/iPods/iPads. To be used as remotes.  :eyebrows:

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« Reply #70 on: 6 May 2010, 03:25 pm »
Hi James,

I think that you are aware that the big boys are after cleaning the area of any open source/public domain codec or format:http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/30/steve_jobs_claims_ogg_theora_attack/

I guess you could contribute to this by helping Steve to sell some more iPhones/iPods/iPads. To be used as remotes.  :eyebrows:

Nap.  :o

lol.... never happen. Unless the U.S. and their sh@#ty ideas on the internet get their way.

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Re: BRYSTON DIGITAL PLAYER (BDP-1)
« Reply #71 on: 6 May 2010, 05:13 pm »
lol.... never happen. Unless the U.S. and their sh@#ty ideas on the internet get their way.

They're working on it:

http://gizmodo.com/5396757/secret-copyright-treaty-details-leak-isps-worldwide-to-become-copyright-cops

Nap.  :duh:

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« Reply #72 on: 6 May 2010, 06:46 pm »
They're working on it:

http://gizmodo.com/5396757/secret-copyright-treaty-details-leak-isps-worldwide-to-become-copyright-cops

Nap.  :duh:

I havent seen that one yet, and yet their internet was pathetic only until recently for ping. And now they think they can control the world ip protocol. They will learn fast Europe and Asia will just ignore them. No one is buying into that crap.


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Re: BRYSTON DIGITAL PLAYER (BDP-1)
« Reply #73 on: 6 May 2010, 07:00 pm »
I havent seen that one yet, and yet their internet was pathetic only until recently for ping. And now they think they can control the world ip protocol. They will learn fast Europe and Asia will just ignore them. No one is buying into that crap.

Don't underestimate the power of bribes. In the unlikely event that it doesn't work, US will help organize "free elections" until they get in place the right kind of politicians.

Nap.

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Re: BRYSTON DIGITAL PLAYER (BDP-1)
« Reply #74 on: 6 May 2010, 08:29 pm »
They're already testing the stuff:

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2010/05/06/berliner_philharmoniker_on_bravia/

No blu-ray discs for you. Subscription only!!!!

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Re: BRYSTON DIGITAL PLAYER (BDP-1)
« Reply #75 on: 6 May 2010, 10:32 pm »
lol.... never happen. Unless the U.S. and their sh@#ty ideas on the internet get their way.

Ya know, werd, if I had a disagreement with something Canadians were doing I would find a more constuctive way to advance the disagreement. Insulting other member's countires is not a good way to maintain a friendly discourse.

Thanks in advance,

Bill

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Re: BRYSTON DIGITAL PLAYER (BDP-1)
« Reply #76 on: 6 May 2010, 10:51 pm »
Ya know, werd, if I had a disagreement with something Canadians were doing I would find a more constuctive way to advance the disagreement. Insulting other member's countires is not a good way to maintain a friendly discourse.

Thanks in advance,

Bill

I wish it were only that, but unfortunately what your government/comcast are trying to achieve is scary and very real.
And they are trying to push it on the rest of the world. Here is how it will look if they get their way.
     
Instead of paying for internet montly and getting free access to everything.  You will be charged an access fee from an ip provider. And that access fee will grant free access to lets
say 5 sites....lol thats right. After that you have to pay as you go. And if the ip doesnt like the site its a no go.
This is your country not mine. So you guys need to change that or quit making everyone else trying to jump on.

Like i said the U.S had nothing short 3rd world internet until recently and now they are getting decent connects, so that some how equates that everyone has to jump on their crazy notions of what the internet should be.

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Re: BRYSTON DIGITAL PLAYER (BDP-1)
« Reply #77 on: 6 May 2010, 11:30 pm »
Hi Guys,

i think this discussion is becoming 'political' which as we all know is a NO-NO on this discussion board. :nono:
Please lets get back to beating me up over the Bryston Digital Player idea.  :cry:

james

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Re: BRYSTON DIGITAL PLAYER (BDP-1)
« Reply #78 on: 6 May 2010, 11:42 pm »
Ok  :thumb:

werd

Re: BRYSTON DIGITAL PLAYER (BDP-1)
« Reply #79 on: 6 May 2010, 11:51 pm »
Hi James

Any chance of changing it to?,

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