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Title: Saigon hi-end show.
Post by: Guy 13 on 3 Sep 2016, 01:42 pm
Hi all,
I know I am not at the right place,
so please re-direct me to the right place.

September 17 to 19th 2016
the hi-end AV show at the Majestic Hotel
in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam.
I will be there and try to make a small report,
but don't expect much from me,
I suck at that kind of thing.

Guy 13
on planet Vietnam.
Title: Re: Saigon hi-end show.
Post by: Phil A on 3 Sep 2016, 02:43 pm
Guy - is this the show?  http://www.avshow.com.vn/
Title: Re: Saigon hi-end show.
Post by: mresseguie on 3 Sep 2016, 03:25 pm
I think your reporting on what stands out to you is a great idea. I'll look forward to your report.

Michael
Title: Re: Saigon hi-end show.
Post by: Don_S on 3 Sep 2016, 03:36 pm
Guy,

Sure we would all like to see some pictures and get your impressions but don't worry about reporting.  Its your dime and your time----have fun.
Title: Re: Saigon hi-end show.
Post by: FullRangeMan on 3 Sep 2016, 03:46 pm
We expect alot of photos since you are a photography dealer.
Title: Re: Saigon hi-end show.
Post by: Guy 13 on 3 Sep 2016, 08:17 pm
Guy - is this the show?  http://www.avshow.com.vn/

Yes Phil,
that's the show.

Guy 13
on planet Vietnam.
Title: Re: Saigon hi-end show.
Post by: Guy 13 on 15 Sep 2016, 07:18 am
Hi all,
today I drove past the Majestic hotel just to make sure the AV show
is still on the schedule and it is.
I will be there Sunday fr sure and maybe also Monday 50% sure.
I will try to do a good reporter job.
I was wondering if to make my visit more official
and get a red carpet welcome form the exhibitors
if I could advertise myself as a representative, reporter, ambassador, official
for AudioCircle, what would be the best name to describe what I will be doing ?
Since I don't think the entrance badge wont show anything other than my name
I will make my own badge with AudioCircle on it.
Any suggestions ?

Guy 13
on planet Vietnam
and official representative for AudioCircle on planet Vietnam.
 
Title: Re: Saigon hi-end show.
Post by: triumph on 15 Sep 2016, 08:23 am
Looks like it might a short visit.

I count 16 companies showing up.
Or is there more to this than what's showing in this picture?

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=150352)
Title: Re: Saigon hi-end show.
Post by: Guy 13 on 15 Sep 2016, 11:03 am
Hi Triumph,
I will know for sure when I get there on Sunday.
But with the not too good economy,
I would not be surprise if there was only 16 exhibitors.
The Majestic hotel is a very expensive hotel,
two of my (Rich, not like me) relatives stayed there
and 10 years ago they paid 350 USD per night.

Guy 13
on planet Vietnam.
Title: Re: Saigon hi-end show.
Post by: Hugh on 15 Sep 2016, 02:08 pm
Hi Triumph,
I will know for sure when I get there on Sunday.
But with the not too good economy,
I would not be surprise if there was only 16 exhibitors.
The Majestic hotel is a very expensive hotel,
two of my (Rich, not like me) relatives stayed there
and 10 years ago they paid 350 USD per night.

Guy 13
on planet Vietnam.

How's the weather there Guy?

We thought about exhibiting there but it is expensive.
Title: Re: Saigon hi-end show.
Post by: mresseguie on 15 Sep 2016, 03:52 pm
Hi all,
today I drove past the Majestic hotel just to make sure the AV show
is still on the schedule and it is.
I will be there Sunday fr sure and maybe also Monday 50% sure.
I will try to do a good reporter job.
I was wondering if to make my visit more official
and get a red carpet welcome form the exhibitors
if I could advertise myself as a representative, reporter, ambassador, official
for AudioCircle, what would be the best name to describe what I will be doing ?
Since I don't think the entrance badge wont show anything other than my name
I will make my own badge with AudioCircle on it.
Any suggestions ?

Guy 13
on planet Vietnam
and official representative for AudioCircle on planet Vietnam.
 

Great idea (from my standpoint anyway).

Perhaps you could bill yourself as the AC Vietnam Field Correspondent?

16 vendors is small, but just think of all the attention you can gain. I think it would be very interesting to attend this. Are all the vendors 2-channel audio, or are some HT?

There are shows coming up in Taichung and Taipei that I plan to attend again this Winter. I had a blast last Winter.
Title: Re: Saigon hi-end show.
Post by: Guy 13 on 17 Sep 2016, 10:19 pm
Hi all,
today is the day.
Got up early (5am) to get ready for my visit to the Saigon hi-end AV show
at the Majestic hotel.
I will post pictures (Hopefully lots of them) tomorrow.
See you later.

Guy 13
on planet Vietnam.
Title: Re: Saigon hi-end show.
Post by: timind on 18 Sep 2016, 12:11 pm
Looking forward to this. Enjoy the show.
Title: Re: Saigon hi-end show.
Post by: Guy 13 on 18 Sep 2016, 12:18 pm
Hi all,
I am back from the Saigon Hi-End show with pictures.
I am glad I went, but also happy to be back.
My Nikon D-200 with my SB600 flash were having problem
exposing correctly the pictures, most are under-exposed,
therefore I had to do strong post treatment.
I will spread all the taken pictures over a few days,
because the Internet connection is so slow. (3.25 Gbps)
40% of the exhibitors were Home Cinema stuff.
50% hi-end stuff (Very expensive stuff)
10% Speaker cables, mini systems, headphones...
You will se that I don't have much talent as a photojournalist,
so please be forgiving.
Thanks

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=150501)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=150502)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=150503)

Extruded aluminum speaker enclosure.
Made in Switzerland.
It's not shown, but the walls are lined with a quater inch thick
gasket like soft foamy rubber.
The speakers sound good, but not more than just good.
Of course like all the audio shows, the acoustic of the hotel room was terrible
and the choice of recorded material not always good either.

That's it for my first report or should I simply say:
My first post.

Guy 13
on planet Vietnam.
 
Title: Re: Saigon hi-end show.
Post by: Guy 13 on 18 Sep 2016, 12:20 pm
Looking forward to this. Enjoy the show.

Hi timid.
Don't want only criticize what I saw,
I did get two good-nice surprises,
the remaining of the show was simply...
Good no more, but no less.

Guy 13
on planet Vietnam.

By the way, I had to keep my ear plugs during the whole show,
those Vietnamese they sure like their music loud, very loud...
Title: Re: Saigon hi-end show.
Post by: Hugh on 18 Sep 2016, 03:14 pm
Thanks for sharing Guy.

I do know how loud those guys prefer.
Title: Re: Saigon hi-end show.
Post by: Guy 13 on 19 Sep 2016, 06:47 am
One of the several rooms for home cinéma stuff.
This one is... So, so...

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=150569)

Sony cinema projector, you can see that trying to suspend it to the ceiling might by a problem or a big job.
The exhibitor did not have sound, no speakers, only video without sound. Humm mmm  :oops: :nono: :duh:

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=150570)


Title: Re: Saigon hi-end show.
Post by: Guy 13 on 19 Sep 2016, 06:50 am
Sorry... The Sony projector set up had speakers,
but the sound was off, when I was in the room.
Sorry again.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=150571)
Title: Re: Saigon hi-end show.
Post by: Guy 13 on 19 Sep 2016, 06:56 am
At the admission desk, in the elevator or anywhere else,
there was no indication that the exhibition was on floor two and three.
I only found out when I was ready to leave and saw some visitors
pushing the second floor button.
There is a lack of organization...
So, second floor is like half a floor and the third floor is full length.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=150572)
Title: Re: Saigon hi-end show.
Post by: JLM on 19 Sep 2016, 10:40 am
So inquiring minds want to know:

What did you like?

Was it busy?

Did you go back to the 2nd and 3rd floors?

Did you visit all the rooms?

How long did you stay?

IMO vendors do a very poor job displaying at shows, seemingly not done to impress, appearing to be extremely rushed.
Title: Re: Saigon hi-end show.
Post by: Guy 13 on 19 Sep 2016, 11:58 am
So inquiring minds want to know:

What did you like?

Was it busy?

Did you go back to the 2nd and 3rd floors?

Did you visit all the rooms?

How long did you stay?

IMO vendors do a very poor job displaying at shows, seemingly not done to impress, appearing to be extremely rushed.

Hi JLM,
thanks for asking all those questions, it shows that you are interested.
Sooooo....
What I liked was.... Three things.
One home cinema set up.
A pair of fairly small speakers with big sound.
A pair of big speakers with big sound and big price.
Pictures and comments will come this week in a post dedicated just for that.
Yes, it was busy, I went on Sunday - 9am and here was already lots of people,
but when I left around 11am there was almost traffic jam in the corridors of the hotel
and the elevator was full with a long waiting time, I took the stairs, need the exercise.
Yes, I did visit all the rooms twice on the two floors.
9am to 11am that's two hours to see everything there was to see.
Of course some rooms didn't need a 15 minute stay, 5 minutes was enough.
For what I know from my 20 years stay on planet Vietnam,
the Vietnamese vendors have to habit of displaying everything they have at their store,
they bring their whole inventory and stack it to the roof (If they can) to impress potential buyer.
I've seen that in computer stores where they put monitors and computer's towers
stack one on top of the other to the roof, no kidding.
Only they hi-end or call it expensive audio stuff had decent set up,
but unfortunately, none of them had decent acoustic room treatment.
Any more questions ?
Please just ask.
More pictures to come tomorrow.

Guy 13
on planet Vietnam.
By the way, it's a (Vietnamese) custom or a trend in many shows,
but this years there was lots of nice ladies to greet you at the door of the room.
 
Title: Re: Saigon hi-end show.
Post by: triumph on 19 Sep 2016, 03:39 pm
Thanks for the reports.

Looks like a zoo!  And not well organised either.

Your efforts are appreciated.
Title: Re: Saigon hi-end show.
Post by: mresseguie on 19 Sep 2016, 05:31 pm
Guy,

Thank you for posting about it. It's a shame it was so poorly organized.

 I can't imagine going to all the trouble to demonstrate an entire HT system without sound. That will surely help sales.

Now, I'm really looking forward to upcoming shows in Taiwan. They are well organized, but there are no pretty greeters at the doorways. Sigh.

Title: Re: Saigon hi-end show.
Post by: JLM on 19 Sep 2016, 06:45 pm
5 minutes versus 15 minutes needed per room, not so different here. 

I've learned to start at the top and work my way down the stairs.

Small shows you can visit everything and have enough time, bigger shows you have to decide whether to give 5 minutes per room or concentrate on a pre-selected number of rooms.  Pros and cons each way.  5 minutes isn't enough for a decent listen to stuff you're interested in, but concentrating on a few rooms means you missed stuff you didn't know would be there.
Title: Re: Saigon hi-end show.
Post by: Guy 13 on 20 Sep 2016, 03:05 am
5 minutes versus 15 minutes needed per room, not so different here. 

I've learned to start at the top and work my way down the stairs.

Small shows you can visit everything and have enough time, bigger shows you have to decide whether to give 5 minutes per room or concentrate on a pre-selected number of rooms.  Pros and cons each way.  5 minutes isn't enough for a decent listen to stuff you're interested in, but concentrating on a few rooms means you missed stuff you didn't know would be there.

Hi JLM,
I know, even with a 15 minutes listening, how can you give an credible opinion.
Well, I did say in one of my first post, that I was not a good audio show reporter.
Next year, if I am still on planet Vietnam,
I will do more critical listening and less picture taking.
I might be wrong, but for me, if with the first few minutes you are not impressed,
then why continue ?
The two or three rooms that made me stay a little longer were
two home cinema set up and one fairly modest system.
In one of those rooms was a Samsung home cinema set up.
Looking at the components it was nothing to impress you.
A sound bar, aiming at the ceiling, two satellite speakers, probably two ways with 4 or 6'' woofer
and a separate subwoofer, maybe an 8'' and that's it.
But the sound was holographic, three D, I was really impressed,
which is rare on audio shows I go to.
The bass was different from the usual earth quake type,
more natural and I would say, less fatiguing.
The movie was The Transformer so a lot of crash, rumble, etc...
But it's the audio three D effect that caught me attention
and made me stay 15 minutes and during the whole demo session.
They had demo every 15 minutes to fill the room with people
and believe me the room was filled wall to wall.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=150616)

More later.

Title: Re: Saigon hi-end show.
Post by: Guy 13 on 20 Sep 2016, 12:36 pm
This one also impressed me,
but in a different way.
One of the most powerful bass, it made my chest vibrate to the music.
As usual, too loud, but no real distortion,
so still pleasant to listen.
Probably my Rythmik F12G could have done the same result.
Elec speakers.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=150625)