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The Commercial Zone => Industry Introductions => Topic started by: Rick Craig on 21 Oct 2020, 06:10 pm
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Here are the drivers for a new 3-way, the Dettaglio. SB Acoustics Satori 9.5" woofer. Accuton C168 midrange, and Bliesma T25B beryllium tweeter.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=216073)
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Interesting and exciting combination. Floorstanders or large standmounts?
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Interesting and exciting combination. Floorstanders or large standmounts?
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=216077)
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wow nice design. driver selection and the two cabinets per speaker seems pretty uncompromising and for serious business audiophiles
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(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=216077)
Oh! I didn’t make the connection to these cabinets. I’ll wager these are going to sound wonderful.
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Under test now...
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=216138)
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Hi Rick,
I believe I saw in a different post that the bass bin utilizes two passive radiators. Would you mind sharing your thoughts with your approach?
Did you consider using two WO24-8?
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Hi Rick,
I believe I saw in a different post that the bass bin utilizes two passive radiators. Would you mind sharing your thoughts with your approach?
Did you consider using two WO24-8?
Before starting on the design the owner had specified an overall height. I looked at different woofer / tuning combinations that would have reasonable cabinet sizes and good bass extension. Only one woofer would be used due to the cabinet volume and the passive radiators allowed a lower tuning. A port of the required length would have too much noise.
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Thank you so much for the detailed reply. It is much appreciated!
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Dettaglio!
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=216219)
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=216220)
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Wow it almost looks like a single enclosure
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Wow it almost looks like a single enclosure
In the spirit of that aesthetic, cutting the MT-section baffle's front veneer from the same piece of veneer as the W-section for an exact match might be worth a bit of extra scrap/waste?
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In the spirit of that aesthetic, cutting the MT-section baffle's front veneer from the same piece of veneer as the W-section for an exact match might be worth a bit of extra scrap/waste?
These were switched. I'll post the matching veneer set later.
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Voce D'Oro before finishing.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=216340)
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=216341)
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=216342)
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Rick, if you don't mind, I'd love to hear more about the covering shown. Laminate, synth veneer? I'm a sucker for unusual finishes.
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Rick, if you don't mind, I'd love to hear more about the covering shown. Laminate, synth veneer? I'm a sucker for unusual finishes.
It's Walnut Burl veneer - the real thing. :thumb:
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(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=216834)
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=216835)
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=216836)
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I notice a lot more passive radiators in your designs.. customer request or are more good ones available so you're taking advantage?
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I like the look. Sort of reminds me of the old Sequerra Metronome 7s docked on top of the woofer. I owned the 7s many moons ago but never got around to get the woofer or the super tweeter.
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I notice a lot more passive radiators in your designs.. customer request or are more good ones available so you're taking advantage?
It's really just a matter of what's needed for the design. Passive radiators are helpful when the box is smaller and needs a lower tuning. In these instances a port isn't practical due to the length required.
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Up next for testing. Voce D'Oro.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=216921)
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Rick! Is that the new mid dome (MD60N) from SB Acoustics?
This one is going to be good. Might it be offered as a DIY kit?
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Rick! Is that the new mid dome (MD60N) from SB Acoustics?
This one is going to be good. Might it be offered as a DIY kit?
Yes, that's the mid plus the Satori Textreme woofer. A kit is possible depending on the availability of the tweeter. It was drop-shipped to me by my customer. A black faceplate finish is also an option for the tweeter.
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What is the tweeter? Is it not the AMT from SB Acoustics?
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What is the tweeter? Is it not the AMT from SB Acoustics?
It's a ribbon tweeter from Gamut Magnetic Laboratories.
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You've been on a real creative/productive tear this year, Rick! I want at least three of your recent designs, but space, lack of spare change and WAF mean I must bide my time and drool a lot. :drool:
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Initial testing is done and crossover parts arrive the end of this week. Voce D' Oro.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=217103)
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=217104)
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You've been on a real creative/productive tear this year, Rick! I want at least three of your recent designs, but space, lack of spare change and WAF mean I must bide my time and drool a lot. :drool:
More news to tempt you - these 4.5" bad boys just arrived!
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=217167)
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:o :o
Rick,
I saw your FB post, so I know how these 4.5' puppies are likely to be used. However, I'm curious about another possibility. I'm not good at reading and understanding all the relevant specs, so pardon me if this is a silly question. Would it make sense to use the 4.5" Purifi drivers as midrange drivers in a three-way design?
Thanks!
Michael
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:o :o
Rick,
I saw your FB post, so I know how these 4.5' puppies are likely to be used. However, I'm curious about another possibility. I'm not good at reading and understanding all the relevant specs, so pardon me if this is a silly question. Would it make sense to use the 4.5" Purifi drivers as midrange drivers in a three-way design?
Thanks!
Michael
Yes, it could be used as a mid but I think a dedicated mid is in the works.
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Yes, it could be used as a mid but I think a dedicated mid is in the works.
I'm gobsmacked at all the driver/speakers possibilities - both present and future. 2021 should be a very interesting year. :popcorn:
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Not for me! Once I receive my Voce D'oro I'm retired from audio! that's the plan, anyway ;) I'm definitely not planning on building 10-20 rockwool acoustic panels... no sir
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Not for me! Once I receive my Voce D'oro I'm retired from audio! that's the plan, anyway ;) I'm definitely not planning on building 10-20 rockwool acoustic panels... no sir
I'm very curious about how that SBA midrange sounds. Please post a write up once it's broken in, okay? :thumb:
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So I gotta wonder: How come the Ceramica never seems to get any love? From what I can tell, it seems to hit a sweet spot in the lineup.
Anyone own it?
(Sorry if this is a bit off topic, come to think of it.)
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What would you like to know about the Ceramica?
Here is a link to my Ceramica build an album, I probably have the world's most unique Ceramica speaker. https://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?action=gallery;area=browse;album=27684 (https://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?action=gallery;area=browse;album=27684)
The only regret that I might have with the Ceramica was in the selection of the tweeter. Rick seemed to indicate that he thought the absolute best tweeter would have been BE dome by ScanSpeak, but I'm happy with the speakers as designed. (The audiophile will always wonder what if :lol: :lol:)
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Thanks. I'll have to take a look again. I run tubes primarily and use omegas and Vienna acoustics. I'm looking for something with a big soundstage with less warmth in that price range. I have a lot of time. I did notice another AC manufacturer offering something very similar recently, so the Ceramicas really are interesting to me.
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Bliesma beryllium tweeter, Purifi 4.5", and SB Acoustics passive radiator.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=218491)
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=218492)
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Clever placement of the PR. I'd thought the SBA driver was going to be a LF driver, but it's actually a PR. How low will the Purifi driver go in this configuration?
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Here's the initial nearfield test for the bass extension.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=218059)
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Here's a cool system photo sent to me by a customer. I designed new crossovers for his Altec / Great Plains Audio speakers.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=221025)
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The Voce D' Oro (Golden Voice).
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=221132)
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Nice looking speaker, Rick!
What sound characteristics have you achieved with the new Textron midwoofer? Can you tell us how this speaker's overall sound is different with this complement of drivers vs. using Ceramica woofer and midrange drivers (for example)?
Michael
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Nice looking speaker, Rick!
What sound characteristics have you achieved with the new Textron midwoofer? Can you tell us how this speaker's overall sound is different with this complement of drivers vs. using Ceramica woofer and midrange drivers (for example)?
Michael
Textreme has excellent detail and resolution. This design excels with image width and soundstage depth.
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Crossover in progress...
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=221799)
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That’s one big honking midrange dome! What is the driver compliment? All passive?
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That’s one big honking midrange dome!
Can it be painted red?
HonkHonk
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I remember the days of the Dynaudio D 76 AF domes. They were very popular at one time.
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That’s one big honking midrange dome! What is the driver compliment? All passive?
Purifi 6.5" woofers, SB Acoustics Satori dome midrange, and Bliesma 1" beryllium tweeter.
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I'm glad the bliesma and satori dome mid are good enough to be used in other designs. I really love how they sound in my selah voce d'oro.
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Some nice Waterfall Bubinga...
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=223950)
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=223951)
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Semi-throwback sealed design with Scan-Speak's classic drivers and a SB Acoustics Satori dome midrange. :thumb:
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=224778)
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The Ceramica floorstanders and matching center channel.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=225603)
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=225604)
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=225605)
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Futuro as built by a DIY customer.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=227325)
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Rick how do these sound? What drivers do these use? Thanks
Futuro as built by a DIY customer.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=227325)
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Rick how do these sound? What drivers do these use? Thanks
Really excellent - SB Acoustics Satori 9.5" woofer, Satori Textreme 5" midbass, and Bliesma 25mm beryllium tweeter.
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Rick,
I imagine this combination of drivers <with your XO skills added in> sounds amazing. Are the Futuros a sealed or a ported design? If ported, can the port be placed in the front baffle - or even ported downward?
What are the cabinet dimensions?
Michael
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Rick,
I imagine this combination of drivers <with your XO skills added in> sounds amazing. Are the Futuros a sealed or a ported design? If ported, can the port be placed in the front baffle - or even ported downward?
What are the cabinet dimensions?
Michael
Two rear passive radiators which are tuned low so placement near the rear wall isn't a problem. The cabinet is 37" x 11" x 12" (HxWxD) not counting the outriggers (or a plinth / base).
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Hmm. I like that there are PRs in back. Are they oval shaped or round?
In this cabinet, how low will the 9.5" woofer play?
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Hmm. I like that there are PRs in back. Are they oval shaped or round?
In this cabinet, how low will the 9.5" woofer play?
Two 8" round radiators. The tuning is the same as the Dettaglio (see attached nearfield graph). It's -3dB @35hz and -10dB @20hz (no room gain included).
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=227424)
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Sad news that Rick passed away from heart attack over the weekend. Can anyone else confirm?
https://www.diyaudio.com/forums/in-memoriam/376162-rip-rick-craig-selah-audio.html#post6763088
I saw him in June at a little audio meet. We had a great time.
You will be missed! RIP
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OMG. That is horrible. RIP
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I met Rick at an audio show many years ago. A most knowledgeable, nice, and totally down-to-earth guy. Condolences to his family. He'll be greatly missed be everyone.
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RIP
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aw, this is sad news. he was a real gentleman and super nice when he was making the voce d'oro speakers for me
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Wow. That is really bad news. Rick was a pleasure to talk to. He will be missed.