Bryston Amps

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« on: 4 Apr 2008, 08:00 am »
james,

mono blocks and 3 channel versions of the 2bsst, 3bsst would give a great flexibility for ht.

the 4 bsst as a mono version would be cool as well. i know that these amps can be bridged- but i wonder why bryston doesn't offer

just the ''regular'' mono version.

any plans for that?


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« Reply #1 on: 4 Apr 2008, 09:19 am »
a 4bsst monoblock would be a very cool move.
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« Reply #2 on: 4 Apr 2008, 10:49 am »
They have the powerpaks, 9bsst,and a zone amp already.

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« Reply #3 on: 4 Apr 2008, 11:39 am »
They have the powerpaks, 9bsst,and a zone amp already.

hi, jethro!


i know that there is the 9 bsst available from a 2 channel up to a 5 channel amp but not as a mono block- given that some customers

may want it as a single chassis amp. that way it will match cosmetically the c-series design. the same thing regarding the powerpaks. they

are nice amps but you cannot choose between silver or black.

btw- do the powerpaks have the trigger function? will check the website... :D

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« Reply #4 on: 4 Apr 2008, 03:34 pm »
Hi All,

The issue when you 'bridge' an amplifier is that it 'See's' 1/2 of the load impedance it normally See's in stereo.  So an 8 ohm load looks like 4 ohms , 4 ohms looks like 2 ohms etc.  The lower the impedance the more 'current' is required to be delivered to the load.

So if 'sound pressure' is your goal and the load impedance is not too low (like a sub for instance) then bridging a stereo amp works fine but if 'finesse' is the goal then I would suggest using a larger stereo amp instead of a bridged amp. 

In the case of the 4B I would suggest 2-7B's instead of a bridged 4B because the 7B is designed as a mono amp and is more comfortable with low impedance loads than a bridged 4B would be.

james



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« Reply #5 on: 4 Apr 2008, 08:38 pm »
I agree.....

Why should the concept of the benefits of a monoblock be limited to 600 & 1,000 WPC.

A set of Bryston monoblocks at 300 WPC (based on the 4B)? I'd be all over those in a heartbeat  :wink:

Perhaps a model based on the 4B, but with increased internal capacitance, etc. A 'souped up' version of the 4B...but in separate chassis.

I'd pre-order those things without even hearing them.

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« Reply #6 on: 5 Apr 2008, 12:09 am »
I think Bryston already has this covered with the PP300. Two of these are the equivalency to one 4B. The only thing is the PowerPacks run slightly warmer. These are an excellent solution for those that do not need 600-1000 WATTS but want the flexable placement of the like larger 7b's.

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« Reply #7 on: 5 Apr 2008, 12:59 am »
I think Bryston already has this covered with the PP300. Two of these are the equivalency to one 4B. The only thing is the PowerPacks run slightly warmer. These are an excellent solution for those that do not need 600-1000 WATTS but want the flexable placement of the like larger 7b's.

-Mark

hi, mark!

i think that the pp-amps are more a demand for those who need a direct attechment or adjacent placement to their loudspeakers.

wouldn't it be nice to have the choice between several mono blocks and 3 channel versions of the 2b, 3b, 4b and 9b ( not bridged) ?

let's say someone just wants a ''smaller'' powerful  5.1 system and orders  2x 2b as monoblocks and 1x 2b as a 3-channel version.


the same goes for the 3b, 4b and 9b... :wink:



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« Reply #8 on: 5 Apr 2008, 01:33 am »
Hi All,

The issue when you 'bridge' an amplifier is that it 'See's' 1/2 of the load impedance it normally See's in stereo.  So an 8 ohm load looks like 4 ohms , 4 ohms looks like 2 ohms etc.  The lower the impedance the more 'current' is required to be delivered to the load.

So if 'sound pressure' is your goal and the load impedance is not too low (like a sub for instance) then bridging a stereo amp works fine but if 'finesse' is the goal then I would suggest using a larger stereo amp instead of a bridged amp. 

In the case of the 4B I would suggest 2-7B's instead of a bridged 4B because the 7B is designed as a mono amp and is more comfortable with low impedance loads than a bridged 4B would be.

james




Thanks, James. I was thinking about buying another 4BSST and bridging them, rather than sell the 4b.

My speakers are rated at 8 ohms...however they do dip down to 4 ohms.

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« Reply #9 on: 20 Jul 2008, 05:05 pm »

 james,

 1) the pp60 isn't labeled as a sst amp. so it is not a sst amp?

 2) are pp120 and pp300 exactly compareable to 3b sst and 4b sst since the sst amps (c-series) were improved?

 alex.

 

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« Reply #10 on: 20 Jul 2008, 07:33 pm »

 james,

 1) the pp60 isn't labeled as a sst amp. so it is not a sst amp?

 2) are pp120 and pp300 exactly compareable to 3b sst and 4b sst since the sst amps (c-series) were improved?

 alex.

 


Hi Alex,

1.  Correct the PP60 is based on the 2B LP amplifier and is not SST.
2.The newer versions of the PP120 and the PP300 are SST designs.

james

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« Reply #11 on: 20 Jul 2008, 07:39 pm »

 thanx, james! :green:

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« Reply #12 on: 16 Nov 2008, 12:14 pm »

 james,

 1) the pp60 isn't labeled as a sst amp. so it is not a sst amp?

 2) are pp120 and pp300 exactly compareable to 3b sst and 4b sst since the sst amps (c-series) were improved?

 alex.

 


Hi Alex,

1.  Correct the PP60 is based on the 2B LP amplifier and is not SST.
2.The newer versions of the PP120 and the PP300 are SST designs.

james


James,

the Bryston website (brochure power pack comparison chart) indicates the PP60 as an SST amp.

so it became a 'SST' in the meantime?


al.

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« Reply #13 on: 16 Nov 2008, 12:20 pm »

 james,

 1) the pp60 isn't labeled as a sst amp. so it is not a sst amp?

 2) are pp120 and pp300 exactly compareable to 3b sst and 4b sst since the sst amps (c-series) were improved?

 alex.

 


Hi Alex,

1.  Correct the PP60 is based on the 2B LP amplifier and is not SST.
2.The newer versions of the PP120 and the PP300 are SST designs.

james


James,

the Bryston website (brochure power pack comparison chart) indicates the PP60 as an SST amp.

so it became a 'SST' in the meantime?


al.

Hi Alex,

No the PP60 is the same as the 2B-LP so it is not an SST design.
I will change the website.

james

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« Reply #14 on: 14 Dec 2008, 02:28 pm »
I agree.....

Why should the concept of the benefits of a monoblock be limited to 600 & 1,000 WPC.

A set of Bryston monoblocks at 300 WPC (based on the 4B)? I'd be all over those in a heartbeat  :wink:

Perhaps a model based on the 4B, but with increased internal capacitance, etc. A 'souped up' version of the 4B...but in separate chassis.

I'd pre-order those things without even hearing them.

a 4bsst monoblok great

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« Reply #15 on: 14 Dec 2008, 09:22 pm »
How about a 4bSST with say 100 more watts?

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« Reply #16 on: 14 Dec 2008, 09:29 pm »
How about a 4bSST with say 100 more watts?

Hi Dave,

You have to 'double' the power before the ear will detect a difference so going from 300 watts on the 4B to 400 watts would not buy you much.

james

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« Reply #17 on: 14 Dec 2008, 09:35 pm »
I see. Thank you.