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Title: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: FullRangeMan on 25 Apr 2018, 11:28 pm
Willkommen in Deutschland!!
This topic is all about Krautrock :thumb:

Krautrock is 1970s years, Progressive, Hard Rock, Acoustics, Avant-garde and every cerebral music few related to toe tapping.

Krautrock is German Rock, Hybrid, Esquizofrenic, Contemporary...
GURU GURU: UFO - 1970 Full Album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVqkSPvSS6I
This CD sound great in a friend system that have vintage speakers with 15'' woofers I selected to replacement.
Krautrock bands welcome, alfidersen!
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Post by: Rick Craig on 25 Apr 2018, 11:31 pm
The is a remastered box set from Brain (also on Tidal / Spotify) that has many great German bands.
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Post by: Mag on 26 Apr 2018, 03:23 am
Redshift: is a British group that plays Krautrock.

I have a couple of their albums but 'Ether' is in my regular rotation. I describe it as ambient and consider it one of my best albums.

Redshift-Ether

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=179368)
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Post by: FullRangeMan on 26 Apr 2018, 04:05 am
Brian Eno?
I will look into Redshift, thanks.
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Post by: Mag on 26 Apr 2018, 05:38 am
Brian Eno, no.
I have many Tangerine Dream albums Livemiles being my favorite. I listen quite often to dvd 'Live in Lisbon 2010' which is a montage of their work over the years. Also have 'Live in London' but the recording is not as good as Lisbon.

Have quite a few Gary Numan, listened to him a lot in the '80 but now only listen to 'Living Ornaments '80). Also have 'Living Ornaments '79' but I prefer the up tempo of '80.

Listened to Kraftwerk quite a bit 'Trans Europe Express' now I only listen to 'Autobaun'. As well as Vangelis, Yanni, Ron Boots, David Arkenstone, Jarre, Michael Garrison, some Neuronium, Klaus Shultze, Trance, and I guess Emerson, Lake & Palmer- Show that Never Ends fits into electronic music catagory.
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: FullRangeMan on 26 Apr 2018, 05:54 am
The is a remastered box set from Brain (also on Tidal / Spotify) that has many great German bands.
This is the Brain Box Set:
https://www.amazon.com/Brain-Box-Cerebral-Records-1972-1979/dp/B01ISTBGYS
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Post by: FullRangeMan on 26 Apr 2018, 06:01 am
Tange Soundtracks are great, I like Thief, Heart Breakers, firestarter, Flash Point, Wavelenght well I like many them.
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Post by: Mike B. on 26 Apr 2018, 04:03 pm
I was a fan of the Scorpions. Do they fit the bill?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzwsTEXgbNM
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: Mag on 27 Apr 2018, 06:23 am
Yes and No
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Post by: FullRangeMan on 27 Apr 2018, 06:26 am
The first track on that Brain Box Set is Scorpions:
Disc: 1
  1. Scorpions 'Leave Me'

On disc 4 there is:
5. Atomic Rooster 'Time Take My Life'
that is a UK band which had Carl Palmer on drums.
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: ohenry on 27 Apr 2018, 07:13 am
Triumvirat

Good recordings, good content.  Get some.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmTZpQYMzN8
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: Mag on 27 Apr 2018, 08:07 am
Tangerine Dream- Live in Lisbon 2010
I listened to this on Youtube and the recording is as good as the dvd.
Link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thpd59FmvAE
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: Photon46 on 27 Apr 2018, 10:45 am
Just purchased Kraftwerks 12345678 3-D, excellent! Really good sounding cd, great recordings from their last live tour. Some aspects of these recordings sound even better than the original vinyl releases.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=179415)
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: FullRangeMan on 27 Apr 2018, 09:30 pm
On of the best music albums I had listened was Ralf & Florian, the sound on LP was great also. I used to listen to this 33rpm LP in 45rpm, this is the original version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMdd1B9Q1wg
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b9/30/32/b930325ad756ecb9745a5165f70c8f06--music-icon-music-people.jpg)
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: Syrah on 29 Apr 2018, 09:52 pm
When I first got in to Wilco I read they were really influenced from the Krautrock band Neu!  So I started listening to Neu!  So good.  Amazing they were that much ahead of their time.  Listen to Spiders by Wilco.  Then listen to Neu!  Imitation is the highest form of flattery.
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Post by: FullRangeMan on 29 Apr 2018, 11:48 pm
In 1971 when Michael Rother and Klaus Dinger left Kraftwerk they formed NEU.
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Post by: Syrah on 30 Apr 2018, 12:24 am
Interesting.  I did not know that.
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Post by: mix4fix on 30 Apr 2018, 12:27 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWUiLJnEYJI
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Post by: kevin360 on 30 Apr 2018, 02:27 am
In January of 1981, I thumbed through the bins of a shallplatten geschäft (record store in Germany) for the first time. Here's a cut from one of the albums I purchased that day. I bought it because of the album cover, just as I did with the other selections I made - I had no idea what I was buying. The singing in English surprised me with this album, but I really liked it - bought another copy for later in life which I still haven't opened. This thread has prompted me to do just that. Here's to old times!

Jane - Daytime https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9_mg-nFA7E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9_mg-nFA7E)
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: FullRangeMan on 4 May 2018, 01:55 am
I have had no one CD from Jane so far, a shame, many prog rock fans though Jane was a Romantic Pop band due the female name.

His sound was a bit similar to Genesis so on the puchase time I have always opted for other band, since there is so many options on Krautrock.

On that time imported CDs were top money, $25USD each at an hi exchange rate.
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: FullRangeMan on 4 May 2018, 05:51 am
A youtube channel dedicated to Kraftwerk:
https://www.youtube.com/user/m1044/featured
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Post by: Kenneth Patchen on 4 May 2018, 01:31 pm
In the late 1970s, I was at a party in NYC and Rother was there. He rather stiffly corrected my mispronunciation of Neu. Neu is pronounced ‘Noy’ and not as ‘New’ as I was pronouncing it. I have a limited command of lanquage and did not know that.
I am not like a smart person.

I pretty much missed Krautrock. However, I am a fan of Cluster and the Eno/Cluster collaborations, influential but not directly related. I am also a fan of Karlheinz Stockhausen, directly related to almost everything.
Karlheinz Stockhausen was a major influence on krautrock. CAN’s Irmin Schmidt and Holger Czukay were in fact students of Stockhausen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePBB-NO8vKg&sns=em

Also indirectly related, the Boss. When Bruce first hit big in early 70s with his photo on TIME and Jon Landau (?) proclaiming “I have seen the future of rock and roll and it is Bruce Sprinsteen”, the Boss reportedly replied,
“I have seen the future of rock and roll and it is Kraftwerk.”

I think he was kidding.
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Post by: BobRex on 4 May 2018, 04:28 pm
Does ELOY count?  I'm a big fan of their 70's stuff.
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Post by: FullRangeMan on 4 May 2018, 09:35 pm
It was discourteous of Rother correct your pronunciation,
he could just say ''noy'' and you already realize the right
name pronunciation. The Neumann mikes also are the same.

NEU! was a short life band, it was know that Klaus Dinger and
Rother had a rough relationship, that you now confirmed, they
recorded only 3 albums: Neu! -  Neu! 2 - Neu! 75
The band name still had officially an interrogation point!

Music for a rainy day:
Cluster & Eno (Full Album) 1977
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOCSkXzLRJs
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: kevin360 on 6 May 2018, 03:53 am
I have had no one CD from Jane so far, a shame, many prog rock fans though Jane was a Romantic Pop band due the female name.

His sound was a bit similar to Genesis so on the puchase time I have always opted for other band, since there is so many options on Krautrock.

On that time imported CDs were top money, $25USD each at an hi exchange rate.

I did pick up a copy of 'Together' on CD, but it's strictly vinyl for the rest of their albums. On that same first trip to a German record store, I bought 'Sommerabend' by Novalis and 'Timewind' by Klaus Schulze. I was rather pleased with the lot. Over the years I lived there, I found a pretty large selection of great music that I doubt I would have ever heard if I had lived my entire life in the US. Then again, thanks to YouTube, I've found a great deal of incredible music from all over the world.
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: Terry U on 10 May 2018, 05:06 am
In the late 1970s, I was at a party in NYC and Rother was there. He rather stiffly corrected my mispronunciation of Neu. Neu is pronounced ‘Noy’ and not as ‘New’ as I was pronouncing it. I have a limited command of lanquage and did not know that.
I am not like a smart person.

I pretty much missed Krautrock. However, I am a fan of Cluster and the Eno/Cluster collaborations, influential but not directly related. I am also a fan of Karlheinz Stockhausen, directly related to almost everything.
Karlheinz Stockhausen was a major influence on krautrock. CAN’s Irmin Schmidt and Holger Czukay were in fact students of Stockhausen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePBB-NO8vKg&sns=em


Rother's collaboration in 1973 thru 1976 with Roedelius and Moebius  that resulted in the  Harmonium releases Musik Von Harmonium and Deluxe are some of my favorite Krautrock....
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: FullRangeMan on 10 May 2018, 10:26 pm
Does ELOY count?  I'm a big fan of their 70's stuff.
Certainly Eloy is a finest Krautrock band, it came a time that I had all the Eloy CDs so due I feel it was a bit commercial music like Omega or Hawkwind, I keep only Ocean and trade the other CDs for ones from Larry Fast, it was not a smart move as the Eloy discs were original Germany Electrola.
Eloy - Ocean 1977 Full Album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI8b6GQ5C80
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Post by: FullRangeMan on 15 May 2018, 03:53 am
(http://www.progarchives.com/progressive_rock_discography_band/riechmann.jpg)
Wolfgang Riechmann music is highly original, simple, hypnotic and ethereal, resulting in music of extraordinary beauty. He started his musical career in 1966 or 1969 according sources, after playing with Michael Rother and Wolfgang Flür in a school band both later famous with Kraftwerk and Neu, Riechmann then became member of an other Düsseldorf located band called Streetmark.

In the end of 1977 he started working on his solo album Wunderbar which was released by SKY Records, unfortunately 3 weeks before the album release he was killed by two drunk guys who stabbed him to death without reason just to "letting off steam" after a dispute with the landlord of the local pub, as the murderer later say in the court. RIP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45gOZQMa1es&feature=youtu.be
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a4/4a/08/a44a08e706dcd9b0c3f627903e1b9ef3.jpg)
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: FullRangeMan on 28 May 2018, 07:40 am
Kraftwerk: Autobahn by classical Ensemble REI:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbedpoWDPiQ
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: Russell Dawkins on 30 May 2018, 07:59 am
I was a fan of the Scorpions. Do they fit the bill?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzwsTEXgbNM

I heard that the Scorpions sued the producers of Spinal Tap, thinking the movie was refering to them, but can't find proof. In looking, though, I found this little item about an obscure Canadian band who were like a real live Spinal Tap. Please excuse the side track:
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/features/anvil-the-real-life-spinal-tap-1631172.html
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: BobRex on 30 May 2018, 05:19 pm
Hmm, I thought that Spinal Tap was a spoof on Uriah Heep.  I seem to remember reading something about that way back when.
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Post by: simoon on 30 May 2018, 10:40 pm
Yes and No


The Scorpions are not really considered Krautrock, despite being a German rock band.

Krautrock usually refers to bands that were somewhat experimental, avant-garde, psychedelic or progressive.
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Post by: soundbitten1 on 31 May 2018, 01:47 am
Hmm, I thought that Spinal Tap was a spoof on Uriah Heep.  I seem to remember reading something about that way back when.
I thought it was Deep Purple?   :D
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Post by: Wind Chaser on 31 May 2018, 04:08 am
And I thought it was Anvil.
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Post by: FullRangeMan on 31 May 2018, 03:11 pm
Dramatic video showing how Kraftwerk plays ''live'' music today(2015):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_7URJHwduE
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Post by: Kenneth Patchen on 31 May 2018, 05:47 pm
Slightly off-topic but indirectly related, this in today’s Guardian about Irmin Schmidt and CAN:

'I grew up in total ruins': Irmin Schmidt of Can on LSD, mourning and musical adventures

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2018/may/31/i-grew-up-in-total-ruins-irmin-schmidt-of-can-on-lsd-mourning-and-musical-adventures?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: FullRangeMan on 3 Jun 2018, 04:18 am
Irmin Schmidt is a talented composer one of my favor solo albums is Toy Planet with the Swiss saxophonist Bruno Spoerri:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSlmAGwjW2k
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Post by: FullRangeMan on 9 Jun 2018, 10:29 am
Ralf Hütter run for his life:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-DXZWHXXTM
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Post by: FullRangeMan on 9 Jun 2018, 10:58 pm
41 minutes of Autobahn live:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNjwJLDic3o
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Post by: Mag on 9 Jun 2018, 11:23 pm
That version of Autobaun is painful to listen to.

Here's the link to the CD version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbKAHr6H9fs
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Post by: FullRangeMan on 12 Jun 2018, 12:18 am
Non interview with Florian Schneider 1998-São Paulo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wUt1fIymB4
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Post by: ohenry on 12 Jun 2018, 12:46 am
Kraut?  It seems that this forum has no tolerance for certain derogatory terms and overlooks others.
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Post by: FullRangeMan on 13 Jun 2018, 11:52 pm
Why Florian Schneider left Kraftwerk:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-haWSy43Ks
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Post by: GRACE RUBY on 13 Feb 2019, 08:34 am
Does ELOY count?  I'm a big fan of their 70's stuff.

when many of these bands where unknown to most of the world and while "Dark Side of the Moon" was a Hit,  ELOYS "Wings Of Vision" was one of the No.1 songs in psychedelic German rock college radio, even out selling Floyd's "Dark Side" in Germany.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGqJBeMAR9o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGqJBeMAR9o)

AMON DUUL 2

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=190506)

But the band of all bands IMHO was AMON DUUL 11
They drew upon Fritz Lang, Kubrick, Da Vinci and Dali with amazing grace, their last hit song was only about five years ago, they still do grateful dead like tours as of last year 2018
These are artist's artist. An opera singer, a violinist, three organist, two percussionist, banjo, saxophones, and two guitars and moogs every where next to mellotrons.
with titles like-
"Viva Le Trance"
"First National Church Of Marilyn Monroe" 
"Wolf City"
"Harvest in Babylon"
 these were poets, I almost never saw a band put so much melody and thunder in a single song as "Metropolis"


(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=190516)


Always promoting, monogamy, patience, the art of being a real friend, sacred respect for women,
and in the middle of a explosion of Chain saw electronic rock theme,,,, go so melodic it almost was a mirical,
their art was at once feminine, mystic and Shakespeare.
And in songs like "Loosey Girls" the singer would cry for the lonely lost women of the world.
"Morning Excuse" is about irresponsible women, I have never heard a "Sound" like this song makes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChzqIyKfLjQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChzqIyKfLjQ)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbIw2HZRnF4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbIw2HZRnF4)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol0U4dDScrE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol0U4dDScrE)

Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: FullRangeMan on 13 Feb 2019, 07:58 pm
Good reminder Ruby, this Morning Excuse is a great arangement song too bad its a short song, inovative even today, I loved it.
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Post by: GRACE RUBY on 14 Feb 2019, 06:23 am
Kraut?  It seems that this forum has no tolerance for certain derogatory terms and overlooks others.

I AM ALL FOR WHAT YOUR SAYING BROTHER and thank you for speaking your peace,

more should

But for many German artist Krautrock is their proud

"Healed Singing For Love Phoenix Up from the Ashes"

it is a common proud phrase.

They have affected music all over the world.



METROPOLIS GIRL ALL OVER THE WORLD


(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=190552)


Cardigan, Wales NOVEMBER 2018




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Post by: GRACE RUBY on 14 Feb 2019, 06:43 am

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=190557)



Good reminder Ruby, this Morning Excuse is a great arrangement song too bad its a short song, innovative even today, I loved it.

Viva La Trance was AMON DUUL 2's  magical mystery Tour album. songs like "A Morning Excuse"(see link above)

were the birth pain of "Romantic Art Nuvo New Wave"

members of this band went on to be part of/or directly responsible for and/or played on -

Popal Vue
Embryo
Psychedelic Furs
Passport
Opal
Billy Idol
Simple Minds
Donna Summer
ICE HOUSE
Blondie

FLASH DANCE
GHOST BUSTERS
BEVERLY HILLS COP
THE BREAKFAST CLUB
METROPOLIS restored


(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=190556)
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Post by: Mag on 24 Dec 2019, 01:23 am
A cd album I enjoy listening to from 1993, The Uncertainty Principle by Ian Boddy. Described as progressive electronic/progressive rock. The music is sort of ambient creating a relaxing mood, but there is some creative moments that IMO are brilliant, which is why I like listening to it, a mix somewhat like Michael Garrison & Tangerine Dream.


(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=202412)

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Post by: FullRangeMan on 24 Dec 2019, 03:13 am
Thanks Mag for the tip, I will look it.
We are in need of a new Tangerine.
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Post by: FullRangeMan on 27 Feb 2020, 08:46 am
New exciting version of Phaedra from the German masters:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOi1ZesVfU0
Obviously this pristine recording was not performed at the Virgin1974 low budget.
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Post by: Mag on 27 Feb 2020, 09:11 am
I use to have a box set on vinyl of Tangerine Dream's early years which I gave to a friend. I was not keen on their early work but there was some good stuff.

I have quite a few Tangerine Dream albums, the ones I like are the ones I play.

Tangerine Dream Live in Lisbon as well as London and I think Berlin is sort of a montage of all there work in shorter clips you know just the theme of the songs. Lisbon is the best recording of the three and is the one I listen to which is about a 3 hour concert dvd.
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: FullRangeMan on 27 Feb 2020, 09:29 am
Some time a go I intended to start buying some Tangerine Tree as CD #91 or 92(Logos Live) but dolar change went rocket with this new gov.
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Post by: FullRangeMan on 7 Apr 2020, 09:12 am
Want to wish a great Happy Birthday to our dear Christopher Franke(06APR1953) composer, percussion and keyboards at the German seminal band Tangerine Dream on its best years 1971-1987.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Franke
(https://assets.mycast.io/actor_images/actor-christopher-franke-18964_large.jpeg?1578326543)
(https://lastfm.freetls.fastly.net/i/u/770x0/a66df1ce34990b80606b880ac39dce5d.webp#a66df1ce34990b80606b880ac39dce5d)
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Post by: daledeee on 13 Apr 2020, 01:56 am
I at one time had many German import albums of the bands you speak of in this thread.  Now that I have my streaming service through my high end system, I am able to find some fun stuff.  Cluster and Eno, Kraftwerk, Tangerine Dream, Can, Neu, Van de Graaf Generator.  It brings back memories and shows that these bands helped start it all.  Well.. a few others as well.  I played Kraftwerk to a 21 yr old the other day who likes electronic music and he couldn't believe it when I told him it was recorded.
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Post by: FullRangeMan on 13 Apr 2020, 02:43 am
Kraftwerk is a nice band. Show him Rastakraut Pasta (Mœbius & Plank) 1980.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cCNuSU5ncs
Or Kamikaze 1989 soundtrack, Fassbinder died of overdose short after the film release in June 1982.
RIP
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Post by: EvilGnome6 on 15 Apr 2020, 05:37 pm
Krautrock bands in my collection:

Amon Duul II
Ash Ra Tempel
Brainticket
Can
Dom
Eiliff
Electric Orange
Faust
Gila
Guru Guru
Kolektiv
NEU!
Pancake
Popol Vuh
Prosper
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Post by: FullRangeMan on 27 Apr 2020, 08:05 am
From Tangerine Dream April 2020 Newsletter:
Dear TD friend,
We're all about positivity at this trying time - music definitely makes us feel better (if we like what we hear!:) and we would be happy to contribute to this positive sense of life with our new Eastgate release:

KLANGTRAUBE - Edgar Froese Memorial Day 2019 (EFMD)
A live album of the 4th EFMD concert with the participation of well-known musicians of the electronic music genre like Hans-Joachim Roedelius, Thorsten Quaeschning, Hoshiko Yamane and Paul Frick will be released on 30th April 2020. The event - a mixture of concert, reading and art exhibition - took place on 26th January 2019 at the historically significant Ballhaus Rixdorf in Berlin. Many TD friends from all over Europe joined this special evening commemorating Edgar Froese's life work. Please get more details on the album under the following link.
https://www.edgarfroese.de/shop/products.php?p=b52d06/b]
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Post by: FullRangeMan on 6 May 2020, 05:50 pm
A sad day to German music.
I very sorry to infom Florian Schneider Esleben from Kraftwerk passed away at age 73 of cancer. The information was confirmed to The Guardian by one of the musical collaborators who reported Florian died a week ago and was buried only in the presence of family and close friends. Florian left Kraftwerk in 2008.
RIP
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/may/06/florian-schneider-kraftwerk-co-founder-dies-aged-73
Florian with the Brazilian punk singer Roxxy Bione:
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=208488)
Florian on upright bass along other famous German musicians:
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=70830)
Ralf & Florian album 1973:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/1172/1123787998_16af8d3f24_z.jpg)
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Post by: FullRangeMan on 7 May 2020, 12:42 am
I found that this suit Florian used in the campaign Stop Plastic Pollution 2015 was made from recycled plastic.
RIP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7KwP-PZdHI
(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/E87D/production/_112171595_kraftget3.jpg)
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: FullRangeMan on 7 May 2020, 07:17 pm
As a side note, Roxxy posted a kind msg on her FB:
Roxxy Bione
Yesterday at 9:15 AM ·
Oh no How Sad ist that! Florian, i am😶Speechless, you gone, i grown up with you and Little Robots Friends @kraftwerkofficial , once a have the pleasure to meet you and Ralf was a for me like a Dream and this i will never ever ever Forget, thank you so much for the music you always be i my heart and in my music for ever! Idol ! You are so kind and lovely always. Master RIP#kraftwerk
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: alexone on 4 Feb 2021, 08:18 pm
Hi, FullRangeMan!

Nice to see a Krautrock section here at AC!

try the following:

Da Capo - same (1972, later in 1988 reissued by 'Little Wing Of Refugees') the song ''Future'' is one of my favourites
Jane - Lady (1975, Brain Records)
Tractor - same (1972, Dandelion Records) NOT a German Band but certainly worth to give it a listen - especially the song ''Little Girl In Yellow'' !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

....just to name a few

best,

al.
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: FullRangeMan on 4 Feb 2021, 10:03 pm
Hi Al,
Nice to see a Krautrock fan here, I will see these suggestions on YT Thanks.  I had a friend that was a Jane fan.
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: alexone on 7 Feb 2021, 07:31 pm

...i saw Jane LIVE on stage. what a rare event :wink: too sad that Peter Panka died already a few years ago...

al.
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: FullRangeMan on 7 Feb 2021, 08:24 pm
...i saw Jane LIVE on stage. what a rare event :wink: too sad that Peter Panka died already a few years ago...

al.
Really sorry to know.
RIP
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: FullRangeMan on 1 Apr 2021, 08:21 am
Hi Grace Ruby,
Hope everything is fine with you on these days.
After some stellar quality albums as these:
Gila - Free Electric Sound - 1971
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUkWZSWWh-c
Gila - Night Works - 1972
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xuyC0YtBW0

Gila released a awful album in 1973
named Bury my Heart at Wounded Knee
based on the organized American Indians massacre, It has nothing to do with the prog rock music of others Gila albums, so some years ago I discovered why, it have Florian Fricke on piano and knowing that Fricke after this album starting in 1974 spend 7 years on Tibet and released several albums with similar mediocre music all poorly recorded on cassete tape based on his Tibetan life, its not difficult to assume that Fricke composed the music of Bury album and used the band to record it, IMO its the worst Gila album, after Tibet Fricke dedicated himself to musico therapy and leave keyboards and recorded only with acoustic piano since.

So I wonder know your opinion about the Bury album below and also from others members music lovers to know if its just me or this album is bad indeed:
Gila - Bury my Heart at Wounded Knee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylw0yl0fq1w&list=PLRQKT-Cu2_2RqXqXhsMm6ca1d_inaGGpd

Gila line-up 1973>
Front: Cony Veidt, Sabine Merbach,
Back: Florian Fricke, Daniel Fichelscher.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/EA2XuktV780/hqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: FullRangeMan on 4 Oct 2021, 12:43 am
Malcolm Mooney meets Damo Suzuki (1988) with Jaki Liebezeit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnVBlPv-tAk
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: klaus@odyssey on 4 Oct 2021, 09:40 am
Just saw this thread....

I'm from Hannover,  and in my old neighborhood lived three of the most prominent bands in Germany at that time......Scorpions, Jane and Eloy...seen a lot of German bands at that time of course,  and met Klaus Meine / Rudolf etc.  when I was 14 and they didn't blow up yet....small concert, yes, but Rudi picked me up onto the stage and I played air guitar next to him....after the concert talked with the boys in the dressing room,  and then the girls came ...and Klaus had to go.

Eloy was also a VERY special concert in '75 or '76  in Wolfsburg...was supposed to be a Hannover night,  but due to a snow storm only Eloy showed up....and as a result  only about a 100 people were in attendance in a 3,000 or so (standing capacity) concert hall...after a 2 hours concert they were somewhat forced / heheheheeee/  to 8..(eight )  long encores....hours...awesome.

Unfortunately,  never saw Jane even though the boys were in the same student bars we went to.....you know,  alternative,  long haired, etc.  Was a great scene, and even when Punk and New Wave started in the early 80's, it was a diverse and creative scene (figure Hannover being a smaller version of Berlin in many ways...e.g. Bowie in his Berlin Triology years stayed in Hannover for long periods of time together with Iggy.....or some REALLY small bars full with headliners...like Roger Chapman keep dropping in for some gigs, etc)


Anyway,  a wonderful blast from the past.....but I have to say that Jane is by far my most favorite German band and in my top 5, period....

Anybody should check out the studio version of Daytime,  the record s Together and Live at home  ...just ridiculously good.
When Jane split into oh so many different versions etc.  one of the great things that came out was Harlis with Jane's Charlie Maucher.  Also wonderfully melodic.  Klaus Hesse who was the founding member and driving force has never gained any more success after leaving Jane,  but I think that he still keeps the flame alive as the only one after Peter's death.

And yes,  brain was at the forefront and they issued tons of "boxes"  etc.....they are awesome overall, and quite expensive  if you can find them...yes,  Krautrock was very special,  but let's be honest,  there was also a boatload of shit out there..........

I would also encourage everybody to find Grobschnitt's Solar Music  live on youtube......

Lastly,  and sadly, Charlie died a couple of years ago after relocating to Canada........Jane rocked !!!!
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: Jack the cat on 4 Oct 2021, 01:39 pm

I would also encourage everybody to find Grobschnitt's Solar Music  live on youtube......

........Jane rocked !!!!

 :thumb:
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: FullRangeMan on 5 Oct 2021, 12:56 am
Thanks for your first hand report Klaus.
Per chance do you would know why Ralf Hütter never allowed the release of Ralf & Florian(1973) album in CD/Sacd?
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: klaus@odyssey on 5 Oct 2021, 03:07 am
No idea.......never been a big fan of Synth music,  even though I have to admit that TD has had really great moments, and, of course so does Autobahn
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: FullRangeMan on 18 Oct 2021, 03:27 am
Just found it, extended version of the classic album Phaedra 57 min.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2kHODGCq5k
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: djray on 25 Oct 2021, 03:53 am
Krautrock!!!  Started listening in the very early 70s and continue today.  Some groups not mentioned are Faust, Cluster, Harmonia, Amon Duul (brief mention), Edgar Froese solo work (Edgar was with Tangerine Dream) and Grobschnitt.  Prices for original records of these groups are through the stratosphere (also the name of a Tangerine Dream album).

Many people are not familiar with the first two Kraftwerk albums.  These albums have road cones on the covers, one album has orange cones and the other album has green cones.  This is electronic music that will stun you! 
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: FullRangeMan on 25 Oct 2021, 04:26 am
Monique Froese rare interview.
RIP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxuRSop4ea0
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: FullRangeMan on 29 Oct 2021, 06:40 pm
Wonderful video from Western Electric:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJxCzrqF1_s
Official:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5MHIh7t9jE
Live:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4O9Iv8rhWU
Cover:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPWdLP-3enw
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: FullRangeMan on 31 Oct 2021, 03:45 am
TD was doing film soundtrack so early as 1971:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3-83fTszRc
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: FullRangeMan on 5 Nov 2021, 11:26 pm
Best Phaedra remix I have heard so far:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyZtTTlKO8o
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: Jack the cat on 6 Nov 2021, 12:05 am
Missed all other vinyl releases of Zeit, have the latest RE on order......
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: FullRangeMan on 6 Nov 2021, 12:28 am
Still there is the pictured vinyl Reims Cathedral 1974.
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: Jack the cat on 6 Nov 2021, 12:49 am
Not crazy about pic discs. Have you heard it?
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: FullRangeMan on 6 Nov 2021, 01:40 am
Not the vinyl, just the CD, sound OK for the time.
Seems the vinyl master is digital as usual currently.
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: FullRangeMan on 3 Jan 2022, 04:24 am
Tangerine Dream - Poland Warsaw - 1983 Live.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcM2BNZGHlw
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: FullRangeMan on 2 Apr 2022, 11:25 pm
Alpha 3 is the one-man project/band from the brazilian producer/keyboardist Amir Cantúsio Jr, this album Sombras 1986:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZmXhE-RKXc
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: FullRangeMan on 20 May 2022, 12:15 am
Roxy Music Country Life 1974 album cover with Eveline Grunwald(Michael Karoli girlfriend with red coat) and Contanze Karoli sister of Michael Karoli guitarist with Can.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=240796)
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: FullRangeMan on 20 May 2022, 01:19 am
And since we are with Michael Karoli today, in 30Sep1973 they had to play hastily at Top of the Pops UK TV Show but as Karoli was in Africa on vacation another guitarist was hired who played well enough and even played bowed guitar, except he could not get his pedals right. LOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9nFglCyshY
Title: Klaus Schulze Passes Away
Post by: Mag on 23 May 2022, 12:46 am
Klaus Schulze passes away at age 74 on April 26, 2022.
Pioneer of electronic music released over 60 albums. IMO 'X' was a strong influence towards Trance music, perhaps the first of that genre.

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/klaus-schulze-electronic-music-pioneer-dead-obit-1343613/
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: FullRangeMan on 23 May 2022, 01:05 am
Very sad news, I didnot know about his passing earlier.
I have two cartoon boxes of his vintage albums which come around 40, unfortunately none released in SACD, sound quality was not great in the 1980/90s with digital keyboards and DAT master tape.
RIP
(https://www.spirit-of-rock.com/les%20goupes/K/Klaus%20schulze/pics/843c_2.jpg)
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: FullRangeMan on 23 May 2022, 11:55 pm
One of Krautrock big questions was why did CAN ended?
I knew from other sources that the guys in the band didn't want to pay the royalties for the songs written by Rosco Gee on the last two CAN albums.

And the songs written by Rosco are really wonderful and he was a very prolific songwriter in CAN, Rebop composed nothing in CAN and died early at 38 on 12Jan1983. Damo Suzuki left the band soon for the same reason but didn't say anything, stayed silent.

Michael Karoli disclosed it in his own way to E&MM in March1983:
https://www.muzines.co.uk/articles/michael-karoli-on-guitar-improvisation/5919
"By the time of the last LP the group had new members who came from a world where a piece is written by one person and the person who has written it gets the credits and the money. Can when it was really Can has always rejected that idea totally. Single characters making their own music was all that was left, and on the last album everybody went their own way, everybody opened up and did things that possibly they wouldn't otherwise have done. I'm just talking about a general feeling, not specific pieces. For instance, on one track I put a short wave radio sound which was later vocoded by the voice — or which later vocoded the voice, whichever you say! — and the whole thing became really personal and all ideas of being commercial were dropped. It was clear by then, Holger having left, that somehow the band didn't exist any more."
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: FullRangeMan on 5 Dec 2022, 03:13 am
Just found this hilarious Tangerine Dream clone Heavy Metal parody/comedy, the guys shake heads like a woodpecker, incredible:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zp9mo10TJ9o
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: FullRangeMan on 20 Jan 2023, 04:47 am
Just found a exciting new version from Logos Live concert:
Tangerine Dream - Dominion Theatre Concert
London 06Nov1982

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ-yszi8q1M
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: Mag on 6 May 2023, 12:01 pm
  As many of you know my favorite Tangerine Dream album is Livemiles. Often overlooked though is side two if you have the LP.
This song starts with a boring introduction that lasts for several minutes before it kicks in. Then we get a beautiful display of polyphonic synth work, which ranks up there with some of the best synth music I've heard. Give it a listen if you can stream it.:inlove:

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=252629)
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: FullRangeMan on 15 May 2023, 02:04 pm
Great prog album with impromptu tracks from 1974:
https://agitationfree.com/en/diskografie/fragments/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0HZG3ME9cA
(https://agitationfree.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/Fragments_CD_front_600x540-556x500.jpg)
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Post by: Yog Sothoth on 16 May 2023, 01:05 am
Great prog album with impromptu tracks from 1974:
https://agitationfree.com/en/diskografie/fragments/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0HZG3ME9cA
(https://agitationfree.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/Fragments_CD_front_600x540-556x500.jpg)

Love these guys! 
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: FullRangeMan on 19 Nov 2023, 08:32 am
Rubycon style riffs with Behringer 960 Sequencer by Vykaar Tones Channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDEWodkztUo
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: FullRangeMan on 30 Jan 2024, 01:46 am
Have completely missed the passing of the great composer and musician Klaus Schulze in 26Apr2022 at 74yo, one of the best German Musician I have see.
RIP
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/apr/29/klaus-schulze-obituary

Fantastique web site created by Klaus D.Mueller, KS right-hand man and manager since the early days>
https://www.klaus-schulze.com/

Body Love One Soundtrack:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzSyuIX8hvU


Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: snaimpally on 30 Jan 2024, 03:58 am
Great thread! I have been a fan of Kraftwerk and Tangerine Dream from the early 70s. Also enjoy Klaus Schulze, Christopher Franke, Paul Haslinger etc. Another German band I liked was Passport (Klaus Doldinger), though they were jazz.

In terms of electronic and ambient music in the style of Krautrock, check out Kit Watkins (http://kitwatkins.com/recordings/index.htm). He was the keyboard player for progressive rock group Happy The Man (HTM). When Peter Gabriel left Genesis, he asked HTM to back him up, but they declined. Kit later joined British prog rock band Camel for a few tours and an album or two. After that, he released many solo works, including quite a few instrumental electronic prog albums and ambient pieces ("tone poems"). His instrumental albums featured unsual time signatures (e.g., 5/4) and used percussion played by Coco Roussel, the drummer from HTM. Kit, who is now 70, has made all his albums available on his website as free downloads.
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: FullRangeMan on 26 Feb 2024, 03:10 am
Exciting minimalist music from the German icons of Art Rock.
Tony Conrad & Faust (1972).
Outside The Dream Sindicate – Caroline Records C-1501(1973)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGMnDcwoXns
Line-up:
Tony Conrad: Violin
Jean-Hervé Peron: Bass
Rudolf Sosna: Guitar, Keyboards
Werner Diermaier: Drums
Engineer – Kurt Graupner
Producer – Uwe Nettelbeck
Recorded at Faust Wümme Studio, October 1972.
German village east of Bremen.
Disc 1:
01.- From The Side Of Man And Womankind
02. From The Side Of The Machines
Disc 2:
01.- The Pyre Of Angus Was In
02.- The Death Of The Composers
03.- From The Side Of Woman And Mankind
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/70/TonyConradFaust_AlbumCover_DreamSyndicate.jpg)
Title: Re: Krautrock Forever!!
Post by: FullRangeMan on 13 Mar 2024, 12:30 am
Great composition from Vykaar Tones in the Force Majeure style.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWzueh3Wvys