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Industry Circles => Bryston Limited => Topic started by: James Tanner on 12 Feb 2010, 03:23 pm
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http://www.bryston.com/pages/company.html
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Truly refreshing.
Unfortunately, quality is no longer the “norm” these days. “Let us build it as quickly and inexpensively as possible or get someone else to do it for us” seems to be adage of many North American corporations.
Be well...
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Truly refreshing.
Unfortunately, quality is no longer the “norm” these days. “Let us build it as quickly and inexpensively as possible or get someone else to do it for us” seems to be adage of many North American corporations.
Be well...
....the byproduct of a disposable society and in a larger sense a symptom of a society whose value system is under attack!
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Spent breakfast this morning writing my views on Made Where? - Do I Care?, but I didn't have time to finish.
But what it made me think about was my first Bryston combo a .5 pre and 2BLP over 25 years ago and what was important on my purchasing decision.
The .5 was the same as the 11 or 12, the 2B was just less power than the 3 and 4B, it was just a matter of what was needed at the time.
No matter which level you enter into the Bryston lineup the excellent sound, material and craftsmanship is the same.
And that still stands today, the 2B is of the same high standard as the 28, and that goes for any product in the lineup.
What's unique is that each new Bryston appears better than the last and raises the standard, and not just in sound quality.
Robert
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I agree completely..
My BP-20 is a fantastic sounding preamp.Easily up there with some of the best I have ever owned.
Over the years,I've had 2B's, 3B NRB's,4B's.and more than a few preamps in the Bryston .4 family.
All were excellent performers in thier own right.
One of the biggest attractions for me is the fact that Bryston makes everything in-house,and has very liberal warranty.
Recently,I had Bryston Service in Vermont repair a BP-20 & a 2B LP PRO that I had picked up on the second-hand market.Both units were returned to me within 10 days,ready to go!
Not to long ago,I had another preamp from a well-respected American high-end company perform a repair,and it cost me $255.00,& took 6 weeks!
After that little adventure,I made a concerted effort to seek out my BP-20. I knew if I could secure one at a fair price,I'd be well taken care of,if the need for repairs arises.. :eyebrows:
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No matter which level you enter into the Bryston lineup the excellent sound, material and craftsmanship is the same.
The other thing that stands out in my mind is the high level of service.
See this response (http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=77488.msg735005#msg735005) as a prime example. How many VPs do you know who not only take the time to actively listen and respond to customers, but are willing to go above and beyond to lend equipment to customers to resolve service issues?
The other outstanding and astounding thing I've noticed is the technical support. How many other manufacturers go to the trouble of posting circuit diagrams on their web site?
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I agree, you nailed it. Allow me to add that Bryston deserves all of these recent accolades because quite frankly, they've earned it.
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Today most companies operate with the mentally of planned and controlled obsolescence.
iPOD's are a great example of planned obsolescence. Apple are constantly changing the look and feel of these things to make buyers keep shelling out money for basically the same thing, only to have the newest looking version.
Toasters, blenders, kettles and such are a good examples of controlled obsolescence. They are built to last only a few years and then break so that you have to buy a new one. We wouldn't want consumers to buy one small appliance and have it last forever, otherwise we'd be out of business.
Myself, I'm very concious of the environment and the waste that we all produce and these examples above do nothing to help this fact and I will not support them if I can find a way around them.
I commend Bryston for taking a different approach and whether your goal is to be environmentally friendly or not, you are and I like that. And your products are by far the best sounding that I have heard and I'm proud to own them and show them off to my friends and family.
Keep up the good work.
Wayne.
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http://bryston.com/mission.html
James,
Maybe Bryston should revise the first line of their mission statement "In a world of commodity purchases - where most things seem to need frequent upgrading, repair or replacement - have you ever wondered how Bryston can offer a 20-year warranty on every product we make?". I've been saving up to purchase a BDA-1 and I'm pretty sure that the warranty is for 5 years (and the BCD-1 is for 3 years). Am I missing something here?
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James,
Maybe Bryston should revise the first line of their mission statement "In a world of commodity purchases - where most things seem to need frequent upgrading, repair or replacement - have you ever wondered how Bryston can offer a 20-year warranty on every product we make?". I've been saving up to purchase a BDA-1 and I'm pretty sure that the warranty is for 5 years (and the BCD-1 is for 3 years). Am I missing something here?
Yes thanks I will change that - I should add the word 'analog'
james
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Thanks James. In my research to find a DAC I noticed a lot of people were confused (count me as one of them) as to whether the BDA-1 had the "normal" Bryston 20 year warranty or not.
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The other thing that stands out in my mind is the high level of service.
[snip !] How many VPs do you know who not only take the time to actively listen and respond to customers, but are willing to go above and beyond to lend equipment to customers to resolve service issues?
The other outstanding and astounding thing I've noticed is the technical support. How many other manufacturers go to the trouble of posting circuit diagrams on their web site?
Cannot agree more. Back in yr. 2000, I had bought a highly regarded CDPlayer whose remote control conflicted with that of my BP 25P, bought only a few months before, during 1999. I wrote both to the CDPlayer manufacturer and to James. A couple of days and I had a .pdf explaining exactly what to do to cancel the conflict, but I had to open the BP 25P. Took a a very deep look at those Robertson screws (I learned their name long after, and could be wrong), and concluded that they were unseen before, anywhere in my country. Wrote again to James, but if I recall this event correctly, he didn't answer the email: in two day's time, DHL showed up at home with a rather big cardboard box, containing the proper Robertson screwdriver !!. No response from the CDPlayer manufacturer.
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I am a PROUD owner of a Bryston B60-R . I have had so many good amps, But I was always looking for something better... and when I got my Bryston amp, That was the end of serching for me!. I am really happy to own such a piece of craftsmanship. quality all over.
I hope Bryston does not change the way they build their products. To me when I hear Bryston = QUALITY!. Not as many companies that put a golden name on the front with a lot of lights and gadgets that is on the "outside" but, in the inside is just crab. Bryston makes it simple and better.
My thanks go to all the people from Bryston for giving us what we deserved. :thumb:
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Absolutely! 8)
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devotion to old-world craft ?... You bet!!!. I always wondered why most of "old" electronic gear used to be so good and reliable. and I think it was the way they build them and they used to put "pride" in their gears. I used to work with a technician fixing TV,stereos, amps etc and He always told me that today we do not see reliable gears like in the old days. I remember He had a Fisher receiver that He bought directly from Fisher company here in New York. That receiver NEVER had a problem since He bought it and that is more than 30 years and He used it every day. He only changed some caps and when I measured the caps that He replaced with my ESR meter...THEY WERE STILL GOOD!!!.
When I met Bryston gear...I got hooked to it. it is like going back in time and get a gem of those old good days. I always new that it can be done...and Bryston showed us that it is posible. and not matter what model We get as long as it is a Bryston, We know we are getting Quality and it will last for a long, long, long time for sure. :thumb:
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Thank God I had the good sense to stick with Bryston.There is real quality gone into what they make and it shows.
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Hello!
I intend to buy 28B SST2 Bryston amplifiers to match R 907 Jamo floor standing speakers (4 ohms),
Naim dac-xps and Audio Research preamp ref 3. Mainly because this amps are supposed to play well at low levels.
As I have read it once in an hifi review, the Bryston amplifiers might be clipping, due to over heating.
Is there any issue with over-heating with the mono blocs, due mainly to their design's characteristics?
Thanks for your advice on this prosaic matter.
Regards,
GH
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The link in the first post is dead.
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The link in the first post is dead.
That was of course a link to the previous website. On the new website, the "philosophy" appears to be embodied within the Company page
http://www.bryston.com/pages/company.html (http://www.bryston.com/pages/company.html)
Steve
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That was of course a link to the previous website. On the new website, the "philosophy" appears to be embodied within the Company page
http://www.bryston.com/pages/company.html (http://www.bryston.com/pages/company.html)
Steve
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Hello!
I intend to buy 28B SST2 Bryston amplifiers to match R 907 Jamo floor standing speakers (4 ohms),
Naim dac-xps and Audio Research preamp ref 3. Mainly because this amps are supposed to play well at low levels.
As I have read it once in an hifi review, the Bryston amplifiers might be clipping, due to over heating.
Is there any issue with over-heating with the mono blocs, due mainly to their design's characteristics?
Thanks for your advice on this prosaic matter.
Regards,
GH
Was this one ever answered?
I'd have thought if the 28Bs were overheating and clipping the 907s would be molten long ago.
My 14B s get warm at full power into about five Ohms but i've never had thermal shutdown despite
very infrequent clipping. By then they're filling a 30 x 20 foot room with very loud, high quality sound.
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Hello! every body, i have already reached to the decision to buy a Bryston 4B SST2....tired of now with this long searching and going through all the reviews etc....i already have HSU-VTF 15 SUB and already got last week OPPO BDP-95....now cant wait to put hands on a nice amp. so am i going in right direction? suggestions will be welcomed...what speaker will give absolute sound for music. i have also researche krell 2250e, krell got less power, never got chance to listen it so dont know....share some experience with me ...thx bye.
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Did you buy the Bryston?
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Hello Guys i am currently working my BDP1 via mpod and mpad on my iphone and i pad am i right there is also a bryston download for the pc or mac that lets you control the bdp through your lapbook pro or PC
Thanks
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Hello Guys i am currently working my BDP1 via mpod and mpad on my iphone and i pad am i right there is also a bryston download for the pc or mac that lets you control the bdp through your lapbook pro or PC
Thanks
Hi simmac,
check out http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?board=193.0 (http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?board=193.0) , that's where the bdp folks hang out.
There is no Bryston download. Using a browser you can access MAX on you bdp to control it. It's more like using a browser to access a website; like AudioCircle :)
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Refreshing. Got my first Bryston 14 years ago, a 9BST 5channel amp. I was hooked by the products, and also by the super service I received from PMC in UK when the amp failed after 10 years - they fixed the fault and did a partial upgrade to some of the components (I think transistors, amongst others), at no cost to me. Unbeatable service and excellent products.
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Love the Bryston philosophy because they actually stand behind their product for two decades. They also dont play games and claim if you are not the original owner the warranty no longer applies. Why should it make any difference who the owner is if the original warranty period is still in play? Seems like a lot of manufacturers use that as an excuse not to stand behind their product.
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The Bryston warranty is what drove me to get their amps when I had some funds available 2 years ago to set up a modest HT build (audio can be a very expensive hobby, especially for someone with limited means!). I purchased the 4B-ST and then an 8B-NRB on the used market, both of which had some problems, but which were fixed within 2 weeks at no cost by the repair department - that's a fantastic deal, especially considering the age of these amps. Since then, they have performed pristinely and I am enjoying them every minute in my HT, bi-amping them to the B&W Matrix 801 series 2 - they have plenty of power to drive these speakers, and the sound is natural and involving. Bryston's repair department is phenomenal - and you get to talk directly with the technician who is fixing your amp - which is usually unheard of these days! In the future, when and if I had the resources to upgrade or looking for new components, Bryston would be at the top of my list.
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The Bryston warranty is what drove me to get their amps when I had some funds available 2 years ago to set up a modest HT build (audio can be a very expensive hobby, especially for someone with limited means!). I purchased the 4B-ST and then an 8B-NRB on the used market, both of which had some problems, but which were fixed within 2 weeks at no cost by the repair department - that's a fantastic deal, especially considering the age of these amps. Since then, they have performed pristinely and I am enjoying them every minute in my HT, bi-amping them to the B&W Matrix 801 series 2 - they have plenty of power to drive these speakers, and the sound is natural and involving. Bryston's repair department is phenomenal - and you get to talk directly with the technician who is fixing your amp - which is usually unheard of these days! In the future, when and if I had the resources to upgrade or looking for new components, Bryston would be at the top of my list.
That's cool, but there's some people that think Bryston isn't any good sound-wise. The Hell with them, what do they know?
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Love the Bryston philosophy because they actually stand behind their product for two decades. They also dont play games and claim if you are not the original owner the warranty no longer applies. Why should it make any difference who the owner is if the original warranty period is still in play? Seems like a lot of manufacturers use that as an excuse not to stand behind their product.
This is true...
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Curious why the Bryston website is not up to date with BDA2 etc?
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You perhaps have heard this many times before, but you are going to hear it again;
I realize that it is the amazing service that Bryston has provided over the years that has contributed to your success, but to be able to do so continually deserves recognition. My bdp-1 has been problematic and an email to tech resulted in a telephone call from Chris while in Montreal, followed up by a 1.5 hour trouble shooting telephone call the next day. The most impressive thing about this service? Chris was to begin his vacation the moment our call ended.
To be able to foster this culture of exemplary service after so many years is incredible.
I wish you nothing but continued success and the highest praise for all your employees (and Chris in particular).
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You perhaps have heard this many times before, but you are going to hear it again;
I realize that it is the amazing service that Bryston has provided over the years that has contributed to your success, but to be able to do so continually deserves recognition. My bdp-1 has been problematic and an email to tech resulted in a telephone call from Chris while in Montreal, followed up by a 1.5 hour trouble shooting telephone call the next day. The most impressive thing about this service? Chris was to begin his vacation the moment our call ended.
To be able to foster this culture of exemplary service after so many years is incredible.
I wish you nothing but continued success and the highest praise for all your employees (and Chris in particular).
Thank you very much for your kind words - I will pass them along to all at Bryston. :thumb:
james
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I plan to use my bryston for not just one generation, but a lifetime. :green: this is not some random stuff I'd purchase off eBay in a heartbeat . I buy a bryston and I live with it.
I'll try to stick around for another.. 50 years. :icon_lol: by then I'll be 96.
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Mr. Tanner,
Today I spent several hours attempting to upgrade my BDP-'s firmware from 1.73 to 1.75 in preparation for the installation of manic Moose. I had quite a time with this and ended up emailing Gary Dayton who eventually suggested that the difficulty I was experiencing would likely require manually flashing the BDP-1's CF card. Although the instructions were provided as to how to accomplish this, I feel I lack the requisite knowledge and/or skill needed to get this done. It is my feeling Bryston should providing their customers with new CF cards that would allow them to enjoy the benefits of Manic Moose as well as other upgrades likely to come in the future rather than having them risk the downside associated with attempting something for which they are not trained.
Sincerely,
mbain
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Mr. Tanner,
Today I spent several hours attempting to upgrade my BDP-'s firmware from 1.73 to 1.75 in preparation for the installation of manic Moose. I had quite a time with this and ended up emailing Gary Dayton who eventually suggested that the difficulty I was experiencing would likely require manually flashing the BDP-1's CF card. Although the instructions were provided as to how to accomplish this, I feel I lack the requisite knowledge and/or skill needed to get this done. It is my feeling Bryston should providing their customers with new CF cards that would allow them to enjoy the benefits of Manic Moose as well as other upgrades likely to come in the future rather than having them risk the downside associated with attempting something for which they are not trained.
Sincerely,
mbain
HI
yes I can send you a new card if you are having issues upgrading - email me your shipping address please.
james
jamestanner@bryston.com
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Another example of the outstanding support provided by Bryston.
Still sitting on the fence and following these threads closely before jumping into the BDP2 arena.
(Haven't given up on a new BCD-2, that's a no brainier for me-just say the word)
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Has anyone with a Bryston ever heard of Robert Grodinsky Research?
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Yes, back in the 80's I had an RGR preamp with my first 4B. Long time ago. Haven't heard anything sense then.
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Dear James
This is babu from singapore , I finally sold my 4b SST2 here in singapore because of the issue with the board twice, But now i am using ( Temporary) Musical Fidelity M6 i
I really miss the Bryston , ...... The Warmth and the no fatigue sound from my Bryston 4B SST2 . I was thinking of Buying the Merril Audio Class D or the ATSAH Class D Power amp ,
They say the future now is with Class D , Because it runs cool , So Can i seek your opinion on the comment about Class D. kindly let me know your opinion.
Thanks
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Dear James
This is babu from singapore , I finally sold my 4b SST2 here in singapore because of the issue with the board twice, But now i am using ( Temporary) Musical Fidelity M6 i
I really miss the Bryston , ...... The Warmth and the no fatigue sound from my Bryston 4B SST2 . I was thinking of Buying the Merril Audio Class D or the ATSAH Class D Power amp ,
They say the future now is with Class D , Because it runs cool , So Can i seek your opinion on the comment about Class D. kindly let me know your opinion.
Thanks
Hi
We do have some Class D amplifiers but mainly for Zone applications. We still feel Class AB designs are superior to Class D designs but many will disagree.
james
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The only people I hear about touting D class as the next big thing are the manufacturers trying to sell them.
If you are worried about heat generation or power consumption then D is probably the way to go, otherwise as James says A or more likely AB is a better bet.
I think D is like wanting a sports car but then worrying about fuel consumption so getting a small engine.
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I think D is like wanting a sports car but then worrying about fuel consumption so getting a small engine.
If you want Class D with "balls" and amazing sound, have a look at the Devialet integrated amps.
These units are absolutely amazing! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
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If you want Class D with "balls" and amazing sound, have a look at the Devialet integrated amps.
These units are absolutely amazing! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Sorry, my analogy probably wasn't the easiest to follow, I was trying to point out suitability rather than power. Perhaps a better one would be wanting a sports car and then buying one with a diesel engine rather than petrol.
I'm not sure that Devialet is for me, they are class D and use switchmode power supplies.
With what I do know about electronics these are both compromises, this is why I like Bryston, class AB, toroidal transformers, handmade, and attention to quality.
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If you want Class D with "balls" and amazing sound, have a look at the Devialet integrated amps.
These units are absolutely amazing! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Ive had Devialet 240, in fact I had two.
Bryston is more to my liking soundwise, Devialet is kind of a boring sound imho, but it looks nice 8)
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Ive had Devialet 240, in fact I had two.
Bryston is more to my liking soundwise, Devialet is kind of a boring sound imho, but it looks nice 8)
Interesting, I went from BP26/4BSST2/BDA2 to Devialet 200 and find the Devialet to be better on all parameters: faster, more dynamic, better defined bass/mid/highs and bigger sound stage.
Having said that, I've kept my BCD-1 and BDP-2! :thumb:
That's the beauty of this industry...
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Interesting, I went from BP26/4BSST2/BDA2 to Devialet 200 and find the Devialet to be better on all parameters: faster, more dynamic, better defined bass/mid/highs and bigger sound stage.
Having said that, I've kept my BCD-1 and BDP-2! :thumb:
That's the beauty of this industry...
Sure it depends on speaker etc :thumb:
I also play mostly rock and Blues, Bryston in my system have better rytm and deeper more pronounced bass 8) Devialet became a little thin and fatiguing.
I also kept my Bdp2. never got the AIR Play to work 100%, what I loved was the look, its the best looking high end out there :D
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Just wanted to mention the outstanding support I received from Gary Dayton when a newly purchased BUC1 didn't work in my system (into a BDA1) out of the box. Ultimately I needed some changes to my music player software, but Gary went above and beyond in updating the BUC1 software and insuring it was properly set up. He is a very knowledgeable guy and also really cares. If the world had more like him it would be a better place.
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I suppose this in no surprise given the subject but there is a lot of talk about how great the new Theta Digital class D amps are over on AVS in the Theta thread. The amps being discussed are the Dreadnaught D and Prometheus. I feel there might be a bit to much fanboyism going on to keep all objectivity in check there but it does cause one to raise an eyebrow as it were and take notice. I see NAD amps getting mentioned occasionally as well.
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Sorry wrong post
james
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Just wanted to mention the outstanding support I received from Gary Dayton when a newly purchased BUC1 didn't work in my system (into a BDA1) out of the box. Ultimately I needed some changes to my music player software, but Gary went above and beyond in updating the BUC1 software and insuring it was properly set up. He is a very knowledgeable guy and also really cares. If the world had more like him it would be a better place.
Gary has been a great help to me as well! As a matter of fact, my first pair of Model T's ended up at his house when they had a little finish issue. He came to my home (with James) and boxed up the old speakers then proceeded to set up my new T's! How's that for service??
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James,
Several years ago I purchased a bdp-1 and have been very satisfied with my purchase. Recently I have been considering upgrading to the bdp-2 for a variety of reasons, chief among them is the new audio card currently used in the bdp-2. The problem is that although I could afford to make the purchase if I stretched my budget, I can' t help but feel that I am the victim of built in obsolescence. It would be nice if Bryston would consider the implementation of an upgrade policy that would offer a trade in of older products toward the purchase of upgraded new products. I know a few audio companies do have this type of policy in place. It would be wonderful if Bryston offered the same to go along with their industry leading product support. Food for thought perhaps.
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To their credit, they do offer upgrades, such as the previous SST-2 series amps to S3. I believe James also mentioned they were using a socketed DAC chip in the BDA-3 to support possible future upgrades for current owners.
Don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE to be able to trade in my BDA-2 for a BDA-3, but you can always sell an older model and upgrade to a newer one that way too.
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Hi Folks,
Yes sadly there comes a point where the technology changes so rapidly (Digital) that there is no cost effective way to modify or upgrade current units. We do try as best we can when designing new products but sometimes it is just not possible and selling the older unit to purchase the newer unit is the better cost effective option for the customer.
Also as a company we do not make large margins so it really is impossible for us to 'take back' previously sold product as a trade in etc.
james
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To their credit, they do offer upgrades, such as the previous SST-2 series amps to S3.
really !? :o
where / when was that upgrade announced?
I remember to have read about it, but as possible future development.
Not that I'm in a rush, my 4B-SST² is far from Ontario.
But good to know I may have the chance.
Fernando.
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I'm jumping a bit. Last I read, engineering at Bryston is working out what seem to be final details for the upgrades. I believe James is hoping to have something formal out relatively soon. Sorry if I overstated.
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James, these could be understood as a couple of philosophical questions, but why not feasible?:
1- I think the BP-26 (the BP-25 too) could offer an optional LED in the volume pot, so to tell in low light where the up-down attenuation actually is. And to know where to grasp it quickly in low light conditions. Same for the BHA-1. I must use a small lamplight to perform these checks, and the lamplight tends to disappear in my dimly lit listening room.
2- As for the BHA-1, I cannot think of a good reason why its volume control is not remote controllable - I think its potentiometer could be offered with a remote control as an optional feature. And a LED just like the proposed option for the BP-26.
Wish you could have a couple of minutes to read and consider this-
Fernando
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James, these could be understood as a couple of philosophical questions, but why not feasible?:
1- I think the BP-26 (the BP-25 too) could offer an optional LED in the volume pot, so to tell in low light where the up-down attenuation actually is. And to know where to grasp it quickly in low light conditions. Same for the BHA-1. I must use a small lamplight to perform these checks, and the lamplight tends to disappear in my dimly lit listening room.
2- As for the BHA-1, I cannot think of a good reason why its volume control is not remote controllable - I think its potentiometer could be offered with a remote control as an optional feature. And a LED just like the proposed option for the BP-26.
Wish you could have a couple of minutes to read and consider this-
Fernando
Hi Fernando
Yes we could add those features but it would be a redesign - for example the BP26 would also need a remote receiver design as well as a different volume control with some kind of lighting etc. The BP26 was designed many years ago and remote control was not all that common back then. The BP-17 preamp which is a newer design does have remote volume and full remote source control as well. A lot of it is a timing issue.
The BHA being a headphone amp was design with the assumption that the headphone listener would be in close proximity to the unit (due to headphone cable) but in hindsight when we added the preamp out feature it would have helped to offer a remote volume but that again would involve a redesign as well.
james
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Hi Fernando
Yes we could add those features but it would be a redesign - for example the BP26 would also need a remote receiver design as well as a different volume control with some kind of lighting etc. The BP26 was designed many years ago and remote control was not all that common back then. The BP-17 preamp which is a newer design does have remote volume and full remote source control as well. A lot of it is a timing issue.
The BHA being a headphone amp was design with the assumption that the headphone listener would be in close proximity to the unit (due to headphone cable) but in hindsight when we added the preamp out feature it would have helped to offer a remote volume but that again would involve a redesign as well.
james
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James,
AFAIK, the BP26 does have a remote receiver, and so does the BP25.
Neither of these, nor the BP17, offer a LED on the volume knob.
Personally, I don't care about other remote controllable features other than volume pot. - with a LED on it. The BP-17 doesn't seem to have a LED there.
And I much prefer the BP26/25 design.
The BHA1 would benefit of a remote receiver and a LED on its volume pot. - because a 3 meter headphone cable _is_ far away, when I'm lying in the dimly lit whereabouts, very properly immersed in music and only my right thumb may push something.
Let alone when the preamp out was implemented.
I hope I can wait for the redesigns ... :)
Fernando.
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Don't hold your breath for the redesigns. Nit-pickin', imo.
Better priorities like lowering distortion. Not that there's much dist. to begin with.
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i dunno i had a class d onkyo integrated and let me tell you, the damn thing had no power to speak of. it would get real hot and shut down with the volume control only half-way on the dial, ridiculous!
i then sold that boat anchor and bought my current amp, the 4bsst pro. basically, this thing has the power...and i have abused it by putting it full blast on halloween night 2008 with iron maiden's 'the number of the beast' album. needless to say, i could not blow up the damn thing...the right channel went into clipping a little bit, but that's it. and the sound qualty is probably the best i have heard...very close to the fm acoustics (yes i said fm acoustics!) 611 amp which i paid 10 times what i paid for the bryston. and that fm amp used to shut down and get hot because the damn thing has a small case and hardly any heatsinking! it is true that bryston is a bit "pricey,"in real world terms..but nowhere near fm acoustics, soulution, accuphase, burmester, dan d'agostino, constellation, etc...not to say this is not great equipment but kinda tough with those prices, as in the case of fm acoustics, silly prices. now ask yourself, is bryston far worse than the brands i mentioned? not really no; think about it, bryston is made the same way as the competition using i trust are the finest componentry they can get their hands on..so why not get a bryston? it is a great sounding reliable product that is far less expensive that the competition which means it's in reach of more audiophiles and music lovers worldwide!. in my mind, it's an honest no bs sound from a company that bends over backwards for the customer. how can you beat that? how? you can't.
too many audiophiles pooh poh bryston and say allkinds of negative things especially that it's too bright. the fact of the matter is, is that these people want a warm and colored sound which in reality is a frequency anomaly; rolled off highs, and a bump or hump in the upper bass and lower midrange. so then, let them enjoy that editorializing of the music while enjoy every last subtlety, nuance, and emotion of our favorite recordings! i say to the anti bryston people; go to hell, and get out of my way; you are losers who have nothing better to do than bash equipment! it's true. we, the bryston owners are right, and you're wrong. and if you don't like it well tough...i stand behind every word that i typed here, i don't care what you people think of this post because i'm not here to make friends with the likes of you...well, that's about it for now. 1 last thing to all of the bryston owners worldwide; don't pay any mind to these anti bryston guys, they are nothing more than slimeballs with no life. and be proud of you being owners of bryston equipment. it is a world class product and don't worry about what could be better. trust me, it's not that muc better if at alll...rant over!!!
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Geezus, Trump's campaigners have taken over this thread.
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Why not just buy a piece of equipment, enjoy the sound, tell people you like it if you wish and leave it at that?
Go to Hell? Losers? Slimeballs?
Really? :scratch:
It's one thing to get upset at someone calling your family members names, but jumping to the defense of relatively meaningless audio equipment with angry and toxic barbs will likely be viewed by others as childish at best or drug and alcohol induced at worst.
And more of a detriment than a service to Bryston.
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Geezus, Trump's campaigners have taken over this thread.
CROOKED BRYSTON!
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Also, real talk, Bryston is neutral for most part, but I will admit that the top end on Bryston can be a bit hot. I always like to mix and match Bryston with other gear. Having a Bryston stack through and through can be a bit too hot for some people.
I've heard other top studio converters and Class D amps that are just as neutral, but never get fatiguing. It comes down to room, equipment, source/music, and preferences.
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The only thing 'bright' about Bryston are the people who buy it :icon_lol:
james
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The only thing 'bright' about Bryston are the people who buy it :icon_lol:
james
YES! :lol:
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Why not just buy a piece of equipment, enjoy the sound, tell people you like it if you wish and leave it at that?
Go to Hell? Losers? Slimeballs?
Really? :scratch:
It's one thing to get upset at someone calling your family members names, but jumping to the defense of relatively meaningless audio equipment with angry and toxic barbs will likely be viewed by others as childish at best or drug and alcohol induced at worst.
And more of a detriment than a service to Bryston.
that's right. again, i stand behind every word i typed here. 'nuff said on that.
detriment? let james and the rest of the guys and gals at bryston decide that. if james does find my post to be offensive, then may he delete my post at any time...
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Also, real talk, Bryston is neutral for most part, but I will admit that the top end on Bryston can be a bit hot. I always like to mix and match Bryston with other gear. Having a Bryston stack through and through can be a bit too hot for some people.
I've heard other top studio converters and Class D amps that are just as neutral, but never get fatiguing. It comes down to room, equipment, source/music, and preferences.
exactly right, preferences...and they prefer rolled off or even slightly rolled off highs. which is ok, but not accurate to be honest.
now, i'm not saying all class d amps are bad, i'm just relaying my bad experience with one. i though it was gonna be a giant killer but the sound was like throwing wet blankets over the speakers...
and of course everything varies in audio...that's the nature of the beast.
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Geezus, Trump's campaigners have taken over this thread.
:thumb: :evil: