Bryston SP4

Rod_S · « **Reply #160 on:** 4 Jan 2019, 05:45 pm »

Any CES announcements to be expected about the expansion modules, pricing, timing etc?

James Tanner · « **Reply #161 on:** 4 Jan 2019, 05:50 pm »

Quote from: Rod_S on 4 Jan 2019, 05:45 pm

Any CES announcements to be expected about the expansion modules, pricing, timing etc?

Hi Rod

No we are not attending CES.

James

witchdoctor · « **Reply #162 on:** 5 Jan 2019, 12:43 am »

JT, any anecdotal SP4 content you could post would be appreciated.

James Tanner · « **Reply #163 on:** 5 Jan 2019, 12:49 am »

Quote from: witchdoctor on 5 Jan 2019, 12:43 am

JT, any anecdotal SP4 content you could post would be appreciated.

Hi

So far all I can say is we are constantly back-ordered so very happy with the response so far.

james

Rod_S · « **Reply #164 on:** 16 Jan 2019, 01:46 pm »

Now that tv manufacturers are bringing HDMI 2.1 to market this year (LG OLED's and Sony 8k LCD) while others are implementing a lot of HDMI 2.1 features within their HDMI 2.0b firmware (Panasonic and Sony OLED's) how is the SP4 going to accommodate this? For example can the SP4 actually passthru VRR (variable refresh rate), ALLM (auto low latency mode) and can it accept the features from eARC on it's 2 outputs? Obviously the SP4 can't immediately be upgraded to HDMI 2.1 because MDS as of yet has no 2.1 boards but it would be good to see the SP4 at least be able to passthru these features if not fully accommodate via firmware updates. I believe native 8K@60Hz (which there is still practically no content yet) and 4K@120Hz (may exist already for PC gamers??) do require actual HDMI 2.1 chipsets for the 48Gbps bandwidth

James Tanner · « **Reply #165 on:** 16 Jan 2019, 06:12 pm »

Quote from: Rod_S on 16 Jan 2019, 01:46 pm

Now that tv manufacturers are bringing HDMI 2.1 to market this year (LG OLED's and Sony 8k LCD) while others are implementing a lot of HDMI 2.1 features within their HDMI 2.0b firmware (Panasonic and Sony OLED's) how is the SP4 going to accommodate this? For example can the SP4 actually passthru VRR (variable refresh rate), ALLM (auto low latency mode) and can it accept the features from eARC on it's 2 outputs? Obviously the SP4 can't immediately be upgraded to HDMI 2.1 because MDS as of yet has no 2.1 boards but it would be good to see the SP4 at least be able to passthru these features if not fully accommodate via firmware updates. I believe native 8K@60Hz (which there is still practically no content yet) and 4K@120Hz (may exist already for PC gamers??) do require actual HDMI 2.1 chipsets for the 48Gbps bandwidth

Hi

Yes that is something we are looking at which would be an HDMI board replacement.

james

Rod_S · « **Reply #166 on:** 16 Jan 2019, 06:34 pm »

Quote from: James Tanner on 16 Jan 2019, 06:12 pm

Hi

Yes that is something we are looking at which would be an HDMI board replacement.

james

So when you say board replacement do you mean wait for MDS to produce a fully compliant 2.1 board or do you mean you need a more current HDMI 2.0b board, one that is capable of being updated to implement eARC, VRR and ALLM? I would imagine an updated 2.0 board would be considered a near term solution whereas a 2.1 board would be seen as a more distant future upgrade pending MDS's ability to produce one within the next 2 years or so.

To my knowledge there was no mention at CES of MDS coming to market with their updated boards so that would imply their offerings would probably be at least a year away.

James Tanner · « **Reply #167 on:** 16 Jan 2019, 09:13 pm »

Quote from: Rod_S on 16 Jan 2019, 06:34 pm

So when you say board replacement do you mean wait for MDS to produce a fully compliant 2.1 board or do you mean you need a more current HDMI 2.0b board, one that is capable of being updated to implement eARC, VRR and ALLM? I would imagine an updated 2.0 board would be considered a near term solution whereas a 2.1 board would be seen as a more distant future upgrade pending MDS's ability to produce one within the next 2 years or so.

To my knowledge there was no mention at CES of MDS coming to market with their updated boards so that would imply their offerings would probably be at least a year away.

We are not relying on MDS going forward.

james

Rod_S · « **Reply #168 on:** 16 Jan 2019, 10:21 pm »

Ah, very interesting.

Rod_S · « **Reply #169 on:** 17 Jan 2019, 06:08 pm »

Will the new cards from another manufacturer continue to be a 7x2 card design which was a MDS limitation for HDMI 2.0 (they used to be 8x2 on their 1.4 cards)? I see Emotiva's new SSP will be a 8x2 card.

James Tanner · « **Reply #170 on:** 17 Jan 2019, 06:09 pm »

Quote from: Rod_S on 17 Jan 2019, 06:08 pm

Will the new cards from another manufacturer continue to be a 7x2 card design which was a MDS limitation for HDMI 2.0 (they used to be 8x2 on their 1.4 cards)? I see Emotiva's new SSP will be a 8x2 card.

Not sure on that.

james

Rod_S · « **Reply #171 on:** 18 Jan 2019, 06:05 pm »

Is this something you are targeting for this year, or is it at least a year off?

James Tanner · « **Reply #172 on:** 18 Jan 2019, 09:42 pm »

Quote from: Rod_S on 18 Jan 2019, 06:05 pm

Is this something you are targeting for this year, or is it at least a year off?

HI Rod

A year at least.

james

James Tanner · « **Reply #173 on:** 28 Feb 2019, 11:53 am »

Hi Folks,

The Bryston SP-4 is a big hit at the Bristol Show in the UK with PMC.

https://www.stereonet.co.uk/news/pmc-dolby-atmos-demo-wins-fans-and-award-at-bristol-hi-fi-show

james

witchdoctor · « **Reply #174 on:** 28 Feb 2019, 11:59 am »

Wow! That's a nice award James and quite a compliment. If the Atmos Music files they used for the demo become available for sale or download please post and let us know.

witchdoctor · « **Reply #175 on:** 28 Feb 2019, 05:54 pm »

James, you see what I have been saying about using immersive audio for music? It is fantastic, when are you going to try it yourself and if you already did, what was your experience? Interesting that PMC chose a music demo as opposed to movie clips isn't it?

James Tanner · « **Reply #176 on:** 28 Feb 2019, 05:57 pm »

Quote from: witchdoctor on 28 Feb 2019, 05:54 pm

James, you see what I have been saying about using immersive audio for music? It is fantastic, when are you going to try it yourself and if you already did, what was your experience? Interesting that PMC chose a music demo as opposed to movie clips isn't it?

Hi

Yes I have experimented with the immersive sound but I am old and antiquated so i still prefer a straight ahead Stereo perspective in my own system.

james

witchdoctor · « **Reply #177 on:** 28 Feb 2019, 07:07 pm »

Quote from: James Tanner on 28 Feb 2019, 05:57 pm

Hi

Yes I have experimented with the immersive sound but I am old and antiquated so i still prefer a straight ahead Stereo perspective in my own system.

james

In my experience MORE speakers work better with old and antiquated listeners

Rooster19 · « **Reply #178 on:** 1 Mar 2019, 09:51 pm »

Quote from: Rod_S on 18 Apr 2018, 12:33 pm

So no typical IR hard button control solution thus it won't come with it's own handheld remote and would not likely be compatible with learning remotes such as a Harmony?

Any further info re: the IR remote? the Secret's review mentioned a beta firmware activating the IR port

James Tanner · « **Reply #179 on:** 12 Mar 2019, 06:29 pm »

Bryston SP-4 Review

February 2019

MEMO: To All Bryston Customers
SUBJECT: Bryston SP-4 Processor – Widescreen Review

March 2019

Hi Folks,

Please see link below on a review of our new Bryston SP4 Immersive Surround Processor in the February issue of Widescreen Review Magazine.

PDF of full review available here … Page 40

https://www.dropbox.com/s/y1562x2ztuffv0o/Widescreen%20Review%20February%202019%20issue.pdf?dl=0