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But I seriously doubt GMO foods will unleash some sort of disease or other direct health issue. GMO's? not so much (in terms of affecting health)
Breeding stock GMOs for the purpose of herbicide resistance is no different than the tradition breeding. Instead of standing over a hundred plants and spraying herbicide. They do it in a lab to see what lives. It's the same thing but more efficient from what I can see.
Dave, I once saw some racist idiot on TV condemning interracial marriage saying you don't see red birds mate with blue one, and I thought....well that's because they're different species you moron!sorry if again political.I think the future of medicine will be via genetic manipulation and nano tech. Remember, any cancer is caused by a genetic anomoly. Once that day arrives we can end what is the barbaric practice of chemo. (I also have a background in clinical pharmacy.....weird careers I know, because my main business is commercial photography.)cheers to all!
As is known human races are famous for their behavior, one is clearly lazy, other is intellectual, another is detail oriented and musical etc...
I agree, there is a future and very useful things will result from genetic manipulation and nano tech, but I'm not convinced GMO crops are necessary... instead local and organic food production should be encouraged. The total and complete dependency on fossil fuels to produce and transport our food supply is a problem that GMO won't solve, it takes us in exactly the wrong direction. The thought we NEED GMO to feed the world is misguided and simply propaganda.
Where do you live? I live in the heart of Minnesota. It is a "Mecca" for food and crop production. Many of my friends that I have tea with every morning are farmers. I'm going to show them this thread so they can all have a good laugh. If you think we can feed the world with organically grown crops, you are spewing propaganda. Of course, I'm sure almost all here have hardly seen a farm, let alone work on one, bale hay of participate in butchering a hog or steer.We have 2 local vegetable farms near here. The labor force required to run a farm like this would not be possible without migrant farm workers, there is simply too much work to get it all done. Not eating meat is one's own personal choice, but the best beef cattle are raised on grass. Lots of this grass land (or pasture land) is prefect for this process. The cattle consume the grass (not in real conflict with other foods in the food chain) and we eat the cattle.BTW, almost every food item you guys eat today is the result of hybrid manipulation. Cattle are. Tomatoes never used to have thick skin as they do now, and in the old days, had a high mortality rate getting to the market. This is in fact, gene manipulation.
Many years ago I owned an organic mushroom farm, sold at farmer's markets and know lots of organic farmers. But I guess you having tea with some folks makes you an expert... enough to tell me I'm "spewing propaganda", lol. So spare me your condescension... it's not like all farmers agree on all topics anyways, they are people who have differing opinions, that's why some own organic farms and others do not. You are correct about the requirement for increased labor, but I don't see that as a huge problem, just an adjustment. You are also ignorant about the difference between breeding and genetic manipulation. Breeding IS NOT, in fact, genetic manipulation in the same way GMOs are created. Breeding as allowed by genetics can happen naturally, injecting scorpion genes into cabbage is something else entirely. If you can't understand the difference there I'm not sure what to say, but it seems like willful ignorance to me.
Hey Wayne. I grew up on a farm. Believe me I've put up plenty of hay. Back in the bad old days when it was square bales and you had to load wagon and the barn by hand. And any day you had to do it? Would always be the hottest of the year!! Like most discussions/arguments, there are always two sides and both have their valid points.You are correct about producing food for a planet with 7 billion people. And very few now work in ag. When I was a kid, and especially when looking at my parents generation, America was largely a rural county. Now what? Less than a few per cent are farmers?So that's going to take mass production techniques to feed all the city folk. Not to mention the fact that food, in the US is pretty cheap. We used to spend what 20% of income on food in the 60's. It's now down to like 10%. (Assuming you don't go to fancy restaurants every night)And even with the decline of the middle class in this country, we are still pretty rich by and large. So if there are people who can afford organic produce so be it.But widespread use of organophosphate chemicals is undoubtably a bad thing, especially if used indiscriminately. Fertilizer runoff into water ways is a huge problem. but what are you gonna do about it? Maybe we could reduce the need for a lot of mass grown corn if we all went vegetarian. But that's just not gonna happen. and if it did? what happens to those farmers and ranchers and processors? The world is shades of grey people, there is no black and white.Again, it's like a lot of things in the modern world where there is good and bad sides. another example: We love our cars. We love cheap gas, but we become outraged when there are oil spills. Hey.....it's gonna happen. Stuff breaks, people make mistakes. Sure it's bad, and it sucks, but what do you expect?But local food is good too. It's hard to beat a real tomato fresh off the vine or an ear of sweet corn that has just been just picked. I always look forward to summer when I can stop by the roadside stands some of the local farmers kids set up. I live in KY. So there are still small farms nearby. As to Viggs post:Agree that natural grass fed beef is great at least when I ate it. What we had on farm as a kid. And I agree, that if you are going to consume animals, use the whole carcass, like they do in poorer countries. It's funny that some of the best food came out of poverty and people using the 'leftover' bits in clever ways. Like BBQ brisket. An otherwise unpalatable bit of meat rendered fantastic. BTW: I have nothing against eating meat, It's just something I choose not to do, at least for the time being. I like meat, but there is a pork processing plant just a few blocks from my studio and it kinda turned me off to it for various reasons.Sorry if I seem to be ranting folks. Really don't mean to come off as hostile to anyone or making political statements.
Watch out who you call ignorant. I believe I didn't call you any names there, DAVE. You have no idea of my knowledge base.
