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Community => Non-audio hobbies and interests => The IT Crowd => Topic started by: JohnR on 7 Sep 2017, 12:40 pm
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Check this out:
https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/odroid-hc1-home-cloud-one/
(http://www.hardkernel.com/main/_Files/prdt/2017/201708/201708170409236550.jpg)
[Updated link]
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Looks nice John
Thanks for the tip
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Looks quite interesting. A coworker's first thought was "It's like a RasPi met a diskless NAS."
Thx!
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I don't see any type of cover available for it?
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I guess you could just turn it upside down :)
Processor is much faster than RPi. (Whole chassis is the heatsink for the CPU)
There's a prebuilt OMV (open media vault) image if you wanted a web-based configuration interface - https://sourceforge.net/projects/openmediavault/files/Odroid%20images/
However, it only took me a few minutes to do a command line setup of Samba on an XU4, so for many uses the OMV solution is overkill.
I'm thinking next year's Pi Peregrination will include a media server as well as a player...
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Awesome find, John!! Odroid makes great stuff!
-Jim
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...and then get one of the WD 8TB external drives when on sale for $160-170 which reportedly has WD red 5400 rpm NAS drives. It should be fairly easy to pry out the drive and use with the ODROID board John recommends (but you may void the warranty). This would create a hard to beat price of $210 for a 8TB NAS!
See for example here (this deal expired but I just got one the other night for $170 at a US based Best Buy). I believe there were some instructions in the comment of how to open it up.
https://slickdeals.net/f/10387908-8tb-wd-easystore-usb-3-0-external-hard-drive-160-free-shipping?src=SiteSearchV2_SearchBarV2Algo1
BTW: If you are not comfortable with command line, the OpenMediaVault solution mentioned is easy to use with the webinterface. Highly recommended. I have used it on a tower server for a few years. See here for more info: https://www.openmediavault.org/ It also has a very helpful user-forum.
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Just remember the case is made for a 2.5 inch (laptop size) drive, not a 3.5 inch drive that is more available in larger capacities.
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Good point. Completely missed that. Make sure to get a drive that fits. The one I linked is a 3.5 inch drive.
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Looks as if it could be a nice light weight, compact, low power, vibration immune (SSD) solution for mobile installations (RV, Semi, camping ...)
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WD's 2.5" drives top out at 2TB (1TB for Red NAS 2.5" drive) but Seagate has 3TB, 4TB and 5TB 2.5" standard laptop drives.
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BTW available in the US from ameridroid - https://ameridroid.com/products/odroid-hc1
5TB crikey - https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822179104
(Wonder how much power it needs?)
BTW2 I read somewhere that a 3.5" version is in the works.
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Wonder how much power it needs?
To answer my own question, Seagate specs are 1.2A startup current and 1.9/2.1 W read/write. Pretty low...
If one were seriously going to use these for storage I suppose a UPS might be a good idea... like the "$35 computer" costs mount up quickly :P
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(Wonder how much power it needs?)
Per the Seagate BarraCuda 2.5" Data Sheet:
http://www.seagate.com/www-content/product-content/barracuda-fam/barracuda-new/files/barracuda-2-5-ds1907-1-1609us.pdf (http://www.seagate.com/www-content/product-content/barracuda-fam/barracuda-new/files/barracuda-2-5-ds1907-1-1609us.pdf)
The 3TB, 4TB and 5TB have the same power specs:
Startup Current (@ +5V): 1.2A
Read/Write Power, Average: 1.9W/2.1W
Idle Power, Average: 1.1W
The 500GB, 1TB and 2TB drives only have ~ 200mA less startup current (1A), the read/write power W a bit less and the idle power W ~ 50%.
Steve
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You could just plug in any USB3 hard drive into your Synology Router (https://www.synology.com/en-us/products/RT2600ac) and be done with it.
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You could just plug in any USB3 hard drive into your Synology Router (https://www.synology.com/en-us/products/RT2600ac) and be done with it.
I think most routers have USB3 inputs these days. What's your point?
-Jim
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The drive-into-router solution works OK with the Synology and so far has been reliable (unlike earlier routers). For someone who just wants a network share it might be a reasonable solution.
Back on the HC1, Armbian seems to be considered a good distro if building from scratch :
https://www.armbian.com/odroid-hc1/
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With regard to power usage, odroid have measured it with a 5TB drive:
(http://com.odroid.com/sigong/_Files/comm/2017/201708/201708220059557515.jpg)
http://com.odroid.com/sigong/blog/blog_list.php?bid=189
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I don't see any type of cover available for it?
They have one now:
https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/odroid-hc1-case-clear/
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So, how difficult for a computer newbie to configure? Would a completed unit require operating software, if so what would you recommend? I would plan to use this in close proximity with a new music streamer/DAC to store my CD FLAC music collection.
NB
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So, how difficult for a computer newbie to configure?
Hi NB, might not be the best choice in that case? Perhaps have a look at e.g. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822108181
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Just remember the case is made for a 2.5 inch (laptop size) drive, not a 3.5 inch drive that is more available in larger capacities.
There's a 3.5" version now:
https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/odroid-hc2-home-cloud-two/
(http://www.hardkernel.com/main/_Files/prdt/2018/201801/201801041642348573.jpg)
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Network throughput seems good (I'm using the 2.5" version):
bash-3.2# iperf3 -c odroidxu4 -i 1 -t 10
Connecting to host odroidxu4, port 5201
[ 7] local 192.168.1.67 port 54573 connected to 192.168.1.61 port 5201
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate
[ 7] 0.00-1.00 sec 83.6 MBytes 701 Mbits/sec
[ 7] 1.00-2.00 sec 80.1 MBytes 672 Mbits/sec
[ 7] 2.00-3.00 sec 83.9 MBytes 704 Mbits/sec
[ 7] 3.00-4.00 sec 82.2 MBytes 689 Mbits/sec
[ 7] 4.00-5.00 sec 85.7 MBytes 719 Mbits/sec
[ 7] 5.00-6.00 sec 112 MBytes 940 Mbits/sec
[ 7] 6.00-7.00 sec 112 MBytes 939 Mbits/sec
[ 7] 7.00-8.00 sec 111 MBytes 932 Mbits/sec
[ 7] 8.00-9.00 sec 111 MBytes 932 Mbits/sec
[ 7] 9.00-10.00 sec 111 MBytes 932 Mbits/sec
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[ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate
[ 7] 0.00-10.00 sec 973 MBytes 816 Mbits/sec sender
[ 7] 0.00-10.00 sec 972 MBytes 816 Mbits/sec receiver
iperf Done.
bash-3.2#
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Drive speed (SSD - old Apple drive):
root@odroidxu4:~# hdparm -tT /dev/sda1
/dev/sda1:
Timing cached reads: 2154 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1078.47 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 1012 MB in 3.00 seconds = 337.16 MB/sec
root@odroidxu4:~# dd if=/dev/zero of=/root/testfile bs=1M count=100 oflag=direct
100+0 records in
100+0 records out
104857600 bytes (105 MB) copied, 0.356716 s, 294 MB/s
root@odroidxu4:~#
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Actual file transfer speed over the network (using Samba):
fire:Downloads johnr$ time cp 305-MB-file.aif /Volumes/droidisk/
real 0m8.295s
user 0m0.002s
sys 0m0.497s
fire:Downloads johnr$ time cp /Volumes/droidisk/305-MB-file.aif deleteme.aif
real 0m8.362s
user 0m0.002s
sys 0m1.241s
fire:Downloads johnr$
That works out about 37 MBytes/sec read or write. A very basic test but seems slower than expected.
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So setting up my "Droid Stack" is under way!
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=175689)
These are the best thing since the Raspberry Pi :thumb: (IMO, YMMV, etc)
The one on top has a 4TB drive which I'm now setting up as a music server. The other three have SSDs.
(The one over on the right is an XU4, which is the same but different I/O.)
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JohnR, how are you liking it so far? Very tempted to try one out.
-Jim
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Hi Jim, they're working well. One's been running as a music server (minimserver+bubbleupnp+samba) for a while now, a couple others I've set up as web servers for testing. They are slower than online VPS though. I haven't tried OMV - intending to use one with borgbackup although it's taking a while to get around to it.... Armbian is based on Ubuntu 16.04 and I think pretty much everything I've needed to apt-get has been there.
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Hi Jim, they're working well. One's been running as a music server (minimserver+bubbleupnp+samba) for a while now, a couple others I've set up as web servers for testing. They are slower than online VPS though. I haven't tried OMV - intending to use one with borgbackup although it's taking a while to get around to it.... Armbian is based on Ubuntu 16.04 and I think pretty much everything I've needed to apt-get has been there.
Thank you!
-Jim
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I tried OMV on one of these and it seems to work fine. I'm not convinced overall by OMV, it's a little... fiddly, and it seems that in spite of the GUI you're expected to drop back into the command line at times anyway. I ran into this when I set up the logical volume manager and was unable to delete a snapshot volume from within the GUI. I think I'm going to stick with just a basic OS and Samba. Will update with results.
[PS fixed all the broken links above...]
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Well, since I mostly run a Mac "shop", I've installed AFP, which makes it easy to run Time Machine to the NAS. Carbon Copy Cloner does encrypted images of other drives. Basically followed these instructions here to install on Armbian: http://netatalk.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Install_Netatalk_3.1.11_on_Ubuntu_18.04_Bionic