What does "Saturation" mean?

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Hantra

What does "Saturation" mean?
« on: 11 Jan 2004, 11:36 pm »
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My Plinius says 175 watts into 8 ohms, and Saturation 200 Watts into 8, and 300 into 4.  Is that the point where the transformer can't take anymore power?  

I am trying to figure out rated power into 4 ohms, but it's not listed anywhere.

Thanks!

B

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What does "Saturation" mean?
« Reply #1 on: 11 Jan 2004, 11:57 pm »
Saturation is the definition in which headroom is lost. This is the point where the circuitry is at user maximum and any attempt to go beyond this point will result in a clipped waveform at the output.

Now, as for your 4 Ohm rating in RMS>

One can extrapolate that since you have an RMS (root mean square) rating of 175 into 8 and no 4ohm rating at RMS, then you can look at the peak power rating and extrapolate the percentage -10% of that percentage to be safe. Saturation also reads as a continuous measurement as well of a sine wave as hardly only a 12.5% increase in power on instantanious peaks would be an accurate measurement of say a 10mS burst...where many amplifiers enjoy a 50% headroom allowment.

Just to throw a figure out to you..and this by no means scientific and based on the information you provided..


I would safely say that in 4 OHMS, your amplifier can produce a good RMS of 260 watts.

Saturation is the point (depending on design) where the combination of power transformer/Power supply, Output transistors and heat build-up is at maximum. Saturation or "soaking" is usually referred to as a longer duration than a simple burst. I would be keen to know what that duration and bandwidth is for those figures supplied as the "saturation point" At 1khZ, power is higher at saturation in most designs than full power bandwidth.

WerTicus

What does "Saturation" mean?
« Reply #2 on: 14 Jan 2004, 05:15 am »
i would disagree with that figure, i am quiet certain it would be less than 250w rms into 4 ohms

i would say no less than 200w rms into 4... and somewhere inbetween those figures! :)

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« Reply #3 on: 16 Jan 2004, 07:59 pm »
Based on the history of Plinius products, 260 watts is conservative.

Notice this PDF

http://www.pliniusaudio.com/dow/pdf/sa250manual.pdf


Here is info on the P8 which is "greater than 300 watts/cha/4Ohms" at saturation.

http://www.pliniususa.com/products/p8/p8.html

WerTicus

What does "Saturation" mean?
« Reply #4 on: 17 Jan 2004, 10:55 am »
okay well if you have experience with that brand i would go with your figure! :)