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Industry Circles => Bryston Limited => Topic started by: 1oldguy on 19 Jul 2010, 04:58 pm
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This from a 12 year old,..........................I'm 12 and all I listen to is classic rock. The music these days is ruined.
Your millage may very of course but I have to agree with this statement as much as I wish it weren't the case.
Most people listen with their eyes,which I believe accounts for a large part of the problem.
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Well I'd say that there is still a gem to be found here and there in contemporary music, however courtesy of RIAA and their hordes of britneys the signal/noise ratio is extremely low. I'd say that going to the record store and picking a random CD you have less than 1% chance to get something listenable. And if the music is OK, then you'll have another 1% chance of being decently recorded.
For a couple of months now I'm not buying anything contemporary. :finger:
Nap.
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MUSIC is the litmus test of the soul.Which is one thing that is severely lacking today for most.
I'm to the point if a band has some weirdo name I just reject it outright.
Such as:Goo Goo Dolls,Third Eye Blind,Lady Gaga,Snoop Dog,and so forth.Bands that rely on shock value in the name usually have little to offer this old Guy.Right or wrong I admit to being put off with names as silly as this.
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I feel sad for him/her. It seems he/she has been influenced into being blind. There is so much new good music I am generally overwelmed at times. All you have to do is listen.
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Don't feel say for me LOL.Think of it this way,While my selection of music that I enjoy may not be as numerous as some others,the joy I get when I do find new music that I do enjoy is felt ten fold as it were.Or when a someone is panning for gold,might take an entire summer to find what he/she is looking for but once found there is no denying the joy at finding such a treasure.See,it all balances out in the end.
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I'm to the point if a band has some weirdo name I just reject it outright.
Yah, like The Beatles or Led Zeppelin or Creedence Clearwater Revival. What's up with those weirdos? :wink:
But I've also heard young people listening to 70's music because the new stuff is "all crap". Surprised me.
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I feel sad for him/her. It seems he/she has been influenced into being blind. There is so much new good music I am generally overwelmed at times. All you have to do is listen.
Could you kindly enlighten us with some examples? Like a couple of albums released the past months?
Nap.
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Could you kindly enlighten us with some examples? Like a couple of albums released the past months?
So I am to prove to you that there is good music even though I don't know your tastes?
Are you saying you can't name any? None?!?!
Anywhoo here are some fantastic albums from quite recently.
Broken Bells: Broken Bells
David Byrne & Fatboy Slim: Here Lies Love
The New Pornographers: Together
The Black Keys: Brothers
LCD Soundsystem: This is Happening
These are pretty mainstream and all top quality.
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Could you kindly enlighten us with some examples? Like a couple of albums released the past months?
Nap.
Are you saying you can't name any? None?!?!
I probably could not name any new releases for this year :o
Be well...
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I looooovvve music from the 90's, as in 1790's and 1890's. I can just hear someone saying 160 years ago about Mendelsohn's e flat violin concerto, "ya know this music really sucks, I can only listen to the music of Beethoven, Schubert et al from back in the 20's".
In the words of the wise teacher, "there is nothing new under the sun".
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:D hey wait a momento,Third Eye Blind had a couple good records ...... :thumb: :D
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Very attuned! I am amazed by 2 things: Teens or younger listening to classic rock instead of death metal or gangsta. And that you see classic rock cover bands and that genre resurgence everywhere. 90's music? 00 music? you might hear a tune or two throw in, but classic rock spans the generations far better than a lot of genres.
I was in line, and there was this pretty young lady cashier, maybe 18, just out of high school. The radio next to her register was the local classic rock station. I said "I am really surprised someone your age isn't listening to something more modern." Without missing a beat she says "No way, modern music sucks, there is no talent now."
Actually, there's lots of fantastic modern music but they rarely play it on the radio or MTV or any mainstream venue so most people don't know about it. Thank God the internet has made it possible to search and find great new artists. Access to good modern music is the only reason I got back into the audio hobby. I had a long hiatus from this hobby after I got feed up with no good music back in the late 90s. Now days, I consider the music hunt just another hobby and a lot of fun.
Regarding classic rock, I listened to that to death back in the late 70's and all through the 80's. I burnt out on that a long time ago. I dumped all my classic music years ago. I easily own more than 200 CDs that are all post year 2000 production. And it's wonderfully good. And the production value is almost always excellent and superior to 30 and 40 year old recordings. I buy mostly acoustic modern folk, acoustic pop, acoustic rock, alternative country.
Listen to Joe Pug's latest or Blind Pilots new debut and tell me there's no good modern music. You do have to be selective and hunt it down, but there's lots of good stuff. I actually think we are turning a corner in the music industry where quality song writing and production is more common than it used to be.
If anybody wants a list of 20 or 30 post year 2000 recordings that I highly recommend, just ask. I'd love to share. :)
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I am sorry jaxwired that's just impossible.
It's all crap so says so says some 12yr old.
Question:what the hell does a 12 year old know?
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So I am to prove to you that there is good music even though I don't know your tastes?
Are you saying you can't name any? None?!?!
Anywhoo here are some fantastic albums from quite recently.
Broken Bells: Broken Bells
David Byrne & Fatboy Slim: Here Lies Love
The New Pornographers: Together
The Black Keys: Brothers
LCD Soundsystem: This is Happening
These are pretty mainstream and all top quality.
Oh c'mon. Tried to see what this is about.
"Put-put-put your hands together
For the silver bullet make me
Put-put-put your heads together
For the cause and cure we’re waiting"
Repeat ad nauseam. Kick the drums one more time.
:duh: Nap.
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I can just hear someone saying [...] about Mendelsohn's e flat violin concerto, "ya know this music really sucks, I can only listen to the music of Beethoven, Schubert et al from back in the 20's".
True, I can't stand Mendelssohn. How did you guess?
Nap. :oops:
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I'm to the point if a band has some weirdo name I just reject it outright.
Such as:Goo Goo Dolls,Third Eye Blind,Lady Gaga,Snoop Dog,and so forth.
Now don't dismiss Lady Gaga. You get a Playboy magazine disguised as a CD booklet.
Nap. :green:
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I am sorry jaxwired that's just impossible.
It's all crap so says so says some 12yr old.
Question:what the hell does a 12 year old know?
With some of them,More than we think.
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True, I can't stand Mendelssohn. How did you guess?
Nap. :oops:
Pick a composer you do like from that period and the point remains the same. Nap, you are the Audio Circle counterpart of a drive by shooting :guns:
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Pick a composer you do like from that period and the point remains the same. Nap, you are the Audio Circle counterpart of a drive by shooting :guns:
And enjoying it very much, Sir!!!
I like Berlioz though. :wink:
Nap. :P
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^^^^ Just remembered that Laundrew dog's name is Hector too.... 'Fess it up Laundrew, you hate Berlioz, eh?
Nap. 8)
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^^^^ Just remembered that Laundrew dog's name is Hector too.... 'Fess it up Laundrew, you hate Berlioz, eh?
Nap. 8)
Berlioz :scratch:
I do not believe he was a goth, was he? I must say that you all listen to some very odd music here - "sigh" mainstreamers... :P :wink: :D
:rotflmao:
Be well...
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Berlioz :scratch:
I do not believe he was a goth, was he? I must say that you all listen to some very odd music here - "sigh" mainstreamers... :P :wink: :D
:rotflmao:
Be well...
Looks steampunk to me:
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And his Requiem is kinda' dark thing too.....
Nap. :P
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Classic rock is ok in small doses. I try not to listen to it too much, because it is played out to me. But, I'll always love the hard rock and heavy metal of the 60s to the present.
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Classic rock is OK in small doses. I try not to listen to it too much, because it is played out to me. But, I'll always love the hard rock and heavy metal of the 60s to the present.
Actually I agree with you.
I should point out that I personality listen to way to many styles of music to be tied down to classic rock.My purpose in posting in the first place was to show that even some kids are aware enough to realize that something is off the mark with today's music..Of course I'm referring to what is popular.This is what the kid was comparing it too.Lets face it,even an ostrich wouldn't bother pulling his head out of the sand for most of today's popular music.
As regards the Weirdo names artists are sometimes using, perhaps it would help if I explained it a little for those who may be internally confused.
When your in a store and just looking at all the covers of CD's,that is the artist trying to grab your attention in the hopes of getting your money.Today's trend is to shock you,vying for your attention.IF a cover is way out there and you get this thing home,and pop it into your player and it's nothing like the image portrayed,chances are the buyer isn't going to be satisfied.Or picture if you will someone buying and adult magazine but all the lovely ladies have all their clothes on,again the product is not what you thought you were getting.
I guess I must really be getting old as I have little time for mass anything at this point in my life.Music can revel so much for those who are attuned enough to pay attention.
In those few seconds you have that never before seen CD cover in your hands it could be likened to meeting people.You know pretty quickly if you'd rather distance yourself or not.For me the same thing applies to music.
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Agreed :thumb:
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Let me categorize classic rock a bit. Aerosmith, Van Halen, Kiss, boston's 1st album stuff that dominated 75-1984. That stuff has been overplayed, especially when it's always the top 2-3 songs, never a deep cut.
Stuff that began about 1967 like Vanilla fudge, Cream, 10 years after, motorhead, deep purple (other than smoke on the water) Black sabbath machine head, uriah heep, UFO and the like simply don't show up on classic rock stations. In most markets you'd have to have satellite radio. Even though we are talking music that precedes classic rock by many years- I am less worn out on heavy metal/hard rock due to lack of everyday (over)exposure.
I'm not sure how you mixed Vanilla Fudge here, but once you've heard something like their version of "The Look Of Love" you can easily understand how they don't show up on rock stations. It's not even rock, unless you accept that a sound suggesting stoned Pink Floyd singing in slow-motion inside an aquarium is.
Sure there's a novelty factor to their stuff, but once you've listened to it a couple of times it wears out.
Nap.
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Let me categorize classic rock a bit. Aerosmith, Van Halen, Kiss, boston's 1st album stuff that dominated 75-1984. That stuff has been overplayed, especially when it's always the top 2-3 songs, never a deep cut.
Stuff that began about 1967 like Vanilla fudge, Cream, 10 years after, motorhead, deep purple (other than smoke on the water) Black sabbath machine head, uriah heep, UFO and the like simply don't show up on classic rock stations. In most markets you'd have to have satellite radio. Even though we are talking music that precedes classic rock by many years- I am less worn out on heavy metal/hard rock due to lack of everyday (over)exposure.
Exactly. Those bands for the most part are not overplayed or played at all. As far as Kiss and Aerosmith are concerned, their deep cuts are not played on the radio, as you alluded to. FM radio, that is. They do have songs that could be called hard rock/heavy metal, so I'm not quite sick of them. Another band that's a bit overplayed is AC/DC, particularly the 'Back in Black' album.
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Well, I'm not too burned out on them, as I mainly play the albums that came before those 2. Although, I still dig 'Highway to Hell' in small doses.
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Can't listen to because they were overplayed (at least on the radio stations I used to listen to): Beatles; Led Zeppelin; all heavy metal; Rolling Stones; Boston; Pink Floyd. I swear Led Zep was played every third song. Oh yeah, "freebird" (the song) was played every fourth song. I have zero CDs from this era.
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Can't listen to because they were overplayed (at least on the radio stations I used to listen to): Beatles; Led Zeppelin; all heavy metal; Rolling Stones; Boston; Pink Floyd. I swear Led Zep was played every third song. Oh yeah, "freebird" (the song) was played every fourth song. I have zero CDs from this era.
I can listen to anything :weights:
except maybe the Beatles. Which IMHO are overrated.
Nap.
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Can't listen to because they were overplayed (at least on the radio stations I used to listen to): Beatles; Led Zeppelin; all heavy metal; Rolling Stones; Boston; Pink Floyd. I swear Led Zep was played every third song. Oh yeah, "freebird" (the song) was played every fourth song. I have zero CDs from this era.
So, what do you listen to?
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I can listen to anything :weights:
except maybe the Beatles. Which IMHO are overrated.
Nap.
:peek:
Some of the Beatles' stuff is...but they still kick ass!
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A lot of the bands I listed are good artists, I just cannot listen to them because I heard them too many times. (Oh, I forgot the Doors.) To show you how bad it is, here's a recent indication. I bought a new car, which has satellite radio. In searching for stations, I tried some "rock" stations. If notes of a Beatles or Led Zep song came on, I immediately turned the channel. This happened so often that I've given up on "rock" stations.
These artists are good artists. It's just that when you've heard a song a million times, you've heard a song a million times.
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I can listen to anything :weights:
except maybe the Beatles. Which IMHO are overrated.
Nap.
:peek:
I agree. However, I do enjoy their "darker" albums, in moderation.
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We each like what we like.
When I was young, I did not like Jazz. Then just when Ken Burns Jazz series came out, I watched it, and suddenly I 'got' Jazz. So I changed gears in my 40's.
Spent a few years playing catch up on Jazz.....
This last year I decided to 'freshen' my rock collection, as I had stopped listening to new stuff around 1987 or so, when MTV stopped full time rock videos, (Atlanta also had all weekend night long rock videos too back then)
I decided to play catch up and buy (used) all the better 'rock' music up to year 2000 that I missed. I bought 1,300 CDs. and like 400 LPs in the last year. Interesting. I have to say i found a LOT of interesting trends in newer (newer that 1985) music. I have not purchased much post 2000 music due to not having an easy source of info i can carry to find stuff (I use the ALL MUSIC GUIDE book).
I like a lot of music. I like finding new music I can love. So to say I would not bother to listen because I agree with some 12 year olds' notion... wow... crazy.
First off, 12 year olds DO NOT HAVE ORIGINAL IDEAS. They have copied ideas, from some significant 'other'. Whom ever is thier mentor, thier ideal, THOSE are the notions they spout. So thinking they have 'wisdom' is totally hilarious.
Just my two cents on twelve year olds.
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Can't listen to because they were overplayed (at least on the radio stations I used to listen to): Beatles; Led Zeppelin; all heavy metal; Rolling Stones; Boston; Pink Floyd. I swear Led Zep was played every third song. Oh yeah, "freebird" (the song) was played every fourth song. I have zero CDs from this era.
Right on brother. It was great music, no doubt about it, but people need to move on.
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A lot of the bands I listed are good artists, I just cannot listen to them because I heard them too many times. (Oh, I forgot the Doors.) To show you how bad it is, here's a recent indication. I bought a new car, which has satellite radio. In searching for stations, I tried some "rock" stations. If notes of a Beatles or Led Zep song came on, I immediately turned the channel. This happened so often that I've given up on "rock" stations.
These artists are good artists. It's just that when you've heard a song a million times, you've heard a song a million times.
I can believe that.
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I can believe that.
Makes sense. I can't stand the music that I grew up with, so if I hear pretty much anything that can fall into the genre of "Pop Heavy Metal" I just might gouge my eardrums out with and ice pick. Luckily I didn't grown up with classic rock, so it's still fairly new to me.
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It's just that when you've heard a song a million times, you've heard a song a million times.
Mhhhh how many times can you see the same *movie* again and again before getting sick just at the thought that you'll see it once more? :icon_twisted:
I'm amazed by kids, they can watch the same cartoon all day long in a loop and they still don't get bored...... :duh:
Nap.
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Makes sense. I can't stand the music that I grew up with, so if I hear pretty much anything that can fall into the genre of "Pop Heavy Metal" I just might gouge my eardrums out with and ice pick. Luckily I didn't grown up with classic rock, so it's still fairly new to me.
"Pop Heavy Metal?" Which bands?
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"Pop Heavy Metal?" Which bands?
Static X, Korn, Limp Biscuit, or Bizcit, or Bizcuit, one of those. Radio Metal.
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Oh geez. Yeah, that's pretty bad...lol.
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We each like what we like.
When I was young, I did not like Jazz. Then just when Ken Burns Jazz series came out, I watched it, and suddenly I 'got' Jazz. So I changed gears in my 40's.
Spent a few years playing catch up on Jazz.....
This last year I decided to 'freshen' my rock collection, as I had stopped listening to new stuff around 1987 or so, when MTV stopped full time rock videos, (Atlanta also had all weekend night long rock videos too back then)
I decided to play catch up and buy (used) all the better 'rock' music up to year 2000 that I missed. I bought 1,300 CDs. and like 400 LPs in the last year. Interesting. I have to say i found a LOT of interesting trends in newer (newer that 1985) music. I have not purchased much post 2000 music due to not having an easy source of info i can carry to find stuff (I use the ALL MUSIC GUIDE book).
I like a lot of music. I like finding new music I can love. So to say I would not bother to listen because I agree with some 12 year olds' notion... wow... crazy.
First off, 12 year olds DO NOT HAVE ORIGINAL IDEAS. They have copied ideas, from some significant 'other'. Whom ever is their mentor, their ideal, THOSE are the notions they spout. So thinking they have 'wisdom' is totally hilarious.
Just my two cents on twelve year olds.
HI Elizabeth
I think you perhaps have missed the point somewhat.But hey that's not a crime,at least, not yet.
Think of it this way for but just a moment.Age is only a number,No?So going by your reasoning it would be akin to thinking only older people,Sometimes called adults have wisdom and therefore inherently wise, making SOUND(Pun Intended) decisions.Somehow I don't think that's the case.I agree that most 12 years old need someone to wipe their nose after a hot meal though.
I don't recall stating the child had wisdom.But wise or not(I'll leave that part up to you) he was able to make a distinction between something he likes and dislikes.Regardless of age,isn't that what we all do?And no,I did not say I don't listen to certain types of music because of this kid.I merely pointed out what he said to emphasize my point,not his. .It helps to focus on what what said,rather than assuming.I get the feeling comprehension isn't one of your strong points. We all know what assuming makes out of us all.
So I can see where your reasoning should have Ziged instead of Zagging.
Be Well .......as they say.
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HI Elizabeth
I think you perhaps have missed the point somewhat.But hey that's not a crime,at least, not yet.
Think of it this way for but just a moment.Age is only a number,No?So going by your reasoning it would be akin to thinking only older people,Sometimes called adults have wisdom and therefore inherently wise, making SOUND(Pun Intended) decisions.Somehow I don't think that's the case.I agree that most 12 years old need someone to wipe their nose after a hot meal though.
I don't recall stating the child had wisdom.But wise or not(I'll leave that part up to you) he was able to make a distinction between something he likes and dislikes.Regardless of age,isn't that what we all do?And no,I did not say I don't listen to certain types of music because of this kid.I merely pointed out what he said to emphasize my point,not his. .It helps to focus on what what said,rather than assuming.I get the feeling comprehension isn't one of your strong points. We all know what assuming makes out of us all.
So I can see where your reasoning should have Ziged instead of Zagging.
Be Well .......as they say.
Very well said. :thumb:
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I thought this thread was about music, not 12 year olds?
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I just don't understand what was need for the child to figure out?
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:lol:
This thread can use a 12 year old bin.....
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I thought this thread was about music, not 12 year olds?
I'm sorry but I want a divorce. :duh: I simply need to read the book,Men are from mars,Women are from Venus.
Your lack of social skills and comprehension are clearly evident.
Good Day to you Mam.
Be Well
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I simply need to read the book,Men are from mars,Women are from Venus.
Venus has a thick poisonous atmosphere. Which explains it all.
Nap. :lol:
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This board/site is suppose to be about high end applications and personal use of Bryston gear and not about 12 year old attitudes/experience. For those that are so app to post and feel the need to, go post on the Radio Shack board. Its probably the best suited electronically also.
Sorry elizabeth, this is embarassing to me that somebody like yourself who actually takes the hobby seriousily have to put up with this on a so called audiophile board...... its really ridic.
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Hi werd
With all due respect,I made a statement and was criticized for it by another member who wasn't shy about attacking my character.
For the record I have no problem with anyone who disagrees with what I say,but there is such a thing as social skills.
If one chooses to make an issue of character on a public forum,be they male or female they should also be mature enough for a rebuttal,no?
Live long and Prosper.
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Hi werd
With all due respect,I made a statement and was criticized for it by another member who wasn't shy about attacking my character.
For the record I have no problem with anyone who disagrees with what I say,but there is such a thing as social skills.
If one chooses to make an issue of character on a public forum,be they male or female they should also be mature enough for a rebuttal,no?
Live long and Prosper.
I don't see her attacking your character at all. What i do see is her trying to make sense of a retarded thread. And yes it's crazy trying to examine a 12 year old's mainstream listening habits and make sense of it. And to boot you guys started throwing the gender crap at her.
If this was a joke thread i would be all over it but you guys are serious. Come on, you can't actually care what a 12 year wants to listen to. I certainly don't, not here anyways. If you want to talk about a 12 year old you know that listens to Chopin, that might be relevant on the music board but here talking about kids who like classic rock, its just nonsense. It really is.
p.s.
i like classic rock
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Civil discourse. Discussion. Where is it? I made a non personal comment about why 12 year olds form opinions, It is taken as a personal attack. without questioning, or asking what did I mean, the response was an attack on me. Folks wonder why these boards go dead. When no one can be an independant voice, without constant fights, who would stay?
Nothing about what was the main part of my thread was discussed. only the little comment about 12 year olds and how they get thier ideas.
Sorry, this thread still has a chance to not be crap. If ANYONE wants talk about new music, or why they feel new music ALL sucks, and they have decided to ignore it totally.. then fine, lets discuss it.
I had (as I mentioned) ignored new Rock after about 1987 or so because i just found something else, that pretty much filled my needs for a long time. Jazz. Then i decided to get back into seeing where Rock had gone.
I sort of quit at New Wave, which I still love the Cars, and the B-52s. So I have just been buying tons of used CDs, and gradually finding out what is happening. A lot of minimalist infuence in music in the 90's.
I find groups like Art of noise and the Industrial movement exciting also.
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Hi Elizabeth , Werd
My post has been taken out of context by you both.How you both feel the subject matter was about children goes beyond me.It was about popular music both in the past and what we have today and the stark differences henceforth.But being a public forum that is the risk that sometimes things can be misconstrued.I do believe that I adequately addressed this in my first response to her post.But I digress as it seems to have done precious little to aid in understanding.
Perhaps a song can best calm the waters that be.
Live long and Prosper.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8_FOQ7-P30
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:o :scratch: :duh: :surrender: :singing: :thumb:
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"Sometimes it takes a child" ..... to be just plain argumentative.
Steve
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"Sometimes it takes a child" ..... to be just plain argumentative.
Steve
lame
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:lol:
I am really scratching my head on this reply - what exactly are you “laughing” at vegasdave :scratch:
Be well...
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"Sometimes it takes a child" ..... to be just plain argumentative.
Steve
Touche, Steve. I was just going to say that a real 12 year old would fit right in this thread. :argue:
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Touche, Steve. I was just going to say that a real 12 year old would fit right in this thread. :argue:
So are you saying you are 12 going on 13 here Dyna? Let us know when you turn 13
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Guess unlike most twelve year olds, I can relate to the OP cause at that age I was listening to what music I liked and buying it. Also unlike most people at that age I worked on my uncles farm making my own money. I bought what I wanted, this included my own school books and clothes, not what others (older and my age) thought was good. Because of that, and a great radio station out of Chicago when I was growing up, I was able to hear a lot of different types of rock. I can kind of agree about the music today cause it seems to be all about the little message they are trying to state and not much about the music that comes with it. I listen to a "new rock" station sometimes most just seems to be fluff. I mean it could be a neat little tune but instrumentals just don't seem to be there. I miss my guitar solos.
Don
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I remember when I was 12 years old, my favourite place to visit was the local land-fill site, they were called “dumps” back then. The curator used to let me have as much electronic treasures as I could carry away and the pickings were awesome as it was all vacuum tube radios. I would get home and splice together a few sets to make a working one. My room was awesome - if you bumped something and it fell, the resulting short circuit always displayed a most awesome flash of light followed by many smoke plumes. This always necessitated another trip back to the dump to find replacement parts.
At the time, I did enjoy listening to rock music from our local radio station, but as most of my radios were shortwave sets - I much preferred to listen to international news stations from all over the world for hours on end.
I literally had the world in my room :D
Be well...
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Laundrew - That explains a lot about you. I'd be willing to bet your friends and those around you didn't have a clue who you were back then.
Stay Cool
Don
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Laundrew - That explains a lot about you. I'd be willing to bet your friends and those around you didn't have a clue who you were back then.
Stay Cool
Don
They just thought I was really weird. Hmmm… come to think of it, I still experience a lot of this today.
:wink: :P :lol:
Be well...
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I am really scratching my head on this reply - what exactly are you “laughing” at vegasdave :scratch:
Be well...
Because werd said "lame."
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So are you saying you are 12 going on 13 here Dyna? Let us know when you turn 13
Happened 46 years ago, werd. Not sure I get your response. I'm simply agreeing with Steve that this thread has been taken over by a bunch of adults acting like 12 year olds. Your defensive posture is revealing in that regard.
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Happened 46 years ago, werd. Not sure I get your response. I'm simply agreeing with Steve that this thread has been taken over by a bunch of adults acting like 12 year olds. Your defensive posture is revealing in that regard.
:lol:
Gotchya!!! i was only teasing...... :D
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From the main man himself.......In Obama's opening statement in this Paul McCartney's tribute he sum's up why I started the thread in the first place.
Quote:By it's very definition,Popular music is fleeting.Rarely is it composed with an eye towards standing the test of time.And rarer still does it actually achieve that distinction.
See and hear for yourselves.
http://video.pbs.org/video/1554730433/