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Industry Circles => GR Research => Topic started by: Danny Richie on 24 Nov 2008, 04:30 pm
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I am going to do something a little different with this speaker.
I will not only offer it as a kit, but also offer it fully assembled and ready to play.
(http://www.gr-research.com/images/paudiopic.jpg)
(http://www.gr-research.com/images/ppair.jpg)
It uses a P-Audio 12" coaxial driver, one rear firing GR-T6 tweeter, and a pair of SW-12-16FR direct servo controlled woofers. All of this is in free air (open baffle).
Specs are: 97db sensitivity, easy 8 ohm load, smooth impedance, smooth frequency response (including off axis in any direction), flat bass response to 20Hz, and the low end range from 200Hz and down is completely adjustable. They can be driven with any stereo amp or mono-blocks including single digit, single ended amps.
Characteristics of this speaker are that it is fast like an electrostatic, and also completely open and transparent. Detail levels and resolution are good.Vocal range is excellent. Dynamics are outstanding (think scary good). Bass response is (I think) better than any speaker on the market. The bass is way fast and allows for detail levels in low bass that I didn't know were possible. I think I am having more fun listening to all kinds of music on these speakers than any other speakers I have had.
Room interactions and room loading effects are minimal. They even work well in rooms with little to no room treatment. These speakers can be used can be used in a small, medium, or large sized rooms as long as they can be pulled out at least 3 feet from the wall behind them.
I promise that the final version will look really good. Here are some drawings of the final version.
http://www.gr-research.com/pdf/p%20audio%201.pdf
Here is a wire frame one so you can see the structure beneath. You can also see the structure for the rear firing tweeter.
http://www.gr-research.com/pdf/p%20audio%202.pdf
Now, what to call them...?
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Hey, if the winner gets a pair for free, I'll definitely take off my Bill Holden autographed drinking helmet and put on my thinking helmet. :) - Pat PS - Love my Neos with Hank's baffle work.
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OB-Won
:D
OB-Extreme
OB-Coax
OB-Servo
ServOB
DynOB
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Maybe you could call it the Arcameter. "Those new Arcameters look awesome."
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"The Speakers I am Building"?
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AntiWAFs? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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OBAF-I
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AntiWAFs? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Okay, that was pretty funny.
There was a couple that came down from Norman Oklahoma a few days ago to here some speakers. He wanted to hear some open baffle speakers. The guy had already built some of my A/V-1's and was in the middle of building some A/V-3's.
I think the wife that he brought along would rather the speakers be heard and not seen, just like any other wife.
However, this one brought her own music and had really good ears. She listened quite a bit. After listening to these open baffle speakers she really didn't care anymore that they were out into the room. She didn't even really care what they cost. She told her husband that she liked the sound of those open baffle speakers and let him know that they needed some of those. :D
What a good woman. :thumb:
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GR Research Cobra - Co-axial Open Baffle w/ Resolution and Air
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OB-AMA's
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The Bulbous Ones.
Mike
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In the spirit of the Neo's I think the greek prefix for high (as in high efficiency) would be good:
ACRO
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GR-AERIS
Aeris means Air in latin!
Google did not give me any results for Aeris speaker
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Three woofers ...."Trifecta"
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Now, what to call them...?
Obenkenstein :P
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Those blue tube amps are REALLY SPIFFY!!! Who made them? :drool:
Are those speakers full range?
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How about the OBASS (OB & BASS)
Those blue tube amps are REALLY SPIFFY!!! Who made them?
Those are DODD Audio monster mono blocs - Beautiful aren't they!!
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Cobra is an excellent one, I think. I know it is a departure from your typical naming convention, but it is also a departure from your typical speaker!
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Are those speakers full range?
Yes, plus or minus only 2db from 20Hz o 20kHz.
Cobra is an excellent one, I think. I know it is a departure from your typical naming convention, but it is also a departure from your typical speaker!
Thanks mcgsxr. I am thinking the same thing. This one needs to be more than a model number or designation. It needs a name.
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How about COBax?
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Airgun
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Kinetic or Kinesis
a: active , lively b: dynamic , energizing <a kinetic performer>
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My first post to the GR circle. First off I have to say, Mr Richie you are designing some interesting projects. I just picked up your NEO2 kit, haven't had the time to put it together yet-soon. Your OB's are very intriguing. Suggestion for the name - how about Resolution, fullrange-OB. Or something to that effect.
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I could sure use a pr. of these in my living room.
i have built 10 different OB speakers, but I am sure that you
can do much better.
I liked you av3 very much at RMAF.
I love naming things. If you accept a name I propose,
do I get a prize?
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If you accept a name I propose, do I get a prize?
Yea, could be.
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GRungeless
:D
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That is one crazy looking speaker design Danny! Where do you come up w/ these ideas? My first thought was "where is the tweeter?". Oh, there it is... on the back, pointed kinda upward! I admire your creativity. Between this, your A/V O, your A/V RS... very creative designs. :bowdown: Heck, makes my Alpha's look boring!
I'm sure they sound great. Names... I'd pick something that might have some personal significance to you Danny (even it sounds a bit obscure to others). Makes your creation a bit more special.
Jon
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The 12" P-audio is a coaxial driver. There is a tweeter in the center of it. It plays through an acoustically transparent dust cap on the woofer.
The rear tweeter is to make it more of a full range dipole design. Technically I guess that would make it bipolar in the upper ranges. The rear tweeter also helps add a sense of air and space while at the same time leveling the impedance to make it more of a flat 8 ohms across the board.
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All right, I'll bite. OBehave! is my name suggestion. Since the bass is so behaved.
May I have kit if you accept the name? alot to ask, but man would I ever be enjoying life.
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Danny, have you come up with a general idea of what a finished speaker would cost? A ballpark figure would help for budgeting.
Thanks!
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I like OB One.
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Oh! Behave! Haaaaaaaaaaaa Austin Powers baaaby. :thumb: That makes me smile every time. love that! Sorry sorry, I'm thinking, I'm thinking.
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Catalyst. Likely the speakers to bring about a positive change in your system.
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I like catalyst!
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Oracles.
Have fun,
Jerry
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Cobra is an excellent one, I think. I know it is a departure from your typical naming convention, but it is also a departure from your typical speaker!
Thanks mcgsxr. I am thinking the same thing. This one needs to be more than a model number or designation. It needs a name.
Should "Cobra" be selected, and a prize awarded, I donate 100% of the prize to Mr. Baker to trick these out with the woodwork and select parts that only Response Audio can do. Not that he doesn't already have enough on his plate.
For your sake, Bill, I hope the prize isn't a punch in the face or a kick in the crotch. Either way, pictures of the process are a must!
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OB 5 Servo
OB DC Servo
OB Servo 5
Servo DC 5
Servo OB 5
DC Servo 5
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Well, I actually think the name might want to go along with the way it looks.
Cobra actually fits nicely as the speaker somewhat looks like a striking cobra with the top driver as the head, and the 'v' part of the speaker as the body propelling upwards.
I also think the GR Discovery is a nice sounding name...
-West
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Gents,
With the bass being so good, how about GR Mingus ?
Chris
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1. OB1 Kinoby.
2. Transcends
3. Vanishing Point
4. Stomp
5. Window Panes
6. Anti Speaker
7. Senshasas
8. Air Force or Air Force 1
9. Revolution since these are what I have wanted to see in a speaker for long time now.
10. SET Dream Kind of sounds like wet ..., well you know. A SET amp dream speaker.
11. SET Dream Lightning says it all really.
12. Fusion
13. Focus
14. Dynomite
15. It's too late, my brain is cooked. Time to go to bed.
Danny, you say the detail is "good". Can you quantify that, say compared to the other speakers you have made?
Rocket_Ronny :wink:
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Cobra is an excellent one, I think. I know it is a departure from your typical naming convention, but it is also a departure from your typical speaker!
Gotta agree here...Cobra is a great name for these....
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Gotta agree here...Cobra is a great name for these....
So far, I am favoring that one myself.
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Should "Cobra" be selected, and a prize awarded, I donate 100% of the prize to Mr. Baker to trick these out with the woodwork and select parts that only Response Audio can do. Not that he doesn't already have enough on his plate.
For your sake, Bill, I hope the prize isn't a punch in the face or a kick in the crotch. Either way, pictures of the process are a must!
Thanks for the kind words nrenter.
There are many highly talented wood workers here at AC but I would accept your offer :green:
I have been working up a design for Danny's OB dual woofer subwoofers for some time now and I think you will really enjoy what I have come up with. It might take me a little time to get them done (yes, I want a stereo pair as well).
I also have 3 pair of Danny's OB speakers here now. Two OB-7s and one pair of OB-5s. One of each are still new flat packs in crates so I have a bare canvas to work with. I know I will not be able to meet the standards that Carlos has exhibited but I do have some idea in mind for a nice overall system appearance.
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Cobra's can get et up by a mongoose... I vote for Black Mamba or Mojave Viper
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How about GR Magnums? If they go down to 20Hz, it seems like a good name.
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Danny
Two things that come to mind;
GR Keynote
or
GR Elite
Or here is a joke one; GR POWA for (pissed off wife again) :lol:
Regards,
Bill
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GR Perpetual Motion :thumb:
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Cobra is a great name. Especially if the speaker will look like the drawings Danny posted.
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...and the gearhead in him probably loves that whole Shelby thang :thumb:
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C.R.O.T.C.H.
or Circulating Revelators of the Curly Horns.
which is meaningless but we can add meaning afterward
Mike :D
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The ENTIRE setup is sweet!
Speaker Name: Fluid Dynamica Model #1
How about the OBASS (OB & BASS)
Those blue tube amps are REALLY SPIFFY!!! Who made them?
Those are DODD Audio monster mono blocs - Beautiful aren't they!!
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May I suggest:
Nubia
or
Naja
or
OB Naja
or
OB Nubia
Here is why (info from Wikipedia)
"In 2003, a new species of cobra was discovered at London Zoo in a shipment of illegal exotic pets. When zoo scientists thought they had a new species, they brought in Dr. Wuster who confirmed their belief. Although bearing a resemblance to the Red Spitting Cobra, DNA tests confirmed that it is in fact a new species altogether. Studies indicated that it originated from an area of Egypt and Sudan formerly known as Nubia. The new species, Naja nubiae or Nubian Spitting Cobra, has since bred at London Zoo."
I think as a new design, or new species for Danny, this would be appropriate, while including the already excellent "Cobra" theme he likes.
Whatda you think?
Z
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Whatda you think?
I think that I like your thinking. It makes good sense, but I not real found of the name itself. I am not sure most people would even know how to pronounce it. It also requires the telling of the story for one to get it.
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Mike - Yer cracking me up, buddy. Just spit tuna salad all over my laptop in burst of laughter :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Nebula: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebula (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebula)
http://astro.nineplanets.org/twn/types.html (http://astro.nineplanets.org/twn/types.html)
I don't know if Nebula is already in use (My limited search did not find any products.). Since the speaker is an OB and it's about free air...
Regards
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on the old beaten path I can only think of "OB Servo FR"
It does look like having some egyptian resemblance
OB Sphinx
Sphinx OB
On the other hand - a Full range speaker that is minimally sensitive to room interactions and is (hopefully) affordable ...
Would like to listen to them
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The GR-Research Imaginator's. They image well and get your imagination going while listening to music. :)
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OB De Facto :D
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The OB BO PU...
Man I am good at this naming thing. Can I make a career out of it! uhhh.. yeah.
Mike
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Andromeda. Or any other constellation....except Orion :wink:
Mike
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One of my other ideas is....
GR Research Victor
1. A person who has overcome or defeated an adversary; conqueror.
2. The one who won
3. A bit of a homage to the Victor Talking Machine Company and "His Master's Voice"
Do you think this is your most avant-garde design to date? If so, the GR Research Victor may be appropriate.
While your proposed aesthetic design is slightly modern, they could have a way-cool classy retro-classic vibe that reflects the style of the '40's - complete with a stamped, tarnished brass GR Research logo (in classic script, of course). These could be easily made to look like a killer find in an antique shop. They would remind you of your feisty grandfather (on your mother's side). You can swear you can smell pipe tobacco and old leather during late-night listening sessions. The glow of tubes romantically feature the period-true woodwork and advanced design. The sound transports you to a place and time where conveyance of musical nuance through a recording isn't just magical, but nearly unbelievable. The GR Research Victor can recreate this sense of marvel with today's modern recordings.
I've got a million more ideas, but you'll have to weed through such gems as "The Syphilis" and "Ultrafunkular Spectacular". I figure those don't have a snowball's chance in Hell. Awesome, nonetheless. But not commercially viable.
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"Ultrafunkular Spectacular".
I like that one! :lol:
Lee
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Here is the name I came up with: "Reach"
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Nice mock-up WerTicus. :thumb:
Danny, when will a pair be ready for me? :wink:
George
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Very nice, WerTicus!!!
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How about, The Venue, as in they take you to the live event. Yes, thats a good one guys, admit it. :lol:
Best,
Ed
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How about, The Venue, as in they take you to the live event. Yes, thats a good one guys, admit it. :lol:
Best,
Ed
I like it!!!
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I like Venue too. :thumb:
How about, The Venue, as in they take you to the live event. Yes, thats a good one guys, admit it. :lol:
Best,
Ed
I like it!!!
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Just curious...Are you using 1st-order crossovers on the BM-12cxa (I'm assuming that's the speaker you're using)? If so, will these speakers be time and phase aligned (the built in subs notwithstanding)?
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With the Weticus rendering I quickly thought of my other out of my league passion for fine mechanical watches and the Breguet inspired "Tourbillon" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbLITIynCgA The heart of the watch often shown in an open skeleton-ized form.
(http://www.breguet.com/admin/upload/image_big/5357PT129V6_big.jpg)
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WerTicus, I am floored. What an incredibly good rendering!
The Venue name is not bad.
Just curious...Are you using 1st-order crossovers on the BM-12cxa (I'm assuming that's the speaker you're using)? If so, will these speakers be time and phase aligned (the built in subs notwithstanding)?
They technically can't fall under that category because the voice coil of the compression driver (tweeter) slightly behind the voice coil of the woofer.
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It could be that I watched the gunfight scene from it recently, but I keep thinking of the movie Open Range.
Get it?
Open (baffle)
(full) Range
Then again it tends to make one think of the outdoors more than music or audio. :|
I'm having a tough time beating "Venue". I haven't heard that one before. It's good. :)
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Okay, okay,
+2 (spouse included) for
GR - "V E N U E"
L
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OK I shall try another:
the SWINE loudspeaker (Screw the Wife, I Need Efficiency).
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hehe
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Trinomial
Trifecta
Tried and True
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gr-ace
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Updated the artwork to fix a few mistakes: and since the venue is winning:
(http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/4639/venuxeby5.jpg)
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:D those look nice,well done.is there a sticker price on them yet ???? :D
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It is looking like the final price for a fully assembled finished out and ready to play pair is going to fall into the $4,900 range. I'll try to keep that as low as I can. Custom finishes and veneer choice might bump that up a bit though. It's all up to the customer.
All things considered though, that still may be a considerable bargain.
I really would like for a group of you guys to hear these. Maybe a little listening party is in order.
Well guys, I liked two of the suggested names.
I like the "Cobra" name and the "Venue" name. Maybe you guys can give me feedback on those two?
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Venue !!! :thumb:
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:D Venue is very classy.Danny,why no kit for ease of shipping and costs for the woodworkers here....?? i might bite on a kit for Canada....thks :D
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I'll do kits as well as fully assembled models.
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:D thks Danny, now your talkin' a poor boys native tongue.be a good winter project,do you have a kit stamp yet.... :D
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Yeah, I'm going with "Venue" as well. I think it's much more classy and presents a better brand image than "Cobra". No one want's to spend $5k on Cobra. However, a $5k Venue will fly out the doors.
No matter how good they sound, they'll now have to look as good (if not better than) WerTicus's mock-ups. He set the bar high for you, Danny.
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:D the next big question is....how do they sound in home ????? time will tell.get them to a rave or two with some good amps and see what the guys say. :thumb:
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No matter how good they sound, they'll now have to look as good (if not better than) WerTicus's mock-ups.
I think I have this covered.
the next big question is....how do they sound in home ?????
I know I have this part covered. This one is a home run.
I had Gary Dodd and gang over the Saturday before last, and I can't wait for a huge group of you guys to hear these. This one is really special. You'll see. :D
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As I was enjoying my OB7's with the servo sub in the OB H frame, I tried to imagine what these babies might sound like and tried to think of some kind of name.
What about Elemental? I think it captures essence of being bold, powerful, but natural.
Or what about a simple GR Research H.E. (series?) as in High Efficiency. Then you could consider the different models as number of components. So the coax, sub, and rear tweet could be called HE-3's, or no tweet HE-2's, etc... {I think high sensitivity is more proper than high efficiency, but I just like HE better than HS}
-Tony
Oops... Now I see this had already been narrowed down
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Venue :thumb:
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Danny, are you willing to disclose any crossover component discriptions, slope, frequency?
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my ob subwoofer has really broken in now... sounds killery sweet, has been playing the whole time I was making this artwork ;)
New updating coming soon, just waiting for the last update to the side cutout from Danny, which integrates the spikes. I've made the coax driver look like the real one now too instead of just being a 3rd woofer :oops:
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Danny, are you willing to disclose any crossover component discriptions, slope, frequency?
It's a first order crossover with a crossover point at 1kHz. The rear tweeter gets a Sonicap and the front tweeter gets a Sonicap by-passed by a Sonicap Platinum. The inductor on the woofer is an Erse XQ (air core perfect lay type).
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It's a first order crossover with a crossover point at 1kHz. The rear tweeter gets a Sonicap and the front tweeter gets a Sonicap by-passed by a Sonicap Platinum. The inductor on the woofer is an Erse XQ (air core perfect lay type).
Are you going to put an attenuator on the rear-facing tweeter? Just curious. I figure if you can dial in the low end, and dial in the "air", in theory this speaker should be able to play anywhere.
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Here is the final artwork - please feel free to check out my other work on my website in my sig should you need some high end 3d artwork of your own ;-)
small version:
(http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/578/thevenuespb5.jpg)
big version:
(http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/241/thevenuegx3.th.jpg) (http://img366.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thevenuegx3.jpg)
The lower link goes to an automatically resizing image if you click on it you should get the full sized image which is nearly native res for a 30inch monitor, in case someone fancies a wallpaper..
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Venue is a great name! :thumb:
While JBL has the "Venue" series of speakers, it just doesn't seem as fitting for them - considering that they're representing some of the lower end of JBL speakers at the moment.
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Venue is a great name! :thumb:
While JBL has the "Venue" series of speakers, it just doesn't seem as fitting for them - considering that they're representing some of the lower end of JBL speakers at the moment.
Bummer...I just checked the JBL website and the Venue Series name appears to be Trade Marked. I don't know what implications that brings with it but it is probably not good. Sorry Danny, I should have checked. :duh:
Best,
Ed
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I really would like for a group of you guys to hear these. Maybe a little listening party is in order.
Well guys, I liked two of the suggested names.
I like the "Cobra" name and the "Venue" name. Maybe you guys can give me feedback on those two?
We could have one here if you like Danny....
I'm firmly in the Cobra camp....
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I strongly recommend sending up a kit to Denny in Canada, so I can get an ear on these!
Cobra remains my favourite too.
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I really would like for a group of you guys to hear these. Maybe a little listening party is in order.
Well guys, I liked two of the suggested names.
I like the "Cobra" name and the "Venue" name. Maybe you guys can give me feedback on those two?
We could have one here if you like Danny....
I'm firmly in the Cobra camp....
I also like Cobra.
What day should I book my flight for? aa
George
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Well, if my "Venue" is out I like "IMPACT".
Best,
Ed
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I liked Venue. How about "Spectrum"?
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Watched this thread progress. I like Surreal or Majestic
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I'll rename the artwork when Danny makes a choice :)
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More lipstick please. Reconsider the overall look More vertical may be more elegant. H frames can be tough. Think Italian, why not?
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Man I really like Venue.
If it is out what about Mirage or Presence?
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How about The GR Stage? or Soundstage.
Or The GR Dynamic
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Okay guys, I hate to say it but I am leaning away from the Venue name.
For one: I just checked the JBL website and the Venue Series name appears to be Trade Marked.
Secondly, it doesn't translate well to other languages. The actually definition is more then often used in a way that would not define this speaker very well.
venâ‹…ue
   /ˈvɛnyu/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [ven-yoo] Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. Law.
a. the place of a crime or cause of action.
b. the county or place where the jury is gathered and the cause tried.
c. the designation, in the pleading, of the jurisdiction where a trial will be held.
d. the statement naming the place and person before whom an affidavit was sworn.
2. the scene or locale of any action or event.
3. the position taken by a person engaged in argument or debate; ground.
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GR Research Waffles
...I happen to enjoy waffles :)
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GR Research Momentum
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GR Research "Classic"
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GR Research Momentum
Dang, that's a good one too.
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GR Research "The voice"
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Euphonious? Or Euphonic?
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GR Research Synergy. :green:
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GR Research "The voice"
finally making a comment here,
I liked "Venue" but how about...
Voce
or, sono italiano per "voice"
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How about a name that fits the sound of this particular speaker?...Such as;
-Colossus
-Momentous
-Grandiose
-Leviathan
-Sovereign
-Monumental
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In the vein of a common naming scheme for all things big (e.g. the AV123 Rocket center channel, Bigfoot; the Mark Seaton subwoofer Sasquatch, etc.), you could call it the Yeti.
Something else that I think sounds good is "the Smile". It sounds right for some reason.
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Danny,
I got one! How about Continuum?
I found the definition as follows:
Continuum (theory), anything that goes through a gradual transition from one condition, to a different condition, without any abrupt changes or "discontinuities".
This is what we are in search of anyway, the reproduction of sound from a specific Medium without change from induced colorations and with the same dynamics.
What do ya think?
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- Accomodo
V TRANS
adapt| ADJust to| fit| suit; apply to| fasten on; apply/devote oneself to
or variants thereof: accomodare , accomodati
- GR 3.14159
- Dave ? :green:
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GR research Vanquish/Vanquisher
1 : to overcome in battle : subdue completely 2 : to defeat in a conflict or contest 3 : to gain mastery over (an emotion, passion, or temptation) <vanquish your fear>
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Hey Danny, Just out of curiosity, when are you making a decision? When you see something you like?
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Okay guys, I hate to say it but I am leaning away from the Venue name.
For one: I just checked the JBL website and the Venue Series name appears to be Trade Marked.
Secondly, it doesn't translate well to other languages. The actually definition is more then often used in a way that would not define this speaker very well.
venâ‹…ue
   /ˈvɛnyu/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [ven-yoo] Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. Law.
a. the place of a crime or cause of action.
b. the county or place where the jury is gathered and the cause tried.
c. the designation, in the pleading, of the jurisdiction where a trial will be held.
d. the statement naming the place and person before whom an affidavit was sworn.
2. the scene or locale of any action or event.
3. the position taken by a person engaged in argument or debate; ground.
As the North American market slows, the Asian buyers / influence will be more important.
Danny, I believe in the case of something new to so many folks (Open Baffle design), it is not wise to have a speaker with a name that simply re-enforces the obviousness of its size by screaming "shock and awe" or "NONWAF". Rather it is important to relay to those who have not heard OB done very well, the stupendous musical benefits you get from the OB concept driven by drivers specifically designed for OB that will actually provide a more satisfying musical experience than conventional speakers (in all frequencies and especially in the newly found articulate nature of bass notes).
As a result a name that contrasts the size, and suggests the "musicality" that awaits.
Hawthorne Audio has been selling OB drivers (both 15 inch and 10 inch drivers) for years now, and they have convinced their market that OB drivers are superior to boxed speakers when properly designed, executed, baffled, xovered, and finished. You can imagine one speaker which consists of a TRIO of 15 inch drivers stacked ontop of each other in a baffle (a concentric mid/ tweeter underpinned by two 15 inch bass drivers per side) being an imposing sight, however the delicacy of their presentation is astounding.
The name of the Hawthorne drivers (Silver Iris).
That is my input Danny, give the perspective buyer another layer of information with the name, not a name that will only draw the rock addict (which by the way the speakers can also do stupendously).
Example: "Lotus" (common symbol in Asian art, the lotus symbolizes birth and rebirth) may be an example of the way to state that these speakers provide "musical birth and rebirth" for those lucky enough to own them.
Just my two cents.
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an example of the way to state that these speakers provide "musical birth and rebirth" for those lucky enough to own them.
I like this concept the most of any I've heard so far.
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:D may be the first set to Canada comin' my way.love the looks of this speaker.. this design lends well with old time rock music i hope ???? :D
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I don't know guys. I still like:
Set Dream Lightning or Set Dream Stage.
This is a set amp owner's dream speaker. Make it plain in the name.
Rocket_Ronny
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I kind of like "GR Research Dual-Centric OB". It seems descriptive and to the point, although it doesn't have any flowery language associated with it. For something a bit more artsy, I've always liked the name "Medusa". It seems to symbolize both beauty and beast.
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Hey Danny, Just out of curiosity, when are you making a decision? When you see something you like?
I still have about two weeks before the finished cabinets get here so there is no real rush. I was hoping something would stand out. I may need to go back through the suggestions again and put some heavy thought into it. We'll figure something out.
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Removed by member.
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Geez, I thought venue was the winner.
I'll take one more stab at it...
GR Research - Dauntless
PS
daunt·less (dônt'lĭs, dänt'-)
adj. Incapable of being intimidated or discouraged; fearless; intrepid; bold: a dauntless hero...
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New from GR Research
The OBsession
Hadn't seen that one used yet so I threw it in the pot to chew on.
Good luck naming it, I'd really like to hear 'em!
My Best,
Jake
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GR Research
Harmony Series
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New from GR Research
The OBsession
Bummer, that one is trademarked.
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4fda21.2.1
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Toccata (from Italian toccare, "to touch") is a virtuoso piece of music typically for a keyboard or plucked string instrument featuring fast-moving, lightly fingered or otherwise virtuosic passages or sections, with or without imitative or fugal interludes, generally emphasizing the dexterity of the performer's fingers. Less frequently, the name is applied to works for multiple instruments (the opening of Claudio Monteverdi's opera Orfeo being a notable example).
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OK the competition ends here :D :-
OBeron
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GR Research OB Expression loudspeakers
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GR Research Beacon
GR Research Radiance
GR Research Cantata or Cantare
GR Research Essence
GR Research Chroma
You know the address to deliver my prize Danny....
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The GG Allins
:o
Mike
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Humbly, I would remind you that I named it in post #6: OBAF-I.
OpenBAFfle. "I" because it's the first iteration.
Okay, back to my phone conference with China... :(
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Freedom Series
-Freedom from box colorations found in most speakers today.
-Freedom to use any amp, including low powered Set amps.
-Freedom to excel with all types of music, unlike the restricted dynamics of many speakers.
-Freedom to have fun. Like having a 600 hp engine under the hood due to the high sensitivity.
Rocket_Ronny
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Savant-- the intelligent, educated (servo-bass) speaker. aa
----------Mark
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thats a good one :)
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Hi Danny and Everyone
There have been many good suggestions, but I think there are two ways to approach this naming thing. One is to not over-think things and just choose a name. The name probably does not matter if the product is what people want. The other is to choose something non-specific like OB DC SUB and let people make of it what they will. I suspect that Danny is taking his time to choose due to intellectual procrastination and is probably attracted to the second approach. I doubt one approach is better than the other, just different. This observation may not help, but it may promote focus on a particular naming strategy (if a name has not been chosen yet).
My best to All
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the more i think about it the less reason i see to suddenly change the naming convention that Danny has used so far.
so what if its your best speaker yet?... every speaker is your best speaker yet, hopefully, so why break the mould now for this one?
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The name probably does not matter if the product is what people want.
This could not be farther from the truth. However, if we want to follow that line of thinking, let's revisit my previous suggestion of "The Syphilis".
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the more i think about it the less reason i see to suddenly change the naming convention that Danny has used so far.
so what if its your best speaker yet?... every speaker is your best speaker yet, hopefully, so why break the mould now for this one?
That's a logical argument if Danny wants to keep on doin' what he's always been doing. I have no insight into his intent, but perhaps Danny wants to use this speaker as the catalyst to go after a more upscale / less DIY market, focus his offerings, change the image / perception of what GR Research stands for / offers, etc. If it's really only the sound that matters, make them look like hell, call them "Speaker 9ksSD8#s", ship them in overused cardboard boxes, stop interacting with people on these forums and start giving piss-poor customer service, etc. Am I digressing? No. My point is that an offering is much more than just the product itself - wether we like it or not. We may only want to pay for the drivers, the crossovers, and perhaps some MDF, but what we get is actually much more than the sum of those parts.
Just change the name "Lexus ES350" to "Sweet Ride by Jimmy" (and don't change anything else) and see what happens.
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GR Sweetness :green:
I'll bet nobody's using that for a speaker.
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I now like "Sweet Sound By Danny"
Hats off to nrenter! :thumb:
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I'll toss out:
OB Reality
Though I'm also partial to COBRA.
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Call it what it is. The High Efficiency Servo Linear Open Baffle. :green:
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GR Research Witness
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GR Research Witness
There's two of them, plural... GR Witnessess :lol:
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You're going for the high end . .
Some of these names seem so good they could well be trademarked, how about
Ultima (used by Revel??)
Ultimate
Transcendent (Transcendent Sound makes amplifiers)
Ultra
Empyrean (sounds noble, means the highest heaven, supposed by the ancients to contain the pure element of fire).
Could you get around the trademark problem by naming them eg Ultima II
(I could be interested in a small prize ;) )
Cheers,
Rick
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Another name hit me today, Heirloom.
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GR-Research Analogue Open Baffle High Efficiency Loudspeakers
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Heirloom, Why didn't I think of that. It's good.
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Texas Time Warp
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How 'bout GR Research "CHECKMATE"
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Analogue is nice, good pick corndog!
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Not sure if this has been suggested yet...
How about:
Plinth
The base of a structure or column.
Can be a play on words base/bass and that it forms the base or foundation of the sound you are going to be listening to.
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How about:
Obsidian.
Best......Carlo.
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GR Research "Revelry"
rev·el·ry (rvl-r)
n. pl. rev·el·ries
Boisterous merrymaking.
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Hey Rapt,
Of the better names submitted not too many pass the Trademark search, but yours did. It actually fits really well with the listening impressions of the speaker, and I kind of like it too. :thumb:
I am leaning pretty hard this direction. Good thinking!
The Vanquish
1 : to overcome in battle : subdue completely 2 : to defeat in a conflict or contest 3 : to gain mastery over (an emotion, passion, or temptation) <vanquish your fear>
I also want to give a big thanks to everyone that submitted names. You were all a really big help.
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It's also a pretty sweet car. :)
(http://designbit.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/aston-martin-vanquish-large.jpg)
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no, No , NO! Pleeze no Vanquish. You have GOT to be kidding me.
Vanquish the damn notion.
I humbly submit the name THE DOCTOR. These speakers should fix
whatever is ailing your sound system, assuming one has a decent source.
I won't give up until the
name is chosen.
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OB-Won
:D
OB-Extreme
OB-Coax
OB-Servo
ServOB
DynOB
Mon-OB-lyth
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how about "the decibel"
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OB-GYN?
Ok...Seriously now...How about "The Syphilis"
Or...Oblique or OB-lique (as in "not straightforward")
Or...Oblige or OB-lige (as in "to accommodate")
Or...Obsequious or OB-sequious (as in "showing too great a willingness to serve or obey; fawning")
Or...Obsess or OB-sess (as in "preoccupy greatly")
Or..."Gee this speaker sounds terrific"
Or..."Chicken McSpeaker"
No, no. No thanks, necessary. I'm here to help. That's what I do.
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I humbly submit the name THE DOCTOR. These speakers should fix
whatever is ailing your sound system, assuming one has a decent source.
It may travel through time as well! :lol:
How about Dalek? :green: aa
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GR OBs
GROBs
Grobs, n. 1. grief snobs 2. others who arrogantly believe that their grief is worse than anyone else's and aren't afraid to say it. -grobbish, adj.
"Man, my speakers sound so crappy compared to those GROBS. :bawl:
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How about Rapture
The state of being transported by a lofty emotion; ecstasy.
A state of elated bliss
Transporting from one place to another, especially to heaven.
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How about the big PP? :lol:
Geez I crack myself up...
or in the same vein...
OBelisk
baald
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This is so simple--please sign me up for a pair of Grobamas! :lol:
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:D how bout' 'Prairie Wind' as those babies will flood you with sonic winds when you crank-em.... :thumb:
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How about from Roman mythology, Jupiter - the king of the gods, and the god of sky and thunder . .
(the equivalent of Zeus in Greek mythology). I have a hunch those sort of old European names might go well in Asia . .
Or Ambrosia - the food or drink of the gods, often depicted as conferring ageless immortality upon whoever consumes it.
oracle - a person who delivers authoritative, wise, or highly regarded and influential pronouncements,
a divine communication or revelation
Apollo - the god of light and the sun; truth and prophecy; archery; medicine and healing; music, etc
And of course the spacecraft whick landed men on the and returned them safely to earth.
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If you want to get really creative, you can just drop the G from the name of the company and rebrand yourself as Richie, and make this the:
Richie Debut
Or if that conjures up images of nice bicycles, you could rebrand as
Danny Debut
Or the good old, "what does the GR stand for" GR-Research Debut. but that doesn't really work now, does it.
So Given the size and elegant appearance, I like something that has orchestral connotations, you could even get into opus numbers, or symphony numbers.
So I'm into GR-Concerto number X.
This would be where "symphony" would be for Really big speakers like line arrays, and "concherto" would be for smaller speakers, but still mighty nice, and so forth...
I don't really know, but I sure would love to build them.
Now it's back to painting my listening/bedroom.
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The Polyphony
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The Pontiff
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Ready to put my suggestion in.
GR Truth
Meaning that when you listen to the speaker, you hear a truthful reproduction of the original. Nothing added or taken away, just the pure original sound as intended by the recording engineers.
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GR Research Breasts (http://www.nevada.edu/~baldob/Breasts.gif)
...imagine the advertising possibilities!
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Hey Rapt,
Of the better names submitted not too many pass the Trademark search, but yours did. It actually fits really well with the listening impressions of the speaker, and I kind of like it too. :thumb:
I am leaning pretty hard this direction. Good thinking!
The Vanquish
1 : to overcome in battle : subdue completely 2 : to defeat in a conflict or contest 3 : to gain mastery over (an emotion, passion, or temptation) <vanquish your fear>
I also want to give a big thanks to everyone that submitted names. You were all a really big help.
Hey Danny that's 8) :thumb: :green:
How long do you think it will be before a pair is finished?? Very interested..
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GR Research Breasts (http://www.nevada.edu/~baldob/Breasts.gif)
...imagine the advertising possibilities!
Haha! or how about BOOBS aa
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How about:
UNBOUND
Heres why I think it would work, it's an open baffle with no bounderies, obviously. Also, it almost in a way gives homage to another great (at one time) speaker manufacturer that started it's company much like your did with break through technology and trying "out of the box" designs.
Unboundedness, it refers to several distinct concepts – usually linked to the idea of "without end" – which arise in philosophy, mathematics, and theology. Also read as...Infinity.
Anyway, I like it and it has meaning besides just a name.
Chris
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How about Rush or The Rush?
added: GR Research presents The Rush open baffle loudspeakers.
Says fast and airy pretty well. Imagining an ad with an attractive women in wind-blown flowing gown in front of speaker.
tagline: "Get The Rush from GR Research"
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Well since "The Doctor" was suggested I would then submit
TARDUS "Space and Time machine".
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Danny
What's your target market with this speaker? If its $5 k to sell high end/ export, vs say $2.5k as a kit domestically, I'd think that appropriate names might be very different . .
Cheers
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Well since "The Doctor" was suggested I would then submit
TARDUS "Space and Time machine".
Or TARDIS (Time And Relative Dimension(s) In Space(Wikipedia)) :green:
Ah the spelling must be to get away from copyright! Good thinking! :thumb:
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This one was e-mailed to me and I thought I'd get some feedback on it:
"In my verbal discussions with my audiophile focus group, many commented on the name "SPL". As far as something that is "stated" from one person to another they all seemed to think this name was very "catchy". They said they could imagine audiophiles saying things like:
- "Have you hear the new SPL speaker by GR Research?"
- "Those new SPL's by GR Research really rock, you really have to hear them!"
From a marketing "gift of gab" standpoint, I think my focus group has a fairly valid standpoint here, particularly with names like this one, it is not easily forgettable."
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SPL sounds like a pro monitor to me, but what do I know.
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I don't like SPL. It brings to mind "loudness", not "quality".
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I don't like SPL. It brings to mind "loudness", not "quality".
I was thinking the same thing, but just wanted to see that others were thinking the same.
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Reminds me of car audio. As in SPL contests.
Throwing out another bump for "Analogue". :)
Ooh! ooh! How about "Veracious"?
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Reminds me of car audio. As in SPL contests.
Throwing out another bump for "Analogue". :)
Ooh! ooh! How about "Veracious"?
How about the "Mistress"? You'll spend so much time away from your wife listening to it, she'll accuse you of having one 8)
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GR Open
GR Air
GR Horizons
GR Visions
GR Skyscape(s)
Some serious ones. Im told Im much too jokey.
Mike
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OB-GYN?
Ha! You think like me, not at all helpful. The ratio of jokes to serious ideas is like 5 to 1. Poor Danny. How about a food name. Food shows are so popular. :wine:
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This one might work:
GR Research RENDER
(1): to reproduce or represent by artistic or verbal means (2): to furnish for consideration, approval, or information: as (1): to hand down (a legal judgment) (2): to agree on and report (a verdict)
It's got a nice ring to it, easy to remember and classy.
Chris
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How 'bout Opal? Kind of a contraction of open baffel too. :D Or you could use any other birthstone, except Sapphire. :nono:
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An speaker called SPL to me says it can play loud, but also implies “just” loud, maybe a PA sound . .
Of course its not just SPL we like, its unrestrained, clean effortless SPL . .
The GR Research Effortless
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How about...
GR research Pandora, play on words, pandora without the evil box, you could say this Pandora has no box nor do they have any of the evils associated with them :thumb: :scratch: :green:
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In case this is possible...start treading into the latin...
The GR Research Exemplar - "true to the original, every time you play it."
From the latin;
exemplar: model, pattern, original, prototype, book to copy
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Or, a little Greek
The GR Research Muse (a a sisterhood of goddesses or spirits, their number set at nine by Classical times, who embody the arts and inspire the creation process with their graces through remembered and improvised song and stage, writing, traditional music, and dance. Wikipedia)
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The GR Research Polyhymnia (The Muse of Sacred Song)
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The GR Research Harmonia - In Greek mythology, Harmonia is the immortal goddess of harmony and concord. Her Roman counterpart is Concordia, and her Greek opposite is Eris, whose Roman counterpart is Discordia.
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The GR Research Zephyr - the West Wind
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GR Research Rendition
It is a term that means "handing over" or "surrender" this would refer to the fact these are not a kit, but come ready to go. The idea being that this is a design a build that is a better representation of the designer/builder and not left to the discretion of a DIY builder.
It also refers to the version or interpretation of the music from the point of view of the designer.
Wiki "An interpretation of a musical score or a performance of a musical work."
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Hi, have been watching the posts about this speaker, which looks like something I could be very interested in from what I've read so far-efficiency, lack of box-colouration, bass control and without the need for a multitude of amplifiers..getting WAF is the only real obstacle I can forsee, aside from finding the cash!
Look forward to seeing how it develops and hope a kit may materialise as I live on the other side of the Atlantic. Not entirely sure about some of the side swoops, but the mock-up's look almost there.
Anyway, the naming thread has been amusing and I thought I'd throw something in.. Claro and Alegria were my first thoughts but I think they've already been taken,
So playing on the open baffle aspect, I give you: The GR Research Obia- 'a monster sent by witches to kidnap young girls from the village.' :icon_twisted:
Obi or Obeah seems to have various forms and meaning, including storyteller, magician, spirit, spell etc
Bring it on!
Gareth
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So we have too many pages of this to see too many ideas, I thinks its time for a database (well more like a list), upon which to run a survey. Not that this is anything like voting on what to name a street in Dallas...
Now I'm liking OBwan.
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Danny
You said in your first post "I think I am having more fun listening to all kinds of music on these speakers than any other speakers I have had"
So I would like to submit "GR Research Revival" catchy :thumb:
Revival: there are many definitions but here are a few that fit the best:
Definition:
1. renewal of interest: a renewal of interest in something that results in its becoming popular once more ie: MUSIC
2. recovery: the recovering of life, consciousness, or full strength ie: Dynamics
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A simple alphanumberic like the current series isn't bad. OB-1 for the top of the line in GR's Open baffle speakers. Similar to F1, signifying the ultimate in performance and technology.
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Dare I say it?
OB-1 canoli
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GR Research Rendition
I like that.
"GR Research Revival"
I like that too.
I am also re-looking into the Venue name. It didn't translate well as it is often looked on as the local of a legal meeting or court proceeding. However it has been most thought of as the local for a music performance as well. If that is more of the primary thought for most people when they hear the Venue name, then it might work well.
You guys would be surprised at how many names have a conflicting trademark on them that would keep them from being used on this product. That is what shoot down "Cobra" and one of my favorites "Virtuoso".
I have to see if two others clear for use and then I will put together a short list of favorite and see what you guys think.
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Rendition has an edgier feel to me but did like it.
Revival feels appropriate too because it seems uplifting and fresh.
Venue reminds me of all those concerts that I went to in my youth. It also says open and live to me.
These are the emotional responses I have to those names. Now what makes me drool is knowing that this speaker is keeping Danny so engaged and having fun.
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Now what makes me drool is knowing that this speaker is keeping Danny so engaged and having fun.
I agree, I am VERY interested in this speaker, whatever the name!
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I quite like the Exemplar and its meanings :thumb: though iirc there are some horn speakers of that name, possibly from a Seattle company. :x
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...so we're all good with GR Research BoOBS (http://www.nevada.edu/~baldob/boobs.gif) then? :thumb:
'Bodacious (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bodacious) Open Baffle Speaker'
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How about GR Research Beatific
Exaltedly happy; blissful
Blessing or making exceedingly happy . .
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Hey Danny
Are you anywhere close to a shortlist? :wink:
Cheers
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I have a short list and will post it shortly. I am waiting for a couple more trademark searches. Some that are questionable are being looked into more closely to see if there would be a perception of a conflict.
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Danny
I'm sure this speaker... name withstanding will receive high accolades from it's users :thumb:
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Yea, the locals that have heard them have been floored. I am still eating them up myself. They are just a blast.
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one last hat to throw in the ring.
KAOBS (KICK ASS OPEN BAFFLE SPEAKER)
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I am sure this was posted already, but I don't have time to check the thread.
GR Concert Series
or
GR Nuance
GR Amadaus don't know how spell that.
GR RedLine
GR Impact
GR Session
GR Live Series
GR Emotion
Rocket_Ronny
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How about GR Ballistic Series?
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GR Research Extend
"Breaking the boundaries of the typical loudspeaker is the new GR Research Extend Loudspeaker System."
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GR Stage
GR Live
GR Event
GR Live Stage
Gr Live Event
Yes, that's it:
The GR Live Event or GR LE-1
Rocket_Ronny
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How about the... Apocalypse: a prophetic revelation concerning good (clarity) triumphing over evil (distortion).
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Gestalt: a configuration or pattern of elements so unified as a whole that it cannot be described merely as a sum of its parts
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GR-OBeys?
pronounced like obey...
or maybe can be put together to make "Grobies" :)
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Here is the final artwork - please feel free to check out my other work on my website in my sig should you need some high end 3d artwork of your own ;-)
small version:
(http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/578/thevenuespb5.jpg)
big version:
(http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/241/thevenuegx3.th.jpg) (http://img366.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thevenuegx3.jpg)
The lower link goes to an automatically resizing image if you click on it you should get the full sized image which is nearly native res for a 30inch monitor, in case someone fancies a wallpaper..
this guy is really good btw. good job hiring him danny! (i assume youre paying him for these since i sure as hell wouldnt be doing such kick A$$ renders for free :lol: )
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Danny,
You have had a few good suggestions and many.... well different ones.
My contribution would be:
Innovator - as in out of the box thinking.
James
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Enlil
Aspire
AITHER
God of air
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I am sure I saw this one already, but in case it has not been mentioned.
GR Session
Rocket_Ronny
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iSpeak :green:
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iWork
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iSing
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Hey Wind Chaser,
I think you have been hanging out/sleeping with your iPod and iPhone a little too much lately. :lol: :lol:
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IThinkSo
Rocket_Ronny
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Zeus, Catequil, Brontes, Raiden , Kaminari - all of these refer to the god of thunder in different mythologies...
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How about... "GR Research - The Statement".
It's pure, it's simple, it's straight to the point, and true to the music.
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The Statement
I like that, but may have to save it for the big one. :D
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GR Research Avante. It means "forward" in spanish/portugese and the speakers do look like they'll do just that :)
Got the name from Audi's wagon cars, but those have the "Avant" moniker.
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Okay, four names made the cut. Go to this new thread and vote on your favorite.
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=63020