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Re: Bryston Loudspeakers
« Reply #960 on: 11 Feb 2013, 05:30 pm »
Speaking User Interface design, if it's indicating presence of power it should be located near the power button not the volume one?

Why would it matter?

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« Reply #961 on: 11 Feb 2013, 05:36 pm »
It becomes obvious what the LED is indicating.

Otherwise you may want to silkscreen "Power" under it, as not to be confused with "Clipping", "Signal in nominal range" or some other indication related to Volume (not power).

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« Reply #962 on: 11 Feb 2013, 07:49 pm »
Hi Folks,

Some pics of the 600 watt amp module in the Model T Subwoofer







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« Reply #963 on: 13 Feb 2013, 07:44 pm »
Hi Folks,

Just got this today - excerpt from a full review coming on the Bryston mini t loudspeaker:


MEMO: To All Bryston Customers
SUBJECT: Bryston Mini t Speakers – Full Review Coming


February 13, 2013

Shortly after I had finished the big Model T review, the Mini T’s arrived. They are about one-half the size of the big Ts and are designed for placement on stands. Whenever I think of relatively low priced loudspeakers, many well-known mass market brands come to mind — most of which hold no interest for me. Many produce good speakers that work well with a wide range of equipment, but only few qualify to play back and do justice to the music, This is where the Mini T’s come in — and at $2550 a pair (plus stands) represent highly affordable quality by today's standards.

The Minis boast remarkable accuracy, overall balance and musicality, sonic elements generally found in more complex loudspeaker designs costing more than double. The technical information is in the specifications, but a few details deserve note: The Mini T’s do a better job of providing solid bass than any other so-called bookshelf speakers I have encountered at their price range. The Minis do a better job of providing deep bass than any other speaker I've encountered close to their price. They can produce or reproduce a true 35Hz at low to moderate volumes with excellent control whereas most speakers in this price range either give up well above 40Hz or wind up with serious boominess,

The crossover is extremely smooth across the band. Many loudspeakers in the higher price claim advanced technology and components, but still reveal minor problems, The Minis however, rival much more expensive designs in its seamlessness and integration.

The Minis' radiation pattern is extremely well chosen. Imaging is excellent over a relatively wide listening area, but room interaction remains limited. There are no major shifts in imaging and sound-stage as frequencies rise — a problem with virtually all loudspeaker design, but most noticeable in relatively inexpensive models. Power handling is simply "great". This is not a rock speaker in the sense that one can drive the eardrums into the scull. Nor can one push bass output to the level of a loudspeaker twice its size. For this, one needs the larger Model T. Nevertheless,  the Minis will handle orchestral fortissimos, energetic big band jazz and rock; and they will easily do the blues and small jazz ensembles — and they do all of that very well indeed.

Full review to follow in the next week or so.

Ernie Fisher
Inner Ear Magazine




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Re: Bryston Loudspeakers - THD+Noise measurements
« Reply #964 on: 17 Feb 2013, 08:20 am »
James, audiocircle members -
would you be so kind and provide little bit of clarity on THD+Noise measurements of the Model T speakers posted earlier ?

http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=97007.msg1130499#msg1130499

From what I understand those 2 charts show energy level of THD+Noise of the speakers relative to the output power. 2 test cases - 90db and 95db while THD+Noise hovers around 60db. Which would indicate 2 things - distortion of the speakers is not power dependant and is very linear (i.e. THD+Noise) remains the at same level though power level increased from 90db to 95db. however, delta between the two is only about 30-35db which would indicate distortion in the range of several 1.7% or 3% respectively which seems to be way too much ...

Have seen simmilar measurements of other speakers (i.e. Axiom M80 @ http://www.soundstagemagazine.com/measurements/axiom_m80v2/) but their measurements were done at 2m distance so it would not be comparing apples and apples,  but most of the speakers exhibit delta of more then 50db through out the 50hz-10khz range.

Thanks in advance for your explanation !!!

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Re: Bryston Loudspeakers - THD+Noise measurements
« Reply #965 on: 17 Feb 2013, 12:33 pm »
James, audiocircle members -
would you be so kind and provide little bit of clarity on THD+Noise measurements of the Model T speakers posted earlier ?

http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=97007.msg1130499#msg1130499

From what I understand those 2 charts show energy level of THD+Noise of the speakers relative to the output power. 2 test cases - 90db and 95db while THD+Noise hovers around 60db. Which would indicate 2 things - distortion of the speakers is not power dependant and is very linear (i.e. THD+Noise) remains the at same level though power level increased from 90db to 95db. however, delta between the two is only about 30-35db which would indicate distortion in the range of several 1.7% or 3% respectively which seems to be way too much ...

Have seen simmilar measurements of other speakers (i.e. Axiom M80 @ http://www.soundstagemagazine.com/measurements/axiom_m80v2/) but their measurements were done at 2m distance so it would not be comparing apples and apples,  but most of the speakers exhibit delta of more then 50db through out the 50hz-10khz range.

Thanks in advance for your explanation !!!

Gaha


Hi Gaha

OK - will ask engineering for you.

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Re: Bryston Loudspeakers
« Reply #966 on: 17 Feb 2013, 05:31 pm »
Hi

I checked with engineering and they tell me those graphs were very early in the development so we will post more up to date graphs next week.

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Re: Bryston Loudspeakers
« Reply #967 on: 17 Feb 2013, 11:31 pm »
James,
thanks for your prompt/weekend response!!! Really appreciate attention !
BR,
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Re: Bryston Loudspeakers
« Reply #968 on: 18 Feb 2013, 05:48 pm »
I have a 10 year old 14 BST. Will this power the model Ts satisfactorily?

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« Reply #969 on: 18 Feb 2013, 06:36 pm »
I have a 10 year old 14 BST. Will this power the model Ts satisfactorily?

Absolutely - I would say a 4B and above is ample power for the Model T.

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« Reply #970 on: 18 Feb 2013, 09:03 pm »
Hi folks!
Just noticed Axiom has released their new flagship speakers LFR1100 which seem pretty similar to Model T, rear firing drivers aside.
http://www.axiomaudio.com/omnidirectional-speaker

It would be interesting to read some comparison between the two beasts.

T

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« Reply #971 on: 18 Feb 2013, 09:22 pm »
It would be interesting to read some comparison between the two beasts.

Comparing the 108 lb. Bryston Model T with 3 x 8" woofers and the 66 lb. Axiom LFR 1100 with 3 x 6.5" woofers, I would expect the Bryston to be "beastier".

The LFR 1100 has passive crossovers, as the two sets of speaker posts are for the front and rear drivers.  I didn't see any details on the included external DSP processor, but I would assume there would be some provision for attenuation of the rear drivers to dial in the preferred effect?

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« Reply #972 on: 18 Feb 2013, 10:19 pm »
Hi folks!
Just noticed Axiom has released their new flagship speakers LFR1100 which seem pretty similar to Model T, rear firing drivers aside.
http://www.axiomaudio.com/omnidirectional-speaker

It would be interesting to read some comparison between the two beasts.

T

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Totally different - - Axiom is a bi-pole using 4 channels of amplification and a DSP electronic crossover to control front and rear drivers and passive internal crossover.

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Re: Bryston Loudspeakers
« Reply #973 on: 19 Feb 2013, 01:55 am »
It becomes obvious what the LED is indicating.

Otherwise you may want to silkscreen "Power" under it, as not to be confused with "Clipping", "Signal in nominal range" or some other indication related to Volume (not power).

Give it a rest.

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Re: Bryston Loudspeakers
« Reply #974 on: 19 Feb 2013, 02:33 am »
I may have missed a detail in my quick review of this thread , but have the Bryston  Mini T started shipping to dealers in Ontario - looking for an audition and a purchase . Price point for spec and early reviews are very positive . The medium size units  ,  pricing around  the 4000.00 dollar mark - as per James , what is the scheduled release date on those units ?

Thanks so much !  Great forum !

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« Reply #975 on: 19 Feb 2013, 04:06 am »
I may have missed a detail in my quick review of this thread , but have the Bryston  Mini T started shipping to dealers in Ontario - looking for an audition and a purchase . Price point for spec and early reviews are very positive . The medium size units  ,  pricing around  the 4000.00 dollar mark - as per James , what is the scheduled release date on those units ?

Thanks so much !  Great forum !

Hi KingstonMoon

Yes the mini t is available now - they are $2550 a pair list - where are you located??

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Re: Bryston Loudspeakers
« Reply #976 on: 19 Feb 2013, 11:12 pm »
Hi KingstonMoon

Yes the mini t is available now - they are $2550 a pair list - where are you located??

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Hi James !

Here in Kingston !   Looking at the black finish  . Excited to give these a try !

Shawn

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« Reply #977 on: 19 Feb 2013, 11:31 pm »
Hi James !

Here in Kingston !   Looking at the black finish  . Excited to give these a try !

Shawn

OK great - contact Mark at Whitby Audio 905 668 0787

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« Reply #978 on: 19 Feb 2013, 11:36 pm »
OK great - contact Mark at Whitby Audio 905 668 0787

James

Excellent !  Mark it is , Whitby Audio !  This is the start of another complete kit of hifi . A SimAudio Moon/ PMC  setup at present and is a keeper  but a dedicated Bryston top to bottom commences real soon . Got to give the Mini T a serious look and listen - love what i see so far ! Fall - winter 2013-2014 is a dive into the gear !
Is the local kingston fella , Larry , still a dealer on the Bryston ?

Thanks James ! 

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« Reply #979 on: 19 Feb 2013, 11:40 pm »
Excellent !  Mark it is , Whitby Audio !  This is the start of another complete kit of hifi . A SimAudio Moon/ PMC  setup at present and is a keeper  but a dedicated Bryston top to bottom commences real soon . Got to give the Mini T a serious look and listen - love what i see so far ! Fall - winter 2013-2014 is a dive into the gear !
Is the local kingston fella , Larry , still a dealer on the Bryston ?

Thanks James !

Hi

No Larry is not a dealer for the speakers.

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