[PRELUDE]

Ernie Fisher – INNER EAR REPORT

My listening test so far — that is with 7B SST Squared, Aesthetix and Allnic amplifiers — has shown to me that the Model Ts are one of the very rare designs that, because of it's own high rating of neutrality, lets one hear all backup components.

In addition, they sound better than some of the mega-buck brands we all know.

Price/performance is way out of whack — something like 20/100%.

Be proud Bryston . . .

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[James Tanner]

Hi Folks,

Shot of the Bryston Model T Signature External Passive Crossover internals - notice custom Bryston capacitors.





james

[James Tanner]

My Rosewood Model T's - almost ready!!!




james

[KeithA]

My Rosewood Model T's - almost ready!!!




james

That's a lot of speaker 

Id love to hear a set....not going to happen my neck of the woods. I'm looking at getting a new set speakers next Spring, maybe.

Keith

[Jamesie]

My Rosewood Model T's - almost ready!!!




james

James, I have been watching this thread for a while but had to sign up just so I could say how stunning these are!!! Absolutely beautiful.

I hope there will be a pair coming to New Zealand, as I am very interested in these.

I will get hold of the distributor in NZ early next year to see what they can arrange.

Cheers and keep up the great work,

Paul

[James Tanner]

James, I have been watching this thread for a while but had to sign up just so I could say how stunning these are!!! Absolutely beautiful.

I hope there will be a pair coming to New Zealand, as I am very interested in these.

I will get hold of the distributor in NZ early next year to see what they can arrange.

Cheers and keep up the great work,

Paul

Hi Paul

Yes I believe our Australian Distributor is planning on bringing in the speakers soon.  We are currently sold out but should have more available come Feb.

james

[sfraser]

My Rosewood Model T's - almost ready!!!




james

I see your picking out your own Xmas presents.eh? ......Be-atch!!! ; )

They look great, enjoy them over the holiday.


Scott

[95Dyna]

Ernie Fisher – INNER EAR REPORT

My listening test so far — that is with 7B SST Squared, Aesthetix and Allnic amplifiers — has shown to me that the Model Ts are one of the very rare designs that, because of it's own high rating of neutrality, lets one hear all backup components.

In addition, they sound better than some of the mega-buck brands we all know.

Price/performance is way out of whack — something like 20/100%.

Be proud Bryston . . .

Been thinking about new speaks to replace my 22 year old Infinity 9 Kappas since buying my 7B SST2's a couple years ago and these sound like an ideal choice to retain the big dynamic sound of the Kappas while improving upon their balance and slightly congested midrange.
 
In my situation it looks like the external active alternative is a stretch as I would have to spend at least another $10 or $12K to provide six Bryston quality channels of amplification.  The Inner Ear snippet above is encouraging but it doesn't say whether he's using the passive external or internal crossover with the 7's.  Anyway, what I'm in need of at this point is a comparative analysis of what improvements would be experienced using the external passive over the internal passive as well as what I am missing by not selling the 7's and buying a pair of 6's and going the active route.

James, in addition to the great job you have done with these you have created the need for a matrix to figure out the optimal permutation of amplification, cabling and crossover in a given situation.  Perhaps you could develop a variation of the JL Audio Sound Analyzer Kit iPhone app and expand upon its amp calculator function  .

[James Tanner]

Been thinking about new speaks to replace my 22 year old Infinity 9 Kappas since buying my 7B SST2's a couple years ago and these sound like an ideal choice to retain the big dynamic sound of the Kappas while improving upon their balance and slightly congested midrange.
 
In my situation it looks like the external active alternative is a stretch as I would have to spend at least another $10 or $12K to provide six Bryston quality channels of amplification.  The Inner Ear snippet above is encouraging but it doesn't say whether he's using the passive external or internal crossover with the 7's.  Anyway, what I'm in need of at this point is a comparative analysis of what improvements would be experienced using the external passive over the internal passive as well as what I am missing by not selling the 7's and buying a pair of 6's and going the active route.

James, in addition to the great job you have done with these you have created the need for a matrix to figure out the optimal permutation of amplification, cabling and crossover in a given situation.  Perhaps you could develop a variation of the JL Audio Sound Analyzer Kit iPhone app and expand upon its amp calculator function  .

Hi

The external crossover has a few improvements over the internal.  The external uses air core inductors as well as high tolerance Bryston Capacitors. 

If you see yourself moving towards an all Active system in the future then I would recommend purchasing the Model T SIGNATURE version (which includes the external crossover).  That way you simply replace the outboard passive crossover that goes between your power amp and speaker with the Active Crossover that goes between your Preamp and Amps.

I will list the current Bryston amp options as well in a few minutes.

james

[James Tanner]

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MODEL T AMPLIFIERS   

Matching Bryston Amplifiers For Active Model T  Loudspeakers      
            
MODEL                                               PAIRS
            
9B SST-3-Channel                           9B SST-3-Channel x TWO
            
6B SST2                                           6B SST2 x TWO         
            
7B SST-2 /3B SST2                         7B SST2 x TWO  with  3B SST2  x TWO         
            
7B SST-2 /4B SST2                         7B SST2 x TWO  with  4B SST2  x TWO

[werd]

MODEL T AMPLIFIERS   

Matching Bryston Amplifiers For Active Model T  Loudspeakers      
            
MODEL                                               PAIRS
            
9B SST-3-Channel                           9B SST-3-Channel x TWO
            
6B SST2                                           6B SST2 x TWO         
            
7B SST-2 /3B SST2                         7B SST2 x TWO  with  3B SST2  x TWO         
            
7B SST-2 /4B SST2                         7B SST2 x TWO  with  4B SST2  x TWO

What does holding $5 bucks and having a big grin using a 14B get ya in your new speaks?

[James Tanner]

What does holding $5 bucks and having a big grin using a 14B get ya in your new speaks?

Sorry Lorne - I am at a loss as to what this sentence means   

james

[werd]

Anything under the Xmas tree from James Tanner this year?   

[James Tanner]

Anything under the Xmas tree from James Tanner this year?   

Yes the Rosewoods are going to Vegas for the show in January and then I plan to hi-jack them for home.

james

[Don_S]

James,

Stop playing with my emotions.  In reply 744 you said the Model-Ts would not be at CES or T.H.E. Show.  Now you say they will be.  In reply 745 I specifically asked you "What other things are you "not intending" to do?".   

Details please:
location?
active or static display?
which crossovers?

Yes the Rosewoods are going to Vegas for the show in January and then I plan to hi-jack them for home.

james

[James Tanner]

James,

Stop playing with my emotions.  In reply 744 you said the Model-Ts would not be at CES or T.H.E. Show.  Now you say they will be.  In reply 745 I specifically asked you "What other things are you "not intending" to do?".   

Details please:
location?
active or static display?
which crossovers?

We are sharing with Thiel so they will just be on static display.

james

[PRELUDE]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

MODEL T AMPLIFIERS   

Matching Bryston Amplifiers For Active Model T  Loudspeakers      
            
MODEL                                               PAIRS
            
9B SST-3-Channel                           9B SST-3-Channel x TWO
            
6B SST2                                           6B SST2 x TWO         
            
7B SST-2 /3B SST2                         7B SST2 x TWO  with  3B SST2  x TWO         
            
7B SST-2 /4B SST2                         7B SST2 x TWO  with  4B SST2  x TWO

Hi James,
Just my thought beside your list which I always recommended the same to so many people.
If we look at the entry level for any of this folks who would like to go active in the future but keep the cost low and use less space, then how about a set up with 4BSST2 and a 9BSST2@4channel.It would encourage more people for few reasons and the benefit of having more power to drive the woofers.2x9BSS2@3-channel would take a same space as 4BSST2 and one 9BSST2@4-channel and would cost same also but would be better to have more power for woofers+more people have the 4b already and it would make it easier to switch to active by adding a9BSST2 instead of changing the whole setup.

[James Tanner]

Hi James,
Just my thought beside your list which I always recommended the same to so many people.
If we look at the entry level for any of this folks who would like to go active in the future but keep the cost low and use less space, then how about a set up with 4BSST2 and a 9BSST2@4channel.It would encourage more people for few reasons and the benefit of having more power to drive the woofers.2x9BSS2@3-channel would take a same space as 4BSST2 and one 9BSST2@4-channel and would cost same also but would be better to have more power for woofers+more people have the 4b already and it would make it easier to switch to active by adding a9BSST2 instead of changing the whole setup.

Good point

james

[James Tanner]

Audio Perspective

Some thoughts here :

As a long time audio reviewer when it comes to describing one's impressions within a review-type essay, I think it is easier to exercise criticism than to explain excellence.

A reviewers obligation is to investigate and describe in detail the performance, character, merit, shortcomings and sonic properties of the component under review.  But when being an audio critic turns into listening for pleasure, the critic is in trouble and must re-evaluate his/her position and his duty.

I found myself in this position dozens of time, but never as blatantly painful as in the past few months — the time I spent listening to the Model T's (review pending)

Ernie Fisher

[95Dyna]

Hi James,
Just my thought beside your list which I always recommended the same to so many people.
If we look at the entry level for any of this folks who would like to go active in the future but keep the cost low and use less space, then how about a set up with 4BSST2 and a 9BSST2@4channel.It would encourage more people for few reasons and the benefit of having more power to drive the woofers.2x9BSS2@3-channel would take a same space as 4BSST2 and one 9BSST2@4-channel and would cost same also but would be better to have more power for woofers+more people have the 4b already and it would make it easier to switch to active by adding a9BSST2 instead of changing the whole setup.

On that note what about a pair of 7's on the woofers and a 4 channel 9 for the mid and high for those of us who now have a pair of 7's.  Would that be too much diparity in power or would 140 per side be fine for the mids and highs?  James, you sly dog, you gotta be lovin' this.  Everyone trying to figure out how many more Bryston amps to buy.  Couldn't happen to a nicer guy  .