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Industry Circles => LampizatOr => Topic started by: wisnon on 1 Aug 2015, 05:33 pm
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Posted by a pal in Holland:
Well Wisnon, my holiday is nearing its end. So after the visit of Lukasz and after I dropped him off at Schiphol airport I started listening very intensively to all kind of dsd files (and with some you are quite familiar :-)) from eg Channel Classics, Pentatone, Mercury, RCA (Living Stereo), Highdeftransfertape, etc. I already described earlier on this thread that the Tidal LA speakers are phenomenal. However, the dedicated server Lukasz built for me is extraordinary as well and is driving the Lampi Golden Gate to levels I had not experienced before. Good dsd on the Tidal LA's is way better than I had ever antipated. As a matter of fact, the system sounds so awfully good that for the first time in my life I am really sad that from next Monday onwards working life starts again.
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Posted by a pal in Holland:
Well Wisnon, my holiday is nearing its end. So after the visit of Lukasz and after I dropped him off at Schiphol airport I started listening very intensively to all kinds of dsd files (and with some you are quite familiar
And then what... :|
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He is clearly enjoying the music too much to post the rest...
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He is clearly enjoying the music too much to post the rest...
I was thinking maybe he fell over in ecstasy like one of those fainting goats do when they're scared...
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=125582)
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Technical difficulty. Dunno why.
However, if I had a pair of LAssolutas, I would be in extasy too. LoL
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I am very happy with my LPS Mac Mini based system. Had someone over to hear the Big 7 this afternoon. He is going to let me know (which translates to he wanted to hear it, but doesn't have the cash). He was blown away and loved it compared to my Hugo. I had not done an A/B with the MacMini with LPS and the Hugo vs. the same with the Big 7. I agreed with him. The Hugo had a very technical air to it compared to the Big 7. I imagine Lukasz computer kicks it up a few notches, but it costs about 6-7x what the MacMini and LPS cost me...
Shanw
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Shawn, did you finally do the head to head with the Hugo?
I did it with AL last Summer with his older generation B7 (before he recently upgraded it to latest specs) with his maxxed out CAPs server and high end headphones, Senn HD800, Stax Electrostitics, Hifiman, etc with Woo WA amps and Senn SS amps.
It was a massacre. The Hugo, who I was rooting for before (as I own a Chord Qute EX), did not stand a chance…especially on DSD, but also on PCM.
Of course saying so online did NOT make us popular.
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I had before, and came to the same conclusion. With the LPS, it was worse. Hugo sounded like a hollow digital mess compared to the Big7.
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Whats the differential in price between the Chord Hugo and the LamizatOr B7?
Scotty
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I don't want to make myself unpopular, and I must emphasise I have NOT heard the Hugo, but isn't comparing the Hugo with a Big7 a bit like comparing a Ford with a BMW. Each might be very good at their price range but.....
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Very true Scotty and Phil,
BUT the HUGO people were online saying its was the best Dac at ANY price. You must recall the buzz on line last year, similar to the current Schiit Yggsdrasil hype. There was NO limit to the hyperbole.
That is when we intervened to restore sanity. To be frank, an L4 with DSD will beat a Hugo, as did the PSA DirectStream Dac.
To my ears, the hype was way overblown and I am not sure the Hugo beats a Qute EX with PLSU.
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That is when we intervened to restore sanity.
Thank you for saving us, Norman.
To be frank, a L$ with DSD will beat a Hugo, as did the PSA DirectStream Dac.
Um, they should, they are multiple times the cost of a Hugo.
I have new amps and preamp in the system now, and would love to try a Lampi again someday (hoping this time no fireworks).
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Thank you for saving us, Norman.
Um, they should, they are multiple times the cost of a Hugo.
I have new amps and preamp in the system now, and would love to try a Lampi again someday (hoping this time no fireworks).
LoL
I was not speaking about you Ted, but you must recall the unrestrained hyperbole. Same going on for the Yggy now.
Talk to ther Lampi NA guys and see if they have demo units. I know there is a huge backlog of GG orders and I also know they have a long break-in period vs other Lampis. Perhaps the LampiNA guys have B7s or Lite7s??? Not sure why the fireworks then, as I have never seen another report online with the same issues. I guess it must have been very system specific.
BTW, a used L4 DSD only can run as low as $2,200 and a L4 with DSD/PCM can be had for as low as $3,200 online. Give me one of those over a Hugo for a home system anyway.
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While I agree the hype of the Hugo was off the charts, it seems equally ridiculous to compare a portable player with a full size component. In terms of power supply refinement alone a full size DAC (should at least) would have a huge advantage.
What does a used Hugo go for? Just sayin'... I think keeping comparisons more apples to apples rather than apples to sesame seeds.
Now it remains to be seen what the new Chord DAC (top of the line, the real thing, not a qute or anything) will be able to do.
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But, the hype was way off the charts with many people dumping all over the Mietner based on the Hugo. I never agreed with those comments and the Meitner (no matter how much I respect you Ted) and the Mietner was in the $7k price range if I recall. Also, battery power is often held out as the top of the food chain in in a lot of circles. So, I hear the arguments. I have owned all three of these DACs, and well, I am getting a Golden Gate now...
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Battery power is WAY over rated. Sure, it can beat poorly implemented AC designs, but not good ones.
One big advabtage of Lampi DACs is the attention paid to power supply implementation, with input chokes, etc...
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I agree. Lukasz is really good at implementing power. I find Tom Meyers designs to be really well done and smart as well. If I had room for the 211 Amps, I would probably buy them.
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But, the hype was way off the charts with many people dumping all over the Mietner based on the Hugo. I never agreed with those comments and the Meitner (no matter how much I respect you Ted) and the Mietner was in the $7k price range if I recall. Also, battery power is often held out as the top of the food chain in in a lot of circles. So, I hear the arguments. I have owned all three of these DACs, and well, I am getting a Golden Gate now...
Shawn, I loved my Meitner. It is still my favorite DAC for some DSD playback (esp piano). It just didn't do redbook like others, including the Hugo.
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While I agree the hype of the Hugo was off the charts, it seems equally ridiculous to compare a portable player with a full size component. In terms of power supply refinement alone a full size DAC (should at least) would have a huge advantage.
What does a used Hugo go for? Just sayin'... I think keeping comparisons more apples to apples rather than apples to sesame seeds.
Now it remains to be seen what the new Chord DAC (top of the line, the real thing, not a qute or anything) will be able to do.
Barrows, this is EXACTLY my point a year ago! However, it was dfifficult to make it against the maddening cries.
I do expect that the upcoming DAVE should be a perfomance champ though.
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Battery power is WAY over rated. Sure, it can beat poorly implemented AC designs, but not good ones.
One big advabtage of Lampi DACs is the attention paid to power supply implementation, with input chokes, etc...
I agree about battery power too.
Lukasz has a background in high voltage physics. I expect that this helped him to appreciate power quality? I know his power designs are "sixty Sigma", ie waaay overspecified.
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I had Hugo connected directly to EA MicroOnes for Dac/preamp/amp and although it distorted at high medium to high volume the Hugo sounded very good. I also heard the Big 7 at the Newport Beach show last year hooked up to 30,000.00 worth of stuff and it sounded very good as well.
Hugo+ EA MicroOnes definatlly does hold its own even against the big 7 and $30,000.00 worth of gear like the big 7 was hooked up too.
Hugo sounds delicate, airy and spacious with nice real bass and is capable of delivering emotions. I'm not sure if other stuff like seperatel prepamps and amps were hooked up along with it, it might add or take away. I preferred Hugo on its own without any other gear added in the chain to my speakers.
To sum it up, in my experience Hugo is like watching a good bluray movie at home with calibrated tv vs. Big 7 was going to a imax theatre. Don't know if it makes sense, but big 7 defiantly gave me that headchange and you are there feeling more so than Hugo. It does give your brain and ears a workout more so than Hugo.
Different sound signature. Both very musical, but ofcourse one is solid state and the other is tube so both have their usual characteristics. If I were to choose one, I'd go with big 7.
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SofS.
ALRainbow owns the Hugo, 2 Big7s (1 a headDac) an MSB Platinum, a DirectStream, a GD-AudioMaster 7 , an iFi iDSD and a Mytek. We spent a day listening to the Hugo, B7, MSB and DS and it was not close for either of us. Note we used high end headphones.
AL has had them for a year now and uses the Hugo and iDSD daily on the train into Manhatten. He has not changed his mind.
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His collection, combined with his tubes, probably costs more than my apartment.
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For whatever its worth...when I was looking in to getting a Lampi dac I contacted a forum member here who had just received a Lampi Amber and whose previous best dac was a Hugo. When asked which dac was better in his system he said he preferred the Amber. A little more apples to apples in regards to price but note that the Amber is now Lampi's entry level dac.
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Norman, you've told that maybe a hundred times! Al says the Hugo is thin and emotionless. Al's Hugo setup does not drive his cans, if that's the case (hugo is hardly thin, many say the opposite; but it has a volume control so if impedance isn't right in setup it's not a correct setup). Dunno what else to say. And yes, of course the Big 7 sounds better!!!!!!! So does the $50k MSB Platinum. I would hope so!
Regardless, opinions like SofS's are legit; to consistently respond to Hugo positive feedback with saying you and Al have heard them one day, and therefore end of story is only relevant to you (and Al). Sorry, but every one gets a vote. I could tout Dr Howie (Priaptor) and his feedback that the Hugo holds its own against his MSB Diamond stack; not equal but not far off. He is a Hugo convert. Sold his Vega for it.
What is my point? Why the Hugo bashing? It's not a race. Why the "it was not even close" when anyone else says good things about it? To paraphrase the Bard: Why doth he protest too much? Enjoy the Lampi(s) and let others enjoy their dacs. (Off my soapbox).
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I agree with Ted on this. I also don't agree with Al's tube likes. We all have different tastes. Regardless, my statement was more to discuss computer and LPS implementation and what that could do for the Big 7, not that the Hugo was trash. I use my Hugo everyday.
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AL uses his Hugo daily too and he used it with amp and without.
My point to SoS is that its blasphemy to say they sound close when I heard them for myself. Hell, I was the one who suggest to AL to get the Hugo and I own a Qute EX. I thought the whole FPGA tech thingy would have given the Hugo a fighting chance. I was surprised at the blowout (recall the term CHASM?). it was not even close. A deaf guy could tell the difference. Lo
I protest to counter the propaganda. Let me repeat ...its not close. A person may want it one way, but its the other.
Final point, for the price and portability, I do agree that the Hugo is good value for money. i never said otherwise, but the whole gamechanger thing is ludicrous to me.
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I agree with Ted on this. I also don't agree with Al's tube likes. We all have different tastes. Regardless, my statement was more to discuss computer and LPS implementation and what that could do for the Big 7, not that the Hugo was trash. I use my Hugo everyday.
I never said the Hugo was trash. Its a very decent Dac. I suspect that the Dave will be a whole 'nother category of Dac and COULD give that level of performance that corresponds to the Hugo hype.
Yes, tastes do differ, but what is being discussed is not a matter of taste really.
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For whatever its worth...when I was looking in to getting a Lampi dac I contacted a forum member here who had just received a Lampi Amber and whose previous best dac was a Hugo. When asked which dac was better in his system he said he preferred the Amber. A little more apples to apples in regards to price but note that the Amber is now Lampi's entry level dac.
If that is Randy, he returned his Amber (and Fred was very gracious, and is looking to send Randy another Lampi someday) and is using my Hugo currently. :)
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If that is Randy, he returned his Amber (and Fred was very gracious, and is looking to send Randy another Lampi someday) and is using my Hugo currently. :)
Yep, that's who I was referring to. I sent him a message a few days ago to see how it's going but haven't heard back yet. Last we talked he thought it was an amp issue he was having. But I remember him saying he liked the sound of the Amber in reference to the Hugo.
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Um, no! He did NOT like the sound of the Amber (and it may well have been a bad Amber) so he returned it. Just setting this anti-Hugo record straight. It's one thing to have an opinion; it's another to misinform (not saying it's on purpose, T2T, but it ain't the facts). And it may seem like a nit, but Randy's opinion was put up here as a prime example of "apples to apples" preference, and it is not at all.
Randy is a dear friend and will be at the house on Thursday (where he will hear the Chord 2Qute, the Fore Audio DAISy1, the exaSound e12, among others). He hasn't heard my Aerial 20Ts yet. And I am helping him build a new CAPS server.
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Um, no! He did NOT like the sound of the Amber (and it may well have been a bad Amber) so he returned it. Just setting this anti-Hugo record straight. It's one thing to have an opinion; it's another to misinform (not saying it's on purpose, T2T, but it ain't the facts). And it may seem like a nit, but Randy's opinion was put up here as a prime example of "apples to apples" preference, and it is not at all.
I just remember what he told me, that's all.
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As this thread is completely off the rails, maybe we should close it.
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SofS.
ALRainbow owns the Hugo, 2 Big7s (1 a headDac) an MSB Platinum, a DirectStream, a GD-AudioMaster 7 , an iFi iDSD and a Mytek. We spent a day listening to the Hugo, B7, MSB and DS and it was not close for either of us. Note we used high end headphones.
AL has had them for a year now and uses the Hugo and iDSD daily on the train into Manhatten. He has not changed his mind.
Did you listen to Hugo alone or with added amp and preamp? For my system, Hugo sounded better without the Job 225 so I ended up selling that amp and using Hugo alone out to speakers.
Directstream does not sound better than Hugo imo. I also heard that at the Newport Beach show and concluded Hugo sounded more analog and real.
If you visit the PS Audio website, there are many complaints after they bought the DS. If you visit the Hugo thread at Headfi, there are barely any complaints... most are satisfied.
Just to give an example what Hugo did for me, its a DAC/preamp/amp that I can just listen to music without thinking about turning it off and going to do something else. I was able to listen to other music without repeating only favorite tracks. Its audiophille dac. People should try out either of these dacs (Big 7) I think it's worth hard earned money.
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SoS,
We listened many ways and as I said, AL continues to own all these Dacs a year later and has not changed his mind. I am sure he is reading this thread in amusement.
Also, unlike most people...he did not make the comparisons at shows, nor did he get in each one at different time with little or no overlap...HE HAS OWNED THEN ALL for over a year and has been able to compare them all against each other directly and over a loooong period of time. To me the Dstream edged the Hugo, but they were close. Keep in mind that AL has lost of DS firmware to roll, so is not like most who just use the latest official release.
I do appreciate that others can and do have a difference of opinion, so wont fight you between Hogo and DS, but there was a huge CHASM between those 2 and the Lampi/MSB which BOTH had the high end sound.
Again I say, that the HUGO and DS are fine products, but I have to stop the overreach in its tracks. Its was not close and I am not one to nitpick small nuances.
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I own both. That isn't the point. The point is moot. We all have different ears. I tried the PS Audio and agree that the Hugo is not as good. Meitner and Chord are really close in my opinion. There was a drop off after that in my systemm. For Dacs I have owned or had long term auditions, this is my order and it is solely related to me:
Big 7
Meitner MA-1
Chord Hugo
PS Audio
Eastern Electric Minimax
DIY Buffalo DAC
Schit bitfrost
Other DIY stuff
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Shawn,
Nothing against the Hugo. Its the gamechange hype and the fact that naive people may be led to belive that it can take on much bigger game....it simply cannot.
DAVE may, we wait to see. I keep an open mind.
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Yeah, cuz "chasm" is not hyperbole?? :) You heard the Hugo ONCE, Norman! ONCE! In someone else's system! You've never had it in your own system, for one.
It "simply cannot"?? Huh? Who made you Lord of this thing?? Your one instance with Hugo makes your comments...let me think...wait for it...an opinion! Not empirical dogma. Just sayin. And my almost 12 months with Hugo (and a myriad of other dacs) makes my comments simply an opinion too..
Naive people will read anything into anything (such as "it blows the other thing away" or "listen, take my word for it"). Intelligent people will figure out that opinions are rampant. We need to let these groups figure it out.
Demo these units, in your own system, for a period of time. Synergy is key, and often counter-intuitive on paper. That is my one strong piece of advice!
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Um, no! He did NOT like the sound of the Amber (and it may well have been a bad Amber) so he returned it. Just setting this anti-Hugo record straight. It's one thing to have an opinion; it's another to misinform (not saying it's on purpose, T2T, but it ain't the facts). And it may seem like a nit, but Randy's opinion was put up here as a prime example of "apples to apples" preference, and it is not at all.
Randy is a dear friend and will be at the house on Thursday (where he will hear the Chord 2Qute, the Fore Audio DAISy1, the exaSound e12, among others). He hasn't heard my Aerial 20Ts yet. And I am helping him build a new CAPS server.
I just remember what he told me, that's all.
Ted mentioned this thread to me... I have not been on AC for a bit and needed to reply...
I was in the market for a DAC.(still am). I had built a CAPS v.2 and was running an Exasound E20 MKII DAC and getting GREAT sound. I decided to try a modded Sony HAP-Z1ES which would take the place of my E20/CAPS. For me, (not others), this was a big mistake! I bought into the hype from early adopters and while others may love their Hap-Z1ES, it just did not float my boat. I ended up returning the Sony.
I then bought a used Aries along with a Synology 415+ running direct to the Aries to an Amber DAC that I purchased through Fred at Lampizator NA. I still was not happy with the sound. While it was some time since my E20/CAPS combo, this current setup was clearly not what I had in sound quality.
Tom is correct in that we had conversed and I mentioned that I thought the Amber was better than the Hugo. However, Ted is correct as well as the more the Amber broke in the more the sound was just not right. I couldn't put my finger on it but as the Amber broke in the sound got worse.
I then went back to the Hugo and it was just better. Keep in mind that the Amber uses the Sabre chip which none of the other Lampi's use. However, I do not contribute the bad sound to the Sabre as I have had other DACS with this chip that sounded very good. (Exasound E20 MKII)
Anyway, I had to send the Amber back to Fred who deserves KUDOS :thumb: for the way he handles his business. He emailed me to let me know that there was something definitely wrong with the Amber as none sounded like the one I received.
I ended up selling the Aries as well as I just did not like the GUI. I am building a custom PC music server and will be purchasing a new DAC shortly. It might be a 2Qute. It might be another Exasound DAC (which is a beast with DSD!!) Dunno yet.
I really can't comment on how the Hugo stacks up against any Lampi's. I will say that I disagree with those who constantly portray the Hugo as "thin sounding". It does PCM very well indeed. There apparently are many very happy 2Qute owners who wax poetically about how the 2Qute does PCM. The 2Qute is the same house sound as the Hugo in different clothing.
I am all for "different strokes for different folks". What I can't seem to fathom is how after one day, a person can post on different forums on how one DAC "massacred' another. He must have really really good ears. It usually takes me a couple of weeks of listening a couple of hours a day to make a determination on what I view as better sound for my ears.
Regards,
Randy
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Of course this Hugo vs Lampi stuff has absolutely nothing to do with the dedicated server that Lukasz built...
Randy
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As this thread is completely off the rails, maybe we should close it.
I tend to agree with this sentiment.
Lets get it on track or create a new thread please.
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Yeah, cuz "chasm" is not hyperbole?? :) You heard the Hugo ONCE, Norman! ONCE! In someone else's system! You've never had it in your own system, for one.
It "simply cannot"?? Huh? Who made you Lord of this thing?? Your one instance with Hugo makes your comments...let me think...wait for it...an opinion! Not empirical dogma. Just sayin. And my almost 12 months with Hugo (and a myriad of other dacs) makes my comments simply an opinion too..
Naive people will read anything into anything (such as "it blows the other thing away" or "listen, take my word for it"). Intelligent people will figure out that opinions are rampant. We need to let these groups figure it out.
Demo these units, in your own system, for a period of time. Synergy is key, and often counter-intuitive on paper. That is my one strong piece of advice!
Funny how synergy only affected the Hugo! LoL
Ted, I have demoed enough mega-buck dacs to know what is high end sound!
It was obvious.
BTW, none of us are Lord and Masters and You have not demoed the MSB plat and the Big7 yourself, so you really dont have a good idea of the comparison I am getting it for THIS group of components. …and Does AL strike you as the kinda guy who has ONE system when he has 7 Dacs, 6 amps (counting the Hugo and the HeadDac and the iDSD), 4 or more headphones? AFAIK, he also has 2 reference speakers in storage and some behemoth power amps to drive them. We went thru all the speakers and at least 3 amps in rotation for 7 hours…in a marathon session. This was not a casual meet up….its was (joyful) WORK.
Randy, you dont need "a long time" in your own system to determine massacre (a hyperbole by definition - CHASM is not, BTW)...by definition Massacre you hear immediately! That is the only way you can hear it. Nuances aand preferences are teased out over time as you say and that you do for similar operforming devices.
If someone weer to say that the Hugo sounds about the same as an Audioquest Dragonfly, what woul YOU say? LoL I have no qualms to say the hugo would massacre a Dragonfly and it SHOuld with that price difference. Ted and Barrows said the B7 and the MSB should be exxpected to blow away the Hugo with the price difference and BOM (and they do) so I dont understand the subsequent umbrage to my observation! If you heard them in the same system for even 5 minutes, I am 100% certain that you would come to the same conclusion. Night and day thing..
I do not pretend to be a reviewer and I dont do poetry, so for me to make such a bold statement you should understand that it was pellucidly clear.
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Obviously I agree that LampizatOr products are quite special or I wouldn't take time away from my family and law practice to promote/distribute them.
I simply believe the direction this thread is going is not productive as the server hasn't even been mentioned since the sixth post. :lol:
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Wait, this thread is about a server???? :D
Looked at the euro site and it looks like quite the piece! Is there anything Lukaz doesn't plan on building? Wonder if he ever thought of making his own cables, in particular a usb cable.
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Wait, this thread is about a server???? :D
Looked at the euro site and it looks like quite the piece! Is there anything Lukaz doesn't plan on building? Wonder if he ever thought of making his own cables, in particular a usb cable.
He did do powercords and cables before and they were very good, but not sure he had any special competitive advantage there.
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SoS,
We listened many ways and as I said, AL continues to own all these Dacs a year later and has not changed his mind. I am sure he is reading this thread in amusement.
Also, unlike most people...he did not make the comparisons at shows, nor did he get in each one at different time with little or no overlap...HE HAS OWNED THEN ALL for over a year and has been able to compare them all against each other directly and over a loooong period of time. To me the Dstream edged the Hugo, but they were close. Keep in mind that AL has lost of DS firmware to roll, so is not like most who just use the latest official release.
I do appreciate that others can and do have a difference of opinion, so wont fight you between Hogo and DS, but there was a huge CHASM between those 2 and the Lampi/MSB which BOTH had the high end sound.
Again I say, that the HUGO and DS are fine products, but I have to stop the overreach in its tracks. Its was not close and I am not one to nitpick small nuances.
Only thing AL key repeating over and over at Headfi was that Hugo didn't do DSD well as his other dacs. He did agree Hugo did PCM just about better or good as his $10,000.00 DACs. His only problem with Hugo was DSD. I partly agree with him with DSD on Hugo, I myself enjoyed listening to PCM more so than DSD on Hugo. PCM just sounded better than DSD. (same track etc) Most of AL ' collections are DSD and he was obsessed with DSD at the time from what I remember...
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SoS, I talk with AL often and sometimes several times a day as we chat about merits of tube rolling and other tweaks (not recently though). The only $10K Dac AL has is the Lampi B7 and there is no way he thinks the Hugo is in the same time zone in either DSD or PCM. Al has a $35K MSB, which we both consider close to the lampi and a $4K DStream and the Hugo. He also has tons of PCM...I wager he has more PCM that DSD, though he does have a lot of DSD too.
If you heard them both in the same system and A/B-ed them, you would get it immediatley. i am not trying to be unkind, but its more than obvious when you do the direct comparison. It may come across that I hate the Hugo, but I dont. I also expect the DAVE will be a serious contender to all...just look at the engineering and component quality. That too will crush the Hugo. You,more than most KNOW that I own a Qute, so i am not anti-Chord.
If you wish, I can contact him and have him clarify his position here for you...
Anyway, let's bring the focus back to the new Server. If I hear anything else on that I will update here. My Pal in Holland is still thrilled.
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Gopher: maybe the DAC discussion can be moved to a new thread? I like the DAC discussion generally myself, but agree it does not belong here, but there is good information being shared, and I would like to see it continue.
One thing I would ask though, everyone include system details when expressing comparisons. At least what the source, amp/preamp, and speakers are. With any DAC source (like the topic of this thread, the server) is extremely important, as is how the source is connected (SPDIF/USB/I2S/Ethernet, etc).
Maybe I missed it, is Lukasz's Server specifically USB? One thing I would like to see is adding an I2S (LVDS) to one of these B7 Lamps and serving them up from the Sonore Signature Rendu, that would be interesting! Sonore has I2S input boards we could provide for this.
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Barrows, I tried for months and could not make that happen.
Jesus had no spare demos to send and Lukasz was too busy to do much back and forthing.
It seems PCM is no issue, as Jesus uses the PSA HDMI connector standard. DSD is another matter and the the LVDS does not have enough lines to do chipless.
I gave up trying to make it happen, especially as the Regen steps up USB to such and extent for many to make the matter a non-issue. Only so much an interested outsider can do.
I like your thinking though.... :thumb:
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Barrows, I tried for months and could not make that happen.
Jesus had no spare demos to send and Lukasz was too busy to do much back and forthing.
It seems PCM is no issue, as Jesus uses the PSA HDMI connector standard. DSD is another matter and the the LVDS does not have enough lines to do chipless.
I gave up trying to make it happen, especially as the Regen steps up USB to such and extent for many to make the matter a non-issue. Only so much an interested outsider can do.
I like your thinking though.... :thumb:
Why would there be a problem for DSD? We run native DSD over LVDS all the time:Data L (+/-), Data R(+/-), Bit Clock(+/-), and Master Clock(+/-). It works into Buffalo DACs and no problem into the PS DS DAC.
Yup, no SSRs for loan available, as they are in short supply, but wiring up a board which gives standard I2S out, same as one would get from the Amenero should be easy as pie to Lamp.
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No idea why, but there seems to be an issue. Jesu as the same of the UK Vad guy who uses stepped resistors and he said that standard i2s would not work for his DSD playback either...
In any case, I wont waste another 2nd on this...I tried for long enough and have moved on, personally.