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Can you compare to this?
http://www.computeraudiophile.com/node/53
Absolutely amazing!
- Chris
Computer Audiophile | Turn Down The Silence
http://www.computeraudiophile.com
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RESPECT!
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I am sorry but that is freakin' sweet!
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I wonder if I can use this as leverage with my wife the next time I want to buy an audio toy?
Enjoy,
Bob
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Computer-based audio might help him a lot, he could navigate his collection easily from multiple systems. He'd have to hire even more minions to rip his collection though - and have his own data centre :-)
Darren
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Man that guy has a serious investment in audio. I have to add that to the favorites in my browser and show the wife next time she complains about my equipment talking up too much room. :o
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Computer-based audio might help him a lot, he could navigate his collection easily from multiple systems. He'd have to hire even more minions to rip his collection though - and have his own data centre :-)
Darren
Exactly! That would be an awesome music collection to have on NAS or SAN.
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RESPECT!
x2
I'm humbled,,,,,,,,,,
Cheers,
Robin
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He looks like he could use an adopted son (mid 40's who could appreciate it) to share his hobby with....I'm right here Dad.... :lol:
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Wow...I'd be interested to learn about his listening habits. Not program material, but system choice. He seems to have roughly 5 (could be wrong) full throttle high end systems setup and available. Does he listen to jazz on one system and eastern classical on another? Morning system and evening system? Perhaps it all just changes with the mood. As someone with a single system (unless you count iPod or computer with headphones), it's intriguing for me to see how others use (or don't use) their multiple systems.
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Unbelievable, he has my vote for the #1 Audiophile.
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Wow! :o He has my vote as well, that dude has to be #1 and not just because of his gear, he is obviously very serious about listening and sharing his music. Incredible.....
John
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Well, that's one excuse to have an elevator in your house.
I didn't see a lot of room treatments... :scratch: Could it just be the thrill of acquisition for this guy? Nah.
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Wow! :o He has my vote as well, that dude has to be #1 and not just because of his gear, he is obviously very serious about listening and sharing his music. Incredible.....
John
I was very skeptical at first until I saw his complete music collection. That solidified my opinion that this guy is #1 until proven otherwise.
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Sheeesh *looks over at my system*
I've got nothing!
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He looks like he could use an adopted son (mid 40's who could appreciate it) to share his hobby with....I'm right here Dad.... :lol:
Arthurs, I was thinking the same thing... :lol:
His assistant has the best job in the world, getting paid to 'play' with all that gear...dayem, sounds like audio heaven.
We salute you Mr. Li.
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How much time until an audiophile is called a "Li" :D
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Wow! :o He has my vote as well, that dude has to be #1 and not just because of his gear, he is obviously very serious about listening and sharing his music. Incredible.....
John
I have a same thought. Thanks John.
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He must have a most understanding wife. Wicked cool that he bought Japan's LP collection.
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Holy discretionary income, Batman! :o
Truly mind boggling.
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Ever been to China? You got money, you have got it made! I wonder if he had anything to do with the CD industry?
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If I were his wife...I would simply shut my mouth up, and happy with the monthly shopping allowance that was given by Mr. Li
(I bet he gave his wives enough money to buy enough GUCCI/PRADA hand-bags that fills up a few rooms.)
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He must have a most understanding wife. Wicked cool that he bought Japan's LP collection.
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Anyone who can buy 200,000 LP's on a whim and have enough space to store them is my hero. His combined music collection rivals any shop's inventory I've seen. I think he's more of a music lover than an audiophile.
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I do not know this is a truth or not and bet that Mr.Li is one of the high ranking officer in the Chinese government or maybe a "business buddy" of one of them??? :scratch:
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I do not know this is a truth or not and bet that Mr.Li is one of the high ranking officer in the Chinese government or maybe a "business buddy" of one of them??? :scratch:
I google'd him with no luck. Maybe I should check Baidu.
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There was mention of "his" restaurant:
".....and afterward we shared a wonderful meal in Mr. Li’s restaurant."
so maybe it's huge (and successful - and up-scale!)
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There was mention of "his" restaurant:
".....and afterward we shared a wonderful meal in Mr. Li’s restaurant."
so maybe it's huge (and successful - and up-scale!)
Did Robert mention "the best chinese meals in the world at Mr. Li's restaurant he had ever experienced" too? How about other "best entertainment?" :lol:
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WOW! He must have quite a power bill. :lol: And my wife complains that my meager 2 systems are cluttering up the house with "stereo stuff." It looks like one could build several dream systems with his cast off, unhooked up pieces. Not to mention all the music appears physically impossible to listen to by one person. No doubt he's #1, but at some point you just have to wonder, what's the point in >200,000 LPs if you can't listen to them all?
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No doubt he's #1, but at some point you just have to wonder, what's the point in >200,000 LPs if you can't listen to them all?
Well, according to the article, he maintains an audio club (next door) for the "public"...so just about everybody's musical taste should be covered. So it looks like its not just for his personal use... but, you never know, people say one thing to the "press" but after the press is gone, its another thing altogether.
At least he seems to have the right idea of potentially "educating" those less fortunate on the pleasures of music reproduction and listening.
Perhaps in the very distant future...when MP3 reigns supreme and the idea of high quality musical reproduction is but a distant memory...his then music museum would be a destination mecca for those seeking musical bliss.
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Just seeing those 2 power transformers or conditioners,not sure but 2 on each floor,that alone floored me.
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(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=12667)
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Mr Li has certainly spent plenty of money on equipment, however I really don't see much (or any) room treatments. I'm really not that impressed with "stuff" and brand names with high price tags, it really depends on how well it's integrated into a complete, competent system.
I've listed my picks for #1 Audiophile. They're both members of our audio club (Pacific Northwest Audio Society) and have served as judges at every one of our Bi-Annual DIY Speaker Contest, "The Puget Sound!"
They seem to be much more concerned with the "sound" of their systems and room than Mr. Li , at least in my opinion.
First is Winston Ma
http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue7/maroom.htm
http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue3/maroom.htm
http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue3/maroom2.htm
Second is Mike Lavigne:
http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue16/lavigneroom.htm
Best Regards,
TerryO
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No room treatment?? :o
I guess you ought to take a closer look at the photos...Room treatment is not all about panels (although he does have side-panels in one room)...bookshelves...CD-shelves acts as very good diffusive treatment.. and pay attention to the corners (I do see bass traps) ..and the ceiling.. they're all different in each room.. :wink:
Of course, if your definition of No.1 audiphiles means beautiful room... then Mr. Li will have plenty of competitors.. 8)
Mr Li has certainly spent plenty of money on equipment, however I really don't see much (or any) room treatments. I'm really not that impressed with "stuff" and brand names with high price tags, it really depends on how well it's integrated into a complete, competent system.
I've listed my picks for #1 Audiophile. They're both members of our audio club (Pacific Northwest Audio Society) and have served as judges at every one of our Bi-Annual DIY Speaker Contest, "The Puget Sound!"
They seem to be much more concerned with the "sound" of their systems and room than Mr. Li , at least in my opinion.
First is Winston Ma
http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue7/maroom.htm
http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue3/maroom.htm
http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue3/maroom2.htm
Second is Mike Lavigne:
http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue16/lavigneroom.htm
Best Regards,
TerryO
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http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue3/maroom2.htm
Is that a SonicRock?!? (4th picture down).
Seriously, I wonder why people who are building dedicated rooms from the ground up build with opposing parallel surfaces and then have to put extra acoustic treatment in afterwards because of it. It isn't that much harder to make a space where there are no "standing wave generators".
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Russell, care to educate me a little, is there such thing as ideal room shape?? (I am planning on building a dedicated room from ground-up) :thumb:
http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue3/maroom2.htm
Is that a SonicRock?!? (4th picture down).
Seriously, I wonder why people who are building dedicated rooms from the ground up build with opposing parallel surfaces and then have to put extra acoustic treatment in afterwards because of it. It isn't that much harder to make a space where there are no "standing wave generators".
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You know you've really crossed the line when you have more equipment than the store does! Sheesh! That's like living in an audio museum! Cool that he opens it up to people, it's too much for any one person. I have trouble grasping the size and practicality of my own music collection, and that's only a few hundred titles! That guy's got a public library's worth!
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95wbch, is your room going to be a separate building? I ask because it influences ceiling shape.
A friend built a small recording studio on his property that was pentangular in floor plan and had a peaked roof. A regular pentagon was chosen because it somewhat simplified the building of it, in that the roof was simpler. The walls all leaned out about 15 or 20 degrees. It looked neat and sounded great. It was pleasantly reverberant, but had no objectionable eigentones. It was nice to be in.
Sloped-out walls may be impractical for most, though, and are not all that necessary. A shortened variation of the coffin shape could work too, with a cathedral ceiling.
In my case, I had to build within an existing space and it was appropriate that the overall shape be rectangular. My solution was to make the side walls (which I had built) curve inwards with a 14 foot radius. They were built, surprisingly perhaps, out of tempered hardboard bent around a frame of two by fours nailed to curved 3/4' plywood plates on the cement basement floor and similar on the floor joists above. In spite of being lightweight they were amazingly rigid and did not resonate at bass frequencies due to the curve. These curves also created a constantly varying room width, eliminating any transverse standing waves.
Behind the speakers I built a false wall which contained a giant widerange trap from the ceiling almost to the floor and extending outside the left and right speaker positions. The ceiling from the front wall (behind the speakers) extending out into the room about 7 feet was covered with acoustic foam to deaden the area and absorb the first reflection from the ceiling.
The results were gratifying, with very even bass throughout.
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http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue3/maroom2.htm
Is that a SonicRock?!? (4th picture down).
(http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue3/images/ma4.jpg)
.............. :lol:
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Ever heard of audio neurosis?
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Not impressed. So he's a rich collector. He pays someone to maintain the equpment, did he also pay someone to buy it all? How much of the equipment or LPs does he listen to? Does he enjoy it? How knowledgable is he of music/audio? Is he a performer? Has he ever built/designed equipment? How good is his hearing? How educated is his ear to audio parameters? Does his systems sound good?
In my book, this is the kind of qualities that makes for a true audiophile.
I have an audiphile friend (HurdyGurdy Dave) that posts here occasionally. He's been into audio for 30 + years. He a musican, so he does vintage the old fashioned way (pawn shops, garage sales) and uses dail up. He also does repairs and in fact rebuilds crossovers for the Hawthorne Silver Iris coaxial speakers. Recently someone anonymously gave him an amp and CDP, until then he used an old Scott and a cheap CD burner that he sells his music with. His "sound room" is the living room of his modest 3 bedroom ranch. Over the years he's built his own speakers (and of course hurdy-gurdys). None of his stuff is state of the art, he's not been around the world annually to hear every great piece of equipment, and at his age probably doesn't have the greatest hearing. But he's a hands-on audio guy and knows music.
In my book HG Dave is a true audiophile, that has enthusiasm and experience.
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I disagree with the dismissing of this guy's passion for audio, although he is the consummate gear pack rat. The article showed his love for music by recounting that he could wade through his massive music collection and adeptly lay hands on the selections that he wanted to play. That shows his head and heart are in the right place IMO. And... he freely shares. :thumb:
I try not to let envy taint my opinions of those more fortunate, and I'm more than a little envious of his resources. I'd love to spend a few weeks discovering his collection of equipment and music.
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This fellow here has far more interesting stuff, imo.
http://www.gokudo.co.jp/Vanguard/room4/room4.htm
http://www.gokudo.co.jp/Vanguard/room3/room3.htm
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This fellow here has far more interesting stuff, imo.
http://www.gokudo.co.jp/Vanguard/room4/room4.htm
http://www.gokudo.co.jp/Vanguard/room3/room3.htm
The stuff is interesting. The arrangement, not so much. Someone should tell him there's a big glass coffee table in the middle of the room.
I like the TT that looks like a giant sewing machine.
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Word! :thumb: :thumb:
I disagree with the dismissing of this guy's passion for audio, although he is the consummate gear pack rat. The article showed his love for music by recounting that he could wade through his massive music collection and adeptly lay hands on the selections that he wanted to play. That shows his head and heart are in the right place IMO. And... he freely shares. :thumb:
I try not to let envy taint my opinions of those more fortunate, and I'm more than a little envious of his resources. I'd love to spend a few weeks discovering his collection of equipment and music.
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Seriously, I wonder why people who are building dedicated rooms from the ground up build with opposing parallel surfaces and then have to put extra acoustic treatment in afterwards because of it. It isn't that much harder to make a space where there are no "standing wave generators".
I question this critique. If one were to make the side walls, for example, start at one distance apart and slowly widen out, all you are doing is average out the frequency of the standing wave mode. Note also that at the frequency in question (low freq, long wave) you aren't spreading it out that much because it take a huge amount of variation (in distance between walls) at this wave length to make an appreciable difference (its exponential, not linear). So I don't see how this could be easily done differently without just slightly changing the frequency affected.
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Yes, I can't know or judge the level of his passion, but measuring a boy by his toys doesn't cut it with me. I'm much more impressed by the audiophiles that design/build equipment and that know/perform music.
The mega-systems I've heard remind me more of artifical/hyped big box stuff (more impressive to be sure) than the heart/soul/essence of music.
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I've not been in Winston's room but he has great ears. Terry is right about that.
I think we should give out an annual award. It could be something voted upon by the media with some involvement from the peanut gallery. My vote is for Terry Olsen. Anyone who can enjoy listening to Radio Shack speakers as much as Terry does deserves it.
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Mr Li has certainly spent plenty of money on equipment, however I really don't see much (or any) room treatments. I'm really not that impressed with "stuff" and brand names with high price tags, it really depends on how well it's integrated into a complete, competent system.
I've listed my picks for #1 Audiophile. They're both members of our audio club (Pacific Northwest Audio Society) and have served as judges at every one of our Bi-Annual DIY Speaker Contest, "The Puget Sound!"
They seem to be much more concerned with the "sound" of their systems and room than Mr. Li , at least in my opinion.
First is Winston Ma
http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue7/maroom.htm
http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue3/maroom.htm
http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue3/maroom2.htm
Second is Mike Lavigne:
http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue16/lavigneroom.htm
Best Regards,
TerryO
How can you make comments about someone you don't know?
Who cares if you aren't impressed with his collection? I'm sure
he didn't buy it to impress you or me...
Why do these things always have to turn into a pissing contest?
It looks like he has a lot of fun collecting stuff, that's what collectors
do. For many of those people I've met, they get as much enjoyment
out of the procurement as they do listening, sometimes more but
that's what makes THEM happy.
Why is that wrong?
I guess if we would have run that story, I wouldn't have called Mr. Li
the "world's number one audiophile" because it just opens up discussions
with this kind of stuff. Why does he have to be measured at all?
And so those of us that have good systems, but haven't built them ourselves
and aren't musicians aren't worthy?
This is why this industry is in a downward spiral. No one can keep the
elitists happy....
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It's just a fact of life, that no matter how good you are, you can't make everybody happy, people can always find reason to fault you. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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I know Terry and he is about as far from elite as you can get.... in a good way.
I'm sure he came off wrong in that post. He is a humble guy and really loves the hobby. He has an opinion but I'm sure he isn't bashing anyone.
The Internet has its limitations in terms of communication and I think a lot of times people don't come off like they would in person. That is very much the case in this situation.
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How can you make comments about someone you don't know?
Speaking only for myself, I suppose I can comment on anybody who clearly acquires more stuff than they could ever hope to make use of. Needing to own ten different gargantuan six-figure stereo systems is just silliness. The bit about making them available to the public or whatever is clearly an afterthought; the need to acquire them undoubtedly came first.
It looks like he has a lot of fun collecting stuff, that's what collectors do.
And you could justify anything with this logic. Any behavior is okay as long as you're an X. I'm an X, and that's just what X's do! Jerry Seinfeld owns 100 Porsches, all parked in an airplane hangar. Why? He's a collector! Not a bored gazillionaire with more money than he knows what to do with -- a bona fide Porsche aficionado. Well, anybody can be a Porsche enthusiast if they have a hundred million in the bank. It doesn't say anything in particular about a person's actual taste or appreciation. (I'm sure Jerry appreciates his cars. I'm just not obligated to be impressed by his dedication, right?)
For many of those people I've met, they get as much enjoyment
out of the procurement as they do listening, sometimes more but
that's what makes THEM happy.
What is this, the hedonist manifesto? If he's happy, great. (But can you see into his soul?? :wink:) That isn't going to stop people from having opinions on his means of obtaining happiness. Such is life. Procurement is fleeting; that's why there's a need to keep procuring ad infinitum. I personally find that to be perfectly irrational behavior, usually propped up by circular rationales like "this is what makes me happy." (No, it's what makes you irrational.) Anyone who thinks "happiness" is to be found by methods so superficial as that doesn't know what being happy means. IMO.
Why is that wrong?
It's not "wrong" in any black and white sense. It's just irrational. And his money could no doubt be better spent, but hey, whose couldn't. He's just got more to blow.
And so those of us that have good systems, but haven't built them ourselves
and aren't musicians aren't worthy?
I agree with this; it's a silly set of requirements to insist on.
This is why this industry is in a downward spiral. No one can keep the
elitists happy....
This strikes me as non sequitur, but maybe you have something unexpressed in mind.
Sorry, guess the mood struck me to fisk this one. Cheers! :)
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This fellow here has far more interesting stuff, imo.
http://www.gokudo.co.jp/Vanguard/room4/room4.htm
http://www.gokudo.co.jp/Vanguard/room3/room3.htm
Please tell me that's a giant Klangfilm horn-loaded alarm clock in room 3.
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How can you make comments about someone you don't know?
Who cares if you aren't impressed with his collection? I'm sure
he didn't buy it to impress you or me...
Why do these things always have to turn into a pissing contest?
It looks like he has a lot of fun collecting stuff, that's what collectors
do. For many of those people I've met, they get as much enjoyment
out of the procurement as they do listening, sometimes more but
that's what makes THEM happy.
Why is that wrong?
I guess if we would have run that story, I wouldn't have called Mr. Li
the "world's number one audiophile" because it just opens up discussions
with this kind of stuff. Why does he have to be measured at all?
And so those of us that have good systems, but haven't built them ourselves
and aren't musicians aren't worthy?
This is why this industry is in a downward spiral. No one can keep the
elitists happy....
Couldn't agree more Jeff. :dunno:
If he could read these comments, I am sure he would piss his pants....
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Sorry, guess the mood struck me to fisk this one. Cheers! :)
Just sounds like another grumpy have not, feeling the need to rain on someone
else's deal.
It's like Gene Simmons said: "I'll let you know when I have enough money"
The mood just struck to to write a rebuttal. Cheers :)
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I'll tell you one thing, if I was a bazillionaire with a big house, I would have a mega-kick-ass system in every room :thumb:
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My clock radio would have Feastrex speakers.
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Can you compare to this?
http://www.computeraudiophile.com/node/53
Absolutely amazing!
- Chris
Computer Audiophile | Turn Down The Silence
http://www.computeraudiophile.com
Just a reminder of what the original post in this thread stated:
"Can you compare to this?"
I merely mentioned what my take was on the information supplied and the pictures that accompanied the text. I then supplied a couple of links that cover systems that I know about and are generally highly regarded. How this constitutes a "pissing contest" is beyond me, and I have not claimed that my personal system is, in any way, worth writing about.
There are, however, several points that I disagree with and that is when TONEPUB asks:
"How can you make comments about someone you don't know?"
Well, it seems that you don't have a problem with it, at least when it concerns me. I'm also pretty certain that we've never met. However that may be, you have interpreted what I said in a way that is far from the mark.
"Who cares if you aren't impressed with his collection? I'm sure
he didn't buy it to impress you or me..."
Well, evidently I've raised your ire by not being as impressed as I guess you are.
If I was really nasty, I suppose I might ask the reciprocal question: Who cares if you "are" impressed with his collection?
BTW: I do consider collections and systems as entirely different entities and what pertains to one is no reflection on the other. It is, indeed, an impressive and comprehensive collection to say the least.
"Why do these things always have to turn into a pissing contest?"
Probably when someone is determined to put someone else in their place.
Finally, TONEPUB says:
"And so those of us that have good systems, but haven't built them ourselves and aren't musicians aren't worthy?
This is why this industry is in a downward spiral. No one can keep the
elitists happy...."
I wish someone could show me exactly where I said anything of the kind. This misleading statement seemingly attributes to me thoughts or statements that I haven't made. If this is journalism, it's no wonder why this Country is in a downward spiral...
Best Regards,
TerryO
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My clock radio would have Feastrex speakers.
Mine would be plugged into a couple of vintage Marshall amps. :o :weights:
Cheers :guitar:
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I'll tell you one thing, if I was a bazillionaire with a big house, I would have a mega-kick-ass system in every room :thumb:
Hey!
Yup, If I turn out to be a billionaire overnight I would do that too. Why not? :lol:
But still... I will have one room with my current system in it where everything will be just like it is right now. :wink:
Take care,
Buddy :thumb:
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I'm not impressed or unimpressed by the guys stuff.
Merely intrigued by someone who has amassed so much.
Take it however you'd like.
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I'm not impressed or unimpressed by the guys stuff.
Merely intrigued by someone who has amassed so much.
Take it however you'd like.
Ditto with regard to the equipment, little if any of which appeals to me sonically.
But I'd be interested to know what's in his record collection.
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I take that back, as a MartinLogan owner, I would like to see and
hear those Statements, never got to give those a listen...
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Saying "I'm not impressed" isn't a diss, its just not supportive.
Saying that "I'm more impressed with those who design/build audio equipment or are musical performers" doesn't exclude those who don't/aren't. I've assembled two kits and built speakers from plans/parts, so I hardly qualify on those counts. But its obvious (to me at least) that if you have that level of involvement with equipment/music, you could have a deeper appreciation.
Owning all that equipment (or 100 Porsches) is unfathomable to me. Just don't understand why (other than an investment). Just me, but I just don't "get" private collections of anything (more than you can use/enjoy).
Besides its my opinion, and unless AC has turned into a bully's playground, it should be OK to express opinions.
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I don't know if Mr. Li is the " World's Number One Audiophile "......but he sure would make a great "loanwolf".....he's got plenty of equipment to loan out for a listen.... 8)
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Sorry, guess the mood struck me to fisk this one. Cheers! :)
Just sounds like another grumpy have not, feeling the need to rain on someone
else's deal.
It's like Gene Simmons said: "I'll let you know when I have enough money"
The mood just struck to to write a rebuttal. Cheers :)
When you're citing the wisdom and maturity of Gene Simmons to bolster your "rebuttal" it's probably time to admit you don't really have one.
"It's like the world's biggest overgrown adolescent narcissist once said: 'Everybody can go fuck themselves!'" Great rebuttal! :thumb:
I'm not raining on anyone. We just disagree. You think Mr. Li must be the paragon of audiophile intrigue, and I think he must be a silly, silly man. I'm comfortable, and not at all grumpy, with that.
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Computer-based audio might help him a lot, he could navigate his collection easily from multiple systems. He'd have to hire even more minions to rip his collection though - and have his own data centre :-)
Darren
It definitely would, but that might be missing the point. Sometimes listening to music is a process, and part of that process is the lifting and opening of a CD case, or the sliding out of an LP, etc. I can appreciate the computer based source and I am working on one of my own, but personally I still prefer the hands on approach. It is almost a ritual with me. Then once again, this has a lot to do with how one actually listens to their music.
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I take that back, as a MartinLogan owner, I would like to see and
hear those Statements, never got to give those a listen...
You haven't missed anything. I attended a press demonstration of them years ago when they were introduced along with the 600 lb. Krell Master Reference amps in a huge room off site at the time of CES in Las Vegas, presented by Gayle Sanders and Dan D'Agostino. Powerful but that's it, and like the other M-L models not well integrated and glary as hell. No involvement in the music one iota. Just big phallic symbols. I don't have a problem with big and expensive, but if you're gonna do it get it right, really right.