ACI Force Setup

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dano1122

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ACI Force Setup
« on: 22 Jan 2007, 10:40 pm »
I'm writing to see if I can get some feedback for my ACI Force subwoofer setup. I ordered and received the sub recently and diligently went to work setting it up; reading the guide, playing with positioning, and measuring the in-room response. My findings were that the subwoofer sounds best nearer to a corner, with the bottom plate off, aiming down at a medium thickness carpeted floor. I ran measurements from my primary listening position, twice just to be sure, with an radio shack analog spl meter according to ACI's instructions w/ their test CD. My crossover is at 100Hz, the signal is line level left in, phase is 0, crossover A and B dials on the sub both near 100 mark, and gain on max on the subwoofer with a 1 setting from the receiver (out of 0-20). One interesting thing I saw (and this is perhaps quite normal) is that the subwoofer driver still resonates when frequencies are played that are above 100 well through 150 with the 100Hz crossover. I am enjoying the sub and the bottom end it is filling in but as is usual would like to get the best performance possible. My compensated measurements are listed below. Room size is ~ 12'Hx16'Wx16'L with carpet and one large entry way, of which the audio system is pointed away from, and the room having no other paths for sound to escape.

Atm, i'm considering an EQ system to even out the response(RDES, SMS, or RoomEQ w/ soundcard). Bass traps will be hard to pull off because of WAF but willing to look into it. Thanks for any help.

20 -> 70.2
22.5 -> 70.4
25  -> 68.4
27.5 -> 68.7
30 -> 66.4
35 -> 61.5
40 ->64
45 -> 62.7
50 -> 60.3
55 -> 65
60 -> 70.9
65 -> 72.8
70 -> 737
75 -> 72.6
80 -> 69.5
90 -> 62.4
100 -> 69.3
110 -> 60.25
125 -> 74.2
140 -> 75.15
160 -> 75.1



opnly bafld

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Re: ACI Force Setup
« Reply #1 on: 22 Jan 2007, 10:59 pm »
What are your main speakers?
Are you running them fullrange or x-o at ?hz ?

Lin

dano1122

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Re: ACI Force Setup
« Reply #2 on: 23 Jan 2007, 12:33 am »
HTD Middies for LRC & set to Small w/ Sub x/o at 100Hz

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Re: ACI Force Setup
« Reply #3 on: 23 Jan 2007, 01:02 am »
My crossover is at 100Hz, the signal is line level left in, phase is 0, crossover A and B dials on the sub both near 100 mark, and gain on max on the subwoofer with a 1 setting from the receiver (out of 0-20). One interesting thing I saw (and this is perhaps quite normal) is that the subwoofer driver still resonates when frequencies are played that are above 100 well through 150 with the 100Hz crossover.


Does the receiver have a base setting for sub level (I am only familiar with ones that have "0" with + or - dBs)? 
It seems like it might be better to use a middle setting on your rec. and lower the gain on the sub.
Output from the sub above the cutoff is normal, I believe ACI's have a starting slope of 24dB/oct, so the driver does not just stop moving, but moves less and contributes less to the overall output as the frequencies go higher.
I would suggest playing with the adjustments some more, after you allow time to hear the differences.
Make sure you keep track of/write down ones you like so you can go back.

Hope this helps,
Lin

dano1122

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Re: ACI Force Setup
« Reply #4 on: 23 Jan 2007, 04:27 am »
the receiver has a 0-20 indicator for the sub level, that is all. not -10 to 10. thank you for explaining the effect of the crossover slope.

dano1122

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Re: ACI Force Setup
« Reply #5 on: 25 Jan 2007, 06:36 am »
i went ahead and recalibrated with the subwoofer gain at halfway. this time my receiver subwoofer setting is at 10/20 and i am running it about ~4db hotter then my LCR speakers according to radioshack meter.

i'm running measurements with subwoofer and speakers hooked up with the test cd tones. i'll try setting the low pass filters to 250 and see how it changes the sound... and run some more measurements
i'll look into eq and room traps, since placement is restricted.