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Title: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: songaudio on 4 Mar 2015, 10:24 pm
https://www.linkedin.com/profile/public-profile-settings?trk=prof-edit-edit-public_profile

For more information, please submit the statement to songkim@songaudio.com

Song Kim
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: mresseguie on 4 Mar 2015, 11:11 pm
Your link took me to my LinkedIn profile page. Hmm. Odd.
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: SoCalWJS on 5 Mar 2015, 12:17 am
Your link took me to my LinkedIn profile page. Hmm. Odd.
Ditto...... :scratch:
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 5 Mar 2015, 12:43 am
I don't have a LinkedIn page, but it wants me to sign up.   :?
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: songaudio on 5 Mar 2015, 01:06 am
I don't have a LinkedIn page, but it wants me to sign up.   :?
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 5 Mar 2015, 01:51 am
You quoted me, but didn't reply.
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: MttBsh on 5 Mar 2015, 02:32 am
I like where this thread is going! :dunno:
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 5 Mar 2015, 02:37 am
It is kinda relaxing....that's for sure.
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: songaudio on 5 Mar 2015, 07:09 pm
I like where this thread is going! :dunno:
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: Bear on 5 Mar 2015, 07:18 pm

Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: ServerAdmin on 5 Mar 2015, 07:23 pm
Welcome back, Song Kim. The rules are a little different now, and since this thread appears to be commercial promotion, I will move it to Industry Introductions for you. Good luck.
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: songaudio on 5 Mar 2015, 07:24 pm
Thanks for your kind message.

Song Kim.
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: paul79 on 5 Mar 2015, 08:49 pm

Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: srb on 5 Mar 2015, 09:07 pm
I don't know about you, but I've learned a lot about audio systems and life in general from this topic.  But I do sometimes wonder about
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: neekomax on 5 Mar 2015, 11:40 pm
For reference:


(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=116206)
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 6 Mar 2015, 12:55 am
I'll just leave this right here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKm160Qcnqs
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: songaudio on 6 Mar 2015, 04:45 pm
Song Audio Ltd., is inviting any members in Toronto area to experience Most Live Sounding Audio System in the world, with your own CDs... and post your findings to this site.  You can send your e-mail questions to songkim to songkimatsongaudio.com or call 1-416-737-1965.
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: songaudio on 6 Mar 2015, 05:58 pm
Thanks for your support.

Song Kim
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: WGH on 6 Mar 2015, 08:14 pm
I'll help everyone out:

Song Audio Ltd. LinkedIn page: https://www.linkedin.com/pub/song-kim/34/17a/92b (https://www.linkedin.com/pub/song-kim/34/17a/92b)

Song Audio web page: http://songaudio.com/index.htm (http://songaudio.com/index.htm)
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: mresseguie on 6 Mar 2015, 08:37 pm
WGH,

Thank you!

I know the OP thought he was providing the correct link, but he didn't understand that. Now, I can read the info.

So...just how good is his amplifier? I wonder how it compares to other high-end tube amps - Roger Modeski amps, for example.....If he never ventures beyond Toronto, I may never know.  :(

Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: WGH on 6 Mar 2015, 08:57 pm
Song's Links page has audio show reviews. 6 Moons wrote a glowing review:

(http://www.6moons.com/industryfeatures/rmaf05paul/1.jpg)

Song Audio is an outfit that deserves far greater attention than it has received thus far. I know the folks at SoundStage! would agree. Just check out their thumbs-up reviews of Song Kim's SA-300 MB monoblocks ($4900) and SA-1 tube preamp ($4500). Song teamed up with the folks at Zu and offered a killer system featuring Mr. Kim's awesome gear and Zu Druids. A HiFi match made in heaven if there was ever one. Zu's Sean Casey and Adam Decaria were so impressed, they used Song's gear in their own room. Only with the gain cranked up on the SA-1 and my ear an inch away from the main driver could I detect the faintest hiss from the 101dB Druids. Now, that's from a tube preamp and tube power supply! Sweet. Also on display was Song's Acoustic Monitor loudspeakers, Vasant-K solid-state integrated, SA-34 SB 4 watt SET ($1900) and gussied-up Cecilia integrated. I hear EnjoytheMusic's Steve Rochlin was so impressed, he requested a review loaner.
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: bluemike on 6 Mar 2015, 09:10 pm
Fwiw I have heard Mr Song Kim's electronics and speakers and they are pretty impressive
Call me stoked  :thumb:
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: songaudio on 6 Mar 2015, 11:57 pm
For more detail information, please visit our website;https://www.linkedin.com/profile/public-profile-settings?trk=prof-edit-edit-public_profile  for more detail.

Song Kim
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: JLM on 7 Mar 2015, 12:31 am
Sorry, that just takes me to my own Linked-In page.
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: ServerAdmin on 9 Mar 2015, 09:28 am
Song Kim, I'm sorry but you have now started three (maybe more) threads elsewhere on this site. I have no choice but to limit your access to the site. Please post only in this thread, and each of your posts will be approved within a few days. Thank you.
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: bladesmith on 9 Mar 2015, 09:48 am
I'll just leave this right here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKm160Qcnqs

Bob,

I was confused a bit there, for a moment.  But, I understand now.

Thank you.....
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 9 Mar 2015, 01:14 pm
Bob,

I was confused a bit there, for a moment.  But, I understand now.

Thank you.....
Yea...sorry. It was relevant at one time but due to culling of unnecessary posts, it's now orphaned and looks out of place.
Honestly, it should have gone away with the rest of them.
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: songaudio on 9 Mar 2015, 07:43 pm
Dear mresseguie,

For more detail, please visit our website-https://www.linkedin.com/profile/public-profile-settings?trk=prof-edit-edit-public_profile or send your e-mail to: songkim@songaudio.com

Song Kim
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: songaudio on 10 Mar 2015, 02:22 am
Dear Mresseguie,       

For more detail information, please visit our website:     https://www.linkedin.com/profile/public-profile-settings?trk=prof-edit-edit-public_profile

Song Kim       
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: songaudio on 10 Mar 2015, 02:32 am
Dear mresseguie,

All I can do is to refer you to our main website, written by Toronto Star News Paper's Live Concert Critic's commenthttps://www.linkedin.com/profile/public-profile-settings?trk=prof-edit-edit-public_profile

Song Kim
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: ServerAdmin on 10 Mar 2015, 09:35 am
Hello Song Kim, it was pointed out several times that the link that you are posting does NOT provide any information about Song Audio or the most live audio system in the world.

Please provide a proper online web link that people can access. Or post the the information here in this thread. Thank you.
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: WGH on 10 Mar 2015, 02:29 pm
Dear Song Kim,

The internet is strange invention, sometimes links that work for you does not work for everyone else. One example is the LinkedIn link you provide to your "web site".
Even though the link works for you it does not work for anyone else, that is what everyone is trying to tell you, just trust us - it does not work.

In future communication please copy, paste and use the link below when telling people about your web site:

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/song-kim/34/17a/92b

Thank you,

Wayne
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: Guy 13 on 10 Mar 2015, 02:39 pm
Hi Song Kim,
why can't you have a website easily and directly accessible like every manufacturers.
If you want people to know you and buy your products that's the way you should go.
If it was me, but it's not, I would change your:
Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
for
Most live sound audio system.
The In the world to me sounds a little pretentious.
That's my opinion and should be seen as constructive criticism.
I hope this can help.

Guy 13

Posting pictures here on Audio Circle should be simple
and cut all the complaining about the lack of information of your business....

By the way, I really don't understand the two questions of your poll. Sorry !


 

Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: mresseguie on 10 Mar 2015, 04:25 pm
Song Kim,

I'm honored that you posted to me three times. Thank you. I got the message you have been trying unsuccessfully to convey mostly thanks to Wayne's posting the correct link (+1 to WGH).

I really do understand how difficult it is to communicate in a foreign language. I've spent nearly thirty years communicating with Mandarin Chinese speakers. Sometimes I feel as though I'm fluent and can talk all day; other times I feel like a moron because I can't understand what a child is saying to me. :duh: It's been a mostly enjoyable and rewarding experience.

You are attempting to communicate important information to a mostly English speaking audience. Unfortunately, it is obvious that you do not speak/read/write English with anything more than a very basic level.

Hire a translator.

Your amplifier may be the best amp in the world, but I won't buy it because I know there is no way I can communicate with you if there is ever a problem.

Hire a translator.

Hire a translator.

Hire a translator.

Repeat after me.......
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: WGH on 11 Mar 2015, 02:06 am
Hi Song Kim,
why can't you have a website easily and directly accessible like every manufacturers.

Song Kim does have a website as I posted on Page 1 but I decided to tackle one problem at a time. An old girlfriend was internet challenged and baby steps always worked out best.

Song Audio web site: http://songaudio.com/index.htm

Yes the LinkedIn page is not what we think of as a website but it is probably the easiest way for Song Kim to update his information.

Wayne
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: G Georgopoulos on 11 Mar 2015, 02:41 am
my computer went crazy with his link... :green:
now is ok
with this
https://www.linkedin.com/pub/song-kim/34/17a/92b   ... :thumb:
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: dB Cooper on 11 Mar 2015, 03:25 am
Song Kim,

I'm honored that you posted to me three times. Thank you. I got the message you have been trying unsuccessfully to convey mostly thanks to Wayne's posting the correct link (+1 to WGH).

I really do understand how difficult it is to communicate in a foreign language. I've spent nearly thirty years communicating with Mandarin Chinese speakers. Sometimes I feel as though I'm fluent and can talk all day; other times I feel like a moron because I can't understand what a child is saying to me. :duh: It's been a mostly enjoyable and rewarding experience.

You are attempting to communicate important information to a mostly English speaking audience. Unfortunately, it is obvious that you do not speak/read/write English with anything more than a very basic level.

Your amplifier may be the best amp in the world, but I won't buy it because I know there is no way I can communicate with you if there is ever a problem.

Hire a translator.

Hire a translator.

Hire a translator.

Repeat after me.......

While you're at it, a web designer might not be a bad investment either. The landing page is... Well, amateurish is the nicest word I can think of. The only reason I explored the site further was my morbid curiosity generated by this oddly entertaining thread. Otherwise, when I was greeted by what I saw, from a company hoping to entice me to spend $10K for an amp/preamp combo, I would have done a "Run Awaaaaaaayyyyyy!!!!!". (HINT: "Monty Python and the Holy grail reference.)

BTW, is there a single manufacturer represented here who doesn't believe they make the best equipment you can buy?
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: Guy 13 on 11 Mar 2015, 03:27 am
Song Kim does have a website as I posted on Page 1 but I decided to tackle one problem at a time. An old girlfriend was internet challenged and baby steps always worked out best.

Song Audio web site: http://songaudio.com/index.htm

Yes the LinkedIn page is not what we think of as a website but it is probably the easiest way for Song Kim to update his information.

Wayne

Hi Wayne,
thanks for the link.
I was finally able to see Song Kim website.
Nice products.
Maybe when I'm back in Canada I will be able to listen to the
Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World ! at a audio Toronto show.

Guy 13

Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: pwag on 11 Mar 2015, 04:08 am
Looking at Mr. Song Kim's websites, it appears that he has a BA in English Literature and worked in the 2nd U.S. Infantry Division as a translator so maybe this is not a language problem but a lack of proofreading.



Song Kim,

I'm honored that you posted to me three times. Thank you. I got the message you have been trying unsuccessfully to convey mostly thanks to Wayne's posting the correct link (+1 to WGH).

I really do understand how difficult it is to communicate in a foreign language. I've spent nearly thirty years communicating with Mandarin Chinese speakers. Sometimes I feel as though I'm fluent and can talk all day; other times I feel like a moron because I can't understand what a child is saying to me. :duh: It's been a mostly enjoyable and rewarding experience.

You are attempting to communicate important information to a mostly English speaking audience. Unfortunately, it is obvious that you do not speak/read/write English with anything more than a very basic level.

Hire a translator.

Your amplifier may be the best amp in the world, but I won't buy it because I know there is no way I can communicate with you if there is ever a problem.

Hire a translator.

Hire a translator.

Hire a translator.

Repeat after me.......
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: mresseguie on 11 Mar 2015, 04:39 am
Hi, pwag.

Actually, I've sent him PMs and emails trying to get him to understand the problems (it's why he posted to me in this thread), but he just doesn't get it. I'm convinced he doesn't understand. This is why I believe he needs a translator for all his emails and pms.

I won't spend any more time trying to help him.

Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: pwag on 11 Mar 2015, 04:52 am
Yes, he definitely needs a communication/language mentor.  I just don't understand why somebody who is trying to attract attention to a new - and not inexpensive -- brand, ruins it all with such abysmal communication and dysfunctional postings. This thread is more about that than his products.


Hi, pwag.

Actually, I've sent him PMs and emails trying to get him to understand the problems (it's why he posted to me in this thread), but he just doesn't get it. I'm convinced he doesn't understand. This is why I believe he needs a translator for all his emails and pms.

I won't spend any more time trying to help him.
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: G Georgopoulos on 11 Mar 2015, 05:00 am
"Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World"

he wrote that in perfect english... :green:
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: Guy 13 on 11 Mar 2015, 05:08 am
Hi all,
English is not my native language
but I am sure some other AC members will agree with me:
This is not good English and to me, those two phrases makes no sense.
Please comment.

Guy 13
The French Canadian
English and French are the two official language of Canada.
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: mresseguie on 11 Mar 2015, 05:25 am
I wonder if this is perfect Korean:

세상에서 살고 들리는 오디오 시스템 은 대부분의  :green:

I used an online translator site. It's possible he did the same, or perhaps someone helped him. dunno. I hope he figures it out. He's really not helping himself here.

I just used the same translation site to translate the Korean back into English:

"The audio system sounds live in a world of many." Good fun.
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 11 Mar 2015, 12:14 pm
.... those two phrases makes no sense.
Please comment.

You are 100% correct Guy.
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: Russell Dawkins on 11 Mar 2015, 05:33 pm
There should be a third choice in the poll:
"I don't understand the question".
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: srb on 11 Mar 2015, 06:03 pm
Or maybe a fourth choice:
"I'm not sure I care"
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: CSI on 11 Mar 2015, 06:44 pm
Some years ago when I was still active in the industry a guy showed up at CES with speakers and electronics and a big sign that said something like, "If you can find a better sounding audio system than mine I will give you $100,000. Guaranteed." For all I know his stuff might be really good but neither I nor anyone else I knew bothered to listen. It is hard to give a fair (or even any) hearing to a guy when you are laughing at him. Maybe it's the same guy....
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: Guy 13 on 12 Mar 2015, 02:51 am
"Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World"

he wrote that in perfect english... :green:

Hi Georgopoulos,
maybe good English,
but in my opinion it's a little too pretentious.
How can Song Kim know if his system is the most alive in the world?
Did he listen to all the systems in the world ????

Guy 13
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: Guy 13 on 12 Mar 2015, 02:52 am
There should be a third choice in the poll:
"I don't understand the question".

 :lol: :thumb:
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: Guy 13 on 12 Mar 2015, 02:52 am
Or maybe a fourth choice:
"I'm not sure I care"

 :lol: :thumb:
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: Guy 13 on 12 Mar 2015, 02:55 am
Some years ago when I was still active in the industry a guy showed up at CES with speakers and electronics and a big sign that said something like, "If you can find a better sounding audio system than mine I will give you $100,000. Guaranteed." For all I know his stuff might be really good but neither I nor anyone else I knew bothered to listen. It is hard to give a fair (or even any) hearing to a guy when you are laughing at him. Maybe it's the same guy....

Hi CSI,
I try as much as possible to stay away from those guys that claim they are the best
or they have the best products in the word and all the same...

Guy 13

By the way, I am not the best in the world,
maybe the best on planet Vietnam...  :lol:
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: dB Cooper on 12 Mar 2015, 03:03 am
Some years ago when I was still active in the industry a guy showed up at CES with speakers and electronics and a big sign that said something like, "If you can find a better sounding audio system than mine I will give you $100,000. Guaranteed." For all I know his stuff might be really good but neither I nor anyone else I knew bothered to listen. It is hard to give a fair (or even any) hearing to a guy when you are laughing at him. Maybe it's the same guy....

Kind of reminds me of all the different pizza places whose box says, "You've tried the rest, now try the best!"

FWIW, in today's insanely expensive "deep end" audio milieu, $10K is not all that bad for tube separates. But you're right CSI, the huckster-style marketing approach (and the mega-cheesy website too) do not inspire confidence.
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: JerryM on 12 Mar 2015, 03:16 am
In advertising, one can say Best, Best in the World, Best Ever In The History Of All Mankind, 99 and 44⁄100% Pure (pure what?), or any number of other similar phrases.

What one can't say about a product is that it's "better" than another product, unless the advertiser can prove his statement beyond a preponderance of the evidence.

Always listen for the word "better" and, of course, how it is being used.

Now, back to our regularly scheduled programming...  :wink:
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: Guy 13 on 12 Mar 2015, 03:16 am
Hi all,
what really annoy me is:
How can you claim your " whatever " is the best in the world,
when you have not been around the world to see.
That's why I hate that expression " Best in the world ".
I wonder how Mr. Song Kim could modify his:
Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Any suggestions to give free of charge to Mr. Song Kim ?
Help the poor guy.... He really need marketing help.

Guy 13
 
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: Guy 13 on 12 Mar 2015, 03:18 am
In advertising, one can say Best, Best in the World, Best Ever In The History Of All Mankind, 99 and 44⁄100% Pure (pure what?), or any number of other similar phrases.

What one can't say about a product is that it's "better" than another product, unless the advertiser can prove his statement beyond a preponderance of the evidence.

Always listen for the word "better" and, of course, how it is being used.

Now, back to our regularly scheduled programming...  :wink:

Hi JerryM.
You said what I think but with a better choice of words.
Thanks.

Guy 13
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: Russell Dawkins on 12 Mar 2015, 07:01 am
I am reminded of a probably apocryphal story about a certain block in Cremona, Italy which from around 1565 to 1735  contained the workshops of Stradivarius, Guarneri and Amati - three of the most revered violin makers even today.

This is how the signs in front of their entrances read:
"Amati Violins - the best in Cremona", "Guarneri Violins - the best in the world" and  "Stradivarius Violins - the best on the block".
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: mresseguie on 12 Mar 2015, 07:21 am
 :rotflmao:
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: Guy 13 on 12 Mar 2015, 11:19 am
I am reminded of a probably apocryphal story about a certain block in Cremona, Italy which from around 1565 to 1735  contained the workshops of Stradivarius, Guarneri and Amati - three of the most revered violin makers even today.

This is how the signs in front of their entrances read:
"Amati Violins - the best in Cremona", "Guarneri Violins - the best in the world" and  "Stradivarius Violins - the best on the block".

 :thumb:
Title: Re: Most Live Sounding Audio System in the World
Post by: songaudio on 21 Jan 2017, 06:37 pm
Hello Song Kim, it was pointed out several times that the link that you are posting does NOT provide any information about Song Audio or the most live audio system in the world.

Please provide a proper online web link that people can access. Or post the the information here in this thread. Thank you.