Oh, in reply to Mr. Clark. Yeah, I think this this cult around a lot to the 70's era MIJ stuff that is totally unwarranted. It seems like all of it was mid-fi....at best. I don't get it......if ya wanna get nostalgic go for Dynaco, or if ya have the money, older Mac, or CJ. etc (I had a CJ PV-3 and MV-45 back in the day and they were lovely) And yeah.....that seems to be tube vs SS. If ya want vintage SS...NAD, Adcom (yeah....the GFA-555 was pretty awesome....had 2) then of course the real Pass Lab stuff, maybe Hafler, & others, like Accuphase.