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Title: World Cup 2018
Post by: JerryM on 15 Jun 2018, 07:59 pm
My pick for the Cup, again, is Argentina.  :thumb:

There's some big games coming...    :D
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: Emil on 18 Jun 2018, 05:53 pm
Italy not qualifying is pretty pathetic. The team must be sequestered on some island off of Naples.
What is happening to their program? :Played horribly in the last World Cup and now this?

Team USA? Unfortunately, they're not given the attention they deserved. Must be discouraging when most of the country doesn't even know you exist let alone not qualify.

Well, my two teams are out...er......never in
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: charmerci on 18 Jun 2018, 06:25 pm
Italy not qualifying is pretty pathetic. The team must be sequestered on some island off of Naples.


I think right now, they are being beaten up in Sicily.
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: Bemopti123 on 18 Jun 2018, 08:45 pm
Italy not qualifying is pretty pathetic. The team must be sequestered on some island off of Naples.
What is happening to their program? :Played horribly in the last World Cup and now this?

Team USA? Unfortunately, they're not given the attention they deserved. Must be discouraging when most of the country doesn't even know you exist let alone not qualify.

Well, my two teams are out...er......never in

Big big news on all fronts, on all former #1 and #2.  Mexico beats Germany, Argentina ties with unknown Iceland.  This is what the World Cup is all about, passion and a big dose of Fortuna at work.  Brazil ties with the Swiss???  I mean the champs are either slacking or futbolistic level across the world has caught up with the world powers.
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: mcgsxr on 18 Jun 2018, 09:20 pm
I find the WC pure entertainment - I am not even a casual fan of "the beautiful game".

Canada has not often fielded a team.  Nor Ireland.

So I just tune in for the elimination rounds, and watch to see who the team that surprises folks and goes deeper than anticipated will be this time around.  Cameroon back in the late 80's etc.

Don't get me wrong, I understand why people are passionate about it, but I cannot get past the diving and acting.  It is foreign to me for the most part (though it is increasingly common in hockey and other sports).

The great goals amaze me, even though I cannot truly understand how hard it is to pull off!
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: Emil on 18 Jun 2018, 09:33 pm
Don't get me wrong, I understand why people are passionate about it, but I cannot get past the diving and acting.  It is foreign to me for the most part (though it is increasingly common in hockey and other sports).

Its just an attempt to make a minor infraction into a major penalty ( yellow or red card)
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: mcgsxr on 19 Jun 2018, 02:20 pm
Yes - I understand their intent - I fail to understand why it seems (to the admitted outsider) to be so central to the game.

I refer to it as the "opera" within the sport.  We all laugh about the magic water bottle/spray.
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: twitch54 on 19 Jun 2018, 04:52 pm
Team USA? Unfortunately, they're not given the attention they deserved. Must be discouraging when most of the country doesn't even know you exist let alone not qualify.

Like a lot of Americans I couldn't care less about the sport, but I do think are women are pretty good aren't they ?
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: opnly bafld on 19 Jun 2018, 09:26 pm
Yes - I understand their intent - I fail to understand why it seems (to the admitted outsider) to be so central to the game.

I refer to it as the "opera" within the sport.  We all laugh about the magic water bottle/spray.

Once you are subbed out, you are done for the day.
So after your "rest" time is up  (player  :argue: ref), better get after it.
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: JerryM on 20 Jun 2018, 01:14 am
Wow, Japan beats Columbia.  :o
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: Bemopti123 on 20 Jun 2018, 01:31 am
Wow, Japan beats Columbia.  :o

Japan has come a long way.  Colombia also.  It has sort of become a fixture among many South American powerhouses.  Brasil, Argentina and Uruguay are the perennial contenders, and once in a while Ecuador, Costa Rica but even Perú and also Panamá made the fray this year.

While many people in North America are not into it.... as someone who was raised on a steady diet of South American fútbol, every world cup is magical.  Everyone in NYC is always parading in their national team jerseys.   :thumb:
 
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: Mudslide on 20 Jun 2018, 04:14 am
I grew up involved with American football.  Soccer?  Uh uh.  I thought a 0-0 tie was 90 minutes of the most boring sports anyone could watch.

Then for some reason I started watching the Portland Timbers team...probably out of boredom for sports this time of year.  (I think baseball ranked a close second on the Boring Sports List.) 

Now?  Now I think a 0-0 tie in soccer can be one of the most exciting 90 minutes of sports one can watch!  Go figure.  I got hooked.  What a great game...artistic, athletic, strategic, and exciting!

Go Senegal.   :lol:
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: aragon63 on 21 Jun 2018, 06:58 pm
I have a feeling that Mexico will win WC . So far they played best soccer .
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: dpatters on 21 Jun 2018, 07:44 pm
Belgium hands down.  Argentina won't make it out of group play.
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: stlrman on 21 Jun 2018, 07:56 pm
Your right !!!
Croatia distroys them !!!
3-0
From the few minutes I saw , Argentina looked  totally outplayed.
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: Wind Chaser on 21 Jun 2018, 08:16 pm
I have a feeling that Mexico will win WC .

I hope you're right!  :thumb:
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: rbbert on 21 Jun 2018, 10:27 pm
I have a feeling that Mexico will win WC . So far they played best soccer .
I think their next game is key.  If they both play and well and win, I agree that would place them among the most likely contenders.  Unfortunately Mexico, like England, have a long history of disappointment over expectations.
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: Emil on 24 Jun 2018, 03:55 pm
Gotta love the Japanese :thumb:

 http://www.newsweek.com/polite-japan-fans-clean-stadium-after-world-cup-win-985533
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: JerryM on 27 Jun 2018, 12:32 am
Nice win for Argentina to move forward.  :thumb:
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: Delacroix on 27 Jun 2018, 02:06 am
One thing I've learned from decades of World Cups is that the opening qualifying group games rarely provide a reliable indicator of the way teams play in the knock-out rounds. While it's been great to see Mexico and England do well, I suspect that the Germans and Brazilians will start to impress more. Argentina escaped a near-death experience too (and Maradona had one of his own too it seems after giving everyone the finger when that winning goal went in!) and meet France next. Neither of those last two impressed so far but one of them will be in the quarter finals, two games from the final. My heart will cheer Mexico and England but my head tells me the final winner will likely be one of the usuals..Best outside bet? Belgium....
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: dig_a_pony on 27 Jun 2018, 09:29 am
I was rooting for Iceland, pity that they're already leaving. I'm not a big fan but it was fun to see unexpected outcomes in many games, kind of a shout out for all the teams to do their best every single game
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: Emil on 27 Jun 2018, 12:04 pm
I was rooting for Iceland, pity that they're already leaving. I'm not a big fan but it was fun to see unexpected outcomes in many games, kind of a shout out for all the teams to do their best every single game

Head coach is also a dentist :lol:
Interesting article on the team
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/soccer-insider/wp/2018/06/10/in-iceland-world-cup-players-arent-gods-theyre-neighbors/?utm_term=.a384832c13af
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: mcgsxr on 27 Jun 2018, 01:10 pm
Even as a guy that does not follow the sport, that goal by Messi was mesmerizing.  What a beautiful couple of touches on the run and then fading off the shot.  Wow!
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: Mudslide on 27 Jun 2018, 04:33 pm
Even as a guy that does not follow the sport, that goal by Messi was mesmerizing.  What a beautiful couple of touches on the run and then fading off the shot.  Wow!

'Twas a thing of beauty!  But, without seeing any replays, he sure looked off-sides to me.
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: Art_Chicago on 27 Jun 2018, 08:59 pm
Germany is out! The biggest sensation of the cup so far ...
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: JoshK on 27 Jun 2018, 09:10 pm
Commentator - "This will be the first time that Germany are knocked out of the group stage since 1938"

Other commentator - "And we know how the Germans reacted to that."


Officially the second most humiliating German retreat from Russia.

Seriously though, I am a big German football supporter (Bayern Munich for a club), but they deserved to loose.   Out of the 3 games, the only half-way decent half was the 2nd half against Sweden when Kroos scored one of the best free kicks I've seen in a while.  I will happily route for Mexico (rep' Concacaf), Croatia (my dark horse) or mildly Belgium & Colombia.
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: Art_Chicago on 27 Jun 2018, 09:25 pm
Agreed that they deserve the elimination as it was just a shadow of the team that won the world cup 4 years ago.
Hope that the second biggest sensation will be on Sunday when Russia beats Spain  :D
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: klaus@odyssey on 28 Jun 2018, 08:34 am
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Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: Emil on 28 Jun 2018, 11:15 am
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Not exactly sure what this means but I would dare to guess Klaus is not happy with Germany losing :D
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: macrojack on 28 Jun 2018, 12:45 pm
Not exactly sure what this means but I would dare to guess Klaus is not happy with Germany losing :D
Astute speculation. But considering that nearly everything else in the news is upside down, demonstrably false or indefensible, I'm able to absorb the hierarchical inversion of World Cup expectations rather easily. This too shall pass, Klaus. At least you have the comfort of disappointment. Most of us have never had a sniff of the trophy and cannot foresee a time when we might.
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: dig_a_pony on 28 Jun 2018, 03:57 pm
Head coach is also a dentist :lol:
Interesting article on the team
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/soccer-insider/wp/2018/06/10/in-iceland-world-cup-players-arent-gods-theyre-neighbors/?utm_term=.a384832c13af
yeah that's what I like about them! they are normal people who love the game and can play well
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: Art_Chicago on 28 Jun 2018, 06:10 pm
Japan is in and Senegal is out because of the number of the yellow cards... Man, this world cup RULES!
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: Art_Chicago on 2 Jul 2018, 01:54 am

Hope that the second biggest sensation will be on Sunday when Russia beats Spain  :D

 :smoke: :thumb:
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: macrojack on 2 Jul 2018, 08:52 am
I think I'm seeing how Russia will win the World Cup. They plan to reduce scoring by the opposition by knocking them down, tripping them, taking them out by any means necessary if they are in position to score. In the games I've seen, Russia cannot get called for fouls in the box. They intend to win the whole thing on penalty kicks.
In yesterday's game against Spain even the goal scored accidentally by Espana, the Spanish player was tackled on the goal line as the feed was headed his way. The score came from a ricochet off the Russian tackler's leg, making it an own goal. Spain never put a ball in the net. Expect shutouts from Russia henceforth. Their strategy seems to be to win it all on penalty kicks.
How do you suppose they manage to draw refs who look the other way?
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: Emil on 2 Jul 2018, 12:39 pm
I think I'm seeing how Russia will win the World Cup. They plan to reduce scoring by the opposition by knocking them down, tripping them, taking them out by any means necessary if they are in position to score. In the games I've seen, Russia cannot get called for fouls in the box. They intend to win the whole thing on penalty kicks.
In yesterday's game against Spain even the goal scored accidentally by Espana, the Spanish player was tackled on the goal line as the feed was headed his way. The score came from a ricochet off the Russian tackler's leg, making it an own goal. Spain never put a ball in the net. Expect shutouts from Russia henceforth. Their strategy seems to be to win it all on penalty kicks.
How do you suppose they manage to draw refs who look the other way?

I noticed that also. The last one was even reviewed. Spanish player was obviously pulled down.

Must be some sort of collusion going on  between Russia and the refs :lol:
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: macrojack on 2 Jul 2018, 01:01 pm
I noticed that also. The last one was even reviewed. Spanish player was obviously pulled down.

Must be some sort of collusion going on  between Russia and the refs :lol:
Everyone in Russia knows you either satisfy Vlad or die trying.
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: Art_Chicago on 2 Jul 2018, 03:25 pm
I noticed that also. The last one was even reviewed. Spanish player was obviously pulled down.

Must be some sort of collusion going on  between Russia and the refs :lol:

I guess I was watching a different game... Anyone who is familiar with Sergio Ramos&Co knows the quality of acting and diving they can demonstrate.   They grab the shirt, they hug and then they go down as the ball is approaching.  Glad that video review showed that and no faults on the defensive side.

Spain has not created enough chances, and De Gea did not stop at least 2 savable PKs. 

Hope that Russia-Croatia game will be a better game to watch. After all, these are 2nd and 3rd most scoring teams of the cup so far.
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: charmerci on 2 Jul 2018, 03:37 pm
It's looking like the real final will be France-Brazil. Whoever wins that will win the Cup in the next game.
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: Art_Chicago on 2 Jul 2018, 04:14 pm
It's looking like the real final will be France-Brazil. Whoever wins that will win the Cup in the next game.

true if Brazil can beat Belgium, which is a very balanced team this year

Unfortunately, the top 4 teams of the tournament ( Uruguay, France, Brazil and Belgium) are on the same side of the bracket. It gives a good chance for England or Croatia to make the final.
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: charmerci on 2 Jul 2018, 05:03 pm
I didn't know that Uru and Belgium were that good.
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: Delacroix on 2 Jul 2018, 06:33 pm
This is an amazing chance for England to make a real impression....of course, their history suggests they'll mess it up but the gods of the draw have been kind to them. Spain's departure is giving everyone there optimism, so cue a disaster shortly, LOL.
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: Tomy2Tone on 2 Jul 2018, 07:57 pm
Don’t know much about soccer, other than put the ball in the net, but I’ve been thoroughly enjoying the World Cup thus far. Japan/Belgium was just awesome right now. That last goal by Belgium was like an NBA fast break. Wish more teams played aggressive like these two just did.
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: Art_Chicago on 2 Jul 2018, 08:42 pm
Don’t know much about soccer, other than put the ball in the net, but I’ve been thoroughly enjoying the World Cup thus far. Japan/Belgium was just awesome right now. That last goal by Belgium was like an NBA fast break. Wish more teams played aggressive like these two just did.

Agreed! coming back from 2:0 was a pure class from the Belgians.  Brazil will have tough time beating this team now.
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: Delacroix on 2 Jul 2018, 08:47 pm
Excellent game....Japan played well and made the Belgians really work for it - that last goal was some move, at first I was disappointed at missing the chance of extra time, did not want game to end. But this is why we love the game.
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: CanadianMaestro on 2 Jul 2018, 09:08 pm
Japan deserved a better fate.

I fear the actual Final may be a letdown, given what's already transpired - France/Argentina, and today's Belgium debacle were superbly played. May it continue.... :popcorn:
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: Art_Chicago on 3 Jul 2018, 07:05 pm
Today is pretty boring so far.  Hope either England or Columbia steps up
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: Ron D on 3 Jul 2018, 08:25 pm
England were ahead 1-0 until 3 minutes into stoppage time when Colombia tied it up. Into extra time we go!
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: CanadianMaestro on 3 Jul 2018, 10:23 pm
England!!!!
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: Mudslide on 3 Jul 2018, 11:00 pm
England!!!!

I believe the boys were taking lessons from Shakespeare.  ...  Or Neymar.   :lol:  An out of control game, IMO.
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: CanadianMaestro on 3 Jul 2018, 11:05 pm
It got a touch ugly...too much play acting, for sure.
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: JerryM on 4 Jul 2018, 01:25 am
If you haven't seen this play, or even if you can't stand soccer, check out this header-goal from Belgium yesterday. This will be on sports highlight reels for decades to come.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4NfyPeDcPU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4NfyPeDcPU)
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: rbbert on 4 Jul 2018, 12:19 pm
Today is pretty boring so far.  Hope either England or Columbia steps up
??
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: macrojack on 4 Jul 2018, 01:22 pm
??
Not enough touchdowns, I reckon. Or maybe not enough commercial breaks? No cheerleaders? Whatever was boring Art, escaped my notice. Large number of yellow cards and shots on goal, great goalkeeping on both sides. Admittedly it was only a very good game until Mina headed his goal in with mere seconds left on the clock - - - from that point forth, it was magnificent.
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: Tomy2Tone on 4 Jul 2018, 01:25 pm
If you haven't seen this play, or even if you can't stand soccer, check out this header-goal from Belgium yesterday. This will be on sports highlight reels for decades to come.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4NfyPeDcPU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4NfyPeDcPU)

That was incredible. Even if it was intended to be a pass or setup I’m sure he told everybody “I totally meant that!” 
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: Doublej on 4 Jul 2018, 01:47 pm
It's heartening to see there are still gentlemanly sports where good manners count. 
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: Tomy2Tone on 4 Jul 2018, 01:50 pm
It's heartening to see there are still gentlemanly sports where good manners count.

I saw this yesterday...

https://people.com/sports/japan-cleans-locker-room-leaves-thank-you-note-world-cup-loss/
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: JerryM on 4 Jul 2018, 07:15 pm
That was incredible. Even if it was intended to be a pass or setup I’m sure he told everybody “I totally meant that!”

He did mean it. Check out the shot in this video. Start at about 15 seconds and watch him at 16 seconds. Just keep clicking that 15-second spot, over and over. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2ZToI-p8GA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2ZToI-p8GA)

It's a legitimate shot on goal.  :o
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: Art_Chicago on 5 Jul 2018, 02:33 am
Not enough touchdowns, I reckon. Or maybe not enough commercial breaks? No cheerleaders? Whatever was boring Art, escaped my notice. Large number of yellow cards and shots on goal, great goalkeeping on both sides. Admittedly it was only a very good game until Mina headed his goal in with mere seconds left on the clock - - - from that point forth, it was magnificent.

what is a touchdown??

Anyway the first half of the England-Columbia game was as good as the Sweden-Switzerland game that took place earlier that day (and that is when i posted it) 

Swe-Swi game should have ended zero-zero, and if the penalty kicks score were 0-0 it would not surprise me :D

Kane acted nicely to get the PK for England, and it was quite entertaining.

Now England is facing Sweden in 1/4 and that is going to be even more boring...

The blockbusters are coming up on Friday, though. Any of these two games should have been a final.

Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: Art_Chicago on 6 Jul 2018, 08:27 pm
Brazil is out! What a game!
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: macrojack on 6 Jul 2018, 09:44 pm
Brazil is out! What a game!
Great game, indeed! Now the western hemisphere has been completely eliminated. Of the remaining 6, Russia is the only team not in Europe. I was going to say, "in the EU" but then I remembered Brexit.
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: EkW on 7 Jul 2018, 12:39 am
I am hoping for a first timer to win, so no France or England. I think that Belgium has what it takes to win this time. I am glad that I live in a city with a Telemundo station so that I can listen to excitable announcers. Slightly bummed that next weeks games aren't early because on pacifiac time one can watch the game or the first half and not miss much work.
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: FullRangeMan on 7 Jul 2018, 12:56 am
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Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: charmerci on 7 Jul 2018, 01:37 am
I am hoping for a first timer to win, so no France or England. I think that Belgium has what it takes to win this time. I am glad that I live in a city with a Telemundo station so that I can listen to excitable announcers. Slightly bummed that next weeks games aren't early because on pacifiac time one can watch the game or the first half and not miss much work.


Well, once each in '66 and '98. I'm good with any of the other teams winning the Cup, too.
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: pelked1 on 7 Jul 2018, 05:52 am
Who else is glad that Brazil is out?? For some reason, I like it when the favorite is out, especially when they are the favorite often.
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: Art_Chicago on 10 Jul 2018, 11:46 pm
Stunning goalkeeping today during the France-Belgium game.  These two guys are awesome-- gotta be the best goalies of the cup.
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: charmerci on 11 Jul 2018, 01:06 am
Who else is glad that Brazil is out?? For some reason, I like it when the favorite is out, especially when they are the favorite often.


I like to see new teams win championships - though I am very partial to France (ancestory and have spent quite a bit of time there too.)


However, Brazilians are obsessed with soccer and given the often general mess of the country - it is one of the things that the down and out can celebrate whereas the better off countries do have much more going for the general public.
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: Emil on 12 Jul 2018, 02:26 pm

All the stories have been told
Of kings and days of old,
But there's no england now.

Heard this on the Sopranos the other night. Great Kinks song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsLhNxzwK1Y


Go Croatia!
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: Mudslide on 12 Jul 2018, 08:22 pm


Go Croatia!

Let me fix that for you, Emil.  It's GO CROATIA!!

  :D
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: Audiovista on 13 Jul 2018, 01:17 pm
GO CROATIA!!

  :D

 :thumb:
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: Emil on 14 Jul 2018, 03:32 pm
It's not whether you win or lose. It's how you play the game?

Not in Brazil :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kgHozd5PNY


or Saudi Arabia

http://vidmax.com/video/177463-OUCH-Saudi-Arabian-s-Turn-on-Their-World-Cup-Soccer-Team-after-They-Failed-to-Win

http://www.gulf-insider.com/saudi-arabia-football-team-face-punishment-return-world-cup/
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: Audiovista on 14 Jul 2018, 05:13 pm
Brazil deserved it but Saudi Arabia... looks like they need reality check when it comes to expectations on the soccer field.
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: JerryM on 15 Jul 2018, 03:53 pm
At half time, I'm pleased to have learned how to say "dumbass" in Croatian.  :wink:
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: Audiovista on 15 Jul 2018, 03:59 pm
 :lol:

Weird first half of the game.
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: Emil on 15 Jul 2018, 04:08 pm
:lol:

Weird first half of the game.

Croatia looks like the better team. They will prevail :thumb:

Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: Emil on 15 Jul 2018, 04:18 pm

Croatia looks like the better team. They will prevail :thumb:

maybe not :(
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: Woodsea on 15 Jul 2018, 05:02 pm
France deserved the win.  Croatia outplayed them but the French played very smart except for the pass back to the goalie who thought he could dribble.

Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: Emil on 15 Jul 2018, 05:04 pm
Kolinda Grabar-Kitarović.
President of Croatia
Damn! :o

(https://www.onlinenigeria.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/photos-of-the-croatian-president-kolinda-grabar-kitarovic-that-are-causing-stir-on-social-media-2.jpg)
Title: Re: World Cup 2018
Post by: aragon63 on 15 Jul 2018, 05:38 pm
Kolinda Grabar-Kitarović.
President of Croatia
Damn! :o

(https://www.onlinenigeria.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/photos-of-the-croatian-president-kolinda-grabar-kitarovic-that-are-causing-stir-on-social-media-2.jpg)

It's not her....

https://www.reckontalk.com/hottest-croatian-president-kolinda-grabar-kitarovic-coco-austin/ (https://www.reckontalk.com/hottest-croatian-president-kolinda-grabar-kitarovic-coco-austin/)