BDP-2 Digital Player

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Re: BDP-2 Digital Player
« Reply #380 on: 24 May 2013, 04:42 pm »
Can the BPD-2 be operated via RS-232? And if so, does anyone know where to get the codes?

And if not, how about the IR codes?

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« Reply #381 on: 24 May 2013, 04:47 pm »
I can't read. :(

On the BDP settings page, is clearly states (in red no less), "*These settings (above) should not be changed unless otherwse advised to do so."

I tinkered with it before I read that. Can anyone tell me what the MPD version should be set at by default?

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« Reply #382 on: 24 May 2013, 04:51 pm »
I can't read. :(

On the BDP settings page, is clearly states (in red no less), "*These settings (above) should not be changed unless otherwse advised to do so."

I tinkered with it before I read that. Can anyone tell me what the MPD version should be set at by default?

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« Reply #383 on: 25 May 2013, 07:49 am »
Thanks James!

I noticed two things in Max2 tonight.

1) Is there any way to list music by album title or song title (rather than artist) in the far right pane?

2) In that far right pane, artists are sorted alphabetically. "a-ha" shows up dead last though. My best guess is that it has something to do with the sort algorithm. Possibly because the ASCII value of "A" is 65, "Z" has a value of 90, and the value of "a" is 97. Thus, lower case "a" comes after upper case "Z"? That could be fixed by having the algorithm strip case values or by checking for all values between 97 and 122 ("z"), and subtracting 32, then sorting.

 The other possibility I thought of was the algorithm seeing "a-ha" as "a" minus "ha", which would have a value than zero, causing it to loop back to 255 (assuming the variable is stored as a positive integer only).

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Re: BDP-2 Digital Player
« Reply #384 on: 25 May 2013, 09:47 am »
Thanks James!

I noticed two things in Max2 tonight.

1) Is there any way to list music by album title or song title (rather than artist) in the far right pane?

2) In that far right pane, artists are sorted alphabetically. "a-ha" shows up dead last though. My best guess is that it has something to do with the sort algorithm. Possibly because the ASCII value of "A" is 65, "Z" has a value of 90, and the value of "a" is 97. Thus, lower case "a" comes after upper case "Z"? That could be fixed by having the algorithm strip case values or by checking for all values between 97 and 122 ("z"), and subtracting 32, then sorting.

 The other possibility I thought of was the algorithm seeing "a-ha" as "a" minus "ha", which would have a value than zero, causing it to loop back to 255 (assuming the variable is stored as a positive integer only).

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Hi,

You are way over my head on this one so i will defer to Chris on this one.

james

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Re: BDP-2 Digital Player
« Reply #385 on: 26 May 2013, 05:32 am »
Can the BPD-2 be operated via RS-232? And if so, does anyone know where to get the codes?

And if not, how about the IR codes?

Hi Grit,

Yes it can, and here are the RS232 HEX codes:

Play   0000 006D 0000 0012 0049 000B 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0049 0049 000B 0049 000B 000B 0049 0049 000B 000B 0049 000B 0049 0049 000B 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0298

Pause   0000 006D 0000 0012 0049 000B 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0049 0049 000B 0049 000B 000B 0049 0049 000B 000B 0049 000B 0049 0049 000B 0049 000B 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0298

Stop   0000 006D 0000 0012 0049 000B 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0049 0049 000B 0049 000B 000B 0049 0049 000B 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0049 0049 000B 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0298

Skip Forward   0000 006D 0000 0012 0049 000B 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0049 0049 000B 0049 000B 000B 0049 0049 000B 000B 0049 000B 0049 0049 000B 000B 0049 0049 000B 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0298

Skip Reverse   0000 006D 0000 0012 0049 000B 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0049 0049 000B 0049 000B 000B 0049 0049 000B 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0049 0049 000B 0049 000B 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0298

Menu Up   0000 006D 0000 0012 0049 000B 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0049 0049 000B 0049 000B 000B 0049 0049 000B 000B 0049 000B 0049 0049 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0298

Menu Down   0000 006D 0000 0012 0049 000B 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0049 0049 000B 0049 000B 000B 0049 0049 000B 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0049 0049 000B 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0298

Menu Right   0000 006D 0000 0012 0049 000B 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0049 0049 000B 0049 000B 000B 0049 0049 000B 000B 0049 000B 0049 0049 000B 000B 0049 000B 0049 0049 000B 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0298

Menu Left   0000 006D 0000 0012 0049 000B 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0049 0049 000B 0049 000B 000B 0049 0049 000B 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0049 0049 000B 000B 0049 0049 000B 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0049 000B 0298

Enjoy !

Rich.

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Re: BDP-2 Digital Player
« Reply #386 on: 26 May 2013, 10:45 pm »
James,

Been doing research on DSD, and I would appreciate it if you could please confirm my understanding; the BDP-1 will not be able to play DSD files, however the BDP-2 can be programmed to.  Is that correct?

The reason I'm asking is the DAC that I use and really like can now be upgraded to be able to play DSD through USB.  Currently I'm only buying PCM hi rez downloads and playing through the BDP-1, but because of the availability of the new DSD upgrade on my DAC, my interest in DSD is heightened (the debate goes on about which is better, PCM or DSD, and I'm willing to spend a certain amount of money to listen to both and hear what I enjoy).

Just for my own planning and organization, is there a timeline for DSD integration that you are in a position to share?  I am perfectly happy to stay with the BDP-1 for a while and play PCM and internet radio (Radio Paradise ROCKS!) while connecting my Mac and playing DSD from there.  However if DSD on the BDP-2 is scheduled, and there is a timeline, it would let me know when I might need to replace my BDP-1 with the BDP-2.

Thanks,

Mike

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Re: BDP-2 Digital Player
« Reply #387 on: 27 May 2013, 09:18 am »
James,

Been doing research on DSD, and I would appreciate it if you could please confirm my understanding; the BDP-1 will not be able to play DSD files, however the BDP-2 can be programmed to.  Is that correct?

The reason I'm asking is the DAC that I use and really like can now be upgraded to be able to play DSD through USB.  Currently I'm only buying PCM hi rez downloads and playing through the BDP-1, but because of the availability of the new DSD upgrade on my DAC, my interest in DSD is heightened (the debate goes on about which is better, PCM or DSD, and I'm willing to spend a certain amount of money to listen to both and hear what I enjoy).

Just for my own planning and organization, is there a timeline for DSD integration that you are in a position to share?  I am perfectly happy to stay with the BDP-1 for a while and play PCM and internet radio (Radio Paradise ROCKS!) while connecting my Mac and playing DSD from there.  However if DSD on the BDP-2 is scheduled, and there is a timeline, it would let me know when I might need to replace my BDP-1 with the BDP-2.

Thanks,

Mike

Hi Mike

The DAC chips (AKM)  in the BDA-2 DAC are capable od DSD but we have not implemented it yet. As you say there are still some issues around DSD and we are looking at it in detail.  As for the BDP-2 we are working on new software and we are reasonable sure we will be able to get it to output DSD as well but at this point I can not make any promises.

james

 

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Re: BDP-2 Digital Player
« Reply #388 on: 27 May 2013, 03:14 pm »
James,

Thanks for the quick reply.  So it seems like DSD is a ways out for you and that is fine.  I am taking small steps to integrate DSD into the way I listen to music and I don't know where that stands yet as far as how much I will like it.  The BDP-1 is really great for me and it's not a big deal to use my remote to switch to another input on my DAC to hear DSD.  I'll keep in touch and let you know what I find out about how much I like listening to DSD recordings.  It may very well be that it will sound similar to PCM, or even if it seems to me to be really great it may only be a very small group of people who care about it.  Right now DSD is additive to my system. All I have to do is switch an input on my DAC and run it from my computer.  It does not compete with or get in the way of how I use the BDP-1.

Mike

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Re: BDP-2 Digital Player
« Reply #389 on: 27 May 2013, 11:36 pm »
Hi

USB is a 2-way system so can be used in either direction with the appropriate software.

james

Thanks James.  Thats great to know.  Are all the USB connectors on the BDP-2 capable of operating in output mode or only certain one's ie- the one's at the back of the unit?

I have an AMR-DP777 dac and would like to connect to it via the USB output from the BDP-2.

thanks
Joe

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« Reply #390 on: 28 May 2013, 12:54 am »
Thanks James.  Thats great to know.  Are all the USB connectors on the BDP-2 capable of operating in output mode or only certain one's ie- the one's at the back of the unit?

I have an AMR-DP777 dac and would like to connect to it via the USB output from the BDP-2.

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Joe

Any of the USB's can be used as an output.

James

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Re: BDP-2 Digital Player
« Reply #391 on: 30 May 2013, 11:38 pm »
Hi

USB is a 2-way system so can be used in either direction with the appropriate software.

james
I just tried it between the BDP and the BDA using a spare USB cable.  It doesn't sound as good as the audiophile grade SPDIF and AES/EBU cables I have but now I'm curious about what a Cardas USB cable would sound like.  It's not going to be as good as the balanced cable but I wonder if it would give the SPDIF cable some competition. 

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Re: BDP-2 Digital Player
« Reply #392 on: 1 Jun 2013, 05:59 pm »
Rs232 control was disabled during our testing of turning the BDP into a consumer oriented smart home system.  However can be re-enabled by entering the following into the startup script.

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/bin/bash
/sbin/getty -l /bin/brystonpanel.pl -L 9600 -n ttyS0 vt100 &

As for the way max 2 sorts, it simply does so by alphabetical order and lower case does come after upper case.  If you set a scratch drive and if you are running S1.60 or newer you will have access to the album sort view found as a button (cd jewel case) in the upper right corner of max 2.

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« Reply #393 on: 1 Jun 2013, 09:02 pm »
Chris, which steps do you recommend for adding music files and metadata to MAX2? Can it import data from the iTunes folders, or link to those folders and files, or does one need to create a new folder in the Mac directory and duplicate files?

Also, do you have any thoughts on Amarra or PureMusic?

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« Reply #394 on: 4 Jun 2013, 02:23 am »
Hi Rich,

I'm unfamiliar with either of those programs.  In regards to your iTunes question, if your using a desktop and if you feel comfortable with it I would just share the iTunes music library folder.  Any changes you make in iTunes will be populated by the BDP after telling the BDP to do a database update.  You may not get cover art though as iTunes stores it in a separate database.

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Chris

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« Reply #395 on: 4 Jun 2013, 03:05 am »
You may not get cover art though as iTunes stores it in a separate database.

If you use a third party ripping program the album artwork will be stored within the file, and when imported into iTunes, will not be stored in the iTunes database.

However, iTunes does store album artwork in its own database if either

a.  The artwork is automatically downloaded by iTunes from the Gracenote Internet database during ripping (or if the Get Album Artwork command is manually executed)

OR

b.  The file type does not support metadata tagging, such as .WAV files

If you manually paste artwork into the Get Info > Artwork field, the artwork is stored within the file.  This gives you a simple workaround to convert artwork that was stored in the iTunes database to be stored within the file itself (again, unless it is a .WAV file).

The procedure is

1.  Select the Album from the Album View
2.  Select any song from the album and click File > Get Info (or Command + i on Mac; Ctrl + i on Windows)
3.  Copy the album art from the field on the Artwork tab, then cancel the dialog
4.  Select the Album again and Get Info.  When selecting multiple songs (as in selecting an album), the Artwork field is smaller and located on the Info tab (there is no Artwork tab)
5.  Paste the album artwork you previously copied into the Artwork field, then click OK.
6.  The album artwork will now be stored in the song file itself

Its pretty fast once you've done it a couple times, so it depends on how many albums you need to do this to.

Steve

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Re: BDP-2 Digital Player
« Reply #396 on: 4 Jun 2013, 02:46 pm »
MEMO: To All Bryston Customers                                                                                                             
SUBJECT: Bryston BDP-2/BDA-2 Review HP Soundings


Hi Folks,

Please see below a link to a review on the new Bryston BDP-2 Digital Player and BDA-2 DAC

The review is from ‘HP Soundings’ which is Harry Pearson’s (from Absolute Sound Magazine fame) new online magazine. 

http://www.hpsoundings.com/2013/06/review-bryston-bdabdp-2/

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Re: BDP-2 Digital Player
« Reply #397 on: 4 Jun 2013, 04:09 pm »
Nice review.  Good job and congrats, James.

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« Reply #398 on: 4 Jun 2013, 04:42 pm »
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Congratulations on yet another stellar review, James. As an owner of the BDP-2 and BDA-2, the observations and conclusions that Mr. McCallum presents in his cogent and well written article ring true. These components offer accuracy, resolution, power, and most of all engagement that I had not heretofore experienced with my system.

I had avoided digital downloads and computer-based audio because of technical complexities, noise/interference, and other interface problems. The BDP-2 solved all that. I use a hardwired gigabit connection to our Mac network, and management of the 500gb SSD I installed in the player is clear and logical. When I ran into a couple of technical glitches, Chris Rice worked his magic, spending over an hour on the phone with me to resolve matters.

One matter meriting further attention is the expandability of both components. The multiplicity of connections in the BDA-2 and the BDP-2 offer impressive versatility, and the increased power of the BDP-2 presents users wishing to control vast digital libraries with the resources to do so.

Now all we need is the BOT-1! Of course, we're all waiting patiently.  :hyper:

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« Reply #399 on: 5 Jun 2013, 04:40 am »
I have two drives connected to by BDP-2. One is an OCZ Vector 256GB SSD (NTFS), one of the fastest in production today. I also have a 16GB USB 3.0 thumb drive (VFAT) connected (trying to determine if/what the scratch drive will do).

Under the settings, I can benchmark both drives. The OCZ drive comes back at 8.9MB/sec. The thumb drive comes back at 57MB/sec.

The SSD should run circles around the USB thumb drive. I have the 512BG version of that same SSD in my desktop computer, and it runs at a good 500+ MB/sec.

I copied a few new CD rips over to the SSD via Windows, and sure enough, the data rate is about 7-8MB/sec. I copied the same files over to my Windows Home Server 2011 machine, where the hard drives are all Western Digital Cavier Red drives, and the throughput was over 50MB/sec. I'm a little frustrated that I invested in a faster SSD only to find out that the throughput is about 1/10th of what it should be over my network, and that its outpaced by a $20 USB thumb drive.

Whats causing the dramatic difference?