Von Schweikert VR2 Modification Review - Part 2 with photos and charts

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WGH

I have owned the Von Schweikert VR2's for a year and have gotten to know their sound which in stock form is very good, but they can be modified to sound much, much better.

Technical Info

The VR2's are set up on the short wall of a 11' x 15' x 9' high room, driver centers are 47" from the front wall, 90" center-to-center, and slightly toed in. The room is well damped with carpeted wood floor, a couch, and large leather chair with ottoman. Electronics include an AVA Insight 440 amp, AVA Insight+ EC pre-amp, Cornet2 phono pre-amp, a Harmon/Kardon T55C with power supply mod and a Goldring 1042 cartridge. Digital is performed by computer .wav files --> HagUSB --> AVA Insight DAC.

The Speaker

The VR2 is a 2.5 way floor standing speaker that has a 25Hz low frequency response, which is unique for a speaker this size.  Each VR2 is loaded with 40 lbs a lead shot/silica sand mix. Before the modifications, the knuckle rap test on the side of the VR2's revealed the side panels were not as dead as my modified JBL 88's so more internal bracing looked like a good place to start.

The VR2's are not a traditional transmission line speaker, except for a couple of braces in the middle and an awful lot of stuffing it is basically an empty box. Stuffing fills the upper half of the speaker from the the middle midrange speaker up to the top The bottom midrange/woofer is the only speaker directly open to the port, as you can see below the speaker magnets are also different sizes.



The Modifications

Adding braces is very easy and highly recommended. The triangular walnut braces are 14 1/4" long, 1 1/2" high at the peak, and 1" thick. I also made a couple heavier red oak triangular braces (not shown) for the woofer section. The triangle shape take up less volume, has a non-parallel face, and are thick in the middle where the speaker sides need the most dampening. Each speaker has 8 braces installed, which measured out to 3 1/2" between each brace. I used three dabs of hot melt glue and Titebond III. The hot melt glue acted as a clamp until the Titebond dried and made a permanent bond.





The bottom woofer brace had to be installed through the terminal porthole which gave me a chance to check out the crossover. The entire crossover is in a plastic tub and filled with epoxy resin, no user replaceable parts here. I won't be playing with exotic caps with this speaker.

After installing the braces make sure the top stuffing is back up where it should be and there is a clear open path from the bottom woofer to the port. The stuffing is not glued in and should be checked anyway even if you decide not to modify the speaker, shipping shakes it lose and moves it around.

The Results

After completion, the first thing I noticed was the presentation. Music is now more focused with the center image locked in place. Midrange is clearer, there is more "there" there and the 125 Hz bump where the male voice is centered is less prominent, the main reason for the mod.

At first listen the bass may seem lighter, but only because cabinet resonances are attenuated. The bass is now tighter and just as deep and full as before the mod. Saguaro, the first cut on the excellent Ron Carter album Piccolo (vinyl) has a duet with Ron carter on the piccolo bass and Buster Williams on the double bass; both musicians are playing the same notes at the same time, with the double bass notes being felt just as much as being heard just under the piccolo bass.

The 1987 album Yello One Second has synth and bass notes that should pressurize your whole room, and after the mod it still does. Get the vinyl, a friend has the cd and it is flat and dead sounding compared to the record.

The tightened up midrange make trumpets and saxophones punch right through, just as they should. If you can find the Jazz Heritage vinyl re-issues of Miles Davis's early albums you are in for a treat. Dead quiet, excellent dynamics, and wonderful music too. Relaxin' with the Miles Davis Quintet sounds like Miles, John Coltrane, Red Garland, Paul Chambers, and Philly Joe Jones are playing in your living room. The VR2's do not have a hyper-detailed presentation but make music that draws you in.

12/30/07 Update: I added more bracing inside the cabinet, short horizontal wood braces between the side walls connecting the each triangular brace to the one on the opposite side, if you could see inside it would look like a ladder. The bass is now much more forceful because the cabinet sides no longer flex and absorb the energy. The more forceful bass was a little too much of a good thing so I stuffed more Kapok behind the middle woofer and added 1 oz. behind the lower woofer. The final sound is definitely a WOW!


 

Measurements

Of course some in room measurements would demonstrate what I hear, so I did some tests with the free Room EQ Wizard software from the Home Theater Shack using a Radio Shack 33-2050 sound level meter. You can manually plot your own curves or run a cable from the meter to your computer the results then are completely automatic.

I set up the meter at the location where my head would be when listening, set the volume to 75-80dB with a 1000Hz test tone at C weighting and did some tests both before the mod and after.






8/16/08 - The speaker locations have changed since I made the above graphs, so I made some new measurements.

20-300 Hz, 1/24 octave



20-300 Hz waterfall plot



20-9,000 Hz, 1/3 octave



Rear Ambiance Tweeter Enhancement

I came up with the idea (as far as I know) of these simple ambiance enhancers for speakers that have a rear ambiance tweeter.

In my listening room, half of the sound of the ambiance tweeter is absorbed by carpeting and turning up the level overpowered the front speakers. I figured room ambiance is supposed to be up, not down around my feet, so I designed a stick on diffuser that redirects some of the sound back up. The ambiance level is enhanced, easily filling the space behind the speaker resulting in an increased sense of depth and a slightly more focused image as a bonus.




Tweeter Defraction Controller

Imaging is enhanced by using a 3/8" foam high frequency defraction controller. The custom shape allows the grills to be installed when needed.




Woofer Damping

While I was ordering an Insight DAC, Frank Van Alstine said damping my speakers with PlastiClay would improve their sound. As I had already opened the VR2's many times adding more damping to the speaker baskets was easy. I used about 1/3 lbs. per speaker.



Frank first wrote about this tweak in the very first Audio Basics newsletter, Volume One Number One, January 1982, which is still available on the AVA website, and it is still as valid today as it was 26 years ago.

The results were just as Frank described with the sound now clearer, less colored, quicker, and smoother.

While playing with the clay I also noticed the housing around the magnet rang like a bell when struck, so I wrapped the housing with some left over VB-2 vibration damping material.

This is a great, cheap way to spend an afternoon and you will be pleasantly surprised at the end of the day with how much clearer your speakers sound.


Jumper Replacement

I get a smoother, cleaner sound by simply replacing the chrome plated jumpers with homemade wire jumpers. I used 3-5" lengths of 18 gauge hookup wire from Radio Shack braided together, but any wire will work.






Conclusion

I am happy with the modifications. The cost was close to zero and the results are well worth the effort and exceeded my expectations. Highly Recommended!

Resources and further reading

Part 1
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=40953.0

Part 3 Triple wall laminate modifications
https://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=72808.msg683847#msg683847

Room EQ Wizard
http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/bfd-rew-forum/

Review with interesting comments by Albert Von Schweikert
http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/speakers/floorstanding/von-schweikert-vr2


Wayne

 edit 5-25-2020 - broken links fixed
« Last Edit: 13 Aug 2020, 05:38 pm by WGH »

mfsoa

Re: Von Schweikert VR2 Review - Part 2 (long)
« Reply #1 on: 31 Aug 2007, 07:20 pm »
Wayne,
Nicely done and a good write-up.
As the owner of the VR4JR Mk I, I have also noticed that the cabinet has some ring to it when rapped and was thinking about adding some damping. You have given me some info to chew on.

I've read that adding contact enhancer to the speaker terminals can be a nice tweak - Did you do anything to the drivers when you had them out?

Thanks again for all the great info!

-Mike

WGH

Re: Von Schweikert VR2 Review - Part 2 (long)
« Reply #2 on: 31 Aug 2007, 07:47 pm »
Wayne,
Nicely done and a good write-up...

I've read that adding contact enhancer to the speaker terminals can be a nice tweak - Did you do anything to the drivers when you had them out?

-Mike

Thanks Mike,

Oops, forgot all about the contact enhancer. I have a full can of DeoxIT and ProGold waiting for something to use it on. The internal wires clip onto the speakers so I will do those and the speaker wire connections. Something to do this weekend.

jimdgoulding

« Last Edit: 21 Oct 2009, 10:37 pm by jimdgoulding »


WGH

Part 3 featuring my version of the high density triple layer cabinet damping can be read here:
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=72808.msg683847;topicseen#new

Wayne

rich58b

Wayne,
I'm a new owner of a pair of VR 2's, and loving them.   I'm curious about the wiring you show in the photo on this page, where you are using your home made jumpers, and two sets of wires to the upper terminals.  Is this bi-wired but to the same terminals?  I'm curious as to the advantages.  Thanks,
Rich

WGH

I don't know if my setup would be called bi-wired or double run, all the wires go to a single stereo amp. The amp is 25' from the speakers and the bass is a little attenuated with just the Kimber 4VS hooked up. The 14 gauge from monoprice seemed a little rolled off in the highs, the combination works great. Why are they both connected to the top terminals? Because I like it that way, it sounds great.

Wayne

rich58b

Thanks Wayne,
I've only had mine a couple of weeks and I'm interested in trying various hookups etc.  I've tried working in a Velodyne sub and have decided they're just much better without it.  I still can't believe how good the bottom end is on these speakers.

Indiansprings

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I had Wayne mod mine last year. I originally picked them up from a guy locally and was a little concerned with how I was going to integrate my Velodyne sub with them. They will surly need it with those little 6.5" woofers. That's what I was thinking right.
After the work Wayne did, you would not believe that there isn't a sub in the system. No, its not boomy or anything like that. Its incredible is what it is. I had to pull the Velodyne power cord out of the wall to prove to my uncle it wasn't on. Its not just the bottom end that came alive. They truly sound great from the bottom to the top. Great mods. Two thumbs way up :thumb: :thumb:

WGH

Hey thanks Indiansprings. It's amazing how some bracing and Richlite damping can transform a good speaker into a great speaker. Enjoy.

Wayne