Liliana Monoblocks - 1st review up!

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Liliana Monoblocks - 1st review up!
« on: 9 Jul 2012, 04:16 pm »


Inefficient speakers? Large room? Or simply craving superb sound backed by abundant power? 6Moon’s finds your destination in Red Wine Audio’s new Liliana Monoblocks!


“…RWA(s) recipe has been successfully scaled up to drive beastlier speakers.”

“For an amplifier such low-impedance current delivery means superior control over the connected loudspeaker.”

“With the Lilianas we thus get the promise of perfectly silent operation, perfectly consistent always predictable performance and what Vinnie views as the perfect combination of slam and delicacy.”

“Applied equally and consistently to build quality, to the proven battery concept, to applicability (which includes most speakers any shopper in these leagues would consider) and finally to the core but now refined sound signature, the most relevant catch phrase for Liliana really is super solid! That then becomes your destination...”


Source: Srajan Ebaen, 6moons.com

http://6moons.com/audioreviews/redwine15/1.html


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Re: Liliana Monoblocks - 1st review up!
« Reply #1 on: 9 Jul 2012, 07:09 pm »

Forgot to mention that a pair of Lilianas are shipping today to Tone Audio for next review -
stay tuned for that!  8)

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Re: Liliana Monoblocks - 1st review up!
« Reply #2 on: 11 Jul 2012, 03:13 am »
The tube pre-amp inside looks same as signature 15.

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Re: Liliana Monoblocks - 1st review up!
« Reply #3 on: 11 Jul 2012, 05:20 pm »
The tube pre-amp inside looks same as signature 15.

Yes - same tube stage...

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Re: Liliana Monoblocks - 1st review up!
« Reply #4 on: 13 Jul 2012, 03:21 pm »
Vinnie -

Congrats on the very positive review.

Any chance you will ever do a high powered integrated or dual mono (not monoblock) amp?

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Re: Liliana Monoblocks - 1st review up!
« Reply #5 on: 13 Jul 2012, 03:28 pm »
Thanks, Firedog!

Yes - a higher powered stereo integrated is in the works!  :)

More details to come...

All the best,

Vinnie

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Re: Liliana Monoblocks - 1st review up!
« Reply #6 on: 1 Dec 2013, 12:17 pm »
I just don't understand this guy. Is it a function of English not being his first language? His writing style leaves me with nothing other than his ability to draw comparison to some of the most obscure hardware around the world... 

I was looking around and others feel the same way. Seems like the point of the liliana is that it works on larger, less sensitive speakers, yet the whole review is based on these obscure very sensitive speakers, something that was RWA legacy.  I would love more reviews from users who have less sensitive speakers.

http://www.stereo.net.au/forums/index.php?/topic/58351-6-moons-review-another-sgr-amp/
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Re: Liliana Monoblocks - 1st review up!
« Reply #7 on: 3 Dec 2013, 04:25 pm »
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Seems like the point of the liliana is that it works on larger, less sensitive speakers, yet the whole review is based on these obscure very sensitive speakers, something that was RWA legacy.  I would love more reviews from users who have less sensitive speakers.

Hi Yetis,

Yes - the goal of the Liliana design is to offer:

- Strong, high-current output for harder to drive speakers (e.g. Magnepan, where they would see 230Watts RMS into their 4-ohm load)
- Tube-like midrange with warmth, tone, and texture. 
- A sweet, detailed top-end that is free of listener fatigue and artificial "graininess."   
- Solid bass response that is well-controlled and punchy (the super low impedance LiFePO4 battery and paralled-MOSFET output stage both excel at this).

While one with high sensitivity speakers would enjoy the Lilianas, their high power may not be needed.  I have a customer that I made a custom pair of Signature 16 monoblocks ($3600 for the pair) who finds them to offer more than enough power, and the saved money was put towards
an Isabella preamp to go with them. 

As for future Liliana reviews - Scot Hull just did an amp shoot-out of sorts here:
http://parttimeaudiophile.com/2013/11/27/magnepan-and-tekton-meet-pass-labs-odyssey-job-merrill-red-wine-audio-first-watt-and-vitus-audio/

[Magnepan 3.7s were used - which can be hard to drive being 4-ohm and 86dB efficient, and well as some highly-sensitive Tektons]

His official review of the Lilianas with the Isabella preamp will hopefully be out soon, and then they'll be off to the next reviewer.


Also - Jeff Dorgay of Tone Audio reviewed the 1st generation of Liliana Monoblocks:

http://www.tonepublications.com/review/red-wine-audio-liliana-monoblocks/

I believe he tested them into 4-ohm, 85dB Dynaudio Confidence C1's, and more efficient GamuT S9s (89dB/ 4-ohm)

Cheers!

Vinnie