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Audio/Video Gear and Systems => Owner's Circles => Digital Amplifier Company Owners => Topic started by: AmpDesigner333 on 8 Nov 2013, 10:16 am
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Product Brief:
https://www.digitalamp.com/MARA_INTRO_NOV_2013.pdf
More Photos (NEW):
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?action=gallery;album=11804
List price is $4000/pair. We are offering a very special deal until the end of this month. Simply PayPal $1950 USD to Support@DigitalAmp.com (not case sensitive) to purchase a PAIR of brand new Maraschino monoblocks!
Here's the fine print.... By accepting this deal, you agree to provide a review, which includes an equipment list. We will contact you separately to arrange shipping.
Thanks.
-Tommy O
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We'll post answers here for convenience. The special includes an RCA (single ended) adapter for each amp. The power cord is not included since most customers like to use their own cords. If you need a cord, let us know via Support@DigitalAmp.com or a private Audio Circle message.
.... and, Happy Friday!
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We will ask via email if you prefer the black or brass screws on top after receiving your order. Thanks again :D
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I have a Cherry with some upgrades. Love it.
How would you describe the difference in the Marashino versus the Cherry line?
At that the new mono blocks are a steal.
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I have a Cherry with some upgrades. Love it.
How would you describe the difference in the Marashino versus the Cherry line?
At that the new mono blocks are a steal.
Glad you love your Cherry!
The Maraschino is designed to be the most transparent amplifier possible. It's more or less a group of improvements on the original Cherry, so, it was designed to be an even better sounding amp. However, the big Cherry simply puts out more power and sounds more like a tube amp.
The speed and imaging of the Maraschino is quite amazing, and is the first thing that you'll notice in a direct comparison.
Thanks, and have a great weekend :)
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Yes, we can take a check instead of PayPal. This is actually better for us since PayPal charges a significant percentage.
As always, just send an email if this is what you prefer.
Thanks again !
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Tommy, I've followed your product line development with interest and your newest offering takes a major design detour from previous designs. The tiny footprint begs the question; what happened to the power supply?? Stout and heavy power supply was one of the primary features that distinguished your amps from other competitors and your latest offering obviously takes a different design approach. Casework and power supply implementation obviously accounted for a significant part of the build cost in prior amps and the smaller footprint Maraschino has reduced those costs. So, if possible to answer without without giving away proprietary design info to competitors, can you explain where build costs go to account for the fact that your retail price remains roughly equivalent to your other amps after reducing the costs of installing a large traditional power supply. To my uneducated eye, your new amp seems to occupy a product niche similar to the one Kharma Matrix MP 150 populated (but at a lower price point than theirs.)
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Tommy, I've followed your product line development with interest and your newest offering takes a major design detour from previous designs. The tiny footprint begs the question; what happened to the power supply?? Stout and heavy power supply was one of the primary features that distinguished your amps from other competitors and your latest offering obviously takes a different design approach. Casework and power supply implementation obviously accounted for a significant part of the build cost in prior amps and the smaller footprint Maraschino has reduced those costs. So, if possible to answer without without giving away proprietary design info to competitors, can you explain where build costs go to account for the fact that your retail price remains roughly equivalent to your other amps after reducing the costs of installing a large traditional power supply. To my uneducated eye, your new amp seems to occupy a product niche similar to the one Kharma Matrix MP 150 populated (but at a lower price point than theirs.)
As noted earlier in this thread "It's more or less a group of improvements on the original Cherry, so, it was designed to be an even better sounding amp". That's the TECHNOLOGY, mostly contained in the board level design. Regarding the different external topology, we wanted to physically implement this amp with a different mentality instead of "the same old thing", so this is not the same old packaging. The Maraschino's packaging adds to its performance.
Our patented physical implementation allows best use of the board level technology. We made the power supply external for several reasons, one of which is to allow users of the Maraschino to benefit from various power supply options.
Regarding margins (which you imply above), ours have always been just about the lowest in the industry. This extreme-quality hardware is quite expensive to make. Much more expensive, we believe, than with other amp makers. We can pull this off because the cost of our technology isn't heavily burdened with trade shows, advertising, or massive dealer mark-ups. We focus on R&D instead. This simply means our customers get a lot more hardware for the money than they can get pretty much anywhere else. Our concentration is on our customers, who we treat with the respect they deserve.
We are also smart. We really think things through. This design has been in the works for...... well, a while. The end result is that the Maraschino is simply an amazing amplifier.
Thanks for your post, and have a great weekend.
-Tommy O
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We received comments about Maraschinos yesterday: "sounded like a different recording" and "never heard anything that CLEAR"!
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That is great news. I am one of the early adopters and i just got a pair of new speakers from Carnegie Acoustics that are modified by Danny Ritchie from GR-Research. These speakers with their planar tweeter sound very transparant and detailed in the highs and certainly not harsch. They run on ice power from a Teac streamer with built in amp right now. If the Maraschinos sound even more clear it would be breathtaking. I also have Hyperionsound 938 speakers and i will set them up as soon as i finished my HT room. These are maybe a little less transparant in the highs but much more in the midrange. I'm looking forward trying the Maraschinos in my setup and in my 2nd future setup.
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Were the Maraschino amps at the NY/NJ Rave a few weeks ago?
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If you mean the one at Deepak with the Lampi then yes.
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If you mean the one at Deepak with the Lampi then yes.
hifial, Thanks for the response.
Those little guys sounded exceptional on a speaker notorious for letting you know how your upstream components sound, wort's and all.
I was surprised to find out they were a digital amp, let alone that those two little black boxes were amplifiers!
Chris
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hifial, Thanks for the response.
Those little guys sounded exceptional on a speaker notorious for letting you know how your upstream components sound, wort's and all.
I was surprised to find out they were a digital amp, let alone that those two little black boxes were amplifiers!
Chris
Thanks, Chris.
By the way, the amps you heard are prototypes. They don't have the OPA input stage. They also don't have the updated, even higher BW. Plus, the granite and sorbothane on the "real deal" make the sound EVEN BETTER! :D
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Thanks, Chris.
By the way, the amps you heard are prototypes. They don't have the OPA input stage. They also don't have the updated, even higher BW. Plus, the granite and sorbothane on the "real deal" make the sound EVEN BETTER! :D
Tommy, I am very glad to hear you say that as I was not that happy with the sound of your amps at Deepak that day. I tossed it up to the system and that your amps needed some time to settle in. The amps were very "clear" and "transparent" but I also heard a little hardness and thinness. I know from experience that even small things can make a big impact on the sound of an amp. Now I will have to get the opportunity to hear how they truly sound for I know how well your previous designs sounded.
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Tommy, I am very glad to hear you say that as I was not that happy with the sound of your amps at Deepak that day. I tossed it up to the system and that your amps needed some time to settle in. The amps were very "clear" and "transparent" but I also heard a little hardness and thinness. I know from experience that even small things can make a big impact on the sound of an amp. Now I will have to get the opportunity to hear how they truly sound for I know how well your previous designs sounded.
I arrived at Deepaks a little late and took some time to move around the house and meet a few of the guys.
I only listened to Tommy's amps with the 47 labs transport some guy brought with a massive and very heavy battery power supply.
Poor guy (me) had to lug it upstairs then down to the basement, then back up to the family room. My chiropractor loves it when I do that kind of stuff. :roll:
The transport was connected to the Lampizator BIG Six the Dodd preamp and then the D.A.C.'s amps.
I thought they sounded pretty good, but have never listened to D.A.C.'s other creations for comparison. As usual there are always tradeoffs and in a rave setting one can only get a taste of what's going on, and what I heard they tasted pretty darn good. :D
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Tommy, I am very glad to hear you say that as I was not that happy with the sound of your amps at Deepak that day. I tossed it up to the system and that your amps needed some time to settle in. The amps were very "clear" and "transparent" but I also heard a little hardness and thinness. I know from experience that even small things can make a big impact on the sound of an amp. Now I will have to get the opportunity to hear how they truly sound for I know how well your previous designs sounded.
Well, even the prototypes didn't have any harshness! Some other system issues were probably revealed. The Maraschino doesn't "doctor" the sound like slower amps, so what was previously masked may have been revealed. I've noticed some content with upper register issues that I didn't hear before. What music were you listening to at the time? Thanks for your post.
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The only way to take advantage of high bandwidth recordings (96k, DSD) is to have a high bandwidth amp! With other amps, the high frequencies never make it to the speakers! With the Maraschino, you get to enjoy the extra spacial cues and unstressed upper register sounds.
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Does the introdcuctory price include a power supply?
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Does the introdcuctory price include a power supply?
Yes, a medical grade 48V power supply, universal mains (international), upgradeable. Thanks.
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Any specific recommendations for the power supply upgrade?
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Any specific recommendations for the power supply upgrade?
We plan to offer a higher power supply next year. We also plan a buy-back type upgrade program for this. Sorry, no details yet. Thanks for your post.
-Tommy O
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Wow.. this is very different from what is available today in the market. Can't wait for the reviews!
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For the record, I've heard two speaker systems so far that immediately sounded much better with Maraschino. One is a semi-custom Seas/Vifa D'Appolito configuration 2-way. These have been my "3rd level" test speakers for several years. Yes, they are good, but I didn't realize HOW good. The woofers are only 6.5" and the tweeters are soft cloth domes ---- not super fancy. These now sound bigger (and louder without fatigue), plus they can really image! It's an eye/ear-opener to see/hear just how much of an improvement the amp made. Why invest in a new set of speakers (I hear Billy Joel in the background, "Don't waste your money....")? Try the Maraschino first. You may just love your speakers again....
Quick status update: 10 days left on the early adopter special.
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We would like to thank everyone for their great response to this special. Today is the last day for the special, by the way!
:)
-Tommy O
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The countdown begins!
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One more pair then we're out to 2014....
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One more pair then we're out to 2014....
Sold!
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Have any of the new Maraschino early adopters posted a reveiw yet? I'm looking forward to hearing from the group.
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I was told they are expecting to ship by 12/27. There was a delay due to granite base supply issues.
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Thanks Mamba, I did not know that.
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Have any of the new Maraschino early adopters posted a reveiw yet? I'm looking forward to hearing from the group.
A list of reviews so far......
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=122893.msg1294518#msg1294518 (RCduck7, Jan 15)
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=122726.msg1292506#msg1292506 (mamba315, Jan 08)
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=113606.msg1196461#msg1196461 (mfsoa, Mar 03)
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Think we might need a new thread for Maraschino reviews soon.
This one is not quite finished yet (just shipped an eval pair), but very well done so far:
http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/dac/1.html
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Tommy, I've followed your product line development with interest and your newest offering takes a major design detour from previous designs. The tiny footprint begs the question; what happened to the power supply?? Stout and heavy power supply was one of the primary features that distinguished your amps from other competitors and your latest offering obviously takes a different design approach. Casework and power supply implementation obviously accounted for a significant part of the build cost in prior amps and the smaller footprint Maraschino has reduced those costs. So, if possible to answer without without giving away proprietary design info to competitors, can you explain where build costs go to account for the fact that your retail price remains roughly equivalent to your other amps after reducing the costs of installing a large traditional power supply. To my uneducated eye, your new amp seems to occupy a product niche similar to the one Kharma Matrix MP 150 populated (but at a lower price point than theirs.)
Came across the message above while searching for something else. Check our the MEGAschino, a return to the "Stout and heavy power supply"! Here's the Kickstarter introducing it:
http://kck.st/2CH4sLB