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Title: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: low.pfile on 22 Feb 2008, 12:37 am

How is your Apple Mac mini (http://www.apple.com/macmini/) set up as a music server or part of a digital music system?  Let's see your configuration whether you have a straight forward mac mini to integrated amp to bookshelfs or you have the mac mini connected to an external hard drive and connected into a distributed network to many systems. Please provide brands and models of the specific hardware, cabling, etc. used:

My Mac Mini Audio System Description:




Also provide comments on these:

a. If applicable, what is custom in this mac mini system?
b. What feature or function would you add to the mac mini if you could (keeping the system within a similar price range?
c. The part of your mac mini system that gives YOU the most satifaction/enjoyment ?
d. Other comments:


Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: low.pfile on 22 Feb 2008, 12:38 am

My Mac Mini Audio System Description:




Also provide comments on these:

a. If applicable, what is custom in this mac mini system?
b. What feature or function would you add to the mac mini if you could (keeping the system within a similar price range?
c. The part of your mac mini system that gives YOU the most satifaction/enjoyment ?
d. Other comments:
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: low.pfile on 22 Feb 2008, 12:42 am
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Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: Crimson on 22 Feb 2008, 10:14 pm
Come on, folks. No Mini users out there?

Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: avta on 23 Feb 2008, 04:51 am


How is your Apple Mac mini (http://www.apple.com/macmini/) set up as a music server or part of a digital music system?  Let's see your configuration whether you have a straight forward mac mini to integrated amp to bookshelves or you have the mac mini connected to an external hard drive and connected into a distributed network to many systems. Please provide brands and models of the specific hardware, cabling, etc. used:

My Mac Mini Audio System Description:

G4
OSX 10.4.11
External 160 gig
1 gig
[/list]

Samsung 17"/ Apple
Netgear Rangemax
Squeezebox 2 not modded
None

Nuforce 9.02 V2 Solid State amp
Nuforce P8 Solid State
Benchmark 1 not usb
None
Magnepan 1.6
Blue Jeans/Synergistic Research
Living Room

Also provide comments on these:

a. If applicable, what is custom in this mac mini system? Nothing
b. What feature or function would you add to the mac mini if you could (keeping the system within a similar price range? Nothing
c. The part of your mac mini system that gives YOU the most satisfaction/enjoyment ? Excellent sound quality for the money.
d. Other comments: I now listen exclusively to music files ( FLAC )



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Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: low.pfile on 23 Feb 2008, 05:20 am
cool atva!
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: planet10 on 23 Feb 2008, 08:09 am
Why just the Mac Mini?

moved to the right thread


dave
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: low.pfile on 23 Feb 2008, 08:49 am

The question asked of me a couple of times: Why is this thread only a list of Mac mini's?

My answer:
I am curious about the implementions/integration of a compact, displayless mac into an audio system. My feeling is that macbooks, ibooks, and iMacs all have displays and are mostly portable and therefore will always appear to be a computer connected to a stereo. I've heard references to stand alone mac minis integrated into audio systems and want to know more specifics, customization, issues, etc. 

Additionally, often here on AC the mac mini is recommended to those considering their first digital music server, so I thought this list would be a good starting point for them.  And lastly, I currently have a PowerMac G5 as the core of a music server but am considering what to get next due to potential housing changes or just to downsize. I also have a macbook pro which could be used as a server/player as well. Though currently, it only serves as a very heavy remote control (http://www.shirt-pocket.com/netTunes/) for my G5 running iTunes in the other room.

I hope that explains my reasoning for this thread. I hope to see more member's mac mini descriptions.

enjoy your music, ed

Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: low.pfile on 23 Feb 2008, 08:53 am
And I hope we can get the formating of the replys cleaned up a little. Maybe my bullet list wasn't the best idea? anyway I suggest to future posters: just make it an easily readable list.

ed

Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: Bemopti123 on 23 Feb 2008, 03:39 pm


  • Mac mini G4 1.42 mhz
  • 10.3.9
  • OWC Microstack V2 500 GB bootable external as main drive(stand alone or RAID):
  • 1GB DDR replacement for the original 512 MB

  • Original wireless Apple keyboard frost white
  • N/A
  • Itunes
  • Other method of controlling the mac mini

  • Naim Headline 2 with optional external power supply NAPS? or any other preamp to amplifier that I choose for the moment
  • First Sound Paramount MK II HotRod
  • Headroom Micro DAC MKI (2006-07)
  • Different standard cables
  • AKG-701K headphone to Headlineor if using standard amps:  Neat Motive 3 or Gershman X-1 or Lowther PM6CA in JE Labs OB or another choicesystem:
  • Interconnect types between mac mini and DAC, standard USB
  • Location of the mac mini listening room, office

Also provide comments on these:

a. If applicable, I added a ASUS 802.11g wireless adapter instead of the standard Airport to improve reception from router in the basement...Airport sometimes has poor signal retrieval and in some cases, provokes several errors disrupting internet signals from router.  This can happen with both older G4 and newer Intel chip models.  When encountering with dropped signals, the best solution is the adapter I have installed.  Perhaps there is a software glitch with the Airport that is used in Mac models.
b. What feature or function would you add to the mac mini a more robust dedicated GPU, for better gaming performance instead of the cheapened integrated Intel solution.
c. The part of your mac mini system that gives YOU reliability for most processes, meaning music, photo and other functions.  Beat that with a Windows XP or Vista machine. 
d. Other comments:  The mini that I have has been a surprise since I first bought it almost 3 years ago. 



Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: kbuzz3 on 23 Feb 2008, 04:01 pm
i think this is a great thread. Partiuclarly for those of us contemplating the move to cpu audio.  For me like the OP, id prefer to use a mac min plus hard drive but the display issue is a factor. another is of course the the mac to flac rip. but from other recent posts it seems there is software out there to do this.
whether is plug n play thats another story.

id love to hear from those with mac minis, storage and mini remotes, either tablets or itouches. Again this also raises significant cost issues as opposed to a pc tower with two external drives which could be had for say less then 800 bucks easily.


Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: Bemopti123 on 23 Feb 2008, 04:44 pm
Kbuzz, I also considered the cost of owing a Mini in terms of what can be had in hardware with a Windows machine.  Perhaps I should expound why I wind up getting my Mini to begin with.  3 years ago my Windows Dell P4 1.66 Mhz with 512 Mb and upgraded video card became notoriously unreliable.  By then I have had it for about 2+ years and when OS software upgrades came, it stopped recognizing even such mundane things such as my digital camera, driverless USB media readers, my all in one printer, scanner and other things.  Furthermore, the HD went south.  At that time, the Mini came out.  The beginning price seemed quite affordable, but when you began to stack the options for it, mine I paid almost $1100 for it with all the necessary upgrades. 

The computer at that point became as oxymoron to the term "mini", it was only mini in size but not in $$$.  I thought about using it primarily for photos and music and use the Windows machine for other more CPU intensive purposes... FF, today, after 3 years, it has become the main computer at home for me.  It does 95% of the things I need for everyday needs just fine.  The Windows machine is gathering dust, being cranked up once in a while...with parts of it failing, for not being used often. 

Yes, in terms of price to performance ratio or "goodies" that are included in the package, it cannot compete with other vendors.  BUt...  for me, $$$ spent in the hardware that comes with the Mini was much better put together.  Hardly none of the hardware that came with it failed, the OS, even though it is not Tiger or Leopard, it more than functional.   I guess that instead of going for the biggest, ballsiest hardware machine that one can get for the $$$ spent, the Mini goes for something else, reliability and ease of use come to mind. 

I will be forced to spend more $$$ on a dedicated gaming PC when StarCraft 2 comes out...but whether that would be money well spent it questionable. 

Check what people are doing with their Mac Minis in 123Macmini.com.  You will be surprised. 
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: davidcotton on 1 Mar 2008, 07:03 pm
I'm basically using a mac mini as the main computer to run slimserver.  Attached to the mini is a 320 gig usb harddrive with the vast majority of the files being flac. The advantage of running the mini is that it's going to be awhile before the software outstrips its capabilites.  Already the slim software is struggling to be put on the nas (which wasn't great to start with tbh!) that I used to run.
 It's being run headless at the moment in the bedroom (not a problem as I don't buy cds that often).  In the near future I plan to get a Itouch and remote buddy installed on the mini.  This along with Ipeng (a dedicated Itouch/iphone skin for slimserver)should allow me to control the mac without it being hooked up.  I do plan on eventually hooking the mac up to the tv but as I'm thinking about upgrading from crt to lcd that side can wait for a bit.

My current system is

Marantz 66 KI Signature amp, Squeezebox 3 into a modded m-audio 2496 dac with mission 780 speakers.

Experiences have been great.  Nice and quiet, reliable just sits there and gets on with the job!
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: kbuzz3 on 1 Mar 2008, 08:23 pm
david and folks, thanks for the response. In the event one wants to run a mac mini headless, can someone link me to a post or site they of, which shows how to set it up initially with a squeezebox.  Or does one just plug it into their router and turn on the SB?

Also how do you rip when its headless?

thanks
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: JohnR on 2 Mar 2008, 04:31 am
You can use VNC to run a remote desktop from another computer. I haven't done it in a while - I've been meaning to look into how well this works these days, I'll look around and start another thread with what I find.
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: ecruz on 2 Mar 2008, 12:18 pm

Also provide comments on these:

a. If applicable, what is custom in this mac mini system?
b. What feature or function would you add to the mac mini if you could (keeping the system within a similar price range?
c. The part of your mac mini system that gives YOU the most satifaction/enjoyment ? Sound quality
d. Other comments:



Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: jaywills on 2 Mar 2008, 02:13 pm
My Mac Mini Audio System Description:

Mac mini processor model:  G4, 1.42
Operating system version:  Tiger 10.4.11
Hard drive type (internal only or external) size and type (stand alone or RAID):  Both, 80 gb internal (Apple), 250 gb external (Seagate in ministack v.2 enclosure (firewire).
Internal memory installed:  1 gb

Monitor/keyboard: Samsung Syncmaster 225bw, Apple
Wireless hardware: N/A
Software music player(s): Squeezebox via ethernet (iTunes, Apple lossless)
Other method of controlling the mac mini (VNC, custom remotes, etc): N/A

Amplifier, and type (eg. Solid state mono block, SET, Tube integrated): Homebrew Hypex UcD 400, Gallo Ref. 3 SA (both Class D solid state).
Pre amplifier:  Melos SHA Gold Ref. Maestro (Amperex NOS tubes from late '50's).
External DAC:  TacT 2.2x (Maui mods).
Other component(s) in chain between mini and speakers:  Mini>(ethernet)>Squeezebox>(S/PDIF-Element Cable)>TacT 2.2x(room correction/DAC only)>(RCA's-Nordost)>Melos pre>(RCA's-Nordost)>Amps described above>(Yardmaster homebrew cables)>Gallo Ref. 3.1's.
Speakers in this system:  Gallo Ref. 3.1's.
Interconnect types between mac mini and X: Ethernet, Nordost, Yardmaster.
Location of the mac mini (eg. in the listening area, other room, or closet):  In listening room.

Also provide comments on these:

a. If applicable, what is custom in this mac mini system?  Maxed ram, Homebrew amp-parts sourced from DIYCable.com (no affiliation) w/all mfr suggested mods, Welborne power supply for Squeezebox (no affiliation), vibration/isolation tweeks, magnet chokes on source signal cables.
b. What feature or function would you add to the mac mini if you could (keeping the system within a similar price range? Easier DIY installation of larger hard drives, more ram capacity.
c. The part of your mac mini system that gives YOU the most satifaction/enjoyment ?  Depends on the moment.
d. Other comments:  Quiet, stable listening system.
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: low.pfile on 2 Mar 2008, 04:09 pm


Thanks for the post folks!!
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: K.C. on 23 Mar 2008, 06:31 am


My Mac Mini Audio System Description:

2Ghz Duo

10.5.2
Internal - Factory 120Gb, External 500GB FW
3GB
[/list]


Neither, control by screen sharing.
Peak Pro 5.2.1 and iTunes.
Back to my Mac via mac.com
[/list]

Pathos Classic one II, Quicksilver Silver 60s, Music Reference RM9, Threshold S200
None, passive through DAC-1 unless using the Pathos integrated
Benchmark DAC-1 USB
Paradigm Signature 2
Audioquest Optical
On audio rack
[/list]

Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: melomaniac on 9 Apr 2008, 04:56 pm

My Mac Mini Audio System Description:

  • Mac mini processor model: 1.66 GHz Intel Core Duo
  • Operating system version: 10.5.2
  • Hard drive type (internal only or external) size and type (stand alone or RAID): 80GB internal, 2 x 500GB external
  • Internal memory installed: 2GB

  • Monitor/keyboard: both Apple wireless
  • Wireless hardware: n/a
  • Software music player(s): iTunes, VLC, Cog
  • Other method of controlling the mac mini: n/a

  • Amplifier, and type: Outlaw RR2150 (built-in USB)
  • Pre amplifier: n/a
  • External DAC: n/a
  • Other component(s) in chain between mini and speakers: n/a
  • Speakers in this system: Magnepan MMG
  • Interconnect types: USB cable to amp, Paul Speltz anticables to Maggies
  • Location of the mac mini: listening area

Also provide comments on these:

a. If applicable, what is custom in this mac mini system? Hm... external drives?
b. What feature or function would you add to the mac mini if you could? Processor upgrade
c. The part of your mac mini system that gives YOU the most satifaction/enjoyment?
d. Other comments: One of the external drives is a bit noisy...

Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: low.pfile on 9 Apr 2008, 05:03 pm

My Mac Mini Audio System Description:

  • Mac mini processor model: 1.66 GHz Intel Core Duo
My Mac Audio System Description:
Mac model and processor:  G5, Dual 1.8Ghz


So Melo, is your music duplicated on your two separate mac systems? or are the mini and G5 sharing drives?

Ed

Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: melomaniac on 11 Apr 2008, 07:23 pm
right now, they're quasi-duplicated. they're not sharing drives. I might stop using the mini for music and make it movie-only (using front row and matinee and the little remote), and store the music on the G5, since I have two squeezeboxes and they are basically not much worse than the built-in USB DACs in either amp.
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: davehg on 24 Apr 2008, 10:19 pm
My Mac Mini Audio System Description:


Mac mini[/i] processor model: Power PC 1.8
Operating system version:10.3
Hard drive type (internal only or external) size and type (stand alone or RAID):60gb int/ 2 La Cie 250 gb external to store music(one is backup)
Internal memory installed:1GB

Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: proftournesol on 15 Jun 2008, 05:44 am


My Mac Mini Audio System Description:

  • Mac mini processor model:

MacMini Intel Core Duo 2.0
  • Operating system version:
OSX 10.5.3
  • Hard drive type (internal only or external) size and type (stand alone or RAID):

160GB internal + 500GB external
  • Internal memory installed:

1GB
[/list]

  • Monitor/keyboard:


wireless keyboard + mouse, Sony Bravia 46" LCD monitor, Elgato USB TC stick + EyeTV
  • Wireless hardware:
  • Software music player(s):

iTunes

  • Other method of controlling the mac mini (VNC, custom remotes, etc):

Mac remote or remote access from another Mac using screen sharing
[/list]

  • Amplifier, and type (eg. Solid state mono block, SET, Tube integrated):

Avantgarde Solo speakers (active) with 250W tranny amps

  • Pre amplifier:

passive

  • External DAC:

Alltmann BYOB DAC connected by Toslink

  • Other component(s) in chain between mini and speakers:

none

  • Speakers in this system:

Avantgarde Solo

  • Interconnect types between mac mini and X:

Toslink cable

  • Location of the mac mini (eg. in the listening area, other room, or closet):

in stereo cabinet
[/list]

Also provide comments on these:

a. If applicable, what is custom in this mac mini system?
b. What feature or function would you add to the mac mini if you could (keeping the system within a similar price range?

RCA outputs or SPDIF digital output
HDMA connector

c. The part of your mac mini system that gives YOU the most satifaction/enjoyment ?

integration into my stereo and other home computers, form factor.
d. Other comments:

Hi
I'm new to this forum. I interested in adding something to my MacMini to record from vinyl. What do people use?

Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: barnz on 17 Jul 2008, 06:51 pm
Hi everybody -
this seemed like a good way to make my first post here.


My Mac Mini Audio System Description:




Also provide comments on these:

a. If applicable, what is custom in this mac mini system?
I suppose my importing method is a bit "custom."
I rip with SBooth's MAX app in this format:
AIFF (Linear PCM) - 32bit big endian signed integer  This was overall the best sounding method I've found.

b. What feature or function would you add to the mac mini if you could (keeping the system within a similar price range?
Dedicated Graphics, and an easier way to match up pixel for pixel with HD monitors.  Upgrading the RAM was a big improvement in not only general performance but image quality, playing back HDTV recorded with EyeTV.

c. The part of your mac mini system that gives YOU the most satifaction/enjoyment ?
Immediate access to Movies and High quality music playback with FrontRow (& iTunes Coverflow).  Pretty cool.  Doesn't sound quite as good as my stand alone CD player (or the turntable, for that matter) but it's easy, sexy, and listenable.

d. Other comments:
I live in the SF Bay Area - we get great Over The Air HD broadcasting here.  I spent some money on a good, but small TV antenna, and an EyeTV 250+, and now I've got 'Tivo' without paying a monthly subscription.  Really great for catching music performances on David Letterman and Austin City Limits without staying up late.
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: Jeffr1966 on 16 Feb 2009, 09:22 pm
My Mac Mini Audio System Description:


Mac mini processor model: Intel Core Duo 1.66ghz

Operating system version: 10.5

Hard drive type (internal only or external) size and type (stand alone or RAID): 100GB internal with dual 750GB external standalones

Internal memory installed: 1GB

Monitor/keyboard: Apple wireless keyboard and mouse; Sharp Aquos 32" LCD TV/monitor

Wireless hardware: KB and mouse

Software music player(s): iTunes

Other method of controlling the mac mini (VNC, custom remotes, etc):Front Row via included remote; straight iTunes w/ wireless KB and mouse

Amplifier, and type (eg. Solid state mono block, SET, Tube integrated): Bryston B100SST w/ DAC  (100w/ch solid state integrated)

Pre amplifier: none; Bryston is an integrated amp

External DAC: none; DAC is internal on Bryston

Other component(s) in chain between mini and speakers: none

Speakers in this system: Gemme Audio Tanto v.1

Interconnect types between mac mini and X:  Van Den Hul Optolink mini optical to Toslink

Location of the mac mini: in the listening area

Also provide comments on these:

a. If applicable, what is custom in this mac mini system? n/a

b. What feature or function would you add to the mac mini if you could (keeping the system within a similar price range?  remote using iPhone or iPod

c. The part of your mac mini system that gives YOU the most satisfaction/enjoyment ? ease of use; fact that the wife and kids are NOT afraid to use the system; ability to stream Netflix movies to the Mac

d. Other comments:  good sound, very reasonable cost, not quite CD quality but close



Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: Crimson on 16 Feb 2009, 10:23 pm
d. Other comments:  good sound, very reasonable cost, not quite CD quality but close

Thanks for the system description. Curious about your comment, though. You should be able to get CD quality. What format do you rip to?
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: Jeffr1966 on 17 Feb 2009, 02:24 pm
ripped using Apple Lossless ... quality is very good but I THINK I prefer the sound of my CD player at least with some of my best recorded CD's.  I am not sure exactly why that is and I cannot put my finger on any serious sonic differences.  maybe it is just a bias as I am new to the whole computer audio thing (only had the mini set-up for about 3 weeks).

for the $$$ the mini set-up is hard to beat.  I paid only $450 for the mini including wireless keyboard, wireless mouse and 1 year of AppleCare on eBay.  new 750GB hard drives also from eBay at $100 each.

Jeff
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: ecruz on 17 Feb 2009, 02:41 pm
quality is very good but I THINK I prefer the sound of my CD player at least with some of my best recorded CD's.  I am not sure exactly why that is and I cannot put my finger on any serious sonic differences.  maybe it is just a bias as I am new to the whole computer audio thing (only had the mini set-up for about 3 weeks).

I came to a similar conclusion when comparing my Mini to my modded Squeezebox.  The Mini sounded thin and not very extended by comparison.  This was using the digital outputs of both, into the same DAC.
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: AudioCat on 17 Feb 2009, 03:51 pm

My Mac Mini Audio System Description:




Also provide comments on these:

The part of your mac mini system that gives YOU the most satisfaction/enjoyment ?


Recently, I made changes to my system to switch from a Mac Mini/Squeezebox transport to a Mac Mini/Apogee Duet.  Primarily, I did this because I was tired of the Squeezebox/SqueezeCenter interface for controlling the music library and its klugey album art management.  Using the Mini/Duet combo allows me to use iTunes as the interface but the switch also provided a huge sonic improvement.  To say I was shocked at how much of an improvement gained is a huge understatement as the difference was not subtle, at all.  The soundstage opened up, the lows gained muscle, the mids were more defined and refined and the highs much smoother. A musician friend who listened to a comparison between the two said the music through the Apogee sounded more natural.  At $500, the Apogee might be the best purchase I've made in my system.   8)

The best thing about this system is it gets out of the way of the music. 8)

Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: AllynW on 12 Apr 2009, 04:34 pm
I've tried to keep the post per the requested format.

Version 10.4.11 Tiger
2 GB of SDRAM
Hard drives: 40GB internal  & WD 2 TB Raid 1 Firewire
No Monitor & keyboard: Shared desktop to Mac Book Pro
iTunes, Max & Cog

VTL 300 Deluxe Mono Blocks.
Musical Fidelity 308Cr Pre-Amp.
Musical Fidelity Tri-Vista 21 DAC
B&W 801 Series 3
connection type: USB to HagUsb converter to RS digital coaxial cable.

My system is located in a dedicated listen room.  The builder called it a “Bonus Room” and it's on the 2nd floor and the room has  soggy bass.  There is 11” X 20” X3/4” granite slabs under each speakers.


 

Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: Crimson on 12 Apr 2009, 10:22 pm
We are a Mac computer household and when we up-graded to Leopard the program changed the font size of the Front Row remote control software.  It became hard to read the screen from my listening chair.

That's a common complaint, and despite a lot of requests to Apple about it there have been no updates to correct it. Or it could be sheer coincidence that the ability to control iTunes via an iPhone or iPod Touch with Remote was released shortly thereafter.

BTW, thanks for contributing.
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: Geardaddy on 13 Apr 2009, 12:12 am


My Mac Mini Audio System Description:

2.26 GHz
10.5
250GB Serial ATA (I)+500GB Time Capsule (E)
memory installed:[/li][/list] 4GB 1067 MHz DDR3
[/list]
wireless Logitech keyboard + mouse
Time Capsule
Itunes
Iphone + Remote app
[/list]
Intuitive Design Coordinate Monoblocks
Intuitive Design Gamma Summits
none
upstairs
[/list]

I recently made the plunge into MAC world.  I had been a PC man since the early 80s and had thousands of $s of PC-based programs and thus resisted the change.  I just bought this WiFi player (Zardoz) and was wrestling with Firewall issues pertaining to both the player and the Apple Remote app for my Iphone.  Fortunately for me, my PC croaked and I scored a Mini.  The rest has been pleasant history...quiet, seamless, no hassles....a beautiful machine.  Not having to thumb through CDs has been a treat and doing this remotely without a computer in the room is even better.  The Zardoz piece is a revelation in terms of sonics and I will be submitting a formal review of that device in the not too distant future.



[/quote]
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: cmryan21 on 16 Jun 2009, 07:46 pm
My Mac Mini Audio System Description:

    * Mac mini processor model: 2.0 Core 2 Duo (2009 model)
    * Operating system version: 10.6.1
    * Hard drive type: internal 120gb (about to upgrade to 500gb)
    * Internal memory installed: 1gb

    * Monitor/keyboard:Toshiba DLP/ Apple
    * Wireless hardware: Airport Extreme
    * Software music player(s): Itunes/Front Row/Remote Buddy
    * Other method of controlling the mac mini: Iphone, Apple Remote/Sony BD Remote

    * Amplifier: Wyred4Sound multi-channel
    * Pre amplifier: Denon 4308CI
    * External DAC: n/a
    * Other component(s) in chain between mini and speakers: none
    * Speakers in this system: JTR Quintuple 8's, Axiom QS8's & Quad 18" Infinite Baffle
    * Location of the mac mini: av rack in living room

Also provide comments on these:

a. If applicable, what is custom in this mac mini system? The only thing I currently have that is custom is the infinite baffle.
b. What feature or function would you add to the mac mini if you could (keeping the system within a similar price range? Maybe a hard button remote with more functions to use with dvd playback in Front Row.
c. The part of your mac mini system that gives YOU the most satisfaction/enjoyment? Ease of use with my music.
d. Other comments: After some initial trial and error, I have been able to get the kind of video playback I was hoping for. As a music player, the mini has been fantastic.
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: 6rs on 16 Jun 2009, 08:02 pm
Mac mini: 2.26 GHz processor
4 Gb RAM
320 gB internal HD
iTunes, using iPod or MacBook touch for control
Amarra 1.02
Weiss Dac2
Nuforce 9V2 SE
ATC SCM20SL (modded Xover with Duelund & Mundorf)
a. nothing
b. easier access to internal components
c. small, quiet, MAC platform (Amarra-compatible)

Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: specialidiot on 3 Jul 2009, 03:09 am
   ?   Mac mini processor model:  1.66 GHz Intel Core Duo
   ?   Operating system version: 10.4.11
   ?   Hard drive type (internal only or external) size and type (stand alone or RAID):  Just upgraded the main drive to a Seagate 7200rpm, 320gig drive, I use an Acomdata 500gig external for the library
   ?   Internal memory installed: 2 gig

   ?   Monitor/keyboard: Samsung 2343BWX (24"), Microsoft Natural keyboard
   ?   Wireless hardware: some kind of Microsoft Natural mouse
   ?   Software music player(s): iTunes
   ?   Other method of controlling the mac mini (VNC, custom remotes, etc):

   ?   Amplifier, and type (eg. Solid state mono block, SET, Tube integrated):  McIntosh MC225
   ?   Pre amplifier: Transcendent Sound Grounded Grid
   ?   External DAC: Silverstone EBoi
   ?   Other component(s) in chain between mini and speakers:
   ?   Speakers in this system: Karma Indignia (DIY 2 ways, see http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=160535
   ?   Interconnect types between mac mini and X:Blue Jeans interconnects
   ?   Location of the mac mini (eg. in the listening area, other room, or closet): Home office

Other Sources:
Yamaha PX-3 with Dynavector 10x5 cart and Bellari VP129 phono stage, Sony XDRF1HD tuner

Also provide comments on these:

a. If applicable, what is custom in this mac mini system?  The system has evolved over the past two years to it's present state.
b. What feature or function would you add to the mac mini if you could (keeping the system within a similar price range? I'm pretty satisfied at the moment, although a headphone amp would be nice.
c. The part of your mac mini system that gives YOU the most satifaction/enjoyment ? I have 100 gigs of FLAC audio files, about 1000 LPs, and a HD tuner so I have a lot to choose from
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: K Shep on 16 Sep 2009, 05:49 pm
My Mac Mini Audio System Description:

   Mac mini processor model: 2.0 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
   Operating system version: OS X 10.5.8
   Hard drive type  size and type: 1TB external iOmega
   Internal memory installed: 2 GB 1067 MHz

   Monitor/keyboard: Dell 20" monitor/Apple key board
   Wireless hardware: Logitech VX Nano mouse
   Software music player: iTunes
   Other method of controlling the mac mini: iPhone Remote application

   Amplifier, and type : Parasound Halo A21 SS amp
   Pre amplifier: Conrad Johnson CT5 tube preamp
   External DAC: Ayre USB DAC
   Speakers in this system: Revel Performa F32s
   Interconnect types between mac mini and X: Transparent USB
   Location of the mac mini : Attic listening room

Kirk
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: Christof on 20 Oct 2009, 08:21 pm

Also provide comments on these:

a. If applicable, what is custom in this mac mini system?
b. What feature or function would you add to the mac mini if you could (keeping the system within a similar price range?
c. The part of your mac mini system that gives YOU the most satifaction/enjoyment ?
d. Other comments:
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: pardales on 19 Jan 2010, 04:02 am
Is the Mini better, sonically, than a laptop, in a computer server digital front end?
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: newzooreview on 20 Jan 2010, 03:12 am
Is the Mini better, sonically, than a laptop, in a computer server digital front end?

The two reasons that I've heard for using a mini rather than a laptop are

1. The LCD monitor in a laptop can be a significant source of RFI/EMI. Getting the screen away from the CPU and sound outputs mitigates this. Or you could just run the Mini with the built-in screen sharing from another Mac.

2. It fits more easily into an equipment rack. You don't really need a monitor. If you use iTunes you can run it from an iPhone or via screen sharing as noted above.

I currently use a MacBook (with the screen turned off and operated via screen sharing across my home network). This worked for me since a) I had a MacBook available after upgrading to a MacBook Pro, and b) I use Play rather than iTunes since it sounds better, and screen sharing let's me control it while Remote on the iPhone does not.

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: pardales on 20 Jan 2010, 04:12 am
The two reasons that I've heard for using a mini rather than a laptop are

1. The LCD monitor in a laptop can be a significant source of RFI/EMI. Getting the screen away from the CPU and sound outputs mitigates this. Or you could just run the Mini with the built-in screen sharing from another Mac.

2. It fits more easily into an equipment rack. You don't really need a monitor. If you use iTunes you can run it from an iPhone or via screen sharing as noted above.

I currently use a MacBook (with the screen turned off and operated via screen sharing across my home network). This worked for me since a) I had a MacBook available after upgrading to a MacBook Pro, and b) I use Play rather than iTunes since it sounds better, and screen sharing let's me control it while Remote on the iPhone does not.

Hope that helps.

Very helpful, thank you.  :thumb:

I use an iPod touch as remote but would not be comfortable without a screen as it makes getting some internet radio stations much easier. Not to mention, I like to check email occasionally on the same computer. Hadn't heard of "PLAY" before. I understand what you are saying though.
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: skproductions on 16 Feb 2010, 02:38 pm


My Mac Mini Audio System Description:

2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
10.6.2
320GB (internal)
2GB
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MacBook Pro via screen share
IPhone Remote
iTunes

ATC SCM 50 active speakers (Amp is built in - 350w per channel)
McIntosh C22 Vintage Tube Pre Amp
Ayre QB-9
ATC SCM 50A
USB
Listening Room
[/list]

Also provide comments on these:

a. If applicable, what is custom in this mac mini system?
b. What feature or function would you add to the mac mini if you could (keeping the system within a similar price range?
c. The part of your mac mini system that gives YOU the most satifaction/enjoyment ?
d. Other comments:
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Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: Jeff Ward on 16 Feb 2010, 11:43 pm
My Mac Mini Audio System Description:




Also provide comments on these:

a. If applicable, what is custom in this mac mini system? Stock.
b. What feature or function would you add to the mac mini if you could (keeping the system within a similar price range? Better remote functionality without using the iPhone/iPod.
c. The part of your mac mini system that gives YOU the most satifaction/enjoyment ? When the sound comes out of the speakers (in all parts of the house) seamlessly, which would be about 95% of the time.
d. Other comments: Wish I could wire everything with Ethernet to get rid of that 5% of the time that there are dropouts.
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: les anderson on 19 Feb 2010, 12:13 am
My Mac Mini Audio System Description:

Mac mini processor model: 2.26 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo
Operating system version: OS X 10.6 Snow
Hard drive type: Internal is 160gb, external is 1tb. Anything that is saved on the mini/external is backed up accros the network to a wm7 PC that has mirrord 1 tb drives.
Internal memory installed:2 GB

Monitor/keyboard: none
Wireless hardware: Linksys wrt160 802.11n
Software music player(s): iTunes
Other method of controlling the mac mini; VNC for admin and an gen 1 itouch as primary. My wife and I also run "remote" like software on our Palm Pres.

External DAC: KRK Ergo firewire dac w Lyngdorf room correction. Also has an analog volume control that is usually left at 2'ocock when not listening in the loft. I use the digital volume control in itunes for level adjustment during background music listening.
Speakers in this system: Quad 12l Active

Mini is stock. I do run a great little program called memeo autosync that does all the backing up to multiple drives across the network. $30 MSRP. But this actually runs on the windows machine.
Interconnect types: generic Belkin firewire from mini to Ergo. Balanced mogami neglex from Ergo to speakers
Location of the mac mini :  dedicated listening loft that plays through the house as well

I love the fact that this system is high performance and does room correction but is elegant and simple enough for my wife to use. 4 boxes!

I sold my analog rig to get into this gear and my plan for 2010 is to add decent turntable and purevinyl. I will feed the turntables analog outputs into the analog inputs of the Ergo which does 24/96 ADC. Purevinyl will add gain and do RIAA correction, when the ergo gets the digital feed back from the mini it will do its room correction and send off to the speakers.

Computer audio is great.
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: Crimson on 19 Feb 2010, 02:22 am
Hi and welcome to AC!

Quote
External DAC: KRK Ergo firewire dac

Would really like to hear your impressions of the Ergo.
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: les anderson on 19 Feb 2010, 04:18 pm
Hi and welcome to AC!

Would really like to hear your impressions of the Ergo.

Thanks. I was kind of surprised when I went to post and relaized I had never registered. I spend a lot of time at audioasylum but there seems to be a good buzz over here on apple stuff which is great.

I will break my impressions into 2 areas; 1. Ergo as a room correction device. 2. Ergo as a DAC.

As a room correction device the Ergo made a very positive impact on my system. Bass response became much more soilid and imaging further stabilized. The changes in bass impact are very apparent and easily noticable. What is intersting is the improvement occurs both in the sweet spot as well as way outside of it. So it is not like you correct one area while another area of the room falls apart.  The imaging improvement is also apparent but it would take a trained ear to to decipher the difference in most cases. Midrange clarity also seemed to improve but I am not sure I could pick out the difference every time in a blind test.

I have also been very pleased with the performance ofthe DAC which reportedly uses the same chip as the Logitch Transporter. (Cant remember which one off the top of my head) I have a Proceed AVP and a Dacmagic and it betters the AVP and is just as good as the dacmagic but slighly less warm in my opinion. It is very detailed. I am also running it off of firewire bus power which I have been told is not as good as using the wal wart. I just havent gotten around to ordering the proper firewire adapter cables.

I think you get an awful lot for the money which I have found typical of pro audio gear.
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: konut on 19 Feb 2010, 05:09 pm
Too bad the Ergo does not have a digital out for use with an external DAC. Would make a nice stand alone room correction device.
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: les anderson on 19 Feb 2010, 11:05 pm
Too bad the Ergo does not have a digital out for use with an external DAC. Would make a nice stand alone room correction device.

I agree that would be a nice feature. I would also like to be able to bypass the analog volume pot.

However, it does have an line level subwoofer crossover which is another nice feature. You just need to build around it, and not the other way around.
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: agentsmith on 7 Jun 2010, 03:24 am
My Mac Mini Audio System Description:

    * Mac mini processor model: 2.26GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
    * Operating system version: Snow Leopard
    * Hard drive type: 160GB Internal;  2GB+2GB Mirrored QNAP T219P NAS drive
    * Internal memory installed: 2GB


    * Monitor/keyboard: Pioneer Plasma, no keyboard
    * Wireless hardware: Not using wireless
    * Software music player(s): iTunes
    * Other method of controlling the mac mini: Screen sharing via Macbook pro


    * Amplifier, and type: Naim NAP200 Solid State
    * Pre amplifier: Naim NAC 282/HiCap.NAPSC
    * External DAC: Naim DAC
    * Other component: M2Tech Hiface USB-SPDIF adapter
    * Speakers: Harbeth Monitor 30
    * Interconnect types: QED SPDIF 75Ohm cable
    * Location of the mac mini: On hifi rack


Also provide comments on these:

a. If applicable, what is custom in this mac mini system?
Mini is bone stock.  Using M2Tech Hiface USB-SPDIF adapter to good effect

b. What feature or function would you add to the mac mini if you could (keeping the system within a similar price range?
- SD memory card input; 
- USB input in front
- Much bigger hard drive should be offered at this price
- Blu-Ray option
- Price too high for a box without even keyboard offered
- KB, Mouse and Wireless remote should be included at that price
- Wireless remote too basic

c. The part of your mac mini system that gives YOU the most satifaction/enjoyment ?
- Lovely form factor
- Mac OS ease of use
- Quietness, at least for now

d. Other comments:
Nice box, quite short on performance and features though
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: Docere on 16 Oct 2010, 07:28 am

Also provide comments on these:

a. If applicable, what is custom in this mac mini system?

b. What feature or function would you add to the mac mini if you could (keeping the system within a similar price range?

c. The part of your mac mini system that gives YOU the most satifaction/enjoyment ?
Sound quality, which is what I would consider musical when playing back most albums. There is further room for improvement by using external drive and a decent - but not crazy-priced - USB cable.

Other comments:
I like this source. With the recent memory upgrade the sonics are superior to a quality CD transport running into the same DAC and overall preferred to a nice Esoteric SACD player heard recently... I would like Pure Music to provide internet radio streaming.
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: jacko2x on 4 Nov 2010, 08:58 pm

My Mac Mini Audio System Description:

Mac mini processor model: 2010 Unibody
Operating system version: OS X 10.6.5
Hard drive type (internal only or external) size and type (stand alone or RAID): Applications (Stock Internal HD), Library (External Firewire 500GB on Oyen Enclosure)
Internal memory installed: 8G NuRam

Monitor/keyboard: HDMI to LCD TV, DisplayPort to NEC 23wmi IPS Panel, Wireless Keyboard
Wireless hardware: Wireless Trackpad
Software music player(s): Pure Music + iTunes
Other method of controlling the mac mini (VNC, custom remotes, etc): Apple Remote & iPhone Remote

Amplifier, and type (eg. Solid state mono block, SET, Tube integrated): Class D Audio SDS 254 & SET Tube Amp
Pre amplifier: Steinberg MR816X
External DAC: Steinberg MR816X
Speakers in this system: Hawthorne Duets
Interconnect types between mac mini and X: Firewire and TS/RCA
Location of the mac mini (eg. in the listening area, other room, or closet): Digital Rack away from Audio Rack

Also provide comments on these:

a. If applicable, what is custom in this mac mini system?
   Other than the upgrade to 8G ram, nothing else.

b. What feature or function would you add to the mac mini if you could (keeping the system within a similar price range?
   An eSata port.

c. The part of your mac mini system that gives YOU the most satifaction/enjoyment ?
   Sound Quality, Sound Quality, Sound Quality...
   Speed: Coming from a first gen MBP the speed bump from 1.86 to 2.4 has satisfied my audio desires the most and also my multimedia craves by giving me more headroom to process more audio/visual data.
   Noise: It's a quiet machine considering it uses an older tech spinning HD (from what I read)


d. Other comments:
   I'd probably like to add an SSD later on to make it quieter.
   Anyone thinking of using the Mac Mini as an audio transport would benefit by using the Firewire drive for their external library and USB for their transport purposes or vice versa as this isolates the data transmission from library to the external interface.
   Really love how Pure Music can upsample your sources to a target sample rate. In my case, my non-24/96 sources are upsampled to 24/96 which are then sent to my DAC. Oh the beauty of software upsampling. :)

Edit: I simplified my setup and removed the DAC, Buffer and Analog XO. It's now a bi-amped system with the Steinberg acting as both DAC and multichannel pre-amp with Pure Music acting as the Digital Active Crossover. This setup has now out resolved my ealier setup and the open baffle experience is something I may stick with for years to come :)

Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: vintagebob on 4 Nov 2010, 09:23 pm
My Mac Mini Audio System Description:

Mac mini processor model: 2010 2.4GHz 320GB
Operating system version: OSX 10.6.6
Hard drive type (internal only or external) size and type (stand alone or RAID): External OYEN Digital 1TB Firewire 800
Internal memory installed: 8GB

Monitor/keyboard: NONE
Wireless hardware: NONE
Software music player(s): Pure Music
Other method of controlling the mac mini (VNC, custom remotes, etc): VNC = Desktop Connect, Remote = Apple Remote (iPad & iPhone)

Amplifier, and type (eg. Solid state mono block, SET, Tube integrated):SS McCormack DNC250
Pre amplifier: ModWright LS100
External DAC: dB Audio Labs Tranquility Signature Edition with dB Audio Labs Signature USB cable
Other component(s) in chain between mini and speakers:
Speakers in this system: SALK HT2-TLs
Interconnect types  BJC
Location of the mac mini (eg. in the listening area, other room, or closet): Listening Area
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: bernardl on 26 Dec 2010, 04:00 am
My Mac Mini Audio System Description:

Mac mini processor model: 2010 2.4GHz 320GB
Operating system version: OSX 10.10.4, running fully in 64 bits (EFI, Kernel boot mode and Kernel)
Hard drive type: Internal OWC 200GB Mercury Extreme Pro RE SSD for OSX and apps, music stored in powered external Lacie 2GB fanless HDD connected with USB2.0
Internal memory installed: 8GB (OWC)

Monitor/keyboard: NONE
Wireless hardware: NONE
Software music player(s): Audirvana 2.1/iTunes 12
Other method of controlling the mac mini: Remote = Apple Remote on iPad Air

Amplifier: Devialet D250 hybrid A/D class running firmware 8.1.3
Pre amplifier: Devialet
External DAC: Devialet
Speakers in this system: Wilson Benesch Vector on top of Acoustic Revive RST-38 boards, connected to devialet with Viard Audio Design HD20 speaker cables and speaker straps,
Interconnect types:  Viard Audio USB cable/generic ethernet cable (when using AIR input)
Location of the mac mini: Listening Area in semi closed wooden audio rack
Mains: PS Audio P10 feeding an Esoteric 7N-PC9300 power cable.

Having easier to replace HD on the Mac Mini would be a major improvement.

I would sure hope not to touch any of the components for the next 10 years or so, but I guess that OS obsolescence might force me to do some changes on the Mac mini side.
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: Johnny2Bad on 15 Jan 2011, 03:17 pm
My Mac Mini Audio System Description:
Mac mini processor model: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.53 GHz
Operating system version: Mac OS X Server 10.6.6 build 1QJ567
Hard drive type (internal only or external) size and type (stand alone or RAID): 2x 500 GB Software RAID (Mirror); Audio on external 1TB drive via Firewire 800
Internal memory installed: 4 GB
Monitor/keyboard: None/None
Wireless hardware: Not enabled
Software music player(s): iTunes; Amadeus Pro
Other method of controlling the mac mini (VNC, custom remotes, etc): Screen Sharing via Gigabit Ethernet
Amplifier, and type (eg. Solid state mono block, SET, Tube integrated): Anthem AMP-1 stereo (vacuum tube) 40 wpc
Pre amplifier: Audio Experience Symphonies (vacuum tube)
External DAC:
Other component(s) in chain between mini and speakers:
Speakers in this system: Energy Connoisseur C-2; Energy ESW-C10 subwoofer
Interconnect types between mac mini and X:DIY analog to preamp
Location of the mac mini (eg. in the listening area, other room, or closet): Server Cabinet
Also provide comments on these:
a. If applicable, what is custom in this mac mini system?
b. What feature or function would you add to the mac mini if you could (keeping the system within a similar price range?
c. The part of your mac mini system that gives YOU the most satifaction/enjoyment ?
d. Other comments:



Comments:The Mini performs the following: as a file server and backup management to connected machines (obviously); a 24-7 security system with video storage (4 iSight 640x480p cameras) and as the primary digital audio device. No mp3's; all 16/44.1 or higher resolution.
There is an additional 1.5 TB FW 800 external drive which stores regular backups, including audio, and occasionally those are manually backed up to normally offsite stored drives.
Am considering adding Channel D Pure Music software to iTunes. The server performs without hiccups while going about the work I have assigned to it, including music playback.
A better DAC would be nice but will have to wait.
This replaced a G4 1.53 Mini which worked fine as a music server but could not handle the additional tasks I've assigned to the server. The Server version of Mac OS X is extremely robust compared to doing the same things on standard OS X w/ the G4.
Normally the server is controlled by a MacBook Pro via hardwired Ethernet (available at the listening position). WiFi and Bluetooth are disabled on all machines and the DSL modem.
What I like the best about it is it's effortlessness. Log into the server and play music from the listening chair, and it never, ever, gives me any grief. The server and drives are locked and out of sight. Reboots for software updates only.
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: mchuckp on 13 Feb 2011, 05:41 am
Anyone have any comments on if one needs to jack up the memory if your primary goal is audio playback?  The standard 1g good enough?  I don't mind going higher if it would have a positive effect.  Just don't like to spend money unnecessarily.  I'd likely do some video but I'm not a videophile so don't really care if it is perfect.  1st and foremost, audio.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: Atlplasma on 13 Feb 2011, 11:26 pm
I think it depends on what you are using for playback. Pure Music benefits from more ram. I just installed 8 GB in my Mini.
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: spartan2 on 3 May 2011, 12:52 pm
Hi,
Has anybody tried to change the PS of the new mini?
JM
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: spartan2 on 3 May 2011, 12:53 pm
I wonder if a linear PS built for the older mini can be adapted to the new one.
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: ultrafi on 3 May 2011, 01:15 pm
The old mini is 18 volts and something on the order of 7.5 amps peak, if I recall - it's a 110 watt unit.  The 2010 mini is 12 volts and 85 watts.  Both run on substantially less in ordinary operation.  So, possible; but, it is really over kill.

Either way the 2010 mini is sonically superior.  I dunno why people can't get this one straight.
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: brj on 3 May 2011, 01:37 pm
Quote from: ultrafi
Either way the 2010 mini is sonically superior.  I dunno why people can't get this one straight.

Why do you assume they don't have it straight?  Many people may simply have not be able to justify the funds to buy a new computer and are looking to make the best use of what they already own.
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: ultrafi on 3 May 2011, 02:23 pm
Simple. Because of what people say.  Face it, there are a number of folks out there professing that the earlier Mac mini, pre mid-2010, is superior to the 2010 Mac mini because it has an out- board power supply.  Nothing could be further from the truth.

I've owned, heard, and modified both, done the listening comparisons; and, frankly, there is no way that the pre-mid-2010 Mac mini can be made to sound better than the 2010 mini.  Ain't gonna happen.

It is cheaper to buy a new mini than mod an old one to try and get it to sound as good as the 2010.  Just the facts.
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: rpf on 3 May 2011, 03:24 pm
My Mac Mini Audio System Description:

Mac mini processor model:  2010 Mac mini 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
Operating system version:  OSX 10.6.7
Hard drive type (internal only or external) size and type (stand alone or RAID):  LaCie 3TB external HDD, with DataTale 3 TB HDD for backup.
Internal memory installed:  8 GB 1067 Mhz DDR3

Monitor/keyboard: 13" Macbook Pro via screen sharer.
Wireless hardware:  Airport Extreme
Software music player(s):   Itunes for now. Tried an earlier version of Pure Music and didn't care for it. About to try the various players again.
Other method of controlling the mac mini (VNC, custom remotes, etc): 
Amplifier, and type (eg. Solid state mono block, SET, Tube integrated):  Rogue Cronus Magnum Integrated.
Pre amplifier:
External DAC:  Eastern Electric Mini Max DAC
Other component(s) in chain between mini and speakers:  ART Legato asynchronous converter.
Speakers in this system:  Aural Acoustics Model B
Interconnect types between mac mini and X:  db Labs Essential USB cable and Cardas Lightning 15 digital cable.
Location of the mac mini (eg. in the listening area, other room, or closet):  In listening room.

Also provide comments on these:

a. If applicable, what is custom in this mac mini system?  Nothing yet.
b. What feature or function would you add to the mac mini if you could (keeping the system within a similar price range?  Internal SS drive.
c. The part of your mac mini system that gives YOU the most satifaction/enjoyment ?  Both the sound and ease of use.
d. Other comments:
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: ultrafi on 3 May 2011, 04:36 pm
Ok, figuring you're asking me.

I've found that HDD for storing music with an Oxford 943 chipset to sound best.  A Ridge Street Audio FW800 cable for the same is a nice improvement.

More memory is better.

SSD internal for the OS is better.

I prefer Fidelia from Audiofile Engineering.

I love the ease of use and the ready access to a wide variety of music afford by computer audio.

YMMV, enjoy.
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: ultrafi on 3 May 2011, 04:38 pm
Oh, most important, forgot to add the latest Enopias USB cable is awesome.  Heck, I designed the dB Labs Essential and I use the Enopias......
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: miniman on 3 May 2011, 05:15 pm
Hi. I'm new to the site but would like to share the details of my mini based system. I put this together in the Fall of 2007 and it's been an interesting trip since and ultimately very rewarding. I'm an older audio fan having cut my teeth on Heathkit projects and Jensen based custom speakers in the 50's.

Mac mini: 1.83 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB Ram (upgraded from 1 GB, did myself from OWC supplied memory), Mac OS X ver. 10.5.8.
External 1TB Rocstor HD with 2nd as backup (expensive in '07 but still running 3.5 years later).
HP monitor, Apple silver hardwired keyboard.
OWC supplied external Mercury Pro Super Multi Drive for ripping (burned up 3 drives in the mini ripping 2100 cd's). Now I use the Mercury.

This system is in a room by itself and connects first (hardwired) to a Linksys G router then hardwired (Cat5e) to music room where it connects to an Apple TV (version 2 now but had original) via ethernet cable. Out of the Apple via toslink (WireWorld Super Nova 6 Glass cable...a big improvement) to a Benchmark Dac 1 (internal jumpers of Benchmark set to 10db attentuation rather than 20 db as it comes from the factory...another big improvement) then to music system, Revel Performa F52 speakers, Marantz PM 11S1 integrated amp, dual James EMB 1200 subs, all in a room 19 X 25 X 10.

Music is controlled by by old Apple iPhone 3G with Remote App and controls the Apple TV and not the Mini. The Apple TV in turn controls the Mini. All music is streamed to the the ATV. Music is played by iTunes, all 25,000 plus songs (I have come to love Genius). The only usb connection in the system (music wise) is from the Rocstor HD to the mini. All music is in Apple Lossless with error correction turned on when ripped. This sytem has been relatively trouble free and very fun to use and VERY musical. My enjoyment of my music has never been as great. I love discovering musical gems I didn't know I owned or hadn't heard in years. The only improvement now I could imagine is replacing the mini's HD with a solid state drive. By the way, this system does nothing but play music, not used for anything else. Hope this information helps someone. Thanks
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: Crimson on 3 May 2011, 05:46 pm
Hi. I'm new to the site but would like to share the details of my mini based system.

Nice system. Welcome to Audio Circle!
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: wgscott on 10 Jun 2011, 05:06 am
This (http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?action=systems;area=browse;system=1568).

2010 mini client with HDMI to TV and glass optical or Halide Bridge to Peachtree Nova.  I've put in 8 gig of memory ($100 OWC) and use Audirvana in conjunction with iTunes.  I have the stock conventional internal drive, and a 1 TB external Oyen Digital Firewire drive for music and video storage.
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: ttate90303 on 17 Jun 2011, 02:57 am
How is your Apple Mac mini (http://www.apple.com/macmini/) set up as a music server or part of a digital music system?  Let's see your configuration whether you have a straight forward mac mini to integrated amp to bookshelfs or you have the mac mini connected to an external hard drive and connected into a distributed network to many systems. Please provide brands and models of the specific hardware, cabling, etc. used:

My Mac Mini Audio System Description:

  • Mac mini processor model:2.0GHz
  • Operating system version:10.6.7
  • Hard drive type (internal only or external) size and type (stand alone or RAID):160GB (internal) Oyen Digital 1TB (external)
  • Internal memory installed:4GB

  • Monitor/keyboard:Toshiba 40" HDTV G300U1 Apple Wireless Kybd/Magic Trackpad
  • Wireless hardware:
  • Software music player(s): Pure Music v1.8a
  • Other method of controlling the mac mini (VNC, custom remotes, etc):iPad

  • Amplifier, and type (eg. Solid state mono block, SET, Tube integrated):NAD T793 Power Amp SS
  • Pre amplifier:NAD T175 Preamp
  • External DAC: Rega DAC
  • Other component(s) in chain between mini and speakers:Denon 2200 SACD, Panamax M5100-PM
  • Speakers in this system:PSB Imagine B on Sanus PF30 Stands
  • Interconnect types between mac mini and Rega DAC: Audioquest Diamond USB & Audioquest Diamondback
  • Location of the mac mini (eg. in the listening area, other room, or closet):Livingroom on Salamander Synergy Twin 30 Rack

Also provide comments on these:

a. If applicable, what is custom in this mac mini system? No.
b. What feature or function would you add to the mac mini if you could (keeping the system within a similar price range?
c. The part of your mac mini system that gives YOU the most satifaction/enjoyment ? Ease of playback using iPad
d. Other comments: Love how simplified things have become using a Mac mini as my digital music server.
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: Crimson on 17 Jun 2011, 04:06 am
Very nice.

Welcome!
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: Uofmtiger on 19 Jun 2011, 07:51 pm
I thought I would get in on the fun:

Mac mini processor model:2.4GHz
Operating system version:10.6.7
Hard drive type (internal only or external) size and type (stand alone or RAID):320GB(internal), Buffalo Terabyte server, several Terabytes external drives (external)
Internal memory installed:4GB

Monitor/keyboard:I am using it with 3 displays:
63 inch Samsung Plasma, 42 inch Westinghouse LCD, Asus 26VW266H
Apple Wireless/Magic Trackpad
Wireless hardware:
Software music player(s): iTunes, Airfoil, MOG (considering Pure Music if I continue to add 24/96)
Other method of controlling the mac mini (VNC, custom remotes, etc):iPad, iPhone, Touch (logmein, spashtop remote, and Rowmote apps)

Amplifier, and type (eg. Solid state mono block, SET, Tube integrated): Denon 4311ci receiver feeds a couple Emotive UPA-1 amps for 2 channel), Marantz 2220B receiver, Heed Canamp
Pre amplifier:TC-754, the 4311CI is used as a preamp for 2 channel (I use its onboard amps for the other channels for surround)
External DAC: Cambridge DacMagic
Speakers in this system:Main system: Monitor Audio Silver RS6, LCR, RSFX, eD a2-300 sub.  Office system: 2 Insignia speakers for 2 channel (mainly listen to AKG k701s in this setup), logitech z-680 for movies
Interconnect types between mac mini and X:  Optical output to DacMagic
Location of the mac mini (eg. in the listening area, other room, or closet):Desk in office

Also provide comments on these:

a. If applicable, what is custom in this mac mini system? Nothing added
b. What feature or function would you add to the mac mini if you could (keeping the system within a similar price range?SSD
c. The part of your mac mini system that gives YOU the most satifaction/enjoyment ? Ability to play music all over the house, the ability to use it in my office setup and living room setup for audio and video.
d. Other comments: Bought the mini because I wanted to try OSX and not spend over $1000 with the experiment.  I also figured I could use it in the living room system if I did not like it for anything else.  I think I will eventually move up to an iMac for photo editing, but I will keep the mini around for music, although I will probably keep it where it is because sometimes it is easier working/updating on a 25.5 inch screen than a 63 inch screen. 
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: JohnR on 10 Aug 2011, 04:12 pm
It's taken me a few years to get this done...  :lol: but ere I am JH.




Also provide comments on these:

a. If applicable, what is custom in this mac mini system? The speakers, I suppose, since I designed/made them.
b. What feature or function would you add to the mac mini if you could (keeping the system within a similar price range? Coax output maybe. Although the Toslink seems to work pretty well. (The miniDSP has an async sample rate convertor on it so jitter may be less of an issue than other systems.) Not having a CD slot would be annoying if I didn't already have a USB superdrive.
c. The part of your mac mini system that gives YOU the most satifaction/enjoyment ? Apart from the sound? My fiancee likes using it too!
d. Other comments: I hadn't intended to use Toslink originally, but after mucking around with USB to SPDIF convertors I decided to just try it. Brilliant - another gizmo not needed (along with the CD player and DAC going up for sale ;) )
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: bclaw001 on 18 Aug 2011, 01:42 pm
My Mac Mini Audio System Description:




Also provide comments on these:

a. If applicable, what is custom in this mac mini system? I now use it mainly for audio recording auditions for my voice-over career - I have an AKG Perception 120 mic and a Blue Icicle USB mic preamp (and the Sound Studio recording app)
b. What feature or function would you add to the mac mini if you could (keeping the system within a similar price range? unfortunately I'm looking to sell most of the audio chain - except the speakers - and find a decent integrated amp ; the WAF (wife acceptance factor) is very low due to all the components and wires and I really don't get to just listen to music very much anymore
c. The part of your mac mini system that gives YOU the most satifaction/enjoyment ?  even though it's a 5+ year old Mini it really works very well as both a music server and a recording studio
d. Other comments: Here is my voice is on www.subaru.com narrating some web videos: http://www.subaru.com/engineering/all-wheel-drive.html (http://www.subaru.com/engineering/all-wheel-drive.html)
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: taddeus on 30 Sep 2011, 10:31 am

My Mac Mini Audio System Description:




Also provide comments on these:

a. If applicable, what is custom in this mac mini system? I now use it mainly for audio
b. What feature or function would you add to the mac mini if you could (keeping the system within a similar price range? USB -> S/P DIF
c. The part of your mac mini system that gives YOU the most satifaction/enjoyment ?  good music by a little box
d. Other comments:
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: Yoder54 on 13 Nov 2011, 11:39 pm
My Mac Mini Audio System Description:



Also provide comments on these:
Audio, and streaming video
b. What feature or function would you add to the mac mini if you could (keeping the system within a similar price range? Nada
c. The part of your mac mini system that gives YOU the most satisfaction/enjoyment ?  Amarra, NM24, and Crack
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Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: Crimson on 14 Nov 2011, 03:18 am
From an original Foreplay and crack user, welcome.  :wink:
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: targa02 on 17 Nov 2011, 06:57 am
I am a VERY happy computer audio enthusiast!


My Mac Mini Audio System Description:

      Mac mini processor model:2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo (early 2011)
      Operating system version: 10.6.8
      Hard drive type (internal only or external) size and type (stand alone or RAID): Oyen MiniPro Firewire 500GB
      Internal memory installed: 4GB MHz DDR3

      Monitor/keyboard: screen share from macbook pro
      Wireless hardware:

      Software music player(s): Pure Music and Spatial digital room correction (the bomb!)

      Other method of controlling the mac mini (VNC, custom remotes, etc): screen share, Apple remote, iPad, iPhone

      Amplifier, and type (eg. Solid state mono block, SET, Tube integrated): Amps built into speakers (active)

      Pre amplifier: Wyred 4 Sound DAC 2
      External DAC: see above

      Other component(s) in chain between mini and speakers: Empirical Audio Offramp 4 with Hynes regulators and Turboclock

      Speakers in this system: ATC SCM 50 ASLs

      Interconnect types between mac mini and X: W4S USB to Off Ramp 4; Liquid Air Digital cable between OR4 and W4S; Blue Jean XLR between W4S and ATCs

      Location of the mac mini (eg. in the listening area, other room, or closet): Listening Area

Also provide comments on these:

a. If applicable, what is custom in this mac mini system? Pure Music and Spatial
b. What feature or function would you add to the mac mini if you could (keeping the system within a similar price range? 
c. The part of your mac mini system that gives YOU the most satifaction/enjoyment ?  I love having all my music at my fingertips.  Room correction makes a HUGE difference!
d. Other comments:
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: jy3iix on 25 Mar 2012, 03:46 am

My Mac Mini Audio System Description:

2.4 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo
10.6.8
external NAS - QNAP TS-412, RAID 5 config
4Gb
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toshiba LCD TV, Apple bluetooth keyboard & trackpad
Dlink DIR-655
sbooth.org Decibel

X-Can V8 tube headphone amp
presently N/A but seriously looking at Mytek stereo192 DSD DAC
headphones only! - Audio Techica ATH-W1000
ordinary RCA
listening area
[/list]

Also provide comments on these:

a. If applicable, what is custom in this mac mini system?
b. What feature or function would you add to the mac mini if you could (keeping the system within a similar price range? Just the Mytek DAC, though the mini's onboard DAC is really fine with me
c. The part of your mac mini system that gives YOU the most satifaction/enjoyment ? wireless connection to the RAID, hi res flacs thru sbooth's brilliant piece of software - and the mini is  q u i e t !
d. Other comments:
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: shortcuttomoncton on 23 Jan 2013, 04:58 pm
My Mac Mini Audio System Description:

Mac mini processor model:  2012 Mac mini 2.3 GHz i7
Operating system version:  latest
Hard drive type (internal only or external) size and type (stand alone or RAID):  Internal Apple 1TB (music location); LaCie 3TB external HDD (video location)
Internal memory installed:  16 GB 1667 Mhz DDR3

Monitor/keyboard: HDMI out to Panasonic plasma TV; no keyboard/mouse
Wireless hardware:  Airport
Software music player(s):   iTunes
Other method of controlling the mac mini (VNC, custom remotes, etc):  iTeleport VPN on iPad; all music controlled by Remote app on iPad; general OS GUI control via Rii Touch N7 remote keyboard
Amplifier, and type (eg. Solid state mono block, SET, Tube integrated):  Butler TDB 2250
Pre amplifier: Bryston 1B
External DAC:  Home/Custom built AK4396-based DAC
Other component(s) in chain between mini and speakers:  n/a
Speakers in this system:  Energy 22 Reference Connoisseurs, Gallo Reference 3.0
Interconnect types between mac mini and X:  Blue Jeans audio stereo cables; no-name USB3 cable to external HDD; Black Sands Silver Reference MKV power cables for DAC/amp.
Location of the mac mini (eg. in the listening area, other room, or closet):  all electronics in listening room cabinet.

Also provide comments on these:

a. If applicable, what is custom in this mac mini system?  Nothing.
b. What feature or function would you add to the mac mini if you could (keeping the system within a similar price range?  Internal SSD.
c. The part of your mac mini system that gives YOU the most satifaction/enjoyment ?  Control of all audio via Remote app on iPad: easiest and best way to navigate through electronic music collections in my experience.
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: srb on 23 Jan 2013, 05:19 pm

External DAC:  Home/Custom built AK1396-based DAC

AK4396?
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: shortcuttomoncton on 23 Jan 2013, 06:27 pm
Heh heh, that's right - typo fixed. 
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: Thunder240 on 18 May 2013, 05:15 am
Hi all,

I just purchased a late 2009 Mac Mini (2.26 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 160 GB HDD, 2 GB RAM, Snow Leopard) for which I have two intended uses:

(1) Play music to my home theater via either optical or possibly a USB to SPIDF converter

(2) Serve music to a separate digital stereo system, which includes a set top box that is DNLA enabled.

I'll probably either use XBMC or JRiver for music playback (I haven't decided which, although since XBMC is free, I'll probably try it first and see how I like it before I pay money for JRiver).

The Mini will connect to my wireless network (the base station is a latest-gen Airport Express, 802.11n dual band). Other devices on the network include two other Airport Expresses (one which is connected to a PS3 by ethernet, the other which is connected to the DNLA-enabled set top box by ethernet), an Epson printer, a Macbook Pro and an iPhone 5.

I plan to buy an external hard drive to store my music, which leads to my questions for you all. First, what are the advantages of setting this external drive up as a NAS and connecting it by ethernet to the base station versus buying a Firewire enclosure and connecting it to the Mini directly? My instinct is that the main advantage of going the NAS route is that my Macbook Pro can access it over the network, as can the DNLA-enabled set top box, while I'm guessing the main advantage of going the firewire route is that it will improve the Mini's performance. If I go firewire, what would be the best way to configure the Mini to serve this music so that the DNLA set top box can see and stream the music that resides on the HDD? If I go the NAS route, will playback performance (on any of the devices) be substantially worse than if it is connected to the Mini by firewire? Finally are there other tradeoff's I'm not considering?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: jarcher on 18 May 2013, 06:51 am
I"m gonna guess that the only disadvantage of using an external firewire HDD to the Mac Mini vs NAS is that the Mac Mini would have to be on all the time (or perhaps set up for "wake up on LAN").  Then again, a Mac Mini hardly consumes much power - though perhaps a bit more than a NAS.

The disadvantage with a NAS - might be slightly more cost vs the external HDD, depending on what model you go with.  Some NAS also allow web access - so if you're away from home a lot & don't have other ways to carry or access your music, that might be a consideration.

I do a Mac Mini w/ a firewire 800 external HD.  I can remote control it w/ the apple Remote app on iphone & stream it through various devices (apple tv's / etc).  When I got a squeezebox & loaded the squeezebox server software on the mac mini, that was able to access the music on the external HD as well without a problem & stream it. 

Lastly, my Marantz receiver / processor that has network capability (including DLNA) and I've been able to stream music w/ the above set up.  I'm not sure if it's seeing / using the squeezebox server software, or accessing the HD via the mac directly, but in either case it works.  So if your DLNA device cant see the mac mini's external HD, loading & using the free squeezebox server software may resolve that problem

Also I think theoretically it doesn't matter to your DLNA devices if it's an external HD off a mac or a NAS -  they are both "network drives" for all intents & purposes. So you'd just have to point the DLNA device to the right address.

As for performance, I haven't noticed substantial lags - but I guess I'm used to a bit of a pause as I used Pure Music in memory play mode when I'm playing direct from the Mac Mini, and that has a small lag.  So I'm used to not have immediate nano-second gratification.

Hope that helps.......

P.S. I'd use iTunes w/ Pure Music vs XBMC or JRiver, particularly as you have an iphone to use as a remote w/ Remote App. Itunes + the app are free.  Pure Music isn't - but it helps to make itunes sound a lot better.

P.s.s.  In case you have an XBOX360, I've also been able to stream music / video / photos to an XBOX 360 using a low cost ($20) program called Connect360, which you load on the Mac. See : http://www.nullriver.com/products/connect360
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: Thunder240 on 18 May 2013, 11:43 pm
Ok, since I already own a 250 GB USB external hdd (which I bought probably 7 years ago), I'm gonna run a test and put some music on the drive, connect it to the Mini, and make it a shareable. If my set top box can see the drive and play its music (either with or without Squeezebox Server), then I'm gonna go the FireWire route. If it can't, then I'll go with a NAS. The reason I'm opting for FireWire is that I already get momentary drops due to interference (there are several other wifi networks in the building), and I am planning to build my hi-res library, so bandwidth counts. If I can reduce the extent to which I am relying on my network to play music, that's a good thing. Also, it occurred to me that I might eventually want to use the mini as a HTPC, and if I do, it will help to have videos stored locally. So hopefully the Mini passes my little test and I can buy a FireWire drive!

On another note, it was my understanding that both JRiver and XBMC have iphone remote aps. Is that not the case? If they do, why do you prefer PureMusic's remote? Are there additional reasons you'd go with PureMusic?

Many thanks for sharing your experience!


I"m gonna guess that the only disadvantage of using an external firewire HDD to the Mac Mini vs NAS is that the Mac Mini would have to be on all the time (or perhaps set up for "wake up on LAN").  Then again, a Mac Mini hardly consumes much power - though perhaps a bit more than a NAS.

The disadvantage with a NAS - might be slightly more cost vs the external HDD, depending on what model you go with.  Some NAS also allow web access - so if you're away from home a lot & don't have other ways to carry or access your music, that might be a consideration.

I do a Mac Mini w/ a firewire 800 external HD.  I can remote control it w/ the apple Remote app on iphone & stream it through various devices (apple tv's / etc).  When I got a squeezebox & loaded the squeezebox server software on the mac mini, that was able to access the music on the external HD as well without a problem & stream it. 

Lastly, my Marantz receiver / processor that has network capability (including DLNA) and I've been able to stream music w/ the above set up.  I'm not sure if it's seeing / using the squeezebox server software, or accessing the HD via the mac directly, but in either case it works.  So if your DLNA device cant see the mac mini's external HD, loading & using the free squeezebox server software may resolve that problem

Also I think theoretically it doesn't matter to your DLNA devices if it's an external HD off a mac or a NAS -  they are both "network drives" for all intents & purposes. So you'd just have to point the DLNA device to the right address.

As for performance, I haven't noticed substantial lags - but I guess I'm used to a bit of a pause as I used Pure Music in memory play mode when I'm playing direct from the Mac Mini, and that has a small lag.  So I'm used to not have immediate nano-second gratification.

Hope that helps.......

P.S. I'd use iTunes w/ Pure Music vs XBMC or JRiver, particularly as you have an iphone to use as a remote w/ Remote App. Itunes + the app are free.  Pure Music isn't - but it helps to make itunes sound a lot better.

P.s.s.  In case you have an XBOX360, I've also been able to stream music / video / photos to an XBOX 360 using a low cost ($20) program called Connect360, which you load on the Mac. See : http://www.nullriver.com/products/connect360
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: neekomax on 19 May 2013, 12:01 am
I have no experience/opinion on the networked drive thing, as I just use the local drive in my Mac Mini for my server.

But I do have an opinion on JRiver vs. Pure Music. I've tried both (and others), and I am very happy having settled on JRiver. The main reason is that it's incredibly feature-rich compared to any other player software I've tried. The DSP studio is awesome, and you can use VST plugins, for example. Very powerful. I also like the organizational aspect of it. It's still in Beta, so there are some glitches, but it plays music beautifully.

The only caveat being that if your system is headless or you really need to control everything without being able to see your monitor, I'm not sure there are good apps yet for controlling JRiver Mac with an iPad, for example. With PM/iTunes, of course, you can use the excellent Remote app for iOS.
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: jarcher on 19 May 2013, 12:27 am
I haven't personally used JRiver, so can't really comment, nor on the app or the phone / tablet remote options.  I choose Pure Music (vs Audiovarna or Ammarra) for two reasons:

(1) Works on top of / with iTunes - and I just had all my digital music in an iTunes library & got used to using iTunes.  I.e. I didn't really want to move to a different media library management software - which I would have to do with e.g. JRiver (which at the time I don't think had a OSX version).

Pure Music is operationally almost transparent - you can still use the free apple Remote app on the iphone / ipad / etc, it has a "playthrough" mode for radio stations, etc.  There are a lot of options available w/ Pure Music, but they are mostly ones I don't need / use, so once I set it up with the parameters I needed / wanted, I can run it in minimized mode & almost don't notice (visually) that it's there.

(2) In "Memory Play" mode in particular there is a notable improvement in sound quality over stock iTunes.  Any alternative to iTunes as a music player in my opinion needs to have that option, and that option should be used.  There's something about placing the track in memory vs being read in real time off the HD that really helps to clean up the sound.

Lastly, it's nice that the license is usable on unlimited computers (if you own them, one at a time, blah, blah which they can't monitor or enforce). I think Audiovarna & Amarra offer the options mentioned above as well, but either they were more expensive or there was something else uncompetitive about them.  I did the trial & can't recall a big sonic difference among the three.

Last minor suggestion on external hard drive - Pure Music among other recommends for optimal playback that if you use the USB port to stream music out, that you use Firewire for the HD, and vice versa (though Firewire DAC's are rare).  So I did just out of audio nervosa (USB out to USB / SPDIF convertor, Firewire 800 for external HD).  The firewire 800 HD (a portable WD unit that has the same snazzy aluminun case cosmetics) has snappy performance.  Don't really notice any delay vs when I had the files on the internal hard drive (now no longer big enough).

Another "lastly" - wifi - even slower versions - typically has enough speed for simple audio files.  There's the possibility of interference from other wifi - in which case changing the default channel (or going to a higher frequency if possible) on the router might help.  In my case I only got what sounded like drop outs when I used an Apple Airport Express via the optical out, but the problem I think was that the Mac (an Imac) had too many programs running in background & the AE perhaps didn't have (or not enough of) a buffer.  Never had that problem with the squeezebox duet (or come to think of it with an Apple TV2).

Best of luck.

Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: poseidonsvoice on 19 May 2013, 01:47 am
I have no experience/opinion on the networked drive thing, as I just use the local drive in my Mac Mini for my server.

But I do have an opinion on JRiver vs. Pure Music. I've tried both (and others), and I am very happy having settled on JRiver. The main reason is that it's incredibly feature-rich compared to any other player software I've tried. The DSP studio is awesome, and you can use VST plugins, for example. Very powerful. I also like the organizational aspect of it. It's still in Beta, so there are some glitches, but it plays music beautifully.

The only caveat being that if your system is headless or you really need to control everything without being able to see your monitor, I'm not sure there are good apps yet for controlling JRiver Mac with an iPad, for example. With PM/iTunes, of course, you can use the excellent Remote app for iOS.

There is a way to control JRiver headlessly:

http://www.jremote.net/

Best,
Anand.
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: Thunder240 on 19 May 2013, 11:49 pm
Quick update:

The test was passed -- no issues streaming music from XBMC via a USB external. To do so, I had to configure XBMC's built-in UPnP server. So I am going to go with a FireWire HDD.

The test revealed a problem with XBMC however. Namely, XBMC for Mac OS X won't serve hi-res WAV files (although it will play them locally). And the ONLY hi-res format that my stupid set top box will play is WAV (it won't play hi-res FLAC or ALAC). So, either I wait for XBMC to get fixed (I'm sure it'll happen but probably not very quickly), or I replace the set top box with something that's more flexible (very tempting), or I give PureMusic or JRiver a try. 

I have several questions about PureMusic and JRiver, but I recognize that this isn't the purpose of this thread, so rather than ask them here, I'll post a new thread or find another that seems to be more on point. Thanks to you all for the helpful advice.
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: lextek on 19 Jan 2015, 06:45 pm


My Mac Mini Audio System Description:

Mac mini processor model:2014 base model 1.4 cDual Core
Operating system version: Mavericks
Hard drive type (internal only or external) size and type (stand alone or RAID):  internal 500 gig
Internal memory installed: 4 gigs

Monitor/keyboard: Visio TV.  No keyboard.  I use Remotix with an iPad.
Wireless hardware: Appple mouse
Software music player(s):Audivarna
Other method of controlling the mac mini (VNC, custom remotes, etc): Remotix with iPad or Remote app

Amplifier, and type (eg. Solid state mono block, SET, Tube integrated): NAD 316BEE integrated
Pre amplifier:
External DAC: Audioquest Cragonfly 1.0 or Cambridge Audio DACMagic
Other component(s) in chain between mini and speakers: None yet.  Thinking about adding an Ifi Itube
Speakers in this system: Paradigm Atoms v.1 and Paradigm sub.
Interconnect types between mac mini and X: Kimber
Location of the mac mini (eg. in the listening area, other room, or closet): Small spare bedroom/music room

Looking to upgrade speakers next.
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: davidavdavid on 15 Aug 2016, 03:34 pm
Tha Mac Mini late 2012 has been and continues to be my saviour, so much so that I have stocked up on 3 of them, all configured exactly the same, so if and when one dies, i have another waiting to be swapped in.
My hard drives are mirrored - 2  8TB Seagate drives - are housed in a 2 drive ICY DOCK enclosure available from OWC

No problem running El Capitan at all and am running Audirvana + 1.5x software for playback
XLD for dealing with cue files
MAX for dealing with format conversions
METADATICS for dealing with metadata
VLC/QUICKTIME for video content

DAC = exaSound e22 connected to the Mac Mini via USB, Fosgate via USB, CentranceDX via USB
AMPLIFIER = Parasound Halo 2.1 with its own 32/384 PCM - 64/128/256 DSD   DAC

I have wifi, spotlight, and all unnecessary system software shut down.
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: LarryMagoo on 15 Mar 2017, 10:16 pm
Mac mini processor model:  Late 2012 2.6Ghz i7 Quad Proc. Outboard P/S with stock P/S removed. Total Black Silence during quite passages
Operating system version: Mac OS Sierra 10.12.3
Hard drive type (internal only or external) size and type (stand alone or RAID):  1TB SSD and 1TB HDD for Time Machine both internal
Internal memory installed:16 GB

Monitor/keyboard: Wireless Apple
Wireless hardware: older Apple Airport Extreme
Software music player(s): Roon
Other method of controlling the mac mini (VNC, custom remotes, etc): Roon or Apple

Amplifier, and type (eg. Solid state mono block, SET, Tube integrated): Sunfire Signature 5 channel
Pre amplifier: Marantz 8801
External DAC: Oppo HA-1
Other component(s) in chain between mini and speakers: Jitter Bug, Oppo HA-1 Headphone/DAC Looking into getting either a Schiit Gumby or Yggy I run my Roon Speaker Music through my Oppo 105's DAC...but again getting with the Gumby or Yggy for that as well.
Speakers in this system:Monitor Audio Golds (5) and Velodyne HG-12's (2)
Interconnect types between mac mini and X: AQ Pearl USB Cable
Location of the mac mini (eg. in the listening area, other room, or closet): Stacked on top of my DDRC Dirac Live Room Calibrator with the stacks of my gear in my Theater Room
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: tarquineous on 11 Jun 2017, 08:09 pm
How is your Apple Mac mini (http://www.apple.com/macmini/) set up as a music server or part of a digital music system?  Let's see your configuration whether you have a straight forward mac mini to integrated amp to bookshelfs or you have the mac mini connected to an external hard drive and connected into a distributed network to many systems. Please provide brands and models of the specific hardware, cabling, etc. used:

My Mac Mini Audio System Description:

  • Mac mini processor model:
  • Operating system version:
  • Hard drive type (internal only or external) size and type (stand alone or RAID):
  • Internal memory installed:

  • Monitor/keyboard:
  • Wireless hardware:
  • Software music player(s):
  • Other method of controlling the mac mini (VNC, custom remotes, etc):

  • Amplifier, and type (eg. Solid state mono block, SET, Tube integrated):
  • Pre amplifier:
  • External DAC:
  • Other component(s) in chain between mini and speakers:
  • Speakers in this system:
  • Interconnect types between mac mini and X:
  • Location of the mac mini (eg. in the listening area, other room, or closet):

Also provide comments on these:

a. If applicable, what is custom in this mac mini system?
b. What feature or function would you add to the mac mini if you could (keeping the system within a similar price range?
c. The part of your mac mini system that gives YOU the most satifaction/enjoyment ?
d. Other comments:

I use a 2011 Mac Mini, modified by Mojo Audio. Version 10.8.5. 4GB memory.
Has outboard power supply. Great improvement when using a Synergistic Atmosphere 2 power cord.

I use two outputs : USB to Lampizator DSD DAC. Firewire cable to Weiss converter which has AES/EBU output to second DAC. Second DAC is Northstar Extremo DAC.

Accessories which improve the USB connection are : 1. Lessloss USB Firewall (better than Audioquest Jitterbug). 2. USB Disruptor ( 5 volt power supply inserted at DAC input). 3. Audioprism Waveguide ( a two piece magnet assembly which attaches over USB cable).

I like using the MAC equalizer function. I do not hear degradation of the sound, like we usually get with external equalizers.

I use iTunes and plan to investigate Audirvana and others. Any experienced suggestions are welcome !

My MAC Mini rests on an Atomic Labs anti resonant base. I've tried a few different footers under the base, but did not get a sonic improvement over the small cones supplied with the base. I even tried Stillpoints with no improvement.

The firewire cable I use is made by Oyaide. Have not tried other brands yet. I find a 1" clamp on ferrite works to improve the Firewire cable. I generally avoid ferrites, but do try them.

For ripping, I use the small MAC unit place on top of the MAC Mini. I experience no interference with this placement.

To operate everything, i have an HP screen, a MAC wireless keyboard, and a wired mouse.

Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: paulg on 2 Apr 2018, 02:32 am


How is your Apple Mac mini (http://www.apple.com/macmini/) set up as a music server or part of a digital music system?  Let's see your configuration whether you have a straight forward mac mini to integrated amp to bookshelfs or you have the mac mini connected to an external hard drive and connected into a distributed network to many systems. Please provide brands and models of the specific hardware, cabling, etc. used:

My Mac Mini Audio System Description:

i5 2.6 GHz 2014
High Sierra 10.13.3
La Cie 8 Terrabyte
16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
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Sony 55"/Apple wireless kb/Apple CD drive
Apple Magic Pad
iTunes Library

multiple SS stereo pairs, all Parasound Halo A23, except bass which is Samson MXS300
SS, Parasound Halo P3
using selectable Toslink inputs on CD player, Cambridge 840C
active crossovers configured 4-way, dbx 224xs and 223xs
each channel:Cetec Gauss 18" sub below 70 Hz SQB3 aligned/10" Dynaudio bass-mid below 700 Hz x 2/Morel soft dome upper mid below 3500 Hz x 2/ Heil Elite AMT tweeter/no passive crossovers are used/all enclosures designed and built by me
Toslink to DAC (AudioQuest Cinnamon)/RCA to preamp (AudioQuest Chicago)/all other XLR balanced, custom wired by me using Neutrik connectors and hi-quality mic cable/speaker wires are just really large OFC
listening room
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Also provide comments on these:

a. If applicable, what is custom in this mac mini system?
b. What feature or function would you add to the mac mini if you could (keeping the system within a similar price range?
c. The part of your mac mini system that gives YOU the most satifaction/enjoyment ?
d. Other comments:
This library contains only rips of CDs. All files are ALAC (Apple lossless). No lossy files (e.g. MP3 downloads). All music is purchased as CD. ALAC files on this system are indistinguishable (by me) from the CD. So one of the things I like about this setup is that I can navigate the entire library and immediately play anything using the Magic Pad.








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Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: kevinahern1 on 6 Apr 2019, 04:23 pm


My Mac Mini Audio System Description: Late 2012
Mac mini processor model:Intel Core i5 2.5 GHz
Operating system version: Sierra 10.12.6
Hard drive type (internal only or external) size and type (stand alone or RAID): 3 TB USB Stand Alone
Internal memory installed:16 GB

Monitor/keyboard: None
Wireless hardware: Built-in
Software music player(s): Roon
Other method of controlling the mac mini(VNC, custom remotes, etc): Screen Sharing

Amplifier, and type (eg. Solid state mono block, SET, Tube integrated): NuPrime IDA-8 SS (Integrated)
Pre amplifier: N/A
External DAC: N/A
Other component(s) in chain between mini and speakers: Allo USBridge
Speakers in this system: Tekton Design Lores
Interconnect types between mac mini and Allo USBridge:Ethernet cable> home network
Location of the mac mini (eg. in the listening area, other room, or closet): Adjacent room


Also provide comments on these:

a. If applicable, what is custom in this mac mini system? Nothing
b. What feature or function would you add to the mac mini if you could (keeping the system within a similar price range? Faster processor
c. The part of your mac mini system that gives YOU the most satifaction/enjoyment? Simplicity
d. Other comments: This configuration has been extremely easy to implement and sounds absolutely terrific.
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: JLM on 7 Apr 2019, 10:47 am
Just purchased source system used:

Mini: mid 2011
operating system: High Sierra 10.13.6
processor:  2.7 GHz i7
memory: 16 GB
internal drives: 256 GB SSD (operating software, stripped down to audio essentials) & 1 TB SSD (music)
external drives:  Oyen RAID with (2) 1 TB SSD connected via a 1.0 meter AQ Carbon Firewire 800 cable

monitor/keyboard/mouse: none (use VNC software to control from my MacBook Air)
control/internet connections: wireless from MacBook Air to hardwired ethernet to mini
signal connection to DAC: WireWorld Silver Starlight 7 1.0 meter USB cable

DAC/preamp:  PS Audio DirectStream Junior
Left/right subwoofers: PreSonus T10 connected with 15ft XLR cable
Third subwoofer: CSS 10 inch XBL^2 sealed cabinet with SD300 plate amp
Monitors: JBL 708P connected via 10ft XLR cable

room:  8ft x 13ft x 21ft (Cardas Golden Cuboid - Fibonacci ratios), well insulated
set up: mid-field (roughly 75 inch equilateral triangle), 64 inches from front wall, 40 inches from side walls
electrical service:  (3) cryo'd hospital grade duplex receptacles, each on a dedicated 12 gauge/20 amp circuit, and grounded together independent from the rest of the house, house has it's own transformer
treatments:  (10) GIK 244 panels (4 across front, 2 on each side, 2 on back wall) and (3) randomly filled tall side wall bookcases
rack/stands:  Timbernation, stands each filled with 50 pounds of sand, rack is 22 inches by 16 inches by 13 inches
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: planet10 on 7 Apr 2019, 10:51 pm
I haven’t updated my system description for awhile.

Mini: mid 2010 (with a DXD drive built-in)
operating system: High Sierra 10.13.6
processor:  2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo
memory: 8 GB
internal drives: 128 GB SSD (operating software, stripped down to audio essentials) & 1 TB Firewire (music)

monitor/keyboard/mouse: none (hooked to the TV but i typically use Screen Share  to control from my MacBook Pro)
control/internet connections: wireless
signal connection to DAC: AudioQuest Carbon USB cable (unlike the FireWire cable this made next to no difference)

DAC/preamp/amp:  Schitt Gungnir MultiBit, Rotel RC570/Firstwatt SIT3
Speakers:change often, Today it is our big MTM ML-TLs (with 250 Hz XO point)

room/set up::  house very much built around hifi litening (https://www.diyaudio.com/archive/blogs/comments/comment1028.html)
electrical service: boringly normal

dave
rack/stands:  custo Bernie built solid wood.
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: audioengr on 8 Apr 2019, 12:49 am
I have the same late 2009 Mac Mini and I added a Hynes supply, which I modded to speed-up.  I also replaced the HD with SSD and increased the DRAM.  Boots really fast now.  I use the fast peripheral connection to interface to an external RAID1.

I have compared literally all of the playback software available for USB output as well as Ethernet output (Jriver, Audirvana, Foobar, Linn Kinsky, Twonky, and many versions of Amarra.  The best is an older version of Amarra, which I can make available to you if you are using up to El Capitan OS and have an Amarra license.  The latest version is pretty good too.  You can load either one once you have the license.

If you want to use an Off-Ramp 5 USB converter or M2Tech Hyface, you will need to stay with Snow Leopard.  M2Tech has not released new drivers for Mac.  The newest version of OS that will work with your Mini is El Capitan. This is what I'm running on it in order to enable network playback.

The one thing that will make your USB sing from the Mac Mini, apart from the LPS is to add a SOtM tx-USBUltra:

[urlhttps://sotm-usa.com/products/tx-usbultra-regenerator][/url]

The best sounding USB port on that Mini is the second one in from the middle.

You should also get the best USB cable you can afford, like Wireworld Platinum or Audioquest Diamond.

My Ethernet renderer left USB in the dust, even my new Off-Ramp 6, until I added the tx-USBUltra.  Now, USB is king again.

Forget about Firewire.  Get a NAS or a Raid1 that attaches to the Mini for your music.  Just use wired Ethernet for your streaming and even local playback.  Your DLNA-enabled device is likely to have a LOT of jitter, so don't get your hopes up.  Music and movie audio needs low jitter to sound decent.

Try Linn Kinsky/minimserver/BubbleUPnP combination.  This is the best playback I have found for DLNA devices.  All free downloads.

BTW, If you have a Home Theater, you should get one of these, maybe 2 or 3:

https://www.amazon.com/IFI-iPurifier-Digital-Optical-Optimizer/dp/B01KKFTM5S/ref=sr_1_fkmrnull_1_sspa?crid=3FGF6ACO5YVLA&keywords=ifi+spdif+ipurifier&qid=1554685024&s=gateway&sprefix=iFi+spdi%2Caps%2C187&sr=8-1-fkmrnull-spons&psc=1&smid=A2763VQ7SN6URD (https://www.amazon.com/IFI-iPurifier-Digital-Optical-Optimizer/dp/B01KKFTM5S/ref=sr_1_fkmrnull_1_sspa?crid=3FGF6ACO5YVLA&keywords=ifi+spdif+ipurifier&qid=1554685024&s=gateway&sprefix=iFi+spdi%2Caps%2C187&sr=8-1-fkmrnull-spons&psc=1&smid=A2763VQ7SN6URD)

This will improve your digital feed from Blu-Ray player, set-top box, cable-box and Smart TV.  Connect it with this outstanding Toslink cable:

https://btpa.com/TOSLINK-XXX.html (https://btpa.com/TOSLINK-XXX.html)

The iPurifier lowers jitter from all of these devices to around 100psec.  Much better clarity for movies and TV.  Make it even better by powering from a SBooster at 5VDC.

Steve N.
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: Phoca on 14 Jun 2019, 01:09 am
Hahaha!  This thread has lived a long life.  So I'll keep it alive.  Here's my details:

Mac mini processor model: roughly 2005, don't know the model #, don't care
Operating system version: snow leopard
Hard drive type (internal only or external) size and type (stand alone or RAID): stock (don't recall)
Internal memory installed: Stock 4GB?

Monitor/keyboard:  None - I use a wifi connection and screen sharing or Apple Remote on my iPhone.  Both use wake on LAN.
Software music player(s): iTunes for now (don't have much time to figure out if anything else would work
Other method of controlling the mac mini (VNC, custom remotes, etc):  None

Amplifier, and type (eg. Solid state mono block, SET, Tube integrated):  DIY SET spud amp (13EM7 tube)
Pre amplifier:  Bottlehead Quickie (DIY kit)
External DAC:  LEAF Audio XMOS usb dac
Other component(s) in chain between mini and speakers: Nothing
Speakers in this system:  DIY transmission line Pioneer "BOFU" designed by Nelson Pass, built by yours truly.
Interconnect types between mac mini and X:  generic
Location of the mac mini (eg. in the listening area, other room, or closet):  Near, but not next to, system.  I had it much closer but would hear polling noises through the speakers when it was "talking" with the router.

I like using the Mini this way (and it has WAY outlasted it's rightful life this way).  I also like that the mini looks like another piece of gear, not a computer, yet I can use it just like a computer...remotely!  But it's limited.  A lot of my current music won't play via the version of iTunes I have on the mini.  And I generally don't like iTunes.  Maybe I'll search for a better way to serve up the music.
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: rushfan71 on 8 Jul 2019, 03:20 pm
2014 Mac Mini  2.6Ghz Intel I5 Dual Core
8GB RAM
1TB HDD
Teradak external power supply
Mac OS Mohave
HP 22"er HD Display (Headless when streaming music)
Apple magic keyboard Logitech trackball mouse
Apple iPad

Metrum Acoustics Pavane NOS DAC
MQA module upgrade and I2S module replaces the USB input

Metrum Acoustics Ambre Roon End Point (In the mail from the Netherlands as of this posting)

Primaluna Dialogue Preamplifier NOS Telefunken ECC82's with NOS Amperex 5AR4 Rectifier tubes

Primaluna Dialogue HP Power Amplifier CBS Hytron 5814A's with stock El 34's

Vintage Advent Maestro 3 way floor standers restored and upgraded XO with Clarity Caps (currently looking for their replacement)

Power Cables: Pangea 14 SE MK (my first try with after market power cables. Didn't dive in just dipped a toe for now)

IC's: Mogami 2534 with Nuetrik RCA (same as with power cable experimenting)

IC for pre to power amp: Quicksilver pure silver RCA on the way, finally off back order. These were suggested to me seeing how I use tube power and preamps.
If anyone would like to add their thoughts to that please do.

Klipsch R120SW 12" subwoofer
SVS Interconnects
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: jtconte on 13 May 2020, 01:33 pm
Hello, I use a Mac mini in a Roon based music system. An iMac has the Roon Core and is connected via Ethernet to the Mac mini which the output via USB to an iFi Audio nano iUSB3.0 > iFi micro iDAC2 > Marantz SR6009 > Monitor Audio SoundFrame 2's and it sounds darn good. Especially after I replaced the stock Apple power cable of the Mac mini.
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: jeraldej on 2 Jan 2021, 05:29 pm
My Mac Mini Audio System Description:




Also provide comments on these:

a. If applicable, what is custom in this mac mini system? I installed the RAM and 2nd internal drive. I'm using a WyWires power cable that plugs in directly to the Mini
b. What feature or function would you add to the mac mini if you could (keeping the system within a similar price range? Ignoring cost, I've considered https://www.mojo-audio.com/2010_mac_mini_upgrades/ (https://www.mojo-audio.com/2010_mac_mini_upgrades/)
c. The part of your mac mini system that gives YOU the most satifaction/enjoyment ? The mac mini is a component in my audio system. It's the music that gives me the most joy
d. Other comments: I'm familiar with computers and wanted to work with what I know rather than buy a turnkey system, although I can appreciate that an integrated digital music server and DAC would also be a good choice because there would be fewer components in my rack
Title: Re: Apple Mac mini system descriptions
Post by: EstrangedBaron on 5 May 2023, 04:19 pm
My Mac Mini Audio System Description:




Also provide comments on these:

a. If applicable, what is custom in this mac mini system? Installed the TeraDak 12V Mac Mini LPS mod and am currently running it off of their provided LPS, may upgrade my LPS later down the line.
b. What feature or function would you add to the mac mini if you could (keeping the system within a similar price range? I wish iTunes natively supported FLAC files.
c. The part of your mac mini system that gives YOU the most satifaction/enjoyment ? The reliability, I haven't had a single major crash or problem using it as a server thus far. I started using it as a Roon server, and later switched to LMS. Do miss a few things about Roon so I may switch back, but LMS is free so that's nice lol.
d. Other comments: I originally considered going the Roon ROCK route and getting an Intel NUC. But since I already had the M1 Mac Mini I decided to just use that and eventually installed the LPS mod inside of it. Maybe I'll upgrade to a dedicated streamer in the future, but for now I am happy with the performance and reliability of my M1 Mac Mini.