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Audio/Video Gear and Systems => Owner's Circles => Virtue Audio Owners => Topic started by: maxwalrath on 15 Jun 2009, 04:12 am
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...and what were your thoughts of the comparison? Most of the reviews I've read so far were stand-alone, not the shootout variety.
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Stereo Mojo did a good shoot out here:
http://www.stereomojo.com/MINI%20AMP%20SHOOTOUT/MINIAMPSHOOTOUT.htm (http://www.stereomojo.com/MINI%20AMP%20SHOOTOUT/MINIAMPSHOOTOUT.htm)
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My intentions. I bought 2 Hlly t-20 amps from ebay 150.00 for both. These amps employ the TA-2020 Tripath chips. I downloaded the data sheet for the chipset. The amps will get the caps upgraded with Sanyo SEPC's. But also i noticed that pin 30 is a 5v regulator for pins 2 and 8. My plan is to snip pin 30 and replace with a low noise regulator to supply pins 2 and 8. I will use a Jacobs Accuvolt i had lying around for power supply (battery powered). Will compare these amps to my Virtue 2 when finished. The Hlly's have their work cut out for them, this Virtue is a great little amp. Can't wait for the Sensation to roll out. :thumb:
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My intentions. I bought 2 Hlly t-20 amps from ebay 150.00 for both. These amps employ the TA-2020 Tripath chips. I downloaded the data sheet for the chipset. The amps will get the caps upgraded with Sanyo SEPC's. But also i noticed that pin 30 is a 5v regulator for pins 2 and 8. My plan is to snip pin 30 and replace with a low noise regulator to supply pins 2 and 8. I will use a Jacobs Accuvolt i had lying around for power supply (battery powered). Will compare these amps to my Virtue 2 when finished. The Hlly's have their work cut out for them, this Virtue is a great little amp. Can't wait for the Sensation to roll out. :thumb:
You need to make a fair comparison between TA2020 ie HLLY amp(rated 15W max)and TK2050(virtue amp,rated about 30W) otherwise Virtue would easily trounce HLLY. Both should be played with high efficient speakers, >92db and music played at reasonable volume.
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FYI, the Virtue ONE is really 2 x TK2050 because we're using 2 output chips in fully bridged mono mode. RMS at 4 ohms is 89wpc, dead clean (< 0.1% THD). To get the full power from the amp, you'd need a 200w supply at 30v.
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Today I got a Nuforce IA-7 v2 on loan from a friend. He asked me to compare it to Virtue 2...
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Today I got a Nuforce IA-7 v2 on loan from a friend. He asked me to compare it to Virtue 2...
I'll be interested in your observations. I'd be more interested in a compare of the Nuforce Icon (with a decent power supply) to the Virtue.
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Today I got a Nuforce IA-7 v2 on loan from a friend. He asked me to compare it to Virtue 2...
I'll be interested in your observations. I'd be more interested in a compare of the Nuforce Icon (with a decent power supply) to the Virtue.
I promise to write more later when I am in the mood. Meanwhile, I can say that both Nuf and Virtue2 are very capable in making music. Both are very detailed. None of them is harsh. Speaking of sonic inclination, Nuf vs Virtue2 is like comparing a very expensive SS to a very expensive single ended triode tube amp...differerent but both trying to reach the same nirvana. Nuforce is much more expensive however.
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But I think ours cost more to make... which makes NuForce a brilliant business. Their technology clearly has potential but I think that Virtue has let the cat out of the bag; you can have a reference amplifier for $500-ish. So where does that leave the Icon? If they make it better, nobody would buy the IA and Reference series. We don't have sacred cows that we can't sacrifice so we go for more and more value with every model. If we're different but equal (or nearly) with the TWO, I'm really excited to see how the THREE and Sensation stack up. Additionally, you learned here that we are working on a "worse" Virtue amplifier that we can sell for less money and with more features, like the Icon... but of course another no-regret product... more later...
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Hi folks I am from germany and just in time read the topic title. I own(ed) and listened to much Class D amps till now.
The following were checked up by me:
- Nuforce Icon
- Trends TA 10.1
- Winsome Labs Mouse
- Poppulse T Amp (first version)
- Silverstone EB02
- Nuforce IA-7 V2
- Virtue Audio Two (Seth will find out who I am)
I don?t want tp make some of the list bad. In fact all of them are really bargains. But two of the list
play a special part meanwhile in my present audio experiences:
Nuforce IA-7 V2 and the Virtue Audio Two. This could be an interesting comparison as both are mentioned meanwhile. Both are beasts in within their own particular natures. More to tell you soon ...
To get the full power from the amp, you'd need a 200w supply at 30v.
Hi Seth can you recommend a brand for clean powersupply also available in germany ?? I want to
check up a more powerful one. You know: the better is the good ones enemy :-)
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Check your local distributor for Cosel supplies @ 30v. You may be able to find on eBay over there as well. Make sure to use a 2.1/5.5" plug when you wire it up.
The ada600f-30 looks like a bargain @ $259 in small quantities... 600w with fan, 350w without.
http://www.trcelectronics.com/Cosel/ada600f-30.shtml
If you buy a 36v unit, it can only be dialed down to 33v which we don't recommend on the ONE/TWO. Could blow it up... The 30v can be dialed up to 33v which is about right for ~RMS 150wpc @ 4ohms.
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Hi folks I am from germany and just in time read the topic title. I own(ed) and listened to much Class D amps till now.
The following were checked up by me:
- Nuforce Icon
- Trends TA 10.1
- Winsome Labs Mouse
- Poppulse T Amp (first version)
- Silverstone EB02
- Nuforce IA-7 V2
- Virtue Audio Two (Seth will find out who I am)
I don?t want tp make some of the list bad. In fact all of them are really bargains. But two of the list
play a special part meanwhile in my present audio experiences:
Nuforce IA-7 V2 and the Virtue Audio Two. This could be an interesting comparison as both are mentioned meanwhile. Both are beasts in within their own particular natures. More to tell you soon ...
To get the full power from the amp, you'd need a 200w supply at 30v.
Hi Seth can you recommend a brand for clean powersupply also available in germany ?? I want to
check up a more powerful one. You know: the better is the good ones enemy :-)
so interesting that I did and do too listen to many of the amps you listed, namely Pop Pulse T1 and T150, Nuforce IA7 V2, Virtue Two plus Charlize 1 and 2.
And we shared the same opinion that Nuforce IA-7 v2 and Virtue Two stand out from the crop. When you look at the price, nothing can beat Virtue Two. In fact I think these two machines both excel at area that they are made for, and at the end of the day it comes down to personal taste. :thumb: :thumb:
I can't wait to see there would be Virtue 3 or Sensation......
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Thanks much seth, will start a source comparison soon.
And we shared the same opinion that Nuforce IA-7 v2 and Virtue Two stand out from the crop. When you look at the price, nothing can beat Virtue Two. In fact I think these two machines both excel at area that they are made for, and at the end of the day it comes down to personal taste. :thumb: :thumb:
I can't wait to see there would be Virtue 3 or Sensation......
If you listen about 10 seconds to an amp and say to yourself: "Wowww !! Interesting" - be sure you have a special item in front of you. This was the situation when hooked up the Nuforce IA-7 first time comparing to the other Tripaths. The Virtue Two arrived later ... Experiences are hard to explain but within the first seconds you feel power and control of the high end line of Nuforce. Even at higher volume levels it delivers full body sound into the room without any distortion. I had the impression like that an bodybuilder was training with spoons :) . The other Tripaths have no chance especially when your room is at least 20 square meters and your speakers not over 90 dB.
The other Tripaths would give their best performance in smaller rooms or hooked up with very high sensitive fullrange speakers. That?s my opinion.
In short about the Virtue Two: "same like Tripath but with balls :wink:"
A comparison to the Nurforce IA-7 V2 is very hard. It depends on the choosen speakers I think. With 95 dB Fostex fullrange speakers the partner Virtue was excellent. For the harder to drive ones (lower 88 dB) I would prefer the Nuforce in any way. But hey - I have not upgraded the Virtue Two with better power supply. Not yet !! aa
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As far as I know - NuForce is not Tripath based. They devevloped their own Class-D circuit a few years ago and have used and refined that.
But I have not kept up with their circuits, so can't say for sure.
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As far as I know - NuForce is not Tripath based. They devevloped their own Class-D circuit a few years ago and have used and refined that.
But I have not kept up with their circuits, so can't say for sure.
... and listened to much Class D amps
8) Yes you?re right - they use other chips.
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With these amps, the power supply is a big deal. The Nuforce IA-7 has an internal PSU that can output more than 300w. I'll be that we sound nearly as good with a 130w PSU but with a 300w PSU, that would be the real test. We'll offer it one day...
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With these amps, the power supply is a big deal. .......
I can't agree more aa aa aa :wink: :thumb: :green:
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Has anyone tried one of these yet ?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260292882720&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260292882720&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)
I just ordered one and will report on it once I've received it.
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Has anyone tried one of these yet ?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260292882720&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260292882720&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)
I just ordered one and will report on it once I've received it.
For those of us who are unedamucated in the ways of DIY electronics, what has to be done to that power supply to make it useable with an amp?
(http://i18.ebayimg.com/01/i/001/43/c9/2528_12.JPG)
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first let me show you what that power supply sells for elsewhere http://www.trcelectronics.com/Cosel/uaw250s-24.shtml (http://www.trcelectronics.com/Cosel/uaw250s-24.shtml)
hookup should be quit simple and up front.
3 of the tabs are for the power input from the wall. (ground, neutral, line)
the other tabs are 2 positives and 2 negatives. see here http://www.cdiweb.com/datasheets/cosel/UAW_series.pdf (http://www.cdiweb.com/datasheets/cosel/UAW_series.pdf)
the seller on ebay has had them listed for months so obviously they haven't been seen by many.
let me see how mine works when it gets here I'm sure he will have more.
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first let me show you what that power supply sells for elsewhere http://www.trcelectronics.com/Cosel/uaw250s-24.shtml (http://www.trcelectronics.com/Cosel/uaw250s-24.shtml)
hookup should be quit simple and up front.
3 of the tabs are for the power input from the wall. (ground, neutral, line)
the other tabs are 2 positives and 2 negatives. see here http://www.cdiweb.com/datasheets/cosel/UAW_series.pdf (http://www.cdiweb.com/datasheets/cosel/UAW_series.pdf)
the seller on ebay has had them listed for months so obviously they haven't been seen by many.
let me see how mine works when it gets here I'm sure he will have more.
what a nice looking smps!!!!!!!!!!
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You are getting brave Dean. :wink:
Here are the parts I ordered for the linear ps I am "working" on:
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Mouser #: 611-DA102J12S215PQF
Mfr. #: DA102J12S215PQF
Desc.: Rocker Switches SPST 16A ON-OFF BLK
Mouser #: 576-03453RF7H
Mfr. #: 03453RF7H
Desc.: Fuseholders, Blocks, and Clips Shock Safe 3AG
Mouser #: 562-703W-00/08
Mfr. #: 703W-00/08
Desc.: Low Current Power Inlet AC RECPT .250 Q-C
Mouser #: 806-KPPX-4P
Mfr. #: KPPX-4P
Desc.: DC Power Connectors 4P POWER PLUG SNAP AND LOCK
Mouser #: 502-S-760
Mfr. #: S760
Desc.: DC Plugs 2.1MM X 5.5MM BLK
Mouser #: 806-KPJX-PM-4S
Mfr. #: KPJX-PM-4S
Desc.: DC Power Connectors 4 PN PANEL MT POWER MINI DIN
Has anyone tried one of these yet ?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260292882720&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260292882720&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)
I just ordered one and will report on it once I've received it.
For those of us who are unedamucated in the ways of DIY electronics, what has to be done to that power supply to make it useable with an amp?
(http://i18.ebayimg.com/01/i/001/43/c9/2528_12.JPG)
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Trust me when I say not even a little brave. Just curious. I was concerned that I might not be able to switch out fuses in the amp. I am certainly not going to start wiring up power supplies. :nono:
You are getting brave Dean. :wink:
Has anyone tried one of these yet ?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260292882720&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260292882720&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)
I just ordered one and will report on it once I've received it.
For those of us who are unedamucated in the ways of DIY electronics, what has to be done to that power supply to make it useable with an amp?
(http://i18.ebayimg.com/01/i/001/43/c9/2528_12.JPG)
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Cosel make a LOT of different supplies. I have several different styles here.
The UAW look like it would be easy to connect, nice screw terminals.
Let me have a look at the docs and I'll get back to you.
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Trust me when I say not even a little brave. Just curious. I was concerned that I might not be able to switch out fuses in the amp. I am certainly not going to start wiring up power supplies. :nono:
You really aught to try wiring up the batter supply kit. It is all DC so no worries about house voltage.
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I recently had a chance to compare the Trends Audio TA10.1 to the Virtue One on B&W CM1 speakers and also Q-Acoustics 1020 speakers. I listen to music at fairly low levels, so power was not an issue. The low end is deeper on the Virtue, but not as tight as the Trends' who also displayed better dynamics. Spacialization was fairly better for the Virtue than for the Trends. Mids and Highs had better definition and shone better with the Trends. With the Virtue, the Highs started to shine when the volume control was brought at least to the Twelve o'clock position. All in all, for low listening levels, the Trends was my favorite of the two.
My 2-cents.
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I recently had a chance to compare the Trends Audio TA10.1 to the Virtue One on B&W CM1 speakers and also Q-Acoustics 1020 speakers. I listen to music at fairly low levels, so power was not an issue. The low end is deeper on the Virtue, but not as tight as the Trends' who also displayed better dynamics. Spacialization was fairly better for the Virtue than for the Trends. Mids and Highs had better definition and shone better with the Trends. With the Virtue, the Highs started to shine when the volume control was brought at least to the Twelve o'clock position. All in all, for low listening levels, the Trends was my favorite of the two.
My 2-cents.
Hi Jim. Which power supply were you running with the Virtue One?
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I recently had a chance to compare the Trends Audio TA10.1 to the Virtue One on B&W CM1 speakers and also Q-Acoustics 1020 speakers. I listen to music at fairly low levels, so power was not an issue. The low end is deeper on the Virtue, but not as tight as the Trends' who also displayed better dynamics. Spacialization was fairly better for the Virtue than for the Trends. Mids and Highs had better definition and shone better with the Trends. With the Virtue, the Highs started to shine when the volume control was brought at least to the Twelve o'clock position. All in all, for low listening levels, the Trends was my favorite of the two.
My 2-cents.
Hi Jim. Which power supply were you running with the Virtue One?
It was the 30V/90W.
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I recently had a chance to compare the Trends Audio TA10.1 to the Virtue One...
There's always something to be said about system synergy. Even after 200 hours the Trends with the Audiomagus "Value Mod" in the context of my system was totally unacceptable - at any volume. For critical listening, in my case, the Virtue can be taken seriously, but not the Trends. It's like comparing apples to turnips. And I loathe turnips!
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I recently had a chance to compare the Trends Audio TA10.1 to the Virtue One...
There's always something to be said about system synergy. Even after 200 hours the Trends with the Audiomagus "Value Mod" in the context of my system was totally unacceptable...
This is very interesting considering my experience and the Trends' reputation. You seem to suggest that the Trends is not a good amp at all. What speakers did you run it on?
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RAW OB-2X... somewhat inefficient but I don't think that's the issue as a 2A3 offers only 3.5 watts... and it sounds glorious on the same speakers.
Even the ancient McIntosh MA-6100 is far more listenable than the Trends. Guess I'm not too trendy.
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I've had more than one and fewer than four customers say they preferred the Trends in the mid-high... I'd rather not get in a tussle over it. Trends is a good sounding product.
Anyway, the new amps will have an even lower sound floor and even more balls. I'm expecting that this makes the amp better in every way. Let's see!
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The Trends (and original Sonic Impact) has been a product of very mixed reviews. It's interesting to note the polar responses of reviews, such as those from many users like WindChaser to the high praise from blind listening tests against very nice amps in Stereomojo. The Virtue products seem more consistent in reviews. I'm not sure why that is the case, but individual preferences are difficult to predict. I personally find the Virtue far superior to the Trends one my 97db sensitive speakers (which should level off the power differences somewhat).
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The Virtue products seem more consistent in reviews. I'm not sure why that is the case...
Maybe it's less fickle and system dependant?
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Although I do prefer my V-1 to the Trends 10.1 I previously had, and this partly because to me, the V-1's bass seems more realistic, my Trends had a noticeably quieter background.
Perhaps it's my particular unit.
Don
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I have to throw my comments though I did it in the beginning of this thread yet:
the Trends is a really smooth and well balanced amp for the money. Wide soundstage is also present, but the most weak point of the Trends was the bass if hooked up with not high sensitive speakers. And I own different speakers: from 8 Ohm Fostex fullrange to 4 Ohms 50 kilogramms/ 1,30 meters Focals.
The Trends could not produce this physically bass (it was only listenable) like the Virtue 2. I really wondered myself when the Virtue brought my 4 Ohms Focal monsters to sing - including the physical bass nearly without any distortion also in higher dB levels.
Please compare the Power Supplies of both an you can imagine what I mean.
BTW: I found the soundstage of the Virtue even more vertical than the Trends and the Mids/Highs were also smooth and well balanced.
I can imagine myself that some mellow, smooth and quiet listeners would like the Trends more but I strongly prefer the Virtue 2 in most disciplines ...
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I've got a used Virtue 2 w/ a 90 / 30 power supply on the way from M. Mardis. I will compare it to his modded Trends (both with a Modwright Beta pre...possibly without the pre as well, depending on how curious I am) running into Reference 3A deCapo i's.
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Well you guys know me - I like the Trends, it's a good amp. But it just can't do real musical levels on anything but horns. But it is very sweet in the midrange, no doubt. Some real magic there.
In the same power range, I actually prefer the KingRex because it sounds both stronger and smoother to me. Or better yet, the AMP6 kit from 41Hz.com - if you like to solder.
They all have their good points - and they all sound like Tripath to me. In fact when I walked into Vinnie Rossi's Red Wine room at last year's RMAF I could have told you blindfolded that it was Tripath. Just something about it....
For me the strong point of the Trends is the midrange and the treble is nice too. For low level listening it does very well. But I'm not saying anything new - am i? :D
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Maybe the value modded Trends I had was a turkey? The person who bought it from me sold it within a few weeks also. Or maybe it boiled to down to system synergy for him too?
I've tried close to a dozen different Tripath amps, the Little Dot being the most powerful, followed by the Virtue One. Although they share a common signature, some I definitely liked more than others.
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Maybe the value modded Trends I had was a turkey? The person who bought it from me sold it within a few weeks also. Or maybe it boiled to down to system synergy for him too?
Yes, looks like you got a lemon. :)
I like the Trends so much I ordered three. Not one has the same input and power caps as the other. One of them is even clearly less powerfull and doesnt sound as good as the other two.
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[ Not one has the same input and power caps as the other.
LOL! Ain't it the truth. I've had many dozens of them thru my hands. They were all different. Some where better made than others, too. Build quality went thru some rough patches, but seems to be sorted out now. (I think)
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[ Not one has the same input and power caps as the other.
I've had many dozens of them thru my hands. They were all different. Some where better made than others, too.
Are you really sure ?? You mean same model, same price but different qualities ...?
Such things shouldn?t produced by an audio manufacturer who wants to be regarded as reliable.
Or not ??
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[ Not one has the same input and power caps as the other.
I've had many dozens of them thru my hands. They were all different. Some where better made than others, too.
Are you really sure ?? You mean same model, same price but different qualities ...?
Such things shouldn?t produced by an audio manufacturer who wants to be regarded as reliable.
Or not ??
Come to think of it, the amp that brought the tripath TA2024 chip to mass market was the SI T-Amp which was one of the worst built piece of audio gear of it's time. Nevertheless it was a remarquably sounding product for the price ($35 at the time). So it's no surprise that Trends would sell a $100 amp based on the same chip and sometimes use different parts to cut on costs. After all, it would still sound pretty awesome for the price.
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Excuse me but I cannot agree on your statement. Trends Audio acts on the market like they want to belong to the Hifi Establishment while the Sonic Impact was an underdog/insider product from the start and they were pushed and recommended by the consumers.
And believe me that the parts in the Trends are never so curtly calculated that the result must strongly end in a game of chance for the customers ...
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Excuse me but I cannot agree on your statement. Trends Audio acts on the market like they want to belong to the Hifi Establishment while the Sonic Impact was an underdog/insider product from the start and they were pushed and recommended by the consumers.
And believe me that the parts in the Trends are never so curtly calculated that the result must strongly end in a game of chance for the customers ...
Neutralos, do you distribute this product?
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[ Not one has the same input and power caps as the other.
I've had many dozens of them thru my hands. They were all different. Some where better made than others, too.
Are you really sure ?? You mean same model, same price but different qualities ...?
Such things shouldn?t produced by an audio manufacturer who wants to be regarded as reliable.
Or not ??
I think it is like any product made overseas at a certain cost. I am sure the designers got some samples from the factory at first, they might have been exact as the spec demanded, but after production goes into full swing, do they bother to listen to other production samples? That is when the customer and perhaps the design/distribution company gets taken for a ride.
Even that examples of the 3 Trends having different components, shows you there are perhaps subtle but sonically substantial changes on each batch of production.
That is the price one pays for purchasing electronics built and sold at a low price point.
Imagine the stink it would cause is a big, high profile manufacturer had such discrepancies in their fancy high $$$$ units. :duh:
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I look at products like this as falling into the "Accidentally Good" category.
Certainly the little Sonic Impact fits. It is almost a toy and was meant as such. It just happened to have the lovely TA2024 chip inside. That it ever made its way into the Hi-Fi world is a strange accident of some online reviews. The rest is history. And it is not badly built. Whoever does the SI boards does a nice job. I've seen much worse in the T-Amp world - and at higher prices. The design itself is minimal, but that's the price point.
Some other small T-amps seem to be designed with the audiophile market in mind, but the build quality is not there. A lot of it is built on buzz words, not engineering. Sometimes that works and sounds pretty nice. =)
But lets get real. Most of this stuff is built to a very low price point with a decent margin for the reseller. If you get a nice sounding piece of gear for the price, you should be happy. It's not the fancy kilodollar audiophile stuff and will never be. it's great value for money. And mostly great by happy accident.
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Neutralos, do you distribute this product?
Which product you mean ? The Trends ... ? If Pano or whoever here hadn?t notified it here, I never
knew about such differences in a production range.
What plays the rule if I am distributing any audio gear ...? Every hifi enthusiast know something about the principles in audio production and distribution.
BTW: where do you get the Trends for 100 $ new as you notified here ? Or is this the reseller?s buying price ?
Again: I don?t want to make here the Trends bad. It?s still a great value for money but anyhow it disturbs me when I know that the next Trends I would purchase could be better than that one I bought yet ... ? Are you so relaxed to overlook about this ?
Do you want to see a similar product with much better build quality ? Here is my tip:
The Silverstone EB02. A fantastic sounding Tripath with the TA2021B Chip. I have sold my Trends but this one I will keep for a fullrange solution in future. It?s cheaper meanwhile than the Trends because Trends Audio is flying straight to the Audio heaven and raised the prices based on some good reviews in the past. It?s just marketing like everywhere ... :roll:
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Neutralos, do you distribute this product?
BTW: where do you get the Trends for 100 $ new as you notified here ? Or is this the reseller?s buying price ?
Prices seem to have risen. I just noticed that the Trends retails today for about $179. When it came out in 2007, I bought three for $130 a piece.
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Did anyone compare Virtue ONE/TWO to Onkyo A-9555?
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Just saw this post-- in fact, I returned a 9555 just prior to my Virtue TWO purchase. I was looking for an upgrade from a Panasonic XR55 and, to my ears, the 9555 was not it. That's when I stumbled upon Virtue nad the rest is history... The 9555 sound tinnny too my ears or was just not a good match to my speakers (Ascend Acoustics 340SE)
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I've been using Trends TA-10.1 for over a year now (yellow capacitors version, not bennic - is it worse?) and I am very happy with it. Recently I've got new speakers - Aurum Cantus V3M and I could use greater bass punch. Is Virtue One.2 a lot better in this area? I also don't want to lose great mids and highs that Trends provide. Do you think I should get Virtue or maybe upgrade stock PSU to LSA batteries in Trends?
Best regards,
Marcin